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. >> since junfor the loan, the ukraine army has lost over 900 men. these are your recoverable losses -- irrecoverable losses. lewis: in ukraine, one of the deadliest russian missile strikes of the war. the head of the un's has attacks on civilians must stop. more unwelcome records broken. temperatures in september where the warmest on record. after rishi sunak's pitch to the nation, what is sunakm and what is it offering? and retain and explain is the advice. we look at the new government guidance on what to do with controversial historical statues. first we're going to start with the events in east ukraine. the kharkiv region, that missile
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strike by russia. 51 people killed. take a look at these pictures from hroza, a small town. reportedly a café was had. people were gathering for a wake after a funeral. this town is within reach of the front line, but ukraine says there are no military sites at that specific location. our correspondent james waterhouse has the latest from kyiv. james; this is the deadliest missile strike that ukraine has seen for more than a year. the images being put out by official are fairly grim, even by the standards of the almost daily missile strike that ukraine indoors. it is around the small village of hroza. footage appears to show several bodies close together and annexed to rubble which we are
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told used to be a grocery store. officials are saying that the majority of people stood outside for the funeral wake of the ukrainian soldier, which is why so many injuries have been sustained from the shrapnel. this is a place, this is an area which comes under frequent shelli because of its proximity to the front line. it's around 30 kilometers away, and is part of the front line is the most volatile. but we haven't seen anything like this for a long time. such a deadly single strike. more than 51 people are known to have been killed in a village with a population around 300. the military significance isn't yet clear. it is questionable at this stage, but we see habitually civilian areas targeted by russian troops. they are accused of using a short range ballistic missile notoriously difficult to defend against because the height and speed at which they fly. the initial reports suggest
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something incredibly bleak has happened in northeastern ukraine. lewis: our thanks to james for giving us that update. we will stick to ukraine and moved to the diplomacy, because president zelenskyy has been at a european summit in a spanish city were ukraine war was high on the agenda. 47 eu and non-eu leaders were there. with infighting in the u.s. republican party potentially slowing down aid from washington, the support coming from europe has become even more vital for president zelenskyy. he made a point of being there in person. this is what he id. pres. zelenskyy: we must not allow putin to destabilize any other part of the world and partners to ruin europe's power. we must put pressure with sanctions, political and economical, so that russia -- the presence of russia, its military or proxies, on the
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territory of any other country, either threat to all of us. and we must work together to push russia out of the territory of other countries. lewis: meanwhile, vladimir putin has been speaking at a meeting at the black sea resort of sochi. ruia's president blamed the west for his invasion of ukraine. he said russia didn't start the 20-month-long war against ukraine ands trying to bring it to an end. pres. putin:ince the beginning of the so-called counteroffensive, this is the latest data. since june 4 alone, the ukrainian army has lost over 90,000 men. these are irrecoverable losses. 557 tanks, almost 1900 armored vehicles, including various classes. we have an understanding what goes where. we understand what we need to do or what we need to add.
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we are calmly working to achieve our goals, and i'm sure we will achieve them. lewis: let's return to this summit in granada. ukraine on the agenda, as we mentioned, but also the issue of migration. spain's prime minister says his country can't cope with irregular immigration without help from the european union. the bloc is seeking a deal on handling new arrivals the year before continentwide elections. see arrivals increased by 50 this year compared to last. more than 3500 reaching the canary islands last month because of mild weather and call mercies -- calmer seas. >> what cannot happen is that there are certain zones in our country such as southern spain or the canary islands to face all this irregular migration phenomenon without solidarity of the rest of the european
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countries. so, i think we have reached a balance point that's good for spain. lewis: an mep is the chair of the european parliament's committee on civil liberties,, justice, and home affairs. thank you for coming on the program. >> thank you for having me. lewis: this issue of migration is huge and very convicted. what are some of the concrete things being discussed and could actually happen to make a difference? >> you got a point there. migration has proved the most divisive issue in the european agenda, believe me. i represent the european parliament and it is actually divisive. but yet, the european parliament is a realistic body. it is the only directly elected institution in the european territory. we made balance in five regulations of which the new
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migration and asylum pact consists of, striking the right balance between sharing responsibility and binding solidarity. it takes binding solidarity before the situation that so-called member states, namely spain, italy, cyprus, malta, and greece, are dealing with with irregular migrants fleeing despair fleeing was ounce, fleeing hunger -- fleeing despair, fleeing war zones, fleeing hunger and famine. operations are taking day in, day in -- not day in, day out. it takes solidarity. we are willing to agree some right balance with the council between responsibility and solidarity. lewis: ok, and what does that mean in practice? is this an increase in different countries taking more numbers?
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>> w are, in the first place, making a call for years for european framewo of search-and-rescue. that search-and-rescue devices from individual member states are not operating solely and fragmentedly with no synergy. we want them to cooperate and we want the european commission to be in charge of european framework. but then, yes, it takes relocation problems. there is a solidarity and internal solidarity. there is solidarity in italy. they set foot on land pagosa to the continent. that is the case in spain. it takes a european program of relocations. yes, we know there is a member states around the council of ministers which oppose strongly that solidarity signal. but it takes that solidarity
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signal after such a rescue operation. the people in those islands are not left otheir own. they are crying out, where is europe. european has to respond and the european scale of response, and that is the one we are trying to build with the five regulations of asylum pact. there is the security pillar, strengthening their external borders of the european union, screening regulation, making sure that we get to know who is entering the territory, biometric identification of every human being entering the territory of the european union with a single datase. but it also takes the solidarity pillar -- it takes binding relocation. lewis: thank you very much for being on the program. >> thank you for the call. lewis: meanwhile, u.k. prime minister rishi sunak also at that meeting, due to announce
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bilateral talks with belgium, bulgaria, and syria to increase intelligence sharing and operational cooperation over migration. this is according to downing street. the u.k. would work with belgium to organize immigration, crime, clandestine entry into britain, and would work with syria on prosecuting and disrupting criminal networks. home-office figures show more than 25,000 people have been detected across the english channel and small boats so far this year. there are 45,774ivals in 2022. the total number of small boat arrivals this year is 23% below the equivalent number at this point last year. mr. sunak has made stopping the crossings one of his key pledges for this year. let's speak to the director general of migration and borders at the home office and now as a
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consultancy on migration. thank you for coming on the program. what do you think of these measures, these bilateral measures? >> well, i don't think in themselv they are going to -- they are changing measures, but i do think it is good that the prime minister is showing leadership and is trying to establish a dialogue with the rep to rep -- with the rabbit to repair some of the damaged relations we have had over the last three or four years. we need cooperation with europe and europe needs to act as a team to combat this problem. the people smugglers, the traffickers have proven to be remarkably agile at operating across borders and overcoming significant difficulties from their point of view. we need the governments of europe to cooperate and become just as nimble and agile as those people traffickers. lewis: and what does that kind of cooperation mean in practice?
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sharing intelligence about gangs and how they are operating and where they are operating? >> yeah, i think you have to remember that the small boats phenomenon across the english channel depends on quite significant organization to procure boats, to manufacture the boats. to transport the boats to the french coast, to procure the engines for the boats, the fuel, to collect the money from the migrants, transport the migrants to the beaches at the right time, and so on. there are supply chains involved , and it seems to me that there must be opportunities for the police in the relevant countries to disrupt supply chains and the gangs. lewis: is there incentives in place in those countries for individual police forces of
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those countries to gather that intelligence? glyn: well, i think that's a good point. on the face of it not necessarily, no. in a way, if there are transit countries -- serbia, bulgaria, etc. -- where the migrants are not stopping there, then they may see it is not particularly a problem. --as not particularly their problem. they have their priorities, why expend resource trying to solve our problems or another member state's problem? there is a whole diplomatic issue, possibly a financial issue -- lewis: let's move to the politics, then. rishi sunak said he will stop the boats. will he? glyn: it is going to be difficult to stop them absolutely. i think he's quite right, though, it's an intolerable
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situation as it is, and we have tried to do our best to reduce those costings -- we have got to do our best to reduce those crossings preferably 20 from where they are now. and to do that we have got to have lots of irons in the fire, whether it is police cooperation across borders, whether it is returns agreement, the rwanda deal. as the home secretary raised this week, a review of current policies and international asylum law. lewis: glyn williams, thank you for coming on the program. glyn: thank you very much. lewis: around the world and across the u.k., this is bbc news. let's look at other stores making the news now. prosecutors have concluded there is no realistic prospect of conviction for 21 people arrested on the day of the king's coronation to prevent a breach of the peace. the metropolitan police say they will face no further action. 52 arrests were made for a range of reasons.
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they've since stressed regret over the arrests. a man who took a crossbow to winter on christmas day 2021 to kill queen elizabeth ii has been given a nine-year is in sentence. he will be kept in the broadmoor high-security psychiatric hospital before moving to prison. he is the first person in the u.k. to be cvicted of treason since 1981 after pleading guilty in february. voters have been casting their ballots in scotland's first recall by-election. the poll was triggered when constituents voted to remove a former smp mp. you are live with bbc news. next, going to go to the u.s. and president biden has approved the construction of a section of border wall in southern texas in an effort to stop illegal
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immigration. around 32 kilometers will be built on the border with mexico. there has been more than 245,000 crossings in the area this year, with september expected to be a record month. but the move is a major u-turn by the president, who criticized his predecessor donald trump for making the wall such a key policy. it comes as top whi house officials are actually in mexico, as the two neighbors attempted to ease tensions of the border. secretary of state antony blinken and attorney general merrick garland were hoping to tackle the issue of drug trafficking, illegal migration. but mexican lópez obrador is not happy about the wall, saying he believes the white house has come under pressure from extreme white ring groups --right-wing groups. >> i'm going to talk about a proposal that was released yesterday.
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to allow the construction of a wall on the border. which is contrary to what president biden has said. authorizing the construction of a wall is a setback. it does not -- lewis: the u.s. secretary of state attempted to get things back on track, speaking of what the two nations have in common. sec. blinken: we are proceeding based on a sense of shared responsibility, cooperation, collaboration, mutual respect. this framework reflects our nations' shared interests and shared responsibility in addressing crime, violence, trafficking. it also underscores us feared -- underscores a shared understanding we have that while policing and border enforcement are absolute critical tools, they alone
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cannot address the context drivers of security challenges. lewis: let's go to mexico city and speak to journalist james frederick. thanks for coming on the program. >> thanks for having me. lewis: what do you make of these high-level visits so far? >> well, i think these are primarily political moves. there hasn't been any announcement yet, save for biden announcing the border construction, whh is separate to all of this. there hasn't been any announcement of a major change of u.s.-mexico relations or policy. but i do think there is a real political element to this with the united states and mexico have presidential elections next year, both the democrats in the united states and the party and mexico want to give a hold on power next year. there is an incentive for both to say we are working together, we can make progress, these are big problems, but we are working together to solve them. lewis: one quick question on the wall itself and the announcement, because that is
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caught so many headlines. what has the reaction been? james: it depends on who you ask. if you talk to migrant advocates and asylum seeker advocates, there is real disappointment and anger at the biden administration. he really campaigned on this idea no walls. the idea of affordable is associated with donald the idea of a border wall is associated with donald trump and the republican party, so on that site it is seen as a betrayal. there are others who think it is a necessary step to stop border crossings this is more of a conservative move to install more border wall. i don't get a sense that conservatives think biden is there men on the border even when he makes moves like this. lewis: interesting. let's talk about the wider problem. we have been looking at the issue in europe. the issue of migration is huge here. politicians trying to get to some kind of agreement. it is an issue which is huge in
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scale, clearly. are you expecting -- you said no major announcement so far on any of the issues for the high-level visit. is there anything we should be listening out for? can we expect anything concrete at the end of this? james: i think it is teresting the way blinken is talking about this. you hear so much focus on enforcement and deterrence policies to get migrants not to come. it is interesting to hear him talking about what are other things that we can do. migration has been my main focus face from here in mexico for almost the last seven years. the rhetoric has been the same for about seven years, that we needed to attack root causes, we need to stop peoe from coming. we're seeing the same things over and over again. there are different problems, different economic and security crises in central america and south america that drive people north. and i think what we should be
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looking for is is united states going to continue to invest in alternatives, places that people who are trying to go to the united states can go instead of making this dangerous journey towards the united states. i think that is what to look for. what are other reasonable alternatives people can have to resettle elsewhere? mexico is expected to receive more than 150,000 asylum applications this year. that's a record. we are seeing that people are considering alternatives to going to the united states. lewis: interesting. james frederick, thanks so much. james: thanks for having me. lewis: we come back to the u.k. now, because there has been plenty of focus on the rishi sunak speech at the conservative party conference in manchester, setting out his, well, vision for the country. that has people asking, what is sunakism. he spoke a little earlier on radio four. prime min. sunak: measures to
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restrict choice are never easy, but smoking is fundamentally different for a couple of reasons. firstly, unlike lots of other product that may not be good for you, there is no safe level of smoking. it can't be part of a balanced diet. it is also highly addictive and is responsible for one in four cancer deaths in our country. it kills 64,000 people a year. it is the single biggest preventable cause of death, disability, and illness that we see, and it puts money middle pressure on the nhs. one hospital admission everything a minute, 17 billion pounds of cost to our nhs and country. lewis: that is rishi sunak sitting at part of his vision f let's speak to the deputy editor of the conservative home website. thank you for coming on the program. >> you're welcome. lewis: rishi sunak any alleging the tension between small state and large state. sunakism, can you define it? >> no, i still can't even after
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his speech yesterday. i was waiting. it has really added up to a series of announcements which don't have a coherent ideological through-line running through them. there is the smoking announcement, which is a baffling one on several levels. one, it cuts across the traditional conservative emphasis on small sta. but also the maths is simply wrong. if his policy were successful eliminating smoking, and there is reason to think it would, that would increase the pressure on the nhs because the major long-term drivers advantage is our an aging long team population and at the obesity crisis. then have the railway announcements and tinkering with potentially substantial changes to education in england that were announced off-the-cuff. it is still hard to take that collection of pocies and step back and join those three dots and go this is what sunakism is.
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lewis:oes it matter anyway? do you have to have an ism? >> you don't have to. i think you do when you are in the position that sunak is in. if things are going generally well and your parties comfortably had in the polls and there is a strong political consensus and your countries working, you can be very managerial. if you are posing as diagnosing a fundamental problem, then yes, you do need to have an ism. that is the big tension in rishi sunak's conference performance. his slogan in the start of his speech, he was making big claims about how we have been doing politics, we have been doing politics montfort 30 years but he is going -- wrong for 30 years but he is going to make decisions differently. and that he didn't put any meat on those bones. he didn't tell us how he was going to make decisions to filling out because he was offered a series of announcements. rishi seems to know the
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man the moment requires in terms of having that big solution, but his instincts are all managerial. lewis: we've only got 10 seconds left -- will this damages election chances? >> it won't damage them but it won't help them very much. lewis: fascinating f thank you for sticking to time. great to have your analysis and thoughts. do stay with us. planning more online as always, and i will be back in a couple of minutes. i'm lewis vaughan jones. narrator: funding for this presentation of this program is provided by... narrator: financial services firm, raymond james. narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. and by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. ♪ ♪
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