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house where two people were injured than the shooter continue to the medical center where he shot someone. at least three people killed in between shootings in the dutch city of rotterdam. the shooter a student. one of the victims taught at the university. also tonight 70,000 ethnic armenians have now crossed the border into armenia. the leader of the self-declared republic says it will cease to exist in the new year. we will bring attributes to the man best known for playing dumbledore. good evening. a mixed picture, but police say
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three people were killed after a gunman fired shots first at an appointment -- department in rotterdam then in a classroom at a university hospital. the victim was a woman and her daughter who died in the hospital from her injuries. th man then traveled to the hospital where he killed a doctor who taught there. both locations were set on fire. the suspect was university student wearing camflage and a bullet-proof vest. >> emergency services in the center of rotterdam after the reports of shots being fired. there were two incidents in different parts of the city. staff and patients were quickly evacuated.
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>> we were told to leave. the police told us to leave. the site of the first shooting, smoke can be seen and a man is being treated for his injuries at the side of the road. >> this afternoon, we had two shooting incidents. one at a house then the shooter continue to the medical center where he shot someone. we have arrested a 32-year-old man from rotterdam. >> he was arrested on the helipad of the hospital. the motive for the attack is unclear. >> our correspondent in the netherlands has just reached rotterdam and sent us this update. >> a 14-year-old girl is one of the casualties, one of the fatalities who has died in the shooting. i ju arrived at the scene as you can see the medical center where one of the shootings took place. a few moments ago, i spoke to a security guard who did not want
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to talk on camera, but he said he was first on the scene and the person who was killed in the classroom was one of the teachers. the source is the security guard who was first on scene. you can see there are dutch reporters also spanish reporters have just arrived. the security guard also told me that the gunman did not enter through the main entrance. i just came through the hospital, it is absolutely still. you can feel something has happened. it was in the afternoon just after lunchtime police got the first call that there had been a shooting at a house then shortly after, the gunmen arrived here. we seen photographs shared on dutch media life pages. he appeared to be wearing combat trousers.
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he was also wearing headphones, carrying a backpack and picked up a gun from inside the hospital. police were sweeping through quickly. they slipped through the hospital. we saw pictures shared on social media, students have been writing the room numbers on pieces of paper and sticking them to the window so people could come rescue them. nobody knew whether there was one gunman or more. police believe the suspect they have arrested was acting alone. >> we can speak to freelance journalist in the hague for us this evening. what more do we know about the suspect and his motive? >> police have said he is a
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32-year-old student at the university in rotterdam. he had a previous police conviction for animal mistreatment. local media are reporting that the woman who died was his neighbor and she reported him several times to the housing association for mistreating his pet dog and his pet rabbit. the 43-year-old victim the man who died was a teacher at the university. the student was one of his students. witnesses say he fired five shots. police say it appears to be a targeted action. that he knew his victims and he had a motive for targeting them. >> he set fires that both properties. it seems to me from the
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reporting that we have had that the emergency services worked export nearly quickly. >> yes they responded fast. by the time they got the first report, he was already at the hospital. they got the reports simultaneously there is a short distance between them. he set fire to the house first of all and that was burning strongly by the time they got there. they could not get into the house right away to look for victims. then he started a fire in a classroom in the hospital and some reports say he threw a molotov cocktail other that has not been confirmed by the police. it was a lot of work for emergency services and had to evacuate the hospital because after he shot the teacher, he ran through the hospital. reports that he continued to fire his gun so there were worries that there were more victims. they had to continue searching for possible further casualties.
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it was an extremely difficult operation. >> presumably if he was firing in that way, from the reports i have read over people barricading themselves into rooms to get away from him at a time when he set the fire. >> yes they couldn't get out. initially the police closed off the hospital so the shooter couldn't get other people. at some point, they also had to evacuate the hospital so it was a different -- dficult judgment call. >> thank you for that update. in rotterdam, three people killed and the suspect now in custody. we are going to peel away for a
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second, i want to take you to -- because president biden is giving a speech at the university at the mccain center. about democracy and the health of democracy in the united states. >> every other nation in the world has been founded on grouping by ethnicity. we are the most unique nation in the world. we were founded on idea. only major nation founded on an idea. that we are all created equal and endowed by our creator to be treated equally throughout our lives. we have never fully lived up to that idea but we have never walked away from it. there is danger walking too far away from it now the way we talk. debating in this country. there's a long line of those john mccain. i've been thinking about our friendship of 40 years.
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the debates would have in the senate. we would argue like two brothers. we argue like hell. we would argue then go to lunch together. or he would ride home with me. we traveled the world together. by the way, when he found this magnificent woman and got married, i'm the guy who convinced him to run in arizona as a republican. plus me father. -- bless me father. [laughter] i did, i said you can do this job. my only worry is that you will do it too well. running on opposite sides of the nations highest office, we still remain friends. the conversations we had, he had with my son, beau.
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the guy who spent a year in iraq about serving in a war overseas, about the courage and battle against the same cancer. >> joe biden speaking in arizona. it's an important theme he is addressing, the threat that he sees to u.s. democracy from the republican magta base. he is pointingeliberately at the person he may be running against in 2024 donald trump. we will see what he says in the second part of the program. let's for the moment concentrate on the situation around the separatist leader who says their struggle from independence from azerbaijan is over. we've been focusing this week about the exodus of those making their way into neighboring
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armenia. 70,000 ethnic armenians are said to have left the disputed teitory. the territory has been controlled by armenians for three decades. it was seized last week by those who say they want to reintegrate the people into society but those living in the enclave say they fear persecution and they prefer to live in exile instead. one leader accused azerbaijan of conducting ethnic cleansing and is calling on the committee to act. >> the exodus of armenians as a result of azerbaijan's ethnic cleansing policy continues. analysis of the situation shows in the coming days, there will be no armenians left. this is an act of ethnic cleansing. >> we can speak to our correspondent who is there for us this evening.
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we are getting a figure of 70,000. how easy is it to count the people coming across? >> the armenian authorities are counting the people. the latest gear is over 74,000 people. on average, it's up to 1000 people being registered every hour. these are the latest figures from the armenian authorities. we know that more people are trying to leave. i have seen some pictures of more vehicles time to leave. the armenian authorities have announced they are sending buses to help those who do not have their own cars. anchor: what about the route these people are taking to the border? is it safe, are they being allowed to leave? reporter: they have to go
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through at least two checkpoints. one is in a city and the next one is right before they cross into armenia upper. -- proper. in some cases, vehicles are being mildly searched. the authorities say they don't want to let some of the members of the illegal government as they say to leave. some big figures have been arrested already. one state minister, a russian citizen who renounced his citizenship and came here last year, he was arrested. now he has bn placed into pretrial detention and is facing serious charges including funding terrorism. another high-level official posted a message saying that he
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knows he is on the blacklist and he decided to hand himself over to the azerbaijan authorities. anchor: state with us. joining us from the armenian capital is a reporter who has just returned from the border talking to people who are crossing. enormous numbers of children and older people mixed in with those pouring across the border. it's not a country that can easily assimilate 100,000 people. is there the aid and support to be able to manage it? reporter: as you say, i spent the last week on the border and for the past four or five days, the cars, trucks, buses loaded with whatever possessions people could get together on short notice haven't stopped coming. people are arriving with almost nothing making them extremely difficult to get settled. when the cop was only 60,000, it is now 75,000 almost, they told
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me there were only 6000 have been re-housed. i've seen a string of vehicles with people's possessions loaded on top. many people say they don't fit they will ever return home. they need short-term accommodations and homes for the long-term. any support after going through what they felt like was going through hell. >> they have family members. there. it's an extraordinary uprooting of humanity.
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how do they feel about the role the armenian government has played in this? reporter: there's a bitter sweetness. people who have come across after spending 24 or 30 hours in their cars come up feel huge sense of relief. there's fuel, water, food, my kids are safe. but at same time, they have left behind so much. it meant more to them than is possible for them to imagine. their sense of belonging to the land is significant. i've asked people are you getting help, or you getting support, the answer is often no i don't need anything, i will try to make my own way. i spoke to someone handing out sandwiches to people who have not eaten a square meal for weeks in some cases and she said it's hard to explain to people that they don't need to pay. people are trying to give me
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money, they don't understand we are trying to give them something for free. there are really heartbreaking scenes that show how unused to the idea of people who have left their homes, how in shock that are. one woman said i'm worried that dressed like this and all my possessions people will think i'm a refugee. anchor: what about the way this is being viewed elsewhere in the caucuses? other separatist groups, are they feeling vulnerable the moment? are they thinking they might be next? >> the first thing to mention is that it's astonishing that the georgian government has not issued a single statement since this crisis began since azerbaijan military operation last tuesday and this story is not really featured that much in
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georgian media which is surprising given that there are three countries in the south caucuses. of course we have heard news from breakaway territories, these are the news i have seen that they are watching with great concern what is happening there. anchor: because the russians are looking the other way? reporter: because in some ways they are in a similar situation. i think in george's breakaway territories, local governments feel perhaps more protected by russia because russia recognized their independence which was not the case there. anchor: we will have to leave it there. lovely to see again. thank you for coming on the program. around the world and across the u.k., this is bbc news. looking at the other stories
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making news today, the average rate on a five year fixed mortgage is fallen below 6% for the first time since early july. new figures from the financial information service show the typical rate dropped to 5.99% down from 6.03% yesterday. banks had been cutting rates after 14 consecutive interest rate rises. the backlog of cases waiting to be heard at crown courts in london has hit a record. there were well over 64,000 outstanding cases in june, more than double 2018 before the pandemic. many people have reported they are allergic to penicillin. 90% are clear when tested. it's unclear that people confuse
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side effects with a reaction. you're watching bbc news. the actor michael gambon has died in hospital at the age of 82. sir michael worked across tv, film, radio, and theater in a career that spanned nearly six decades. a statement issued by the family says he died peacefully in hospital with his family at bedside after about pneumonia. my guest is an actor who worked with him at the national theater for production of henry the fourth. i was just thinking today five or six decades on stage, film, television. many will have a different character when they remember sir michael.
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gut: back in 2005 when i work with, i had my own young impression of him. i saw him in the singing detective and a was incredible. everybody of every generation knows him in some way. anchor: they do but of course most of us don't know him. when i watched him, i felt that he had that mischievous sense of humor. did that come across when you were working with him? guest: it was there all the time. he was so gracious, he was often the highest status person in the room but he would make himself the lowest. he was constantly naughty. always cracking jokes. always hungry to get sck in the rehearsal room. as a young actor, seeing someone of his stature of his age so excited to play and the rehearsal room was a thrill.
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on stage, he was so alive. he had these extremely delicate long fingers which he could use so expressively. he had a twinkle in his eye and he kept you present. he was constantly keeping you on your toes and even you a look that made you not know what would happen next. even the most scenes that if and rehearsed for months, he could make feel like they were happening by accident in the moment. anchor: yes, you need long fingers as a wizard or as a shakespearean theater. i was listening to an interview that he did on radio and i couldn't leave -- he couldn't believe he was given the role he was yet he regretted coming offstage. from what i saw right to the
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end, he was the ultimate professional. guest: he was a pro. he had an iron constitution. he was completely reliable to be on stage with. he made the audience moved, excited. it was a thrill to watch them but on stage, it felt like the smallest room in the world and it was just you and him. he was an incredible titan of an actor. one that anyctor that worked with him felt that they were lucky to have had that experience. i'm really grateful that i can include myself in that group. anchor: we are seeing some of the work that he took. the thing about dumbledore i thought was when he took over, he seemed to play it like harris with almost a bit of an irish twang. guest: yes but he made everything his own.
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he was so individual, so unique there was really nobody like him. he can make anything fresh. he could make anything feel real and intimate. he was just special. there's just nobody like michael gambon. anchor: how will you member him? guest: we used to have breakfast together before rehearsals. he would be so generous and curious about your life. once troy that sticks out in the national theater, the dressing rooms all look out on another in a big quad, all the windows face each other and at some point early in production, a water bomb fight broke out every night and during one of these fights, he disappeared from his dressing room and no one knew where he had gone. he reappeared two minutes later with a firehose that he had dragged from the corridor and drenched everybody's open window. we all went on stage a little
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bit damp that night. [laughter] anchor: what a lovely tribute. thank you for sharing your thoughts on sir michael gambon who has died at the age of 82. we will take a short break and come back to talk about those drones that keep being targeted at ukrainian cities. a new report suggests ey are full of european parts. narrator: funding for this presentation of this program is provided by... narrator: financial services firm, raymond james. narrator: funding was also pvided by, the freeman foundation. and by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. ♪ ♪
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