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>> human life was never a priority and we lost loved oe through greed, incompetence and negligence. >> officials here in london say they'll go through the report line by line and look at the evidence they have already gathered♪ christian: 72 lives lost at grenfell, all avoidable. we'll get to what the inquiry found in the six-year investigation. also tonight, a rare chance for foreign journalists to question israel's prime minister. news of that unusual press conference with benjamin netanyahu and what it says about the pressure he's under and to the cabinet reshuffle in
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ukraine. president zelensky today inviting the resignation of some of itself most prominent ministers . welcome to the program. the flames were so fierce it took the firefighters two days to put them out. 72 people tied in the grenfell fire. more than 70 others were injured. today the families finally got their answers about what went wrong. the simple truth is that all the deaths were avoidable. those who died were failed at almost every level by successive government,ity manufacturing and by the companies that are supposed to you're see the venture and at the heart of it is dishonesty and greed.
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some viewers may find in report distressing. >> there have been seven years of mournings over grenfell with no differentive answers to the question why did this happen. today was different. but this is how it all began. a fridge caught fire. the owner called 911 then got out then turned on his camera. 31 minutes later flames reached the roof and then unstoppable. buildings are designed to prevent fires spreading. his these pictures show, this one totally failed. nick burton was among the few rescued, guided to safety. >> i don't remember coming out into the light. i don't remember being handed over. i don't remember when i took my first real breath. i knew i was going to die and melt at some stage in the tower. >> they call that the grenfell
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koch but he lost his wife pillar after the fire. she was the last of its 72 victims and this was the final conclusion of the chairman of the seven-year public inquiry. >> the simple truth is that the deaths that occurred were all avoidable and those who lived in the tower were badly failed over a number of years and in a number of different ways by those who were responsible for ensuring the state of the building and its out. >> the largest group representing victims of the fire have always said exactly that. >> human life was never a priority and we lost friends, neighborhooded and loved ones in the most horrific way through greed, corruption, incompetence and negligence. >> if you're looking for the one person or company that mike to blame for the deaths of 72 at
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grenfell you won't find it in this massive seven-volume report because this was a failure of a system at all levels across the board and governments, lib our and conservative. >> six died at lackenal house in south london london but no regulations were changed about building materials. in the run-up to grenfehl the incurey says martz of safety were ignored, delayed or discarded. in 2016, the outside of the building was redone to make it look good. but sheets of alum up in shaped into square boxes. it knew the box shape was extremely dangerous according to
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the inquiry. it had found that boxes collected moton plastic. yet this was deliberately concealed from the construction market and iconic must take responsibility for the use of cladding at grenfell. a herself of contractors were involved in the work. including a cladding installer and a project manager. er in incompetent and passed the buck when it came too safety. the prime minister visited grenfell two weeks ago without any publicity leaving a wreath. today he said it was imperative there was a swift police investigation. >> this government will write to all companies found by the inquiry to have been part of these failings as the first step to stopping the big government awarded contracts and we will support police and prosecutors
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as they complete their investigations. >> but this won who lost her mother, wanted the police investigation to take priority. >> it h certainly delayed justice for us. it's meant that criminal prosecutions could have happened and all those people that should be facing criminal prosecutions have had to platform trial their story. >> no charges will be expected until the end of 2026 at the earliest. nearly 10 years after grenfell. christian: as you heard, the victims have demanded that criminal charges be brought but they may have to wait at least a year. we've been speaking to one man who survived the fire but lost his 23-year-old brother muhammad. the two fled the war in syria and were living on the 14th
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floor of the tower block. >> i have a boy and a girl. i call the boy muhammad after my brother muhammad. i always wanted to call my son muhammad because my brother had a really, really nice personality. muhammad was my best friend. not just my brother. he's just like one year younger than me. the situation in syria was really bad so we came to the u.k. around 2014. we found this like nice apartment in grenfe will, l tower. >> can you take us back to the day what you were doing before the fire started? >> we were invited for -- at one of our friend's home and then like just some of us decided to go outside for desserts but me and my brother were set to go back to the tower so we could sleep because we had to work the
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next day and i started to hear some noise around me. shouting and screaming. police cars, ambulance, firefighters, we did open our door and we were shocked by the amount of smoke. we rushed out saying please help, help, we are here. we need to leave now. i don't understand why we couldn't leave. the last thing i remember is i was in the corridor area then i remember someone pulled me from my like t-shirt from my neck. someone was giving me to a firefighter then another firefighter. i think the was a line of firefighters. i did not think that my brother was not with me. >> when did you realize that your brother had been left behind? >> i looked behind me and i couldn't see my brother. i was speaking to him on the phone and he told me that i'm going to die here. i was like, no, you're not going
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to die, you're going to make it. he was like, no. my brother is dead in front of me and i could see him waving from the window and i remember being taken to the hospital by the ambulance. they came to me, they told me your brother passed away. i think that was the hardest moment in my life to hear this. >> how have you tried to heal from this? >> i just knew that my life is completely different. and i'm not going to be the same person anymore and i knew that and i'm completely destroyed. this man will never be just forgotten. christian: there is plenty more on that report published today on our website and plenty more on the reaction. of course, tonight we will talk about where we go next with the
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christian: welcome back. this weekend israeli soldiers in gaza discovered the bodies of six hostages execud by happenas. the response since has been an outpouring of protests with thousands of israelis flooding the streets demanding a cease-fire that would bring the hostages back and end the war. it's a position the majority of israelis anyhow support but standing in their way is their own prime minister. benjamin netanyahu is stalling on the negotiations, insistent that any post war agreement vols israeli soldiers maintaining a presence between gaza and the sinai desert. >> that corridor became completely porous. the other borders? controlledded by us but once this was perforated, even know
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the policy of egypt was to prevent it, it didn't it didn't succeeds and once we left our sidef the philadelphia corridor rockets went in, missiles went in. drones went in. ammo went in. weapons manufacturing equipment came in, tunnel drling equipment came in. once we got out, once we left the philadelphia corridor, iran could carry out its plan to turn gaza into a base, a terrorist enclave. christian: with me in the studio our chief correspondent. he rarely gives press conferences like this and in english with props and graphics. why did he do it today? >> he often uses props. maps are his favorite thing. this is classic netanyahu but what was very interesting, first of all, he wanted to send a
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message to the hostage families. the first two questions from the foreign media were question that the journalists had been asked to ask on the behalf of hostages so therime minister was asked to confront hostage families saying my loved one is going to die because you are insting on this philadelphia corridor so of course he had to show contrition. also, many people are asking why are you so focused on this little bit of land? almost all of the questions asked him. we went he went back to 2005, the israeli december engagements saying i've always said it. he doubled down saying he cannot see a solution to israel's security problems with gaza until hamas has controlled. that little strip of land just eight miles long. he said it has to be controlled but he opened the door a little
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crack. he said show me how it can be done without israeli forces. i don't believe it can be done, he said but show me. earlier in the day, ron durmer, very close to netanyahu indicated in an interview that if a practical solution was found for the corridor, it couldn't be ruled out. prime minister netanyahu insisted it was hamas who was stopping the deal but this is the first time he's even shown any kind of readiness to consider something aside from israeli troops. what it is, he said he has to be on the ground. ies:christian: that puts it back in joe biden's court. if it could be done, could it involve maybe a third party?
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other troops besides the egyptianings on that border? >> qatar has come out critically accusing him of lying, misrepresenting negotiations because prime minister netanyahu september kept saying i accepted, i accepted. it's hamas who is holding it up and qatar hit back and said stop misrepresenting the talks but arab states don't wants to be seen as coming in on the back of an israeli occupation. they would want to know that israeli forces left completely and were not going to come back in. i think they would be reluctant to do it but if the is the only way -- there have been even members of prime minister netanyahu's military team have reported that it could be done with sensors. you don't have to be putting troops on the ground. but prime minister netanyahu
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apparently had refused that. he said it again today. he wants to know every day on ground, not just a sensor, not something remote. so it's a very tough set of rules but there may be something in that. christian: a lot of the networks carried him speaking to the press alongside live pictures from tel-aviv with thousands of people out on the streets. >> the families of the hostages, the hostages who are still in gaza and may or may not be alive are now at a feverish pitch but knowing that if prime minister netanyahu and hamas -- let's be clear, there are two sides in this. both of them have their red lines. do not agree to a deal they have used the compression that it will seal the fate of our loved ones. the only way they will come
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home, in coffins. the prime minister said people say if i don't agree to the deal i will kill it and he said i say if we agree to a bad deal, it will kill us. christian: can we show the map he stood in front of? it's quite revealing. where's the west bank? >> he was asked about that. others say where's the lebanon border, which is the second front. he said that this press conference today was not about the west bank and that would have been a whole set of very, very tough questions. christian: the fact it's missing with the map in mind of what's gong on with the incursions yesterday -- >> yet. the press conference wasn't that long and i think the journalists musk told this is about the talks and is the talks are really crucial and the hostage families are really speaking more louy, angrily and
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passionately than before. they were joined by the biggest trade union this week. the protestare bigger than ever. so the prime minister promised to hold another press conference on the west bank. although he calls it jue da daya-samarra. christian: russia launched a new round of air sikes on ukraine. lviv is just 70 kilometers in the borders with the european union. this was the seven time in eight day that is nato forces have been activated since russia picked up its action on ukraine. more than 50 structures from schools to homes, clinics, moshes in the heart of the city, have been damaged. among the victims were three children. in response a number of recent
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setbacks, the ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky is replacing his foreign affairs minister and other senior officials. also gone, the minister for strategic industries who's in charge of weapon production. ukraine's deputy prime minister for european-atlantic integration at resigned anded departmentity minister who was in charge of temporary occupation for ukraine. all of them gone. so let'sring in peter, the director of the eurasian democracy initiative. i say gone. do you suspect that some of them will come back? >> yes, there is a significant element of fatigue.
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imagine being foreign minister of a country at waror over two years so i would not rule out the simple human factor here. having said that, it's undeniable that there's been some tension on the part of some ministers, i apparently with the minister kuleba with the administration and some individuals within the administration who are only answerable 209 president, including his chief of staff. once again, zelensky's official line is that it will inject fresh, new blood io the ukrainian politics but at the same time i think is this is his reaction to general unhappiness about a whole variety of things, including the ukrainian economy, which is facing a node of crisis, actually. and so i think this is also a way for zelensky to respond to allegations that there's still
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rampant corruption in some of these agent signatures and so by doing this, he is sending a signal that ukraine is serious about housecleaning. whether that will actually make a big difference, that remains to be seen. there are concerns in somee? quarters that he's reshuffling to further consolidate his power. >> that's also true and that is a significant concern. we're not there yet. we're knot anywhere near resembng our enemy, the autocratic regime of vladimir putin but keep in mind that zelensky's official term has already run out and even though ukraine's constitution does not allow for presidential election during wartime, still, with every passing day that this war continues, questions arise about zelensky's legitimacy and obviously russia is capitalizing
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on this and trying to inject this idea of zelensky's illegitimacy into public discourse. at the very least, i think the country's opposition probably expects some more accoun accountability, some more responsiveness to the government to some ofhe opposition's concerns and there are many. including, one once again, significant instances and allegations of corruption that have been voiced. christian: yeah, it is about keeping up appearances, isn't it? within the international community and communication. as you say, nor is a crucial few months coming up. we've seen some big bombardment in the last week. do you think he's trying to find people who might be able to win the argument overseas? >> yes, and clearly the folks that he's had to rely on in the
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past, with the possible exception of mr. kuleba have probably not necessarily been up to the task. having said this, i think, apart from the military situation and a very difficult situation in the east of ukraine. there are economic issues, there's the issue of trust. that still remains there so there's a lot of issues on the table and vladimir putin is sending signals that whether my nook or by crook, he is going to try to bring ukraine to itself knees. his strikes have deepened, all the way into the western town of lviv, which is to show that no area of ukraine is secure. putin knows he has a very hard time of trying to destroy western ukraine so he is
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focusing on its economy. christian: but he hasn't been able to fully rely on them because the delivery of the air defenses has been slow. there's the continuing disagreements over long-range missiles. an interesting development today that there's this new home developed missile called drone that the uaines have developed which they've started to deploy which i think demonstrates e inning newty that is -- ingenuity there in ukraine. i guess it all demonstrates that they're not prepared to negotiate on russia's terms, correct? >> because russia's terms remain pretty nonnegotiable. putin, whatever he says about peace talks is really just hogwash. meant to reassure his allies
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that russia is the party of peace but putin's calculation hasn't changed and institute for the study of war camep with an analysis that says putin believes he can really bring ukraine to their knees with this slow sort of attacks and the slow rolling over of its -- and he believes that time is on his side. announcer: funding for presentation of this program is provided by... financial rvices firm, raymond james. announcer: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. anby judy and peter blum kovler foundation, pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ announcer: "usa today" calls it, "arguably the best bargain in streaming." that's because the free pbs app
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