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♪ proud to be an american where at least i know i'm free ♪ >> dog from wins the presidential election declaring that a second term will bring in a new prosperity for america. crushing defeat for kamala harris and democrats. she is due to speak in washington shortly. these are live pictures. she called donald trump a short while ago to congratulate him on his election win. >> we will consider what happens next and assess how president donald trump may govern. also on the program, as kamala harris is due to give a concession speech in an hour, we speak to her uncle. ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy congratulates president-elect trump, but what will the impact be of his victory when it comes to the war in ukraine? here in the u.k., prime minister sir keir starmer eager to strengthen ties with mr. trump. we will explore what it will

take for the u.s. and u.k. special relationship to thrive. sumi: very warm welcome. i am sumi somaskanda in washington, where donald trump has comfortably won the race to become the next presidenof the united states and what has been described as one of the most dramatic comebacks in american political history. the paul's had suggested the race to the white house with the close and that days of legal wrangling over the results could follow but in the end that was not the case. not only did mr. trump sweep home in the crucial swing states he needed to win but he also won the popular vote, describing his victory as "magnificent." his democratic opponent kamala harris has called mr. trump to congratulate him.

she is expected to deliver a concession speech in about one hour's time in washington. we will bring that to you live. on the electoral college vote count, donald trump now has 294 and kamala harris has 223 putting mr. trump away above the 270 needed to win the white house. we will be assessing how donald trump turned around his political fortunes from a convicted felon to the most powerful man in the world. we will also look at what went wrong for kamala harris's campaign and what a donald trump victory means for the rest of the world. our north american correspondent gary o'donoghue looks at how the outcome unfolded. >> as the results rolled in, they began to believe bit by bit that they could win. >> this is freaking awesome! >> when the key swing state of pennsylvania was called for the former president, they could barely contain themselves. >> we did it, man!

>> i am not just happy, i am ecstatic. >> we are so back! this country is safe! gary: the former president and not future president has overcome scandal, court cases, even a brush with death from an assassin's bullet, and the country has sent him back to washington and the white house for another four years he is promising a new golden age for america. the party atmosphere grew and grew as the alcohol flowed. >> please welcome president-elect donald j. trump. gary: but it wasn't until after 2:00 a.m. when they got the chance to see their next president in the flesh, flanked by his whole family and his key tenets. >> i will not let you down, america's future will be bigger, better, bolder, richer, safer, and stronger than it ever has

been before. god bless you and god bless america. thank you very much. gary: tonight has become a very different night to the want we expected. donald trump victorious without dispute. the result came quicker than anyone or the polls had expected. it was a very different picture at kamala harris's hq in washington. >> so, you will not hear from the vice president tonight. gary: as the reality sank in, the party atmosphere evaporated. donald trump won this campaign by hugely improving his support among hispanic voters and a significant rise among black voters, too, especially men in both communities. while the vice president failed to match joe biden's support among women in 2020 and was held responsible by voters for years on rising prices in the shops, the highest levels of illegal migration at the southern border

indicates. donald trump celebrated his victory with some of his key supporters such as the world's richest man, elon musk. the scale of this victory was underlined by the man who will be donald trump's vice president. >> i thank you for the trust that you placed in me and i think that we just witnessed the greatest political comeback in the history of the united states of america. gary: despite what the polls had indicated, this was no narrow victory. donald trump goes back to the white house for a second time having won big. sumi: those scenes of jubilation in florida contrasted against the scenes that we saw here in washington, d.c. at kamala harris's campaign headquarters at howard university where her supporters left after a disappointing evening pay we know that kamala harris has now called donald trump to congratulate him on victory, and indeed we have some live

pictures we can pull up for you of the harris campaign headquarters, the same location at howard university in washington, d.c. she will be delivering a speech to her supporters here shortly. this is a concession speech. she is likely to thank her supporters for the work they did, canvassing around the country around those swing states, but certainly, regina, this was not the night and day they were hoping for after this remarkable 100-day campaign that kamala harris and her team launched a short while ago. rajini: indeed. one of the questions for the campaign once the speech is out of the way will be of course to look at what went wrong. i understand that she has thanked her campaign staff for their hard work on the campaign, but there will be a postmortem, won't there? sumi: absolutely. there are so many questions that are already being asked today everything from should president biden have dropped out of the

race earlier, should he have never sought a second term and then handed off to kamala harris with only 100 days to go more or less until the election? or where she not the right candidate in the first place? should there have been an open primary for democrats to select a better candidate? then question being asked about the fact that democrats across the board, they lost the senate, and at the moment, they may lose the house, republicans may retain the house, excuse me. what that means about the democrats message in a time when america is incredibly polarized. rajini: you look at what else went wrong in the democratic campaign. now let's turn to what worked for donald trump's campaign. let's speak to somebody who has an integral role in the campaign, ryan lanza. welcome to the program. you have a big smile on your face, of course. hopefully you had some sleep as well. this really was an amazing, incredible victory if you look at the electoral college, the

national share of votes, and of course, how donald trump increased his votes with various groups including groups such as hispanic men. why do you think you did this, what was your secret? >> first of all, thank you for having me. our secret was clear. kamala harris and joe biden's economy hurt the american people, it bankrupted the middle-class. nearly bankrupted the paycheck-to-paycheck workers. the american people made the decision yesterday, as they did in most of our elections, that it is the economy. for us, we talked about the issues that matter to the american people, economy and immigration. president trump had a record of success during his first term as president on those issues. from the very beginning, the issues were on our side. we knew we had to remain focused and drive home the message regardless of all the noise that existed in the campaign. rajini: the economy has picked

up, and from voters that i spoke to, it was about how people felt about prices and that kind of thing. the question now is -- america is a deeply divided country. there are many people like yourself who are celebrating a second trump term. there are many people who are deeply upset that kamala harris didn't win. we have seen with some of your candidates rhetoric, it's been very divisive. let's not beat around the bush on that. how can he bring the country together? >> i think what president trump said last night as he wants to unify the country. what we have learned is the most unifying effect is a strong economy. that people have the ability to pay their mortgages, have the ability to pay for groceries every week. president trump's message at the end of the day was not just directed at one class of voters in the united states. it was directed at everybody. a message of economic growth for

every segment of the population. everybody can talk about the division that took place. those are campaigns. campaign rhetoric gets heated. at the end of day, if you look at how president trump governed, his policies as opposed to his rhetoric, it was very mainstream and popular. people remember that, nostalgic to that. when you ask how we govern, we know who comes first, the american people. not only the coalition that elected president trump. everybody deserves the equal opportunity that america brings, whether it is new immigrants or people that have been here for 200 years. that is the message that resonates, the message that will help unify the country. sumi: a question for you here as well. what will donald trump's number one priority be on his first day back in office? >> he is shutting wn the border. first priority will be to unify america, make sure we are all growing in the same direction,

but he sees -- he says he keeps promises. one of the promises that he will shut down all of the illegal immigration. legal immigration will all be welcome in the country, it is the reason we have -- the reason we are as strong as we are. legal immigration grows this country exponentially. but illegal immigration robs the livelihoods of our working-class voters. president trump said from day one he's going to shut down the border and we should believe him. sumi: one more question on partisanship. kamala harris said that if she were to win, she would put a republican in her candidate. how is president from going to work across the aisle? >> president trump and kamala harris had a very gracious phone call. she was very gracious in her speech, remarks to the president. he told kamala harris that he needs her help unify the country. that is the first step. he certainly has to appeal to

democrats who didn't vote for him, work with politicians, but he knows better than anyone else, we need to unify the country so that we are all rowing in the same direction. there are many challenges around the world. we know that when the american people are united, the government is moving in the right direction, america is unstoppable. we know that president trump needs to strengthen the relationship with all voters here in the united states. let's not get ahead of ourselves, there is a long process, but it's also important to remember, a lot of the policy decisions that president trump pushes were traditionally democratic party issues. whether it is taxes, tariffs, those have been the priorities of the president, those are things that we unify the country. sumi: great to speak with you. thank you for joining us. rajini: we have just seen reports in the daily telegraph

newspaper here in the u.k. that british prime minister sir keir starmer has spoken to donald trump. of course, now he is president-elect, he will be having a host of phone conversations with leaders around the country as they congratulate him. it's all about those relationships. we will get into that in our next interview. i was keen to get the perspective on what you think are the key relationships that he will want to forge as a priority once he reenters the white house. sumi: we should say first and foremost, president joe biden and vice president harris are still in office until january, so the country will still be run under the current administration. donald trump is someone who has touted his personal relationships with world leaders, so who will he be reaching out to? he was unconventional in his alliances in his first term, saw him put pressure on european allies, countries like germany, the u.k., and others.

it is likely he can build that relationship with the u.k. more than the european union, where he had differences with the french and the germans, but at this point, it's a bit of a reset. donald trump is coming back into office in a very different position than he was in 2016 with this huge mandate, possibly the house of representatives and the senate behind his back that will put him in a position of power. likely he will come into this emboldened and that will affect how he speaks to other world leaders. rajini: let's stay on that subject because the british politician who knows donald trump best is without a doubt nigel garage, the leader of reformed u.k.. let's hear an exchange from them a couple days ago. >> you are the man from europe. i don't know if he is here, i saw him backstage. what he is doing is what we did a few years ago, he is doing a great job. he has always been my friend for some reason. he liked me, i liked him.

he is shaking it up pretty good over there. he was the big winner of the last election in the u.k. he is a very spectacular man, very highly respected, nigel farage. [applause] rajini: that is donald trump president-elect at his last rally in pennsylvania giving a spectacular shout out to mr. faraj who of course was a key campaigner for brexit. the mp played a part in donald trump's 2016 campaign and he was in florida with donald trump as he delivered his victory speech. he is still there now and we can cross live to west palm beach and speak to nigel farage. quite the introduction from donald trump. you were in west palm beach last night as that victory speech was

delivered. you had a front row seat i noticed. just tell us, have you had any conversations with donald trump since he delivered the victory speech, since he won, and what has he said to you? nigel: i spoke to him on monday at some length, spoke to him briefllast night. i have not bothered him today because as you rightly said a moment ago, today is the day for him to speak to world leaders including our prime minister sir keir starmer. i have to say he was remarkably calm as the result were coming through, flashing up on the board, he was sitting there nonchalantly watching it all. it is the most extraordinary political comeback -- i cannot think of anything frankly equivalent, when you think about what he has been through. whether you like him or not, he is a truly remarkable man. rajini: you mentioned the sir keir starmer there, we have seen reports in the daily telegraph

that the pair have had a phone conversation. you can paint in the past for donald trump. there was a bit of a controversy a few weeks ago because donald trump was not happy that people from the labour party had gone to the u.s. in this campaign season to campaign for kamala harris. it certainly left a bit of tension between the two. how would you characterize the relationship between donald trump and sir keir starmer? nigel: it was a diplomatic stupidity, wasn't it? to send up to 100 labour staffers to campaign for kamala harris. it is quite an extraordinarily stupid thing to do -- rajini: but you have campaign for mr. trump. i saw you myself in 2016. nigel: but not on behalf of a political party, i did it as an individual. most certainly not on behalf of a british government, who if they had half a brain cell, would have kept out of the election. rajini: and how has that

destroyed the relationship between the two men? nigel: i didn't say that, have i? rajini: so it hasn't? nigel: there isn't a relationship between the men. they met once briefly. keir starmer is an international lawyer. donald trump and he disagree on virtually everything, so donald trump from the conservative, keir far to the left, so there are differences of opinion. what matters here is intelligence sharing. what matters is defense and the underpinning of nato and making sure those recalcitrant european members of need to pay their percent membership fee. what is really going to matter is trade. what trump is talking about is tariffs being put on a lot of products coming into america. that of course could directly affect us. however, i know, from talking to

previous -- to t previous administration, they want to do a free trade deal with the united kingdom because they believe that would be a fair deal, relative, comparative cost prices in both of those centers. rajini: so a trade deal you think will be on the table. do you think the two men -- you know mr. trump well, you have had many interactions with sir keir starmer as well. do you think the two can have a good working relationship? nigel: i think they can have a practical working relationship. rajini: not a good one? nigel: who is to say where this will go, given the mayor of london is putting out statements today as if some dark cloud has descended on western civilization. david lamy has had pretty abusive things to say, a foreign secretary, about trump. i come back to the point of trade. this matters.

i think by the prime minister will find himself is stuck between brussels, who he wants a closer relationship, and america, with whom not having a big tariff regime is vital to our economy. so it will be made to remind up time for the british prime minister. do we go into direct negotiations with america as soon the trait secretary is appointed, or do we stick to the brussels line? that will be very important. rajini: before we run out of time, what do you think you can do to bring the two leaders together? you have a very good working relationship with donald trump, don't you? nigel: i have nothing in common with anything that keir starmer is doing as prime mister, but a working relationship between the british government and the trump administration is in the interest of both of us. most certaly in our national interest. nigel: there have been some reports that you are helping with back channels negotiations,

back channel conversations, that you could be instrumental in trying to strengthen what could be, at the moment, a bit of a tricky relationship. is there any truth to that, could you add value? nigel: let me make you a promise. if i can do anything to bridge that gap that currently exist between keir starmer's labour party and donald trump's republicans, i will do so, not because i agree politically with his government, but because it is in our national interest. anything i can do to help smooth the way, i promise you i will do. rajini: thank you for joining us from west palm beach in florida. sumi, world leaders have congratulated donald trump on his victory. ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy said he hoped donald trump's approach could bring peace to his country. benjamin netanyahu praised the win as a new beginning. sumi: that's right. there has been a lot of questions asked about what the

victory of donald trump might mean for some of the world's crises including the war in ukraine. we can speak to a former ukraine foreign minister. he is joining us from kyiv. very good to have you with us here on bbc news. what will donald trump's victory mean for your country's war against russia? >> well, first of all, things will have to be done differently with trump than they were with the biden administration. all of the approaches, old approaches are gone, and you have to build a new foreign policy line, the way you interact. it means a change in the way that things will be done. sumi: how will things be done with donald trump? >> donald trump is entrepreneurial in his answers, so it would be more transactional, it will be more

based on his attempt to look stronger than hipredecessor. , and to end the war within a short period of time. we heard from hiduring the campaign. sumi: do you think that will mean ukraine seating territory? >> no, i think ukraine has very clear redlines. it will be impossible to make ukraine cross those redlines, but most importantly, one should focus on a different question, not on what ukraine will concede, but what putin should concede, and how to make him concede at the negotiating table. sumi: if i can just jump in, we saw below to mayor zielinski meet with donald trump in new york in september during the u.n. general assembly taking place. mr. trump talked about the relationship he has with both mr. pruden and mr. zelenskyy,

and said they need to make a deal. are you not concerned about what the terms of that deal may lo like for ukraine? >> a deal does not necessarily have to be a bad deal. it depends on the scale of diplomats and leaders negotiating the deal. i would strongly reject a doom and gloom scenario for ukraine. i want to remind for at least six months earlier this year, ukraine was fighting russia without receiving any support from the united states because of the no-boat in the congress for the budgetary supplemental. moreover, the europeans will wake up and they will have to step up their efforts because this war is taking place in europe. europe has the potential to step up its support to ukraine. rajini: 30 seconds left come mr. kuleba. what is the message mr. zielinski will try to bring to

the president-elect donald trump? >> peace through strength is the only way forward. sumi: peace through strength, all right. we are looking at pictures of donald trump and volodymyr zelenskyy during his first term, two men that know each other for sometime now. mr. kuleba, thank you for joining us here on bbc news. we appreciate it. we will continue to look at the impact of this massive u.s. election victory for donald trump coming up in just a few minutes. stay with us here on bbc news. right here on bbc news. announcer: funding for presentation of this program is provided by... financial services firm, raymond james.

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