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wow, you get to watch all your favorite stuff. it's to die for. now you won't miss a thing. this is the way. xfinity internet. made for streaming. john: good evening. i'm john yang. geoff bennett and amna nawaz are away. on the newshour tonight, protests demanding an end to the war after the bodies of six hostages held by hamas were recovered from gaza. >> we have a prime minister who does not think of the good john: of the country. john:we look at the power union
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workers can wield in the upcoming election. tamera keith and amy walter breakdown of this headlines from the campaign trail. ♪ >> major funding f the pbs news hour has been provided by -- ♪ the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions and friends of the newshour including leonard and norma and the judy and peter blum kovler foundation. >> two retiring executives turn their focus to greyhounds, giving these former rate sounds a real chance to live. a raymond james financial advisor gets to know you, your purpose, and the way you give back. life well planned. >> the hewlett foundation.
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for more than 50 years advancing ideas and supporting institutions to promote a better world. at hewlett.org. and with the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions. this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. john: israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu said today that he would not join in ceasefire talks over his demand that israel remain in control of gaza's border with egypt.
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he spoke after thousands of workers across israel walked off their jobs, following a night of protests over netanyahu's failure to negotiate a deal for the release of those held in gaza. all this after the recovery of the bodies of six hostages. across israel overnight, hundreds of thousands took to the streets in the biggest protesters since the war began almost 11 months ago. in tel aviv, police and protesters clashed. nationwide, some two dozen people were arrested. today, protesters blocked a main road in the city, demanding that benjamin netanyahu reach a deal to return the 100 oso israeli hostages still in gaza. >> we have a criminal government who that's the hostages be murdered only for the sake of the coalition and we have a prime minister who does not think of the good of the country
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but only of his own good. >> a general strike disruptive flights at israel's international airport and some hospitals were only partially operating. in jerusalem, israelis lined the streets with the funeral procession of hirsch goldberg poland, among the six hostages recovered by israeli forces in gaza over the weekend. today, netanyahu said hamas would pay a heavy price for their deaths. at the funeral, rachel mourned her son. >> for 23 years, i was privileged to have the most stunning honor, to be mama. i will take it and say thank you. i just wish it had been for longer. >> at the white house, president biden added to the pressure on netanyahu. >> do you think it is time for prime minister netanyahu to do more on this issue? do you think he is doing enough? >> no. >> in gaza, a polio vaccination
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campaign continued. israel and hamas have agreed upon fighting until tuesday. the goal is to vaccinate more than 600,000 children. >> in these conditions we live in with the disease is spreading among children, vaccination is now very important to protect our children. god willing in these days of war, peace will prevail for everyone. >> in the west bank city of janine -- jenin, an israeli military operation continued. at least 20 palestinians have been killed. at the white house today president biden said the united , states will hold hamas accountable for american israeli hersh goldberg-polin's death, and he met with u.s. team trying to reach an agreement that would free the hostages. yohanan plesner is president of the israel democracy institute and a former aide to both prime ministers ariel sharon and benjamin netanyahu. give us a sense of what the mood
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is like in israel today. you had a to mulch was 36 hours. yohanan: it is a very emotional period, the fact that six of our hostages have been murdered in cold blood in just 24 hours before the idf soldiers have actually reached them, it was received as a major blow for all israelis and the protests that erupted have reflected that. we have to understand, we have to be able to hold two complex thoughts at the same time. on the one hand, we are dealing with a murderous hamas jihadist regime that has wanted and continues to desire to annihilate our state and to execute our hostages, and they have not said yes to any deal, to any mediation, to any of the parameters, so israelis are in this respect united behind the
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more goals of dismantling hamas and bringing back the hostages. at the same time, a growing number of israelis that perhaps a majority of israelis do not trust the way the prime minister is conducting and carrying out this war and operation, and specifically the attempt to bring back the hostages and the protests yesterday are a reflection of this distrust in the way the prime minister is leading the negotiation. john: you worked for mr. netanyahu. what do you think his thinking is right now about this, getting a hostages back? yohanan: the prime minister basically conveyed to the israeli public the message that only increased military pressure would bring back the hostages. now on the one hand, increasing their military pressure puts obviously pressure on hamas and its leadership and produces a
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positive outcome, but it also has costs. it also puts our hostages in danger. what we see now is the fact that our hostages were murdered was to some extent a result to the fact that we put pressure so this formula is not that simple as it sounds, but i think a more complex element is the fact that many israelis think that mr. netanyahu is managing these negotiations in bad faith, that alongside the interest of bringing back the hostages and dismantling hamas, there is also other additional political interests like keeping together the coalition and that it costs the hostages lives in this distrust -- i would say it was augmented by the fact that at least what we heard from what is
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happening within the room, within the discussion, within the discussions is that the leaders of the defense establishment, i think that israel -- there is additional wiggle room for israeli compromises that might bring about a deal and that netanyahu insists on not making those compromises. it is unclear whether there is strictly a security consideration or other more political considerations involved. john: this growing distrust, just at present a challenge or a threat to mr. netanyahu and his government? yohanan: not necessarily because we have seen tonight mr. netanyahu presenting his case and positioning it strictly as a security argument about the merit of holding onto the border between gaza and egypt and as
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long as it is positioned as a security -- argument around security interests, it is a relatively comfortable position for the prime minister. john: the prime minister tonight said that maintaining presence on that border, what they call the philadelphia corridor, is the only way to keep israel safe against weapons being smuggled in from egypt. does this defense establishment agree with him? yohanan: not necessarily. we actually heard the chief of staff of the idf say that israel can also give up on holding onto this corridor temporarily or think of other arrangements. for example, if we get security guarantees from the united states and the egyptians. one has to see it in a broader context. this is the whole issue of risk management. the lives of the hostages.
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there is what is happening in the northern border. there is the interest in building and stabilizing a strong coalition against iran that is trying to dominate the region, to deploy and activate its proxies against israel, against u.s. interests, against the interests of moderate countries in the region so there is a much broader picture than just reducing it down to a dispute around one axis. to reduce the whole debate into what is going to happen in the five kilometer strip is less about security interests and more about talking to one's own political base so again, israel's more goals are just we are fighting against an evil enemy, hamas, that wants to annihilate us, and at the same time, the fact that we have a
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just war does not mean necessarily that the prime minister is executing it in an optimal manner. john: thank you very much. yohanan: thanks for having me. ♪ john: there is other news. in ukraine, residents of kyiv awoke to the aftermath of russian shelling that wounded three people that also cast a shadow on what was supposed to be first day of the school year. this morning, parents took their children to one school only to find buildings destroyed, and classes cancelled. >> we heard strong explosions since the morning. we live not far from here. we hid in the bathroom where it was relatively safe. she is going to the school for
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the first time. it is a new school for her and so we came and saw this. at first, we did not see messages that our studies were being postponed so we came with our neighbors. the children were hoping for a celebration today. john: explosions rocked the region -- russia's belgorod region, just across the border from ukraine. the governor there blamed ukraine for the shelling, which injured one person and damaged several houses. the u.s. government has seized a private plane used by venezuelan leader nicolas maduro. -- the just apartment -- justice department says it was smuggled from florida last year in violation of sanctions and export control laws. in a statement, the department of commerce, which partnered with doj said this sends a message that "aircraft illegally acquired from the united states for the benefit of sanctioned venezuelan officials cannot just fly off into the sunset." the seizure comes just over a month since venezuela's contested presidential election. the u.s. says maduro lost to his opponent, edmundo gonzalez. police in chicago say a shooting
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on a subway train early monday has left four people dead. three people died at the scene at an above-ground-station in the western suburb of forest park. a fourth victim died later at a hospital. officials say a suspect initially fled, but was arrested on a train on a different line and a weapon was recovered. they described it as an isolated incident. an investigation is ongoing. more than hotel workers across 10,000 the country are spending this labor day on strike. -- they are calling for higher pay and more even workloads. hundreds of hospitality workers at a hilton in baltimore were the latest to join the growing walk-out. there are nearly fewer hotel 200,000 workers now than there were before the pandemic. the union wants staffing levels restored, and wages increased. >> we have a lot of people that are just living check to check. we're asking for a $10 raise. and even with that $10 raise that we're asking for in the in the next four years, by inflation numbers, we would
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still be considered poor as a- - as a hotel worker in the next four years. so we're asking for a contract that is a modest contract. john: the union president says they are part of a long-running battle in an industry that is disproportionately made up of women and people of color. representatives say they are open to negotiations. at the paralympic games in paris, team u.s.a's line-up of para-triathletes won a combined eight medals today. among them, veteran hailey danz who struck gold after finishing second in both the rio games in 2016 and tokyo the last time around. on the track, a paralympic debut for ezra frech turned into a golden finish, in his classification of the 100-meter dash. americans also won medals today in swimming, badminton and wheelchair rugby. and, you may not know the name, but you've likely read one of her stories.
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longtime associated press reporter linda deutsch has died. for nearly 50 years, she covered some of the biggest criminal and civil trials in america. she was in the courtroom for proceedings against cult leader charles manson and "unabomber" ted kaczynski , against michael jackson and o.j. simpson. trials, she once said, are human drama. >> oh, you cover all these grisly, horrible things, so don't you feel like a voyeur? do you feel like you are a voyeur when you're watching hamlet or macbeth? it's the same thing. and it's as old as shakespeare and as old as socrates. and it's an extremely powerful theater. john: linda deutsch was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in 2022. she was 80 years old. still to come on the "newshour", our politics monday duo weighs in on the presidential candidates' efforts to woo union workers. and a new book chronicles the precipitous downfall of former lawyer turned convicted murderer
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alex murdaugh. >> this is the pbs news hour from weta studios in washington and in the west from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. john: candidates are heading into the campaign season's closing stretch that traditionally kicks off on labor day. former president donald trump was off the trail today and over the weekend but on the offensive online. he'll speak to the fraternal order of police later this week. meanwhile, labor was the theme for democrats with several events in "blue wall" states. vice president kamala harris and president biden made their first joint campaign appearance since the convention before an organized labor audience in pittsburgh. earlier, harris also made a pitch for unions in detroit. gov. walz: every -- >> everywhere i go, you may not be a union member. you better thank a union member for the five day
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workweek, for sick leave, for paid leave. what we know is when union wages go up, everybody's wages go up. john: the candidates are fighting to win key midwestern states, like michigan. both are determined to get as much of the union vote there as they can. but as our economics correspondent paul solman reports, trump has shown surprising strength among some workers. >> i remember my mom crying for days when john f. kennedy was assassinated. paul: brian pennebaker. years was a democratic family? >> we were always told the democrats are for the little guy, the working man. paul: he is an avid donald trump supporter now, one of many who likes trump's positions on trade, tariffs, and taking on china. >> i put 30 autoworkers into a group called autoworkers for trump on facebook. it grew organically to 3800
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people. >> please welcome the president of the teamsters. paul: it's president actually spoke on day one of the republican national convention although he did not endorse donald trump. >> we all know how washington is run. working people have no chance of winning this fight. that is why i am here today. because i refuse to keep doing the same things my predecessors did. paul: is the union vote swinging republican? brian pennebaker lives just outside true blue detroit and holds his political truths to be self-evident. >> i believe that the republicans now with their lower taxes in support of family values is better for the average working men and women of this country than the democrat.
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paul: at a teamsters local of oil refinery workers near detroit, we heard much of the same. >> will try to elect somebody who will be more pro-oil. drill, baby, drill. >> i am a refinery worker, yes. i am all for keeping my job. i am all for america being self-sufficient on energy. our reserves being topped off to the top, all for as being independent. so yes. >> more important to bill kirkland, cancel culture. >> if you don't agree with me, you are on the other side of the line, we hate your guts. >> the teamsters have always been the more republican leaning union. paul: longtime detroit journalist. >> it goes back to nixon because nixon pardon to jimmy hoffa and the members of the teamsters union remembered that. paul: the teamsters also supported ronald reagan and
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george w. bush and even autoworkers began defecting in the calm county back in 1980, the reagan democrats, as imports undercut the u.s. auto industry. brian lives there and blames democrats for the decline. >> do you remember a presidential candidate named ross perot? he said, if we elect bill clinton at that time and nafta is signed into law, you will hear a giant sucking sound and that will be all of our jobs leaving and going to mexico. well, in essence, that is exactly what did happen. paul: what many bluewater -- blue-collar workers think today. >> there is this idea you could drive a truck and own a home and even own a vacation home and send your kids to college and have two cars and retire comfortably. that today, it doesn't exist in the way that it once did. a lot of people have to work two and even three jobs to attain the level that one parent had
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back in those days. paul: has some uaw parents made it into the middle class, they moved to the suburbs to places like macomb county which became taxcutting republicans. there's plenty of union support for the harrison walz ticket which supports stronger union rights, collective bargaining, and tougher enforcement of it. walter robinson said his coworkers were happy that harris and tim walz barrett -- visited his local. >> we stand for the people and we stand for the dignity of work. paul: do you think more people will show up and vote now because of her? >> i think so. paul: walter robinson junior works as a quality control inspector at the ford plant across the street. >> i believe you will get other people that might have been on the fence because they were concerned about whether president biden couldn't take another four years and they think they will say, well, this is a younger candidate so let's
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go. paul: plenty of teamsters support the democrats, too. >> i would never vote for a republican. >> in fact, even this group of refinery workers whose jobs penned on fossil fuels was split right down the middle. most unions support them wholeheartedly. mike the service employees international, 2 million members. the national education association, 3 million, the afl-cio itself, $12.5 million. and at the democratic convention, uaw president sean fain made his support crystal clear. >> in 2024, who will stand with the working class in our fight for justice? kamala harris. paul: what percentage of the uaw's 400,000 or so members favor donald trump? >> to 70%. that is conservative. >> his gas, more like 40%.
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nikki maynard? >> i would come down somewhere in the middle. final question about the weeks remaining until the election. correct anybody think they are going to change their mind? >> no. >> not with this group of people. that's what do you mean? >> we know what we want. >> i put it this way to walter robinson. is there anything that kamala harris can do that would change the minds of some of the people on the line? >> she would have to pull out a magic wand or something but then they would call her a witch. >> robinson laughed may be nervously. >> that is the thing i have to worry about, doing all these interviews, is that they will find out where i live and they will be on my front lawn messing with me. >> because as you may have noticed, these days, tribalism runs pretty deep in america. for the pbs news hour, paul solman in and around detroit.
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john: for more on both presidential campaigns' efforts to appeal to working class voters, we're joined by our politics monday duo. that is amy walter of the cook political report with amy walter and tamara keith of npr. we just heard the endorsements from a union don't necessarily mean the union members are going to go that way. but how is the harris campaign trying to turn all those endorsements into votes? tamara: it's pretty simple. those endorsements come with what we would call a ground game. that is union members out knocking on doors, campaigning with their family members, campaigning with their neighbors . for instance, the afl-cio endorsed by back then extremely early, very early. and when i talked to them about why they did that, they said, because that opens the floodgates to be able to begin doing that doorknocking and other on the ground campaign work. it really just, for democrats,
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magnifies their already existing infrastructure to try to reach voters where they are because the feeling about this election is he will be very close. it will be decided in key states where there are a lot of union members, and yes, the union members, the rank and file are split. in terms of who is knocking on doors, they are knocking on doors for democrats. john: we heard trump has a lot of support among union members. how is he making those inroads? tamara: in a lot of ways, it is cultural. he is appealing to those voters. he appeals to a lot of working-class voters. he is appealing to them in the same way that he is appealing to a lot of voters across a swath of the country. what he is doing is saying that he is for the workers. he is trying to drive a wedge between the workers and their union in many cases, particularly the autoworkers. i'm not sure how well that is actually working.
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certainly, the union leadership will point out that when he was president, he appointed members of the national labor relations board that were not prounion at all, but he is sort of trying to say he is pro-worker. and it works with some voters certainly. john: they chose -- the democrats chose to have the union events in pennsylvania and michigan. amy: what a coincidence. i have no idea why they would use those two states and that harris was with the president in pittsburgh, a state where, obviously, he is from, the president, from scranton, from the other part of the state, hoping that there is may be an ability for biden to convey some of that goodwill among those types of voters. i think both in set up piece here and that point about cultural, when we talk about labor unions, as a whole, it is about 18% of the national
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electorate so it is not a huge percentage of the electorate. people who say i am in a working -- i am in a labor household. when you talk about people who feel like they are defined by, not necessarily that they belong to a union, but consider themselves to be working class, and this is where trump has done a good job of getting beyond just the cultural attachment but he is talking to them about workers, particularly putting workers first, specifically in a place like michigan. hey, you know the electric battery mandates an electric car mandates question mike we don't like them, you don't like them, going to get rid of them. we are going to put tariffs on cars coming from overseas. that is going to help your job. we are not going to let the country get flooded with those foreign cars anymore and we were at the rnc and the head of the teamsters was speaking -- this is not something we thought we would ever see at republican
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convention. he did not endorse, but just having the head of the teamsters speaking at a republican convention is sending a message beyond just labor, people who are part of the labor union, but to those people who identify themselves as part of the forgotten working class motor. john: last week, the unpredictable donald trump surprise a lot of folks by saying in vitro fertilization should be free, either the insurance companies should pay for it or the government should pay for it. that sent a lot of republicans scrambling to deal with this issue. we have two republican senators who each came down on the opposite sides of this issue over the weekend. >> i think we have to evaluate the fiscal impact, whether the taxpayer can afford to pay for this, what impact it would have on premiums, but in principle, supporting couples who are
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trying to use ivf or other fertility treatments i don't think is something that is controversial at all. >> he is trying to show his support for ivf treatments. we have been accused of being against birth control. >> but you would not support this idea of mandating insurance companies to cover this, would you? >> there is no end to that. john: the democrats are clearly making reproductive rights and issue in this campaign. have the republicans figured out how to deal with it, how to react to it? amy: it is not an issue they had expected they would have to deal with in 2022 and there was no easy answer for it in 2024. the difference between somebody like lindsey graham who was trying to fit this conversation about ivf and abortion into the traditional republican box is -- that is not where donald trump is. there is not a fizzle -- philosophical, ideological issue that trump is grappling with.
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what he sees is i am not doing very well with women. how can i get women voters back? and so you saw him the other day try to get a little bit further away from republicans on the issue of abortion. specifically the six-week abortion ban in florida and then he sort of had to backtrack a little bit on that because that made pro-life voters and supporters very upset. ivf, here is another way he sees this as an opportunity to win over voters he needs to win over. it is not a change in philosophy or ideology. that is where the party gets itself sort of caught up in this issue because they are trying to fit it into something that is bigger than just one election. that is not where donald trump is. geoff: john: -- john: tomorrow, the democrats are kicking off the reproductive freedom bus tour and they are doing it in trump's backyard in palm beach, florida. has the harris campaign reacted
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to donald trump's comments on ivf? >> they have and they essentially said, why would you believe him now? because he has changed his position on reproductive rights, on ivf, on any number of things repeatedly, though he has been very clear that he -- they will point this out repeatedly -- trump has been pretty clear that he is responsible for roe being overturned because he created the conservative super majority and he points that out whenever he is in front of a conservative group or a religious right group. so he wants that. he wants credit but he doesn't want too much credit and he doesn't want the political problem that doing away with roe has created. even with ivf, when alabama -- when an alabama court put ivf on hold, it was because of the supreme court decision overturning roe. this is a problem of his creation.
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the dog caught the car. this is the political challenge that he is trying to sort through and he is doing it in a very trumpy way. he just says, i believe this, i believe that. somebody said i should not say that i would possibly maybe support that florida ballot measure so i'm going to vote against it. he had multiple positions last week and i think we can see more of that to come. john: it has been a week since he made his controversial visit to arlington national cemetery and we are still talking about it. vice president harris was silent and then finally issued -- put up on social this past weekend, let me be clear. the former president disrespected sacred ground all for the sake of a political stand. this man who is unable -- this is a man who is unable to comprehend anything other than service to hidden self. the trump campaign manager by putting out statements from costar families. this sort of feeds in, doesn't
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it, to the democrats lying about donald trump? tamara: this was an event that has been snowballed. it started out with trump being invited by these families but then there was video and photos. someone on his staff pushed back someone who worked at the cemetery who said the rules say you cannot film in section 60. they did. they put out a video. he did not apologize. now, we are multiple days into this cycle of trump controversy which has muddied the water and he's making it about harris when in the start, it was him who did not apologize. geoff: -- john: we are out of time. amy and tam, thank you very much. amy: thanks, john. ♪ john: a new chapter is unfolding
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in a story of power, privilege, and violence can last year, alec murdoch was convicted of murdering his wife and son in south carolina. the case gripped many across the country and now the state supreme court is agreeing to hear his appeal. a new book chronicles not just the story of the murders and trial, but a family that for a century has used violence to gain power. lisa desjardins has more, beginning with a reminder of murdaugh's tangled history. >> did you kill your wife and son? lisa: in a small courthouse with millions of people watching, last month, a jury convicted alec murdoch of the unthinkable, shooting and killing his wife and younger son, paul. prosecutors say it was a desperate attempt by him to distract as years of stealing millions from his clients was coming to light. the prosecutor. >> it doesn't matter who your family is. it doesn't matter how much money you have or you think you have. it doesn't matter what you
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think, how prominent you are. if you do wrong, if you break the law, if you murder, then justice will be done in south carolina. lisa: the trial raised the specter of other debts around him and his immediate family. the fatal head injury is committed to a fall of their housekeeper five years earlier, the death of 19-year-old mallory beach after witnesses say paul murdoch drunkenly crashed his boat, and the death of a teenage classmate of murdoch's older son , ruled a hit and run but which police later investigated as a homicide. they publicly deny response ability for any of that. on the stand in his wife and son's murder case, he had to admit he like to police after cellphone video proved he was at the scene of the crime minutes before the deaths. in a separate case, murdoch admitted guilt to financial crimes, stealing life-changing legal settlement money from impoverished clients.
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he blamed drug addiction pair the isolated estate has been sold but what happened there is still making headlines. a new book chronicles this saga and goes further, looking back at not just alec murdoch but 100 years of eye-popping privilege and violence connected with his father, grandfather, and great-grandfather. the book is the devil at his elbow, alec murdoch and the fall of the southern dynasty, by valerie who joins me now. congratulations. you are an instant bestseller. there are a lot of true crime stories these days. what about this one made you want to write a book? valerie: i was captivated by the same thing the country was captivated via, right? this story had everything. it had all seven of the deadly sins. i went and looked them up. i was like, yup, it does. it had mystery, who killed maggie and paul? once we found out that alec was charged, why? how could a man killed his wife and son? i grew up in the south.
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i have covered the south my entire career. it is the only place in the country that just evokes an image in your mind and once i started union on the history, i was like, you can tell the story of the ruble self -- rural south in addition to everything it shows about american life and american tragedy. lisa: i want to have you read a passage about alec murdoch in chapter four. valerie: he was a kind of guy who could in the course of the day score some pills, cheat on his long-suffering wife, fix three different court cases in three different counties, head to the little league field to catch one of his son's teams and then host the after party for players families. lisa: he spent years committing massive fraud and he lied to the police on the night of his wife and son's murders yet he took the defense stand. in the end, how did you come to understand this man and is he someone who understands the truth himself?
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valerie: hevalerie: gave us two days of who he was when he took the stand in his homicide case but he also talked an additional five minutes on interrupted back in november. he was finally sentenced for stealing millions of dollars. you know, i watched him. i can remember putting my pencil down and leaning forward and being like, he doesn't know himself. he is a walking mirage and nobody really knew him. lisa: do you think he is someone who believes he is above the lock? valerie: there is no question in --above the law? valerie: there is no question in my mind. the story of the book is really the story of five generations. they realized that to be above the law, you had to become the law and they were the law. his father, grandfather, great-grandfather all held the office of solicitor which is district attorney but it is so much more than that in a rural area. they were the lead law man for five-county area for a century and in a place where there would be may a a sheriff, and a tailor. that was it. they were the finder of fact, the detectives, the law. lisa: that is incredible power
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appeared his great-grandfather, through your incredible research over years, great-grandfather committed suicide in an insurance fraud scheme that led to the family's wealth. his grandfather ran a bootlegging operation and got away with it it looks like with jury tampering while he was a prosecutor, by the way. his own father, there is evidence he covered up a violent boat crash. i want to ask you of this book, what did you learn about this family, of power, and deceit, how they tell lies and get away with it? valerie: what i learned about the family is that they perfected the art of making a lie look like to shoot in for a long time, that was easy enough to do when you are the law. there is no electronic records, there were not cameras following us at all times and if you say that never happened or in the case of his grandfather, who was accused of running the largest banking ring in the south by the doj, the department of justice, he was like, i never took a cash
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bribe out in the hallway of the cap courthouse. -- of the courthouse. they just had mastered the art of making problems go away and they could because of generational privilege. lisa: and generational wealth that they passed on. valerie: it was a dynasty forged in fraud. the evidence completely supports that. lisa: what do you think this tells us about this particular place in the south? valerie: it really is so isolated and so poor. the median family income is half the national average. there is no net migration. nobody moves in, nobody moves out. it's been 20,000 people for 100 years so it really has been immune to change partly because of the iron fist of this family. one of the perverse legacies of them was they were the solicitor's but they also ran this very powerful civil law for men because they knew everybody, guess what? the jury awards in civil cases were enormous and that had the perverse impact of scaring businesses away. all that is to say the economy
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is not vibrant at all. there are many people i have come to really care about in hampton and they have been left with a hard situation as a result. lisa: this story is something a lot of people paid attention to for the details. you spent time talking with their victims. some of the poorest of the poor who he stole from. what is the takeaway for them? valerie: thank you for saying that. i really did try to let you know a lot more about the poorest and most vulnerable people he stole from. motherless girls, a quadriplegic deaf teenager. he stole their future, their money, he stole their chance at a life and what i wanted to show is there is a kind of moral and emotional violence that type of crime and i think over the course of years, that violence injured him -- -- it was not as far a leap to kill his wife and son to cover up, as the evidence shows, to cover up as many years. >> it comes back to that circle of power and deceit.
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he is trying to appeal still. do you think this case will ever end? valerie: we have a first ending. and jury of his peers in the place where he grew up found him guilty of killing his wife and son and then later, he pled guilty in state court to all the thefts so essentially, he pled guilty to the motive, he pled guilty to the predicate crimes that the state said drove him to kill them. no matter what happens in the future, we have an ending and we also know that he will spend the rest of his life in prison. lisa: no one knows this case better than valerie. thank you. valerie: thank you so much for having me. ♪ ♪ john: we will be back in a bit with a look at how democratic vice presidential nominee tim walz has become a focal point at the minnesota state fair. but first, take a moment to hear from your local pbs station. it's a chance to offer your support, which helps keep
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programs like ours on the air. ♪ for those stations staying with us, we return to a cooking icon. madhur jaffrey first made indian cuisine accessible to the west decades ago with her milestone cookbook, "an invitation to indian cooking." in this encore presentation, she spoke with amna nawaz from her home in new york, as part of our arts and culture series, canvas. amna: in the crowded cosmopolitan world of cuisine she has single name status. but for famed indian chef -- the path to numerous best-selling cookbooks, multiple awards, and the highest civilian honors in both india and the united kingdom wasn't planned.
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madhur: i think of it as a huge, wonderful accident. and i have enjoyed myself hugely while it happened. amna: growing up in north india, madhur jaffrey did not spend much time in the kitchen. madhur: i did everything the boys did. i played with them. i played cricket, went fishing, went swimming in the river behind our house. amna: she left home in delhi for london's royal academy in 1958 at the age of 19. far from home, what she missed most was her mother's cooking. madhur: used to go up five floors of steps to the canteen and then we would get this, you know, great slice of roast beef that you could hardly look at. i would think, oh my god, the food at home is so good. why am i eating this? so what i did was rather than just give up and eat that rubbish food, he wrote to my
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mother and i said, look, i don't know how to cook but can you teach me? can you send me letters with recipes? amna: her mother obliged and the cooking classes began. madhur: she did not write very long, elaborate recipes she wrote three line recipes. take this, take that, stir that around, let it cook until it is done. amna: there no measurements or anything in the recipes? madhur: no real measurement spirit a little bit of this and a little bit of that. what was the wonderful thing that i realized much later was that i had a memory of the taste of everything i have eaten. amna: as she pursued a performing career, years later, strangers would ask again and again where could they find good indian food? amna: so i started writing -- madhur: so i started writing recipes and giving them out to people and it just sort of mushroomed and grew. amna: in april of 1973, it
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bloomed into her seminal cookbooks, an invitation to indian cooking, reissued 50 years later, a collection of the recipes for the food that defined her youth and kept her connected to home. it wasn't the first indian cook oak on the market in america what it was the one that caught on. her straightforward, simple style adapted from her mother's letters offered unfamiliar western chefs, newly intrigued by indian cuisine, an easy entry. the book made madhur jaffrey a household name in america and the u.k. a cooking show on the bbc followed in 1980 two, combining her love of food and performing. madhur: you can really put in as much as you like. amna: she recalled auditioning in a studio with no kitchen, no utensils, no food. madhur: i am grating it right into the yogurt. and mix it in. i clean off the edges and put a
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little ground cumin on top. ground kashmiri powder on top so it will look very pretty, and there it is. there is your yogurt. so i did it that way, and i got the job. amna: she produced best-selling cookbook after cookbook over the years, welcoming home cooks more deeply into the food she loved. madhur: chickpeas. amna: to a generation of south asians inspired to build new lives abroad in the 1960's and 1970's, the book offered more than just recipes. it offered a connection to the home left behind including from my own mother. >> i wanted to share something with you if you don't mind. my mother's copy of an invitation to indian cooking. madhur: my goodness. amna: it has been used and reused so lovingly for so many years. it is kept in a bag because the cover fell off. madhur: oh my goodness, that is the best.
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>> this is a well-worn, truly, truly loved book, so my father said, you can't use this one anymore. he got her another copy. >> do you know how to peel ginger? it is always good just to scrape it like that. >> i keep telling people, when they are cooking, where is the emotional aspect of it? indians and pakistanis and bangladeshis, there a lot of emotion tied to our food and it has to do with brothers, sisters, ancestors, cousins, eating together, going on picnics together, all those memories. they are tied into every little bit of food. >> look at that. see? >> it is so delicious. >> it is coming. see? madhur: my parents use to cook from your cookbook. and now, we are cooking from that.
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there have been three generations like that who actually cooked from the book already and passed it on to their children. it is very gratifying. it is very nice to know that several generations within the same family have been cooking my recipes in america. >> cheers. amna: those families now await her next book, the details of which she is holding close for the moment. madhur: i won't tell you too much about it but it is great fun for me. amna: is it another cookbook or not? madhur: it is, it is, but it is a kind of fun cookbook. for me, that includes aspects of me that you don't know. you will find out. amna: now, i am intrigued. madhur: that is what i meant to do and i will leave it at that. amna: the happy accident that inspired this journey is still propelling the now 90-year-old down new paths ahead.
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♪ john: the minnesota state fair draws more daily visitors than any other state fair in the nation. over the years, there has developed a long tradition of politics being on display. it's where teddy roosevelt uttered the famous phrase "speak softly and carry a big stick." this year, politics has again taken center stage. minnesota governor tim walz took time off the vice presidential campaign trail yesterday to visit. and as twin cities pbs reporter mary lahammer reports, he has been top of mind for fairgoers. mary: the buzz at the booth were democrats gather is decidedly different this year. cooks the orange. i want to degree in but i will just wait until i get that one, too. >> why do you like it? >> it is the anti- maga hat. >> seeing a local elevated to a national ticket has changed
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things for folks in the democratic labor party. it is the state affiliate of the national democratic party. >> we are super excited about the ticket and we got to stop by and show our support and make sure the right people get elected. >> with tim walz, i'm sad because we will lose him but he is the kind of guy that you just want to endorse and be behind because he is a father figure. he is a teacher. >> here at the booth at the minnesota state fair, they sold more merchandise in the first few days and they have ever done to or in an entire run of the fair. >> people are excited and people are excited. yes, democrats are excited but we actually -- i have been here a number of times. we had republicans, independents, people that don't want to go back. mary: senator klobuchar says it was surreal to stand backstage with oprah, john legend, and a football team before introducing him at the convention. >> in minnesota, we love a dad
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implied. >> how many times have you been asked what is tim walz really like? >> a few times. one of the funnier things about our modern politics is i think all these people across the country now seem to know him personally. they think he is like their favorite uncle or something. mary: the republican party booth also has numerous poking fun at vice president harris and the never walz booth has updated images for the vp run, mocking his menstrual products and school bathrooms along with spinning a wheel full of issues from action for liberty. correct stolen valor. claims he went to battle and never did. mary: one gop state rep spends his time at the nonpartisan house booth. >> you get the buzz and the energy that is around. how do republicans counter that energy around him and that ticket now? >> i think that story is going to unfold. i believe the government has not really been held to account for
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a lot of the decisions he has made. the governor is really good at communicating with people. i don't agree with a lot of the policies that have come out of that and i don't think that he has really been all that honest with his belief system. mary: the republican worked on the campaigns of walz's last two challenges for governor and says he barely recognizes the kind of energy the vice presidential candidate has been mustering in front of enormous crowds on a national stage. >> i have seen him change his demeanor significantly over the last four weeks. >> as a person who represents some rural areas, how do you feel about him and his outreach in rule minnesota and the country? >> i think he has a lot of work to do on being a little bit more authentic. putting an orange vest on and camel hat on and talking about it is one thing, but you know, when the policies are hurting hunters, fishermen -- >> do republicans have a lot of work to do to successfully counter what has become a sensation and the memes and his
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communications? >> absolutely. we need to talk more about what we believe in as republicans and what does it mean to be a republican in minnesota? is it an trump is very popular in greater minnesota. president trump is not all that popular in the metro. we have to find that space as well and that grace. >> the minnesota state fair ends today, giving people one last night to pick up campaign merchandise as a campaign enters the final stretch. for the pbs news hour, i am in st. paul, minnesota. john: and that is the news hour for this monday. i'm john yang. for all of us here at the pbs newshour, thanks for joining us and happy labor day. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy.] >> major funding for the pbs news hour has been provided by -- >> on an american cruise lines journey, travelers experience to
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