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plus, visiting the boards where the bard once strode. scholars and where they believe shakespeare himself once performed. ♪ hello, and welcome to world news america. in a significant shift in policy, u.s. president joe biden is waiving 26 federal laws to allow nearly 20 miles of border wall to be built on the nation's southern border with america. it's in -- it's in texas where high numbers are reported from mexico. president bide bide is being criticized for the move. one of his first moves in office was to issue a proclamation that
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no more american taxpayer dollars would be diverted to construct a rder wall. here's what he said in 2020. >> there will not be another foot of wall constructeduring my administration. we're going to use high-tech capacity to deal with it. >> now three years later, here's what the president has to say. >> the border wall, the money was appropriated for it. i tried to get them to reappropriate it, redirect that money. they didn't, they wouldn't. in the meantime, there's nothing under the law other than they have to use the money for which it was appropriated. i can't stop that. >> machine than 245,000 crossings having made this year in the rio grande valley area along. september's data is expected to show record cross, in august, the u.s. apprehended just under 1800,000 along the southern
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border. up 50,000 in just one month. and mexico's president said that last week alone, 10,000 people arrived a is the border every day. the response from mexico, meanwhile, was negative. the president told reporter he believed the construction of a wall is a setback and doesn't solve any problems. here in the u.s., we spoke to members of congress on both sides of the aisle about this wall, including republican congressman ralph norman, who supports a wall but is frustrated. congressman norman, thank you very much for joining us. if we could start with a developing story today, the biden administration has authorized the building of a wall along the border using funds approved for that purpose in 2019. given everything that president biden has said about a border wall, about building a word border wall, wish surprised with his decision? >> well, what i was surprised with was in 2020 his platform
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was not building the wall anymore. according to biden, it's not a serious policy solution and he did not think walls work, which is total insanity. now, he's proposed 20 miles to be built in the stamp counsel in texas, using funds already appropriated in 2019 and d.h.s. is right to use nose funds for that purpose. here's what's interesting. what's changed? i tell you what's changed. the american people are sick and tired of seeing their cities overrun, their hospitals full, their schools full. the police having to deal with illegals who they don't have any background, they have no information on them. they put themselves at physical risk and it's really an inlt and the biden administration is totally doing this for power and
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if they really were serious, they would call out the military and stop everybody from crossing. it wouldn't be that hard to do. president trump built over 200 miles of wall so you have to stop them at a point of entry and it's an insult for him to say they didn't work and now he says they work. so i don't put any stock in what he says and whether he will actually do it -- i was out there. the steel is on the ground. the contractors are being paid to do nothing. so it's an insult but we'll see what happens. >> if we can turn to the republicans in the house of representatives there. lots going on this week. you voted to keep kevin mccarthy in his seat as speaker. we know what happened there. who would you like to be the next speaker? >> i'm publicly supporting jim jordan. jim is a fighter, a great communicator. he will care the message and be a great speaker.
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we're lucky to have a number of people, steve scalise being one of them but the fact that steve is taking chemo and the fact that he will be tired from what i'm told from peace of mind who have had chemo. but we have great candidates. but i think for the time now that we're facing and the things we're facing in america, jim jordan is the man >> given what happened, is it time for some soul searching within the republican party? a small number of the party has managedded to remove the speaker from his office and the situation now where no work is going to happen for the next week until a new speaker is elected. >> contrary to what you're hearing, only in washington, d.c. are they espousing the government's in total chaos, the world is ending, knock can get done. here's the reality. committees can still meet.
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granted, they can't take bills to the floor but neck still moment and i would make the argument that if you interview 10 people all across america, what is your top five concerns, i don't think they would say not having a speaker is a concern. i think what they would say is i'm concerned about theas prices i'm paying, supply campaign shortages. about the 15 million illegals that are sapping the 100-plus programs that they will be put on. i think you'll hear that not having a speaker is not a big thing. >> nevertheless, you can't move forward to agree any of the appropriation bills without the speaker there. there's a lot that you can't do and as we know, the clock is sticking on that stopgap bill to chemothe government open until the middle of november.
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>> but you can still moment. bear in mind speaker mccarthy brought a lot of this on himself. we were supposed to have this in june and june. the date of october 1 never changed. what did we do for all of august? we were unreels for five weeks. that's unexcusable. meat gaetz didn't violate any rules. he took to the floor and everybody voted on it. granted, this is something that hasn't happened since 1801 but bottom line,hat he did was perfectly within his right. i didn't sign on it to because i thought it was too early and i thought the 12 appropriations should be considered. i was one of the five that held my vote for mccarthy to have answered -- answers. meat gaetz was right on a lot of the things he says about promises made, promises not
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kept. i think this shows democracy, i think this is good for the system. and you'll have those who feel directly opposite, which is final. >> congressman norman, thank you sheriff for joining you. >> thank you. >> we also start if with diplomatic congressman cuellar. this wall is set to be built in his district. thank you very much for joining us. president biden has announced he's going to build 17 miles of a border wall in your district that was approved in 2018. given the president's previous state on the border wall, were you surprised by in announcement? >> we look at the 1974 impoundment law that says you have to spend moneys according to what congress has instructed. i knew it was going to come up at one time or another. itches hoping that the $1
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billion-plus money left over was to be used in other ways but unfortunately they're going to use it to build the fence. about 1/3 the public owns it. the over 1/3 is property they've already gotten from private land owners and there's still another 1/3 left they have to either talk to folks or condemn, which i hope they don't go into any condemnations. yeah, it's a 1974 law that is asking them to go into this. i can understand moving on the fence because the 1974 impoundment law forces them to do that but my question is why do they have to waive environmental laws? i don't think there's anything that i know of that forces them to waive environmental laws. they could wait up to five years if they wanted to but tt's a
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question we're trying to get from the administration. >> do you have any indication of the reason for that yet? >> we're tr try -- trying to fid out. we just found out about the waiver yesterday. i do want to say they came up wwith an idea because i told thm i didn't like this one. we knew this was coming. i-did talk to them and they came up with what we call a jersey wall with a fence on top of it so you can use to fork little bit and move it around depending on where the movement of people might be where it's -- so it's not a permanent structure where they destroyhe land. all them to have is the space where they can put in wall. so it's much, much better that i can use that term than the fence that president trump wanted to do.
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>> there are people who want in fence or wall in whatever form it may be built. members of the house of representatives, republican lawmakers. the former president. some of those used the word invasion to describe the number of immigrants ae.r.a.ing here at the moment. >> you know, i can show you some heat maps that show you that in the places where we have fences already, that is the area where the largest numbers of people are crossing and - for example, in texas, you have a river, the middle of the river is the inteational boundary -- boundary. in the middle of the river. there's no fence there and then there's no fence by the bank because we know that the water will wash it so most of the fencing we have is about a quarter of a mile or half a mime away from the international border so you tell me how a fence will stop because the moment somebody touches the
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riverbanks they will ask for asylum and they walk up a quarter of a mile or half a mile and you're taking, for the first time in history, we're ceding away hundreds of thousands of acres, farmland, ranchland, to a mo-man's property by putting in fence. again, if you want to stop drugs, keep in mind that 90% to 4% of method cocaine comes through ports of entry and not in between ports. again, heat maps will show you what that the places where you have if largest numbers of people cing to the board every is where we have a fence already. >> how will this news be received biconstituents, by those people living in star county? >> i don't think they're going to be very happy with it and, again, i will sit down with them as soon as i can as you know, we are tied up with trying to select a new speaker
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and then pretty soon we're going to have another c.r. or government shutdown situation so we have a lot of things to do but i am making phone calls to my constituents to talk to them and see what is the best way forward on that. but the way that the administration came up with its new fence, it doesn't tear up the environment because it lays on top and doesn't do the digging in there. so it's a different type of fencing that you can move around so i my think that will soften the blow a little bit. but, again, i'm still against a 14th century solution called a wall. and instead of placing fencing on the border, look at what they did in 2019, they got mexico to do more. you stop them before they come
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to our u.s. border. that's why in 2015 and 2019, you saw numbers going down and right now the homeland secretary, c.v.p. commissioner are all in mexico trying to convince the mexicans to do a lot more. >> we live it there for the moment. congressman cuellar from texas. thank you very much for joining us. a russian air strike in ukraine killed at least 51 people on sunday. the strike happened in the kharkiv region, which is primarily civilian. residents were gathered in a local cafe for the memorial service of a ukraine soldier when the attack happened. among the dead include the widow's son, daughter. following the attack president zelensky accused russia of
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genocidal aggression. >> this body is badly burned, said the rescuer. maybe you'll recognize them. no, it's not her, the woman reapplies. mitchell attacks are an almost daily occurrence here but rarely are they this destructive. a well rehearsed routine f emergency crews which doesn't get any easier. my brother, sister-in-law and my mother were killed. >> slammer's -- xander's family were at a funeral wake. most of the victims had been sitting around a large table in a cafe. a shared moment of grief cut short. ruslan says constantly, constantly we're pulling out someone. it was a night their. ukraine accuses russia of launching a short-range ballistic missile, killing more
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than 50 in a village of 300. >> we were in a town nearby and heard an explosion. we were told that something happened and we came because my mother was here. >> ring tones fill the silence. from the phones of the dead. >> russian military knew where they were striking. it was not a blind attack. people had gathered there for a memorial meal. who could launch a missile at them? only absolute evil. >> at a speec vladimir putin didn't reference the attack but suggested ukraine would be dead within a week if its western help was to stop. ukraine is fighting to prevent that from happening. but it's hurting. james water house, bbc news, kyiv. >> a drone attack on a military
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academy in the western city of hans has left several killed. it was attended by cadets' families and women and children were among the dead. the attack is believed to have been launched from opposition areas northwest of the area. they have battled the syrian government suns since the country's civil war ban in 2011 a little over two weeks since azerbaijan started a. the military quickly overwhelmed separatist forces. the meeting between the two was scheduled to take place in spain but was canceled. our diplomatic correspondent
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paul adams has spent the last few days there on a press trip organid by the very authorities. >> the stillness after the storm in a region torn apart by decades of conflict, has peace finally come and at what cost? two weeks after azerbaijan's lightning operation, we're taken to bunkers and trenches abandoned by armenian rebels. we're on seeing what the authorities want us to see. the armenians left in a hurry. signs of haste but not fighting. the logbook records activity until 10 days before as be a jane struck. so for three years, this was the front line with the armenian rebels holding this ridgeline overlooking their city down there in the valley and the azari military down in control
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up there on the hill. but in 24 hours, everything changed. these fnt liens vanished and now everything is silent. we move on down the road used by armenian civilians as they fled in panic. evidence of sudden panic. the armenians didn't wait for their enemies to arrive. this, azerbaijan said, was there choice. >> the civilian has decided, many of them, to leave. and of course, in this risk, and we respect freedom of choice and freedom of movement and also the majority of the population on the grounds have -- they say i cannot live under the flag of azerbaijan. >> is this kind of the end of this whole 30-year story, in your view? >> we hope that we are finally
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coming to the final solution of this 200-year-old conflict. azerbaijan wants peace. >> as be a jalen feels that history is on its side. there's a real sense of stride here but acourt sensitivity too. this is as close as we were allowed to get tot abandoned armenian city at the center of this whole story. accused of causing a hum fair disaster, our hosts w. ready to show us itself deserted streets. >> other news, in the u.s. an armed man demanding to speak to the wisconsin governor was apprehend, posted bail and only t be released again. he then came back with an assault style rifle. the governor was not in his
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capitol office at the time. scottish officers have signed off on the extradition of american andrew rossi. he apparently faked his own depth to avoid charges in the u.s. he says he is an irish orphan named arthur wright. president biden's dog commander has been removed from the white house after a series of incidents where he reportedly built secret service agents. the 2ear-old german shepherd is the second first dog to leave the white house due to biting incidents. finally, a theater in britain says it has discovered what's thought to be the only the surviving stage on which william shakespeare performed as an actor. our correspondent went for a look. >> the boards of the bard. >> we know that these were
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definitely here in 1592 and in 1592 we think spikes peer is performing in king's glenn. so this is likely the surface he was performing on. >> they were looking at this as part of a renovation project when a discovery was made. >> we wanted to open up an area just so see if anything surviving was here and lo and behold, this is it. >> quite exciting to think that shakespeare could have stood here. >> it is. >> the guild hall is the oldest working theater in the u.k. with performances dating back to 1445. >> we're amongst the seats. what setup would it have been in shakespeare's time? >> this would have been level
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all here and all the way back. that part is where the privileged, wealthy who you have sat so if there was a performance going on, it would have been in this area. so shakespeare, if he was performing here, would have been on this spot. >> when it comes to sometimes, shakespeare famously wrote about it. >> all the world is a stage. >> by as for the proof that shakespeare stood on this one -- >> the account books prove that is shakespeare's company was proved to play here. we know that shakespeare was on stage in that time. a critic who that shakes spear was an upstart crow. if shakespeare was playing anywhere in 19 tv 5 -- 1593, he was here.
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>> about the size of a tennis court, this floor is,00 years old. knot just shakespeare stood here but everything else in between. >> first stop, their findings be shared and detected and the future of the floor discussed. colin patterson, bbc news. >> thank you for watching "world news america." do take care. narrator: funding for this presentation of this program is provided by... narrator: financial services firm, raymond james. narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. and by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. ♪ ♪
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