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the shooting. troops were deployed to secure the area and set up checkpoints. witnesses says that gunfire lasted for nearly half an hour. >> we were at work. we heard gunfire. it did not take a lot of time but we heard around 15 to 20 rounds of gunfire. we ran to see what was happening and suddenly the army blocked us from going in. >> officials say the gunman's motives are not clear but media has published photos that appears to show a suspect wearing a black vest with the words islamic state written in arabic and the english initials i.n.s. the state department says the embassy will reopen for business tomorrow. thousands of ultra nationalist israels -- took part in the parade. massive crowds marched through the palestinian area of jerusalem here are some chanting anti-arab slogans. some clashes between demonstrators and police broke out.
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authorities say 18 marchers were arrested. meantime, prime minister netanyahu visited israel's northern border with lebanon. yesterday hezbollah rocket attacks parts brush fires. during a tour of a military base, netanyahu address calls to ramp up israel's response. >> yesterday the land was burning here but the ground was also on fire in lebanon. whoever thinks that he will hurt us and we will sit idly by is making a big mistake. we are prepared for a very strong action in the north. one way or another, we will restore security here. >> israel and hezbollah have been exchanging fire for months, displacing tens of thousands of people on both sides of the border. russia is preparing to deploy war ships and aircraft for military exercises it for the care -- in the caribbean. u.s. officials say the biden administration is expressing concern over the deployment. the exerciser being seen as a
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messaging tactic after president biden gave ukraine permission last week to fire u.s.-made weapons into russia for defensive reasons. the drills would be russia's first in the western hemisphere since 2019. a man in mexico has died from a strain of bird flu that had never been forbidden -- before been found in a human. the man was infected with hfn2, which is different than h5n1. the risk is low and no other human cases have been discovered pit hunter biden's ex-wife and his former girlfriend took the stand at his criminal trial in delaware today. they testified to their experiences witnessing drug use by the president's son, including the moment his then wife found a crack pipe. hunter biden faces three felony charges relating to his buying a gun in 2018 while using drugs.
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first lady jill biden has attended every day of the trial so far. but she will travel to meet the president in france later today. separately, house republicans sent criminal referrals to the justice department today accusing hunter biden and the president's brother james biden of making false statements to congress. this as part of a broader impeachment inquiry trying to tie the president to his son's business dealings. so far republicans have presented no evidence of such involvement. on the u.s. hold the senate ejected a bill this afternoon aimed at protecting women's right to contraception. it fell short of the votes needed to pass. regardless of the outcome, democrats were intent on putting their republican colleagues on the record when it comes to reproductive rights ahead of the november election. the majority leader chuck schumer said the vote achieved that goal. >> today was not a show vote. this was a show us who you are
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vote. and senate republicans showed the american people exactly who they are. >> a similar vote over protecting access to in vitro fertilization is expected as soonest next week. the planet is on a twelve-month streak of setting new heat records. every month for the last year has been the hottest month ever recorded. according to the european union's climate monitoring service. the head of the u.n. blamed fossil fuel companies calling for a windfall tax on the industry's profits. and the first banknotes featuring king charles iii enter circulation in the u.k. today. customers lined up outside the bank of england's headquarters in london to be among the first to get their hands on the notes. the portrait of the king will up here on all 5, 10, 20 and 50 pound bills. he is only the second british monarch to a peer on the currency. the first, of course, was his mother queen elizabeth ii who died in 2022.
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still to come, current and former employees worn open a.i. is not doing enough to prevent its systems from becoming a danger to humanity. veteran negotiator mickey bergman discusses his new book on the shadowy world of international hostage rescue. and an airline attendant gives his brief but spectacular take on the miracle of flight. >> this is the pbs newshour. from weta studios in washington and in the west from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. >> while joe biden and donald trump earned enough delegates to win the respective party nominations months ago, the primary season is only now officially coming to a close. the two men swept the handful of states that voted yesterday, but both still s some opposition from primary voters. we now turn to our regular contributors. our democratic and republican
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strategists. thanks for being here. let's talk about what we can take away from these contest last night and what matters to voters right now. if you look at the results from one state, new mexico, on the republican side, this is two weeks after nikki haley said she would support trump. we are seeing her pull in primaries. mr. trump has 84%, nikki haley with 9, and uncommitted getting 3%. for the democrats, mr. biden with an overwhelming win, 84% but uncommitted getting 10% of the votes, and marianne williamson getting 7%. kevin, what does this say to you right now about the level of discontent with these two major party candidates and whether they will change in early voting? >> yeah. one of the deciders of this election are coming down to the double -- the candidates, the voters out there who just don't like either one of these candidates. but i think the other thing that we have learned is that there is still a lot of unfinished business.
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joe biden definitely still has a problem with his base. he has a lot of younger voters, a lot of disaffective voters that have not yet come home. donald trump still has the nikki haley voter problem. here he is, three months after the republican nomination has been decided, and he still has a hard time uniting the party. and if those voters stay home in november, that is going to make or break whether or not donald trump is able to win the election. so, these candidates have very clear challenges ahead. but neither one of them has really come up with a strategy or a message to confront and solve those problems yet. so that is what the next couple months will be about. >> how do you see that? >> picking up that point, i see joe biden trying to address what he knows to be concerns within his base. so if you look at the efforts of the last week or two, saying to black voters, and morehouse and in philadelphia to say, i need
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black voters and here's the problems with donald trump iton . on gaza, i will talk about israel and and this war. he is not unaware that he has a problem. you can see that the uncommitted vote is down for michigan and minnesota from before. a bit of consolidation pretty needs that numbers to be well up over 90% to win the general election. that base has to come in very strongly. the number of voters that it will show up in the general election way outnumber the ones in the party but if he can fix his primary problem it suggests it can also trike -- she can also bring back the enthusiasm he needs to win the general election. >> let's look at the key races. that help decide control of the senate this fall. in new jersey after last night, democratic congressman auntie kim is officially the democratic candidate. but the incumbent -- andy kim is the democratic candidate. bob menendez is now running as an independent making a three way race between kim, and the republican candidate and menendez. how should democrats be handling this right?
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>> i think menendez's independent campaign is an effort to maintain his legal defense. there is no staff. >> could he siphon votes? >> if he stays on the ballot. that is an open question. he will go through defense and see if you can resolve that in the time he has to decide whether he wants to be on the ballot. collect the signatures and go to the process. that said, i think andy kim will be winning the race. a diverse class of democrats coming in. lisa rochester and delaware has a chance. in arizona, and andy kim asian american male and that is what you look for it in a democratic senate. >> it is a strong democratic state with a conventionally strong nominee right now. >> new jersey. have not sent to republican to the senate in 50 years. >> this is the republican nominee that emerged last night, somewhat unknown. he has some time in some money
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to get known. but he is still running up against i think a strong new jersey democratic machine. and he is running, andy kim is running against two inferior brands in the sense that republicans are not as well-organized as they need to be, and menendez's brand which is an indicted, somebody under indictment right now, like those provided pretty good contrast for andy kim. >> what about montana? republicans have their nominee to face senator jon tester. a trump endorsed candidate, former navy seal. kevin tester is the last democrat standing. >> sheehy is a very strong candidate, handpicked by the other senator from montana who happens to run the national republican senatorial committee. he will make sure that he has all the montana republican support and the money and resources to take on a pretty well entrenched incumbent
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democrat in tester. tester, one of the problems as an incumbent, he is actually below 50%. any you're incumbent running for reelection and you are below 50%, you're very vulnerable. >> tester is out running biden at this point in time. but are there enough split ticket voters to make a difference for him? >> if anyone can pull it off, jon tester can. he is a popular democrat in the senate. he is a very good campaigner. it is interesting to watch. he is talking about -- consolidation, right to repair it farmers - -and china owning farmland in america peer the kind of issues he's talking about should send a message about how you appeal to conservatives and trump voters and get them to look at you, and the message is for people like tammy baldwin and bob casey, all running in places where they will need to win trump voters to try to win in the general is interesting to watch him do it pretty well. >> still months to go.
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a lot can change between now and when early voting begins. in a minute or so we have your big picture take away in terms of at this point when you look at the races, which party is better positioned to take control of washington this fall? >> for sure, i think the senate right now was about the republicans chances. t-- i feel bullish about the republican chances. trump is running 20 or 15 points ahead of biden. those coat tails are going to be very helpful for a lot of republicans. >> i'm uneasy with the politics of the moment, that said, i remember saying red wave 2022 and when it came down to it in november, common sense voters with decency and character on the ballot, understood it is joe biden and the democrats who offer a better direction in this country. i think that will be the case in november. >> not necessarily the politics of the future. we will have you back to talk about it some more. always great to see you. thanks. >> thank you.
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>> it was a picture-perfect morning for a space launch. >> and liftoff of starliner atlas v carrying two american heroes drawing the line to the stars. >> boeing successfully launched its new starliner space capsule carrying two astronauts marking only the sixth inaugural journey of a crewed spacecraft after several delays due to technical issues peer today's launch -- today's lunch comes four years after spacex launched its first mission with astronauts into orbit. the starliner will dock at the international space station tomorrow morning and nasa astronauts will spend a week before returning home. for the latest in all of this we
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are joined by our science correspondent miles o'brien. tell us more about these veteran astronauts. and what their >> primary goal is could >> veterans, indeed, they both have a lot of time in space. butch 178 days on long long space station mission. sonny 322 days, two stints on the space station. both naval aviators. sonny a proud graduate of the naval academy. test pilots through and through. good people to have on a mission like this because they are wringing this vehicle out, testing the thrusters and the control system and the spacesuits, and the docking capability and they will try to fly it manually. they will do everything they can to see where the bug might bes, and there has been a lot along the way. they also have some important cargo on board. the urine processing system on the space station, which
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converts urine to drinking w ater, yes, folks, that is what they do. i have tried it. it is really how they drink their water and how they get their water. it has failed, and so they are carrying the spare part to fix it. i guess you can say that that is their number one priority. >> miles o'brien. ok. the starliner program, it has been beset by technical problems and delays, cost overruns. why? what accounts for all of that? >> it is hard to say. it is a boeing product. and we've been talking a lot about boeing, you and i. this is a separate division of boeing. it is a space system. weather is some commonality between what is happening with the airliner enterprise and the space enterprise, hard to say from the outside looking in, but it has been quite as scenario starting in 20 19 with software failures that cause the thruster fires to fire so long did not have enough gas to get to the
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space station. it was, you know, kind of a medium black eye for boeing, but today they are in space and on their way to the space station. >> this starliner mission is a test flight required by nasa before they can certify starliner for routine astronaut missions. as we mentioned, there is this and also the space-x program. why is nasa funding and supporting these two space missions by two different contractors? >> space-x has lapped them. they have done a dozen flights and that they have flown 51 people to and from the space station. but i will remind you there was a nine year gap between the last shuttle flight and the first flight of a dragon flight to the international space station and nine years and what did we do? what did nasa do? it bought flights from russia. in today's geopolitical
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environment the idea of re-engaging with russia on a new set of contracts to purchase soyuz rocket flights for astronauts does not seem very tenable. so, it is about redundancy. if one of those rocket systems fails in some way, if there is some sort of problem that grounds it, nasa will not have any means of getting into the international space station. so, like any good space program, they like to have redundancy. >> you mentioned russia. let's talk about china because they are very active in space, too. what are they up to on the mountain? -- on the moon? >> china flew to the far side of the moon and just 24 hours ago, launched from it after scooping up samples and rocks. it will land in mongolia on or about june 25th. no people on board but china has expressed clearly its goal to do so, to plant footprints and
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flags on the moon by 2030. nasa's administrator bill nelson has been very vocal saying that the u.s. is now engaged in a space race with china and the chinese program is militaristic. and as a point of fact, the military does in fact run the chinese space program, but there is a close alignment between the u.s. military and nasa. after all the two test pilots are both navy veterans. so, but it is heating up a bit. i will say this, space race is are good for finding a space programs. when you hear this. writer, keep that in mind >> that is miles o'brien, our science correspondent. thanks for being with us.
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>> 80 years ago tomorrow, the liberation of europe from the horrors of the nazis began with the allied invasion of normandy. 200,000 soldiers, americans and british and canadians landed on june 6, 1944 across five beaches, utha, omaha, gold, juno and sword. malcolm is in northern france, and met some of the veterans of d-day now all around 100 years old to begin our coverage of this 80th anniversary. [playing taps] >> the bodies in the water. they looked like logs floating in the water. >> sergeant jenner had perhaps the best view flying in a top-secret mission photographing
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the invasion. >> i couldn't believe that all those young guys down in that water gave their lives for their country. and the world to be exact. >> east of omaha, british beaches also have their ghosts. >> one of the great things about the war was the comradeship. you were really comrades with your mates. >> bill wright on the far right and his tank crew came ashore at sword beach. >> we'd known for some time, of course, what was going to happen. and we knew that we were making history. and that was a terrific boost to morale as you can imagine. >> i was just 20 years old.
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at that age, a young man -- young men don't want to miss out on anything. i was so pleased that i was there. >> sub lieutenant john roberts had already seen action escorting convoys across the north atlantic. on d-day, his ship's guns. batteredgerman defenses >> the noise was quite fantastic. there must've been 100 warships bombarding the coast. >> hundreds of planes provided air cover from the seaborne invasion below. >> i flew p-38 lightnings, and we were given the mission to protect all the shipping from england to normandy. there were 5000 boats. and we expected the luftwaffe to really hit them. what an opportunity. but we did not see one. i mean, it was actually a boring
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sort of mission for us. >> jim still possesses a certain all-american swagger that sometimes during the war aggravated the less flamboyant british. >> how old are you? >> 101 shooting for 102 in october. >> what does it mean to you to be back here? >> well, lots of memories. you never forget. >> this paratrooper was among the first interaction, aged 19. >> we took a shell off the corner of our wing and shrapnel came through the plane and killed one man on one side of me and the other side. so, there was a lot of flak, just like the fourth of july. >> how glad were you to get out of the airplane? >> i did not want to be in that play no more. >> the 82nd target, the nazi
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occupied town where john steele is immortalized. after his chute snagged the spire he played dead. >> john was taken prisoner and we freed all of those guys. >> it's a shrine for paratroopers. >> there was a reason why the united states -- they called them the greatest generation. to jump into land under hostile fire and for your weapon into action to fight the ending -- the enemy in a foreign land is something truly remarkable. >> but there was a warning. after a survey revealed that less than half of all young people know what happened on thursday. -- on d-day. >> it is a worry if we have young people not understanding why things happened and the fact that we all live actually pretty
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free lives here, there is a problem history might repeat itself. >> ♪ america, america ♪ >> if anyone symbolizes the purpose of d-day its 86-year-old leon from california back in native france traveling with u.s. veterans. >> i feel like that i owe my life 100 plus percent to america. >> five-year-old leon and his older sister rachel lived in the town with their mother and father in a 1942 their parents were taken away by the nazis. neighbors suzanne and henri stepped into the breach. >> at that time henri said, do not worry, we will take care of your children. until you come back. not knowing that they would be
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gone forever. so that was the -- that was the last time that we would see our parents. >> three months after the landing in normandy. >> our beachhead to berlin was established. >> american troops liberated his town. >> the windows of the street were just covered with flags and people were absolutely -- it was the best day of my life, for sure. >> this anniversary is tinged with mixed emotions. pride, respect, and that often misused word awe that so many veterans have returned to the beaches that were part of what history acknowledges as the longest day. but there is also sadness that in all probability this will be their last big hurrah.
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>> when anybody wants to talk about somebody being a hero, i always tell them, the heroes are still over there. >> naval cadet bridget sheridan pay tribute taking hallowed sand and offering a silent prayer. >> i come from a military family. being here with the veterans and everyone, it is a blessing, an honor. i have no words. >> because their deeds speak for themselves. ♪ from sea to shining sea ♪ ♪ >> a group of current and former
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open a.i. employees issued a public letter warning that the company and its drivers are building artificial intelligence with undue risk and without sufficient oversight. they are calling on artificial intelligence companies to be transparent and provide stronger protections for whistleblowers. it comes after open a.i. disbanded his team focused on long-term a.i. risks and two leaders resign. we are joined by our npr technology correspondent bobby allen. thanks for being with us. tell us more about who is behind this open letter and what they are asking for. >> yeah, it is a number of current and former open a.i. employees, i spoke to one of them just today, and what they are saying is really loud and clear. they think open a.i. is too aggressively in search of profits and market share and that they are not focused on responsibly developing a.i. products.
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remember, this is really important because open a.i. started as a nonprofit research lab that was, its aim when it was founded with the developed product different than meta or microsoft or amazon which are these huge publicly traded companies that are competing with one another. open a.i. was supposed to be a nonprofit answer to big tech. these employees say, it looks like you're operating just like big big tech, pushing out products too quickly and society just is not ready for them. >> the letter lays out a number of risks and warnings including "the loss of control of autonomous a.i. systems resulting in human extinction." what are these folks know that we don't? and how seriously should we take this concern? >> it sounds pretty dire. it goes back to the nerdy phr ase, -pdoom p, meaning the probability and doom means doom.
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and they like bring it up is that the theory is if a.i. become super intelligent, you can exceed the skills and brainpower of humanity, maybe one day it will turn on us. again, this is kind of a theoretical academic exercise at this point. these sort of killer robots would be marching around cities and at war with humanity. i do not think we are anywhere near that, but they are underscoring this because, look, that sort of a hypothetical risk, but we are seeing real risks play at every single day, whether the rise of deep fakes or a.i. being used to impersonate people or a.i. being used to supercharge dangerous misinformation around the web. there are real risks that according to these former employees open a.i. does not care enough about and is not doing much to mitigate. >> in other open a.i. news, the media world seems to be split over whether to partner with the company. the company recently announced paid deals with the associated
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press, the atlantic and vox media that allows them to gain access to media outlets' content to train a.i. meantime, give the new york times suing open a.i. over copyright infringement. how do you see this all shaking out and what are the argument on both sides of this debate over whether to work with open a.i.? >> open a.i. has publishers by the scruff of their neck. open a.i.'s systems were trained on the corpas of the entire internet and that includes every large broadcaster and newspaper you can think of. and as you mentioned, there are two camps emerging. in the one camp is let's play nice with open a.i. because we have no choice. this is the future. open a.i. is going ruthlessly towards this direction. let's try to make some money. and then you have newspapers like the new york times in the other camp and chosen the other direction which is no, no, open a.i. you took all of our
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articles without consent. without payment. and now you're making lots of money off of the knowledge and reporting an original work that goes into a new york times article. we don't want to strike a licensing deal. in fact, your systems are based on material that was stolen from us. so, you owe us a lot of money and we do not want to play nice. the way it's going to shake out to some publishers are striking deals and others will join the new york times crusade to go after open a.i., but it is a really interesting time because no matter what, they have this material, right? chatgpt is spitting out answers based in part on new york times articles, associated press, npr you name it, that is the future,. the question is, do you strike a deal or take them to court? we're seeing different strategies. >> that is npr technology correspondent bobby allen. thanks so much for being with
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us. >> thanks. >> today, a russian court sentenced a russian-american to 3.5 years in prison, charged with rehabilitating nazism. he's part of a worrying trend over the past decade, there have been an historic number of u.s. nationals detained by foreign governments abroad. one of the leading negotiators for detained americans usually works in the shadows has now stepped into the limelight and written a book. nick schifrin has that story. >> n early 60 americans are believed to be held overseas, 90% of them labeled wrongfully detained by the state department. their possible released is handled by countless american government officials but sometimes, when hostage families want another advocate or the relevant government might not be communicating well officially,
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mickey bergman come alongside the late governor bill richardson and their team, answered the call. in north korea, myanmar, moscow, bergman's helped bring americans home including brittney griner. he's written a book "in the shadows, true stories of high-stakes negotiations to free americans captured abroad." he joins me now. thanks very much. welcome to the newshour. you call yourself a french diplomat. how does a -- a fringe diplomat bring americans home? >> fringe diplomas is made of two actions, the first is engagement in the second is intervention. intervention is basically ends up in my world being the release of the political prisoner or hostage. an intervention is great, quick and tangible and sexy and you get a special on tv for it but the real work, you cannot succeed in intervention unless you spend time and invest in engagement. and the way we do it is that we
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-- engage the local community and leadership, ask them what are their priorities and what is their vision for their community? yeah. yes, exactly right. >> want to go through some of your achievements. but i first want to ask you about the possible hostage deal that we are talking about righ tnow. why do you think president biden made details of a possible deal between israel and hamas public. >> i think president biden realized that it was a double talk going on. what the israeli prime ministers telling him privately and what he says publicly. at last -- at least one time we know that causes the deal. if you are negotiator, and you want to succeed, publicly you talk about what is common. netanyahu publicly is talking about what are the gaps. so, that means that he actually
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was trying to derail the process and i think by outing it, president biden is pushing them into a corn, making -- into a corner, and making sure if hamas accepts those terms, it would be up to netanyahu. if you walks back from it, there should be a plan b in which president biden and the administration is saying can we have a humanitarian indirect channel that will address humanitarian aid and will address the release of the american citizens that were kidnapped? >> you've got some history with the israeli government and a former israeli soldier as you point out. in 2006, you conducted some of your first back channel diplomacy, you try to end war between israel and lebanon. and you it started to establish the parameters between -- the release in exchange of more than 1000 palestinian prisoners in 2011.
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do you think there is something unique about israel there was a mismatch. in my work in 2007-2008 taught me a lot about how hamas thinks. hamas does not negotiate the weight israel does. -- the way israel does. for israel it is about the transaction. for hamas it is about the end picture. hamas early on established a certain picture of what it looks like at the end of the deal. when all the israeli hostages are back home. the idea is outside of gaza, and they have their palestinian president is release. israel is looking at it, oh, ok, well, let's see if we apply more pressure and we take more pieces of gaza or we make some conditions harder, we can definitely make the price lower. but ally ou did you added to the list of demands. in order to get to the end picture. >> let's talk about brittney griner. in the months leading up to the hostage deal between brittney
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griner for a convicted arm smuggler -- you describe how you were the first presented the name of a second russian detainee who would would've been swept for paul whelan if you deliver that name to the deputy national security advisor and he says, why you? why did you get the name? i ask you, why do you get that name? >> it is sometimes awkward for people to understand why we were able to get some of these deals to us. and there was a lot of skepticism. when it came to brittney griner, when the russians also gave us two options, one for one and two for two. we told the russians we will not deliver the one-for-one option because we also work on paul whelan and so when i delivered that message to john, in that breakfast, it was a two for two message. unfortunately and i know he tried really hard to get that, just did not work. >> you describe three occasions were paul whelan was left
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behind. why do you think is still behind bars? >> first of all, let me say, the person who is holding him behind bars is the president of russia. i think there were several miscalculations in the united states. there are two cardinal truths, i have been doing this for eight years come about hostages and political prisoners, the first one is deals never get better over time. we always think they might but they never do. and the second rule is that time never plays well for the hostages or the prisoners themselves. and so, when we stepped into this one, before there was trevor reid or brittney griner, there was only paul whelan. we worked with the russians, a little bit of a tit for tat. to have -- him released for medical reasons because of the pandemic, it will be reciprocated. we passed it to the trump white house, there was no interest. and then trevor reed was taken. you know, there was an argument,
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when you make those deals you incentivize the taking of more americans. i argue that what we have seen in russia was exactly the opposite. our refusal to negotiate led to more americans being taken. >> what you say that negotiating hostage swaps means to more hostages being taken? >> i think it is intellectually lazy and morally bankrupt. lazy because there is no data that suggest at all that there is a correlation between how we resolve cases and how many americans are taking after that. the moral bankruptcy part of it is that it is true that we have to do the -- as a country. we have to solve this problem, but doing it on the back of the people who are being held is morally bankrupt because we are strong enough to do what is needed to bring them home. >> at one point, you admit in the book that your work and your schedule " almost destroyed your family." why has this work been worth it? >> my work does not impact millions of people. it doesn't impact hundreds of
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thousands of people but the people that it does impact, when it works, the 10 people around the immediate family that you know and it is funded by the way, i very rarely know the prison. but i know their family. their family becomes part of my family, the same empathy i applied to the captors when i do negotiations, that is my m.o. i apply the same thing with my family, every time i meet with them or on the phone, i take on that pain myself because that is what motivates me. it's very very personal work. >> the book is called "in the shadows, true stories of high-stakes negotiations to free americans captured abroad." thanks very much. >> thank you, nick. >> and we'll be back shortly with an airline attendant's brief but spectacular take on the miracle of flight. >> first, take a moment to hear.
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fromyour local pbs station . a chance to offer your support that helps to keep programs like ours on the air. ♪ >> for those of you staying with us, special correspondent fred -- has the story of an effort in minnesota to remember the holocaust by preserving and honoring the music performed by prisoners in concentration camp orchestras. his encore report as part of our arts and culture series campus. -- canvas. ♪ >> this is a concert about music. and jewish identity. and my own. >> an unlikely theme in the minneapolis lutheran church but coming just days after october
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7, as violence erupted in the middle east, kenneth fried set a timely one. >> this is a particular painful and perilous time for all of us. ♪ >> the works performed by the minnesota-based ensemble range widely, a duet of the peripheral -- prayful and works highlighting jewish experience and musical influence. this string quartet by mendelson with a classic jewish folk song embedded. ♪ then there were was one medle they did not fit in, or did ity? here's how it was introduced. >>this music is utterly shocking
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in its banality. it is charming café music. ♪ >> banal he added until you realize it was arranged by the member of the orchestra at auschwitz, performed by prisoners for the entertainment of nazi ss guards. guards briefly setting aside their loathing of the prisoner musicians. >> i can't imagine, let's put it away for a sunday and we will pretend that we have this relationship that isn't based on ethnic cleansing. ♪ >> to provide more context or respected -- or perspective, it was punctuated by testimonies
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from the diaries of the prisoners. this entry. >> the smoke from the crematorium really annoyed my colleagues. it was polluting the air and hard to see the notes. >> the original manuscripts, the arrangements used by the minnesota ensemble reside in the museum at auschwitz today. but they were first brought out into the world a few years ago here at the university of michigan school of music. >> i personally could not write a manuscript that is as neat as these are. >> patricia hall is a professor of music theory. in 2018, she discovered hundreds of manuscripts at the auschwitz museum, a popular german song of the 1930's and 1940's, arranged by prisoners. >> this prisoner took the time to create this symbol of a bird out of.musical symbols >> in nazi death camps, being
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selected to play music was a preferred assignment, the alternative to labor. still it was a precarious existence. >> there was a statistic guarded the camp who would take prisoners out of the orchestra and take them to block 11 and shoot them. so there is one anecdote of one of the musicians estimating that up to 50 musicians were executed in this way. >> hall selected representative sample of ten. foxtrots, tangos and waltzes to reproduce. trying to stay faithful to how they would have sounded in the camp. ♪ with the university ensemble under conductor santz, the music was performed and recorded in ann arbor. >> i could not believe how
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beautiful they sounded. i was completely surprised. ♪ >> another surprise -- audience reaction. she'd originally planned to archives these recordings in the university's music library. figuring they would be too painful to hear. but hall said there was strong interest and concert including one at new york's museum of jewish heritage. and it piqued the interest like musicians -- the interest of musicians like ken fried. ♪ >> a lot of people, i think, were almost reluctant to appla ud. >> i felt that too until i stood up. i guess we should. what are we clapping for? the church basement post concert he saw how the music had taken
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the audience as he put it to a new dimension. >> i don't -- >> just have chills. playing the music would've been one thing but really -- putting those quotes in, so you really did imagine yourself as in the camp. >> that is kind of the reason i did today's concert. to provide context, to, because you feel music before you start to think about it. ♪ >> has it drawn for this concert from the historical breath of jewish tradition he said, offered as medicine in a world wracked by conflict. for the pbs newshour, in minneapolis. ♪ ♪
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>> derek is an entrepreneur and author and for more than 14 years of flight attendant. many of his passengers know him for his in-flight poems reflecting on his time in the skies. tonight, in an encore broadcast, he shares one of his poems and his brief but spectacular take on the miracle of flight. >> i've been a flight attendant for 14 years. we're all used to the flight attendant, make sure that you have all of your bags underneath the chair in front of you, make sure your seat belt is buckled, make your receipt back is upright, how many times have you heard a poem at 36,000 feet? ♪ today, again, we fly we enoy the energy of the people and report the hustle and bustle and excitement
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moving from city to city among the skies. observing the beauty of nature as we fly people from all around the world sharing unique and interesting conversations as we speak seeing their smiles again without a mask we begin to realize just how much covid-19 has put us all through task today again we fly ready to go we shout as we bring the world together without a doubt up up and away we go. as jet engines begin to repair today again we fly cruising at 36,000 feet in an office with wings as special guests cannot be beat that's right 36,000 feet where the air is thin and only for those who can handle the heat today, again we fly >> i usually say this poem as we
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are making our final descent. >> the enjoyment that i get from the humanity of sharing that poem with everyone is when they break out into a plus, it is just an amazing -- into a pplause. to find the people appreciated that much. if all i do is serve you drink it you had a really good flight because what i'm trained for you do not want to see my name is derek and this is my brief but spectacular take on the miracle flight >> you can watch more brief but spectacular videos online at pbs.org/newshour/brief. ♪ >> join us back here again tomorrow night for a special report from the beaches of normandy where world leaders are converging to mark the 80th
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