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andy kind of conclusion -- any kind of conclusion to this campaign must include in it two very clear aspects. one of them is the dismantling of hamas as a military framework. and the second, a return of the hostages to the state of israel. i am obligated to it. the entire security system and defense system is. and we will do it. it is newly a whole month that the idf has been working very hard in the gaza strip in a very precise manner, in a lethal manner, and it is being done so with a collaboration of the ground forces, air forces, and those from the sea. all with very accurate gss and other entities and they are all doing it with very precise intel. and they are doing so side-by-side in full collaboration.
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we are slowly but surely dismantling the framework, the military framework of hamas. we are heading at they're in for structure underground, overground, the actual leaders of the hamas. and time and time again, we see evidence, for example, the terrorists immediately tell us what has been happening there. during this entire time, something else has been achieved while the idf are maneuvering in the actual in gaza, they are creating that outline. they are paving the way for this agreement and that is the way, that is the reason that i actually recommended that we should go in and we should go into the depths of gaza because
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then there is a better chance to be able to bring back our hostages. we are talking about animals. we are talking about really heinous crimes they committed. and we have to show them what is the capability of the idf and create an outline that would bring our hostages back. as long as they progress into the actual strongholds of the hamas, they are improving our chances to bring the hostages home. i sincerely hope the outline that has been agreed upon will be actually executed. and although others were suggested to us, this was the one we believed was the best. and we believe this was based on everything that was actually done. the top-quality results of what we were doing. and i believe you will actually see the results in the next few
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days. i have heard the fears and the trepidation about the fact that we a going to stop that war so i would like to say to you unequivocally here that i the gss and the idf and the entire defense system must comple that work until we have eradicated hamas as a military framework and bring home the hostages. all that was what i thought about the entire time, especially yesterday at that meeting with the whole of the government, and we know that is the best thing to do, and we are going to bring them home. and i demanded that they should add a clause about what will happen the day after, after the hostages have been brought home.
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and so the unanimous decision that was made by the government is that we should continue with that war in order to fulfill our objectives, to bring them home and eliminate hamas and all its subsidiaries in the gaza strip israel is obligated to do so. we are all committed to do so, and i myself personally am also committed. this evening, i have been thinking various thoughts about the difficulty but also a mixture with happiness and pain, yes on one hand i am certainly happy and really believed that at long last we will be able to release those hostages and bring them home, but i am also looking at those who we will not be able
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to at this stage release. but we are committed to bringing them home too. and we will continue deepening that campaign and that effort unl we do because we have to continue wielding pressure, increasing that pressure on hamas in order to reach a situation where we can release all those who were abducted and bring them home. the children, the young girl ldiers, boy soldiers, the elderly people, the holocaust survivors, everyone. we want to bring them all, each and every one of them, and we will not tire, we will not rest until we achieve that aim. >> you are watching "the context " on bbc news. you have been listening to the defense minister, and this is the war cabinet giving their explanation to the israeli
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public on the deal they approved yesterday, and we all know 12 hours from the start of a cease fire in the beginning of a process to complete 50 of the israeli hostages returning, most if not all of them were women and children of israeli and dual national dissent. prime minister netanyahu just announced in the press conference the red cross will be allowed to visit the remaining hostages in gaza and report back on their condition. earlier, he revealed the release will be staged over four days during which there will be no fighting and for six hours a day, no drone surveillance over gaza. the release of every additional 10 hostages will result in one additional day in the pause. this meal published a list of 300 palestinian prisoners who could be released under this deal, including the names, ages, and offenses of those eligible. joining me to discuss all of th is the deputy secretary-general of the fat central committeeah -- fatah
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central committee. walking to the program. the past six and a half weeks, there have been hundreds of palestinians arrested in the west bank. does that suggest to you the israelis were preparing for some time for an exchange agreent? >> good evening to you. good to be with you. certainly, israel has been caught in this war in a way that is becoming more formidable in the language it uses. it is clear the so-called war cabinet has succeeded on the idea of concluding this war no matter what it takes. they speak at ease without caring for the lives of palestinians, especially the women, children, and elderly being killed around the minute. israel has planned this. israel wants to expand this to the west bank, and i am not sure as to where this is going to end. will it end with this phase of exchange? will it continue to be good news?
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things are spinning out of control and there are variables in this. >> if it does not end and the conflict resumes in the south, how concerned are you about the explosion of a third intifada in the west bank? how close are we to that? >> we are extremely close, especially with the fact that the israel conflict is ongoing. the round-the-clock of palestinian activists is nonstop. the violence by the settlers is most alarming and taking different shapes. in the use of weaponry that israel is perpetrating is extremely dangerous and volatile israel is hitting the west bank front supplying its operations in gaza, everybody watching is wondering what happened to humanity? excepting the killing of scores of palestinians. if you compare the figures, that is the equivalent to 400,000 brits and 1.7 million americans
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proportion wise vis-a-vis the population size, so the situation is extremely volatile, and those who are watching us need to say to themselves, will this ever bring peace to the region? i got it. >> you will be aware the ball is very much in hamas's court, so if they were to release 10 hostages a day past the four days that were already agreed, the cease-fire, the temporary truce would continue and would continue for many more days where they to keep releasing hostages. it is now in the power of hamas to control whether this restarts. >> well, let me be honest with you and tell you what would happen if hamas releases all hostages. i would say israel would still continue with the war. netaahu wants to control gaza. it is clear he wants to operate in the south as well despite all warnings he is receiving. but he is fixated on the idea of
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eliminating the palestinian presence altogether in the gaza strip, so no matter what happens lisa b hostages, we will continue to see the continuation of hostilities. you joined me earlier in hearing what the war cabinet has been saying. it is clear they are comfortable, they have political cover, they have external cover, american support, so they are continuing guys in whom they kill. i think it is about time that the world reconsiders matters and thinks twice aut the operation. if you allow me just one lessons, i would say you cannot fix a problem with the same tools that have caused it, so this has been tried many times, the use of scum and it has gotten us nowhere. >> can i just ask you, sorry to interrupt, we are pressing time, but can i ask you about the 300 names on the list the israeli government have produced? among them, 33 women. did you get any input into that list, and what timescales have
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you been given for the return of palestinian prisoners? >> its unclear so far. it is up to them to finalize the deal and fix up the time and the quantity, so we are waiting for the finalization. i have seen so many lists and it is so unclear. >> why are there 300 on this list rather than the 150, which was part of the agreement? >> i would say because israel was preparing to go to the high court for the procedures to be completed to prepare itself. >> can i ask you about the comments from president biden? there is an awful lot of diplomacy at the moment. the palestinian foreign minister was in the studio here yesterday. he is meeting with david cameron today and goes to paris tomorrow and then i understand there are question leaders who will be going to the middle east in the coming days. mr. biden wants a renewed palestinian authority, but it is quite clear now that
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palestinians are not satisfied with abbas as leader. he brought corruption to the west bank and canceled elections in 2021. are there reformists in the west bank that could lead a unified government? >> we have heard all of this before in the past when it was the tenure of chairman arafat. israel is playing on this record, which is becoming broken in a way that it wants to show the palestinian is competent. israel says to the international community they are incompetent and cannot lead gaza so we might as well import an authority from outside or get a fixed leadership that will allow israel to run gaza. using the same tools is going to
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lead us nowhere. >> ok, we will have to leave it there. always grateful to have your thoughts. thank you for coming on the program. let's show you the pictures from tel aviv. you will see prime minister netanyahu is now taking questions from the press. we heard from the israeli defense who said that slowly but surely they are dismantling the military framework of hamas. he says he sincerely hopes the hostage release agreement will be actually executed, and he hopes the results of negotiations will be seen in the next few days, so punch of tension, plenty of uncertainty of course. four days of a temporary truce. we will expect maybe 10 or 12 hostages to be released sometime tomorrow with the truce beginning at 10:00 in the morning local time. we will bring you more from the press conference if we get it. across the world and here in the u.k., you are watching bbc news.
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let's take a quick look at some of the other stories making news today. evidence has emerged china is closing down, demolishing, and converting mosques in an effort to restrict the practice of islam. human rights watch says the authorities are also removing architectural features to make mosques look more chinese. there are about 20 million muslims in china, which is officially atheist but says it allows religious freedom. huge waterspouts have been captured on camera off of the coast in southern italy. one alarm to people nearby as it made its way towards the port at high speed, but it did not cause any damage. waterspouts similar to tnadoes but they form over a body of water. four remaining band members of south korea's capon phenomenon bts have begun the process of enlisting for compulsory military service. the label asked fans to continue supporting them until they return safely from conscription.
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nearly every able-bodied south korean is obliged to enlist in the three older band members are already doing their 18 month service. you are watching bbc news. to that breaking news we have been covering the last hour on the u.s.-canada border. the rainbow bridge connecting the two countries at niagara falls has been closed after a vehicle exported, killing the two people inside. witnesses said the car was traveling at a high speed from the direction of canada when he crashed and blew up. the white house has been briefed on the situation as well as canadian prime minister justin trudeau. it is being invested get it by the joint terrorism task force. the canadian prime minister has been speaking about the incident. >> mr. speaker, this is obviously very serious situation in niagara falls. there was a vehicle explosion at the rainbow bridge crossing. i have been briefed by the minister of public safety and the nsia and transport canada,
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all fully engaged in providing the necessary support. there are a lot of questions. we are following up to try to get as many answers as rapidly as possible. we are in close contact with u.s. officials and will continue to work closely with them. we will continue to be engaged and provide updates. object i can give right now is there are four border crossings that are now closed. additional measures are being contemplated and activated at all border crossings across the country. we are taking this extraordinarily seriously. mr. speaker, i will have to excuse myself now to get further updates and work on this very serious situation. thank yo mr. speaker. >> justin trudeau speaking to parliament. let's bring in gary donahue in washington watching reaction for us. can we clear up what we think happened and in which direction this vehicle was traveling? >> the car seems to have been
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traveling from canada into the united states across the rainbow bridge. what we have from eyewitnesses and from some statements from law-enforcement's it seemed to hit somethinon that bridge and then exploded in quite a dramatic way. we are getting reports from our partners that two people in the car died as a rult of that explosion. we heard from a local hospital that someone else was treated for minor injuries. we think that may be one of the border agent or someone on the ground, not in the car. what we know is that all of those border crossings between canada and the u.s. have now been closed. there are four bridges, rainbow bridge being one of them, but three others in the niagara falls area. they have been closed about directions. the fbi and local police are involved. the joint terrorism task force is involved and there are
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conflicting lines coming out from officials. we have had one official in washington say it looks more than a freak accident. but also, we have heard from another news organization. this is nbc, who is not one of our partners, but a respected news organization, suggesting law enforcement have told them there were no explosives found in the car. there is no confirmation of that whatsoever at this particular time, but everyone is still taking the situation seriously because of the thanksgiving holiday which happens here tomorrow and millions of people traveling in the u.s. and at any time around big holidays, there are majorecurity concerns. >> gary donahue in washington, we will come back to you if we get further news on that. thank you for the moment. some breaking news coming to us from the netherlands. the first exit polls have come in. the anti-eu far right populist who has vowed to halt all
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immigration to the netherlands is in the clear leader. this party is at 35 out of 500 seats. you might member the former eu leader on climate change. the party of the outgoing prime minister, the conservative was in third place at 23 seats. that exit polls showed immigration is an issue that has triggered the collapse of the cabinet after 13 years in power forget haseen a key issue in the campaign. obviously we need to get some clarification on the exit poll and we also need to speak to someone about how the coalitions might form because although he has the most seats, we don't know if he would of course be able to lead with a majority, so we will find out about the internal machinations of all of that in a few minutes. stay with us for that. it was budget day in the u.k.
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the chancellor said his tax giveaway which included 110 supply-side reforms is a bold plan for growth. certainly there was plenty to go on. 50 million over the next two years to increase the number of apprentices in engeering and key growth sectors. concierge service for large international investors, 500 million pounds over the next two years to find further innovation in ai, 2 billion for zero emission investments in the automotive sector, almost a billion for aerospace, half a billion for life-sciences, and a personal taxation, 2% cut in national insurance, which he hopes will help 27 million employees. joining me to discuss it all is the chief u.k. columnist for deutsche bank, and also with us is the cofounder and director of delta poll. thank you for being with us. i could start with you perhaps, look, there is a clamor out
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there for more spending and public services, but unless the economy grows and productivity increases, there will not be the money for those services, so what would you pick out of the budget today that might help stimulate growth? >> thanks for having me on. we are expecting and hoping for a low-key event but this was anything but to get as you said, 15 billion pounds spent. the key policy measure for me looking at these forecasts and if i look at the policy measures that were announced, 100 plus, it all comes down to the capex allowance. very strong, supply-side measure. more confidence, more certainty in terms of investing. as a country, we have done poorly in terms of investing purely from the private sector side so i think this will go a long way. it is not a game changer but it is certainly a step in the right direction. columnists like myself have been kicking, begging, and screang for the chancellor to do more on incentivizing capex, and i think
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this is one of those measures that will help achieve that. >> it seems he needs to achieve it. can we quickly talk about the growth forecast? the independent obr has put out revised figures today. pretty optimistic. they downgraded today in 2024 and 1.4% in 2025. that is a fairly sizable drop from what they predicted in march, so how is for all of this? >> it is a good question, but there are two reasons why. the chancellor has had a much bigger fiscal windfall than expected and one that would allow him to push through the 15 million pounds of tax cuts. number one, the u.k. economy has fared better than expected. back in the spring, we expected the u.k. economy to fall into a recession. that has not happened. it was a humbling exercise for economists including ourselves where we expected the economy to slow down substantially.
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it did not. if you look at what matters for the obr for the public finances, it is the starting point of the economy and the cash size of the economy. if you look at the forecast, yes, you are absolutely correct, they have been downgraded. growth rate of come down. the ob art is adjusted lower. they think the economy can sustainably grow. however, what they have done is increased the novel size of gdp by five percentage point. so that is the key reason why the chancellor has had a much gger windfall than we expected and what he has a limit as much as he has. >> what is really interesting in the polling that you tweeted out today is that consistently across all major demographics, growing the economy is seen as a far bigger priority than lowering taxes. why? >> yes, that is absolutely right. if you ask what the government priority should be, fewer than one in 10 people say it should be cutting taxes.
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instead, growing the economy by some distance preferred over cutting taxes, and it could be argued and i am sure it will be argued by many within the conservative party the kind of changes that happen announced today are intended to do all of those things. but of course what this is ultimately about is the next general election and the battle for the hearts and minds of voters. jeremy hunt is clearly hoping the kind of messages he is sending out in totality will be enough to convince voters to move over to the conservatives and he will help the conservative party will be able to regain at least some of the reputation for economic competence and economic management because for over a year now, the gap has been uble figures in favor of labor and really has not moved at all, and so if that situation continues, it is very bad news for the conservatives going to the next election. >> jt very quickly, 30
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seconds, if you were pointed to one the election would come on the evidence of today's budget? >> i reckon it will be next year. [laughter] >> in a month, come on. >> november is the most likely. next may is likely but not the most preferred one. >> you should always trust joe toead the tea leaves. telling you there is an election next year. thank you for coming on the program. very much appreciate it. narrator: funding for this presentation of this program is provided by... narrator: financial rvices firm, raymond james. man: bdo. accountants and advisors. narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. and by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. ♪ ♪
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