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218. the motion is not adopted. >> it is a civil war. you have two factions in the republican party. they have been on a collision course for quite some time. christian: a historic vote in the u.s. congress. kevin mccarthy facing rebellion, could be ousted tonight. the hard right has made several attempts and will likely bring a motion to vacate the chair in the next hour. also, britain's prime minister has refuses to end speculation that he funds hs2. despite many assumptions the decision already been made. the latest fromday 2 of the cive
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donald trump is facing a fine of up to $250 million. jury in that case? hope the do not bite, that how many are conference? the elysee palace demands action. that evening fast-moving events in washington, the speaker of the u.s. house of representatives died from his political life after a right wing rubble filed a motion to oust him. a vote is expected later this evening. mccarthy would be removed as the speaker, plunging the house into chaos. matt gaetz moved his motion to oust mr. mccarthy on monday, frustrated about the secret deal he alleges the speaker has made with democrats. our correspondent has been
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watching. also session and against in the last hour. give us the update of where we are here yet barbara: mccarthy has lost the first vote. there was a vote to see if they could kill the effort to remove him from office. he lost that. they are proceeding on to the next step, which is the actual vote to remove him. before that, there is about an hour of debate, which is divided evenly between republicans. it is surreal to see republicans on different sides of the issue, cemex orientating the speaker, some defending him. the democrats are not in the picture at all. they voted against the motion to kill the process and said this is not about us.
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this is a civil war within the republican party. it is a right wing faction trying to remove the speaker. you have this strange experience. a different republicans taking the podium on one side or the other on whether they should keep their speaker. christian: it is been coming to a head for manyears. you think back to john boehner. he had a problem with the tea party. paul ryan had a problem with the hard right. now kevin mccarthy does, but this vote tonight, there has not been a vote like this for over 100 years. barbara: that is right, but john boehner almost faced one. there was a motion to vacate, that is remove them from office. it was put forward by mark meadows who became chief of staff for donald trump it -- for donald trump. that never came to a vote. mr. boehner resigns.
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shows -- there has been this division for some time, but it is very start in this case. the right wing has become radically right, very hard-line, wanting to slash government spending, being a thorn in the side of mr. mccarthy from the moment the vote for him started. there were 15 rounds for him just to get elected. it has become a sign that the party is deeply fractured. if we see that mr. mccarthy is removed, then there becomes a question of who can leave the house? christian: you almost preempted my question. ven the chaos, what happens if the shares vacated? do you have to have anyone sit in it? barbara: no one knows who will sit in it, but the house will be paralyzed. everything will stop.
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they will have to start a process of voting. they will have to find a candidate. somebody will take over. next are mccarthy had to drop a list of people who could replace him -- mr. mccarthy ha to drop in those two people who could replace him immediately, but that person will have to oversee this boat. one republican congressman mentioned that many in the party do support mr. mccarthy and that maybe they would all move to reinstate him. who knows where that would go. matt gaetz, the republican rubble who started this process, did mention off the cuff that he would support somebody like steve scalise, who is the head of the republicans in the chamber, but there has been known comment from mr.'s police whether that is even remotely a possibility -- mr. scalise
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whether that is even remotely a possibility. but we have to have the vote first. we have to see whether there is anything between now and actually changing people's minds about whether or not to remove mr. mccarthy. christian: mr. gaetz in that box currently talking on the house floor. let's talk about democrats. there was a meeting this morning for the democratic caucus. they have to decide whether they will support kevin mccarthy. the decision was taken not to do that. is it still possible that they are able to extract something from the republicans, thinking particularly about crane funding? -- ukraine funding? barbara: there was some speculation that they might support mr. mccarthy because they had promised -- there was speculation he had promised to put forward a bill for ukraine funding. when there is this conflict over
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a shutdown, money for ukraine was taken out and passed separately. it is important to democrats to get money for ukraine. mr. mccarthy said he would deal with that separately. never say never, but what came through in the discussions before the bus was that democrats do not trust him because of his performance over the past months since he was elected. for example, he agreed to a debt ceiling agreement, managed to work with some republicans and with democrats to come up with a debt ceiling agreement in the spring. then he walked back on that when they were doing the spending discussions about the shutdown and a number of other things people have said where they do not trust what he says. also, he did not help himself. on sunday, after the government shutdown drama ended, he went on interviews and said basically that democrats had been wanting a shutdown.
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that video was played in t meeting of the democrats before the boat today. -- vote today. the general feeling expressed right a number of -- by a number of congresspeople was that this is a republican problem. we do not trust mccarthy. he has been getting into the right wing faction all along. let the republicans deal with it. christian: kevin mccarthy, fourth in line in order of precedence in the u.s., one of the most senior figures, his political career perhaps in peril. barbara, do not go far. in the meantime, some fairly dramatic political events on this side of the atlantic. in manchester, the future of europe's biggest infrastructure project is too dominant for headlines.
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willie prime minister -- will the prime minister -- the route from birmingham is already scrapped. the speculation is that birmingham to manchester will be asked -- asked for a savings of 34 billion pounds. but it is deeply controversial. >> prime minister, you are promising long-term decisions for a brighter future. will you announce your decision tomorrow on hs to? of dictation on this but i will approach it thoughtfully and make what i believe is the right decision for our country. christian: many voices among conservatives safe pulling the plug on the project will paint the u.k. in a bad light, not to mention the damage it could do to the conservative pledge of leveling the country. >> it would be a great tragedy
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to cancel hs2. if you want to make long-term decisions, that includes huge investments in infrastructure ke hs2. let's speak to correspondent in manchester this evening. bring me up-to-date with some of the developments. i understand there is some news on the birmingham-manchester light. damien: there is talk. it seems increasingly likely that the prime minister will lay out some sort of decision in the morning when he delivers a big speech here. his big speech of this conference on the final day. the sense is he is likely to say that he is essentially scrapping
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that northern half of the project. they may try to finesse that and to say trains will still run halfway and then they will go but that essentially would be scrapping the deal. it ihuge. this project has been a decade or more in the making, massive investment it is a huge upgrade of the rail system. coming into mancheter, trains are packed with people. there is not enough space. not just a question of speed but of modernizing the whole thing. you have that big government promise made by rishi sunak's predecessors to even out the economic disparities between north and south. this is a crucial part of that.
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removing it has practical and symbolic impact, but the counter argument that richey sunak makes is that it is about delivering, using that money to deliver. we expect him to say he will spend it on projects around the north, but going around the conference, many observers of the party, business people are thinking about the signals it may send internationally to business. it will be confusing. people will see the government upon the plug on a big project and also worried that we will not deliver the same benefits if we sprinkle money around. however, you might deliver political benefits by conservatives being able to go to an election next year, promising goodies to different parts of the country. there is a sense that maybe mr. sunak talked about big decisions for the long-term but some are thinking is this a decision really about electoral politics year? christian: is speculation right
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that this will be a slower line? what is the point of a fast online if the crucial part to the north is slower? will people think they have been betrayed? damien: you have many like that, not just opposition, but conservatives also. the conservative mayor of the midlands, he is saying, he has been out saying this would be axing the prospects of the future. opposition mayors appear are also saying that. there are many voices who think that having gotten this far down the project that you should keep going, keep investing. she sunak says it is about the numbers. his indications are that he has tapped about this being enormous cost, tens of billions going into this. it makes you think he sounds
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like he is made up his mind. christian: the will wait for that speech tomorrow. thank you. let's bring in the former ceo o cross rail. that is the railway from london same pancras to the channel tunnel. thank you for being with us. as someone who has traveled for many years on very poor northern rail, i cannot think of an example of just how much this would reinforce the impression that you have all the best things in the south and not our good things in the north. you come quickly to birmingham and go slower from birmingham to manchester? the investment is not worth it? >> i cannot agree more. i am very supportive of improving infrastructure in
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northwestern england and making that are connections between the capital and places to the north. remember that hs2 is beneficial to the existing railway. it will make commuter traffic, freight traffic more effective and reliable on existing lines by building hs2. the current arrangement, where we have prayed, high-speed trains, and domestic passenger railways working together is an inefficient use of the railway. hs2 brings many benefits not only in with the impact to the existing rail. christian: can you compare the
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cost of hs2 to the fast rail systems in france or china? it seems to me we are more compact, particularly in northwest england. we have taken into consideration the impact this railway will have a. is that a fair comparison? >> i do not think it is. i have argued for many years that the geography of the u.k. is different from europe and asia. in china, -- we are a relatively small country with small distances between major economic hubs. that is not the case in france, where pg v -- tgv rail was pioneered and had a massive impact. but, indeed, there trains do run faster. they have built their network
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today. the new lines are built to travel even below 300 kp h. our problem, in my opinion, is hs2 was. that's was originally designed to operate at 400 k ph. it has been redesigned to operate at60 k ph. let the costs incurred in building the railway to operate at tse speeds are exponentially larger than railways designed to run at 300 kph. christian: so many issues on whether the private secretary can help reduce costs. across the u.k. and around the world, this is bbc news. quick look at some of the other stories in the u.k. today -- pope francis has suggested there could be ways to respect -- blessed same sex unions.
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the vatican that marriage is an indissoluble union between a man and a woman. it has long opposed gay marriage, with catholic priests -- but catholic priests in parts of europe have blessed same-sex. a group of women seeking composition from the danish government after being fitted with coils in a program intended to limit birth rates among the indigenous population. autopsies carried out on more than 100 river dolphin carcasses found in brazil. experts think severe drought has led to the water overheating, killing the dolphins, along with thousands of fish. the dolphins have slow reproductive cycles, making populations vulnerable to environmental shocks. you are living with bbc news. in new york, it is the second
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day of the civil case threatening donald trump's business empire. the former u.s. president was making his way earlier into court, a trial he calls a witch hunt. mr. trump is accused of massively inflating the value of his properties to secure better loans. he has denied any wrongdoing, saying his accounts were "phenomenal." the former u.s. president has consistently criticized prosecutor letitia james. he again labeled her a fraud. >> this case should be dismissed. this is not a case. she should probably be dismissed also. she is terrible very grossly incompetent. at a minimum, she said that should start looking for murderers d violent criminals
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and do something about the illegal migrants swarming into our city and state. her numbers are fraudulent. she is a fraud. this case should be dismissed. she should get under violent crime and solving the problems of new york city and new york state. christian: the former president talking on his way intoourt in new york today. our correspondent is outside the courthouse. he talked about the attorney general being grossly incompetent, but the news of the day has focused on the incompetence of his own lawyers and whether they checked a box indicating they wanted a trial by jury. did we get to the bottom of that bank -- of that? why is there not? >> the judge made it clear that nobody had asked for a jury trial. the attorney general's claim
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check the box that they were fine with a bench trial. but donald trump's legal team did not file a corresponding document. they left it over there we do not know if donald trump has been his own team about this or what happened and why it was love that way, but he has been telling his supporters that the judge issued the ruling that he committed fraud without a jury being present, without giving the full picture that nobody had asked for a jury trial. but it has been another contentious day in court. even though the first witness has been pre-much just on the actual accounting, donald trump did post an attack on the judge's clerk on social media again. what has resulted has been a gag order issued the judge against donald trump, barring anyone
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from making personal attacks on staff. here we are, second day of the trial, already a gag order on donald trump. the competitive nature -- combative nature continues. christian: the crux of this case is the valuation of the properties. the value is what someone is willing to pay. these remote elisa properties. what is th judge's response been. >> the judge has basically said that the properties were grossly over exaggerated. while trump's team to say that he could find any buyer, a buyer from saudi arabia to buy mar-a-lago with a premium on the trumpet brand, the judge is looking at whathe assessors found the value to be and what donald trump put the value down as. take for example the triplex in trump tower.
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the fact that the developer over exaggerated the size of the property by the times its actual square footage can only be considered a fraudulent act the judges siding with the attorney general. others have pointed out that donald trump benefited from these valuations when he was paying less tax, but he is saying this is business as normal. and what experts have to say. certainly the judge does not agree that that is how business is done in new york. christian: thank you. before we go to break, some pictures from the u.s. congress, from the house of representatives tonight. republicans are debating a month themselves in the motion to vacate the speaker's chair. let's listen in. representative: -- will effectively end republican house majority that voters elected in
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2022. this will neutralize the only counterweight in our government to the woke left's control of the senate and the white house. at a time when their policies are destroying our economy and have our borders to invasion. there are turning points in history whose significance is only realized by events that they unleash. this is one of those taxpayer -- this is one of those times. we are at the precipice. there are only minutes to realize the grave danger our country is in. dear god, grant us the wisdom to save our country. >> [applause] >> the gentleman from florida. representative: mr. speaker, there is nothing sober, wise, cautious about the path we are on. we are on a path to financial
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boon if this house does not yield toward different outcomes. i reserve. christian: more on this motion to vacate the speakers chair, talking about debt levels in the u.s. economy. some think more should be spent on the southern border than the war in ukraine. some think the speaker is in cahoots with democrats. about an hour of that debate left to run. we will bring you the motion to vacate vote narrator: funding for this presentation of this program is provided by... narrator: financial services firm, raymond james. narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. and by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. ♪ ♪
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