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geoff bennett is away. on the news hour tonight, tonight matt gaetz drops his bid to serve as donald trump's attorney general after failing to quell senators concerns about sex trafficking allegations. the international criminal court issues arrest warrants for israel's prime minister, its former defense minister and the hamas military chief. and senator sherrod brown of ohio discusses his party's defeat in this year's election and the future of the democratic party >> the voters expected democrats to stand with workers and when you don't the disappointment is such that people move away. ♪ >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by -- ♪

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this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. amna: welcome to the newshour. former florida congressman matt gaetz has withdrawn from the running as donald trump's picked for attorney general. sexual misconduct allegations against him fueled scrutiny threatening his chances to be , confirmed. today he wrote on social media "that while the momentum was strong it is clear that my confirmation was unfairly becoming a distraction to the critical work of the trump transition." the house ethics committee deadlocked on a decision to release a report of a lengthy investigation into the allegations against matt gaetz.

he abruptly resigned last week following donald trump's nomination. laura joins us for more. what do we know about why he stepped aside? laura: sources close to the transition said matt gaetz did not have the votes and more and more details that came out about the sexual assault and abuse allegations, it made his pathway harder. the timing of the announcement is notable. matt gaetz announced this a day after meeting with senators on the hill. he was joined by vice president elect jd vance. he could only have lost three votes in the senate. he never requested a meeting with some of the senators most likely to oppose him like senator susan collins of maine. ultimately it appeared he did not have the support. and in a post on truth social , president elect trump thanked him for trying to get the senate

approval,aying gaetz was doing well but at the same time did not want to be a distraction for the administration for which he has much respect. that distraction that the president-elect and matt gaetz have talked about is sexual misconduct allegations. also the house ethics committee was investigating. a reminder, two women testified to the house ethics committee investigators that matt gaetz paid them for sex on multiple occasions including beginning in 2017 when he was a congressman. one testified that she saw him having sex with a 17-year-old at a party. amna: what kind of reaction is getting this -- is this getting today? laura: senator josh hawley said that ultimately donald trump needed someone better suited to the role and democrats like senator chris coons said the nomination all around was very troubling. >> listen, i go back to the fact that this is the president's cabinet.

he has to choose people he has confidence in and who will be able to deliver on his agenda. >> for someone to be nominated to be the chief law enforcement officer of the united states and then to be involved in allegations of sex trafficking and drug use because real challenges for him. laura: a number of senate republicans said there was a sense of relief that he withdrew and one gop lawmaker texted me saying "problem solved." amna: what happens to the house ethics report? laura: leaders on the house ethics committee were quiet today about the future of the report. they were going to meet on december 5 to decide whether to finish the report and possibly release it. we don't know if they will still hold that meeting. amna: and what about the future of matt gaetz? can he get his seat back next year? laura: lawmakers i spoke with say they believe there is nothing barring matt gaetz from coming back in january and

taking the oath of office. technically he resigned for the current congress and many lawmakers are pointing to his carefully worded resignation letter, which said he does not intend to take the oath. amna: matt gaetz is out of the running. who else could donald trump nominate to be attorney general? laura: the transition team did not comment on who he is considering but sources close to the team say he is back to the drawing board. before nominating matt gaetz a number of republican sources told me that names being considered included matt whitaker who served as acting attorney general in donald trump's first administration. he has since been named ambassador to nato. mike davis, republican lawyer and former senate aide and andrew bailey. amna: i know you are tracking some of the other nominations. what is the latest? laura: donald trump's nominee to

lead the department of defense was on capitol hill today with jd vance trying to gain support . this comes right after last night a 22 page report was released detailing a woman saying she was sexually assaulted by hegseth in 2017. and he was asked about the allegations today. >> did you sexually assault a woman in monterey, california? >> as far as the media is concerned, it is simple. i was fully investigated and i was completely cleared. laura: he said the matter was investigated and that he was cleared. but he paid that woman in 2023 as part of a confidential settlement. amna: thank you. ♪

today the world's top were -- war crimes court issued arrest warrants for israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and its former defense minister you'll off gallant for what the court called crimes against humanity for depriving gazans of food into tax against civilians. israel called it an anti-semitic attack on democracies trying to protect themselves from terrorism. nick schifrin has more. nick: in the moonscape that is now northern gaza, in the desperation of gazan civilians, lacking the basic necessities of life for what the international criminal court called crimes against humanity for having "intentionally and knowingly deprived the civilian population in gaza of objects indispensable to their survival including food, water and medicine."

and "intentionally directing attacks against the civilian . population of gaza" as the icc prosecutor argued on the newshour in september. >> even war has rules and yet we are seeing baby after baby destroyed. people in gaza who want to have food and water and want to stop waking up in terror as bombs land and the earth shakes and no place is safe it seems including schools. nick: today the israeli prime minister called the prosecutor corrupt and the judge is biased. >> this is an anti-semitic act that has one goal, to deter me and deter us from exercising our natural right to defend ourselves against our enemies who rise up to destroy us, accusing the state of israel of genocide while we are working to defend ourselves from an enemy trying to commit genocide against us. nick: the icc accuses netanyahu and gallant of a strategy that

impedes humanitarian aid without justification. >> when you put it together, it is clear that israel has chosen to fight hamas, not just directly by targeting fighters, but by squeezing palestinian civilians. nick: ken roth is a princeton professor and the former rector of human rights watch. >> the court today in affirming the arrest warrants highlight the starvation and the fact that children have died of malnutrition. the fact that people are having to have operations without anesthesia. this is because israel has imposed one obstacle after another to the delivery of humanitarian aid. nick: israel argues it doesn't restrict aid and in the last year has facilitated 39 trucks to enter gaza with more than 840,000 tons of food. it also accuses the u.n. of failing to distribute enough aid and of hamas of stealing aid. >> to accuse us of starving is

unbelievable. the trucks are getting into hamas hands. nick: a lieutenant colonel in the reserves and a former lawyer and judge. >> it is quite an absurd to hear it from our point of view. nick: today's arrest warrants also accuse netanyahu and gallant of failing to prevent or investigate intentional attacks on civilians. >> the affirmation of the arrest warrants is appropriate recognition that the way the israeli government has been fighting the war in gaza has been by pursuing a war crimes strategy. >> they are doing the best they can not to harm civilians. but again, this is war. to think that in a war that you won't harm civilians, it is impossible. hamas is using intentionally

human shieldsnd putting things inside schools. nick: the icc also issued an arrest warrant for the man that helped design the strategy even , though israel said they killed him months ago. the icc 124 member states are now obligated to arrest them which means they hold the same international status as russian president vladimir putin. today's announcement could lead european countries to further slow weapon deliveries to israel. but incoming national security advisor mike waltz said there would be a strong response suggesting the next donald trump administration could re-impose sanctions. and the white house today accused him of failing to engage with israel structurally. >> we reject issuing arrest warrants for senior israel officials. nick: as for israel, vowed the arrest warrant would not stop the war in gaza until israel

achieves all of its goals. for the pbs newshour, i'm nick schifrin. ♪ vanessa: i'm vanessa ruiz in for stephanie sy with "newshour west." an update now to our top story about former congressman matt gaetz withdrawing from consideration for us attorney general. this evening president elect trump nominated pam bondi to the role. bondi is the former attorney general of florida was one of trump's lawyers during his impeachment trials. russian president vladimir putin says his country has tested a new intermediate range missile to strike ukraine. officials in kyiv initially claimed it was an intercontinental ballistic missile, which is capable of carrying nuclear warheads over long distances. but american officials clarified it was likely a closer-range missile. putin said the use of the new

missile was a direct response to western policy changes towards ukraine's use of long-range weapons to strike inside russia. mr. pru --putin: we consider ourselves entitled to use our weapons against military facilities of those countries that allow their weapons to be used against our facilities. and in the event of an escalation of aggressive actions, we will respond decisively and reciprocally. vanessa: ukrainian officials say the missile was one of nine fired at the central city of dnipro, at least two people were injured. in brazil, police have indicted former president jair bolsonaro on charges of orchestrating a failed coup following his 2022 election defeat. the acusation against the former right-wing leader and 36 others is just the latest legal challenge for bolsonaro. brazil's supreme court will review the document, and decide whether to recommend the findings be sent to the country's prosecutor general, who will then either formally charge bolsonaro, or drop the

investigation. bolsonaro has denied any wrongdoing. the danish military is closely watching a chinese ship in the baltic sea after two major underwater fiber-optic data cables were ruptured in recent days. the bulk carrier is anchored in the sea of kattegat off of denmark's northeast coast. the vessel was in the area at the time of the ruptures. finland sweden and germany have , all launched investigations into the damaged cables. today, denmark's defense minister said no conclusions can be drawn yet. >> i look at it very seriously. i'll also start by saying, we do not know the extent of the incident yet, whether it is sabotage or something else, but regardless, it is of course a situation that requires a lot of attention. vanessa: in beijing, a foreign ministry spokesman said he had

"no information" about the chinese ship's "specific situation," but he added he hoped the ship's rights to normal navigation would be "protected." the faa announced today flights between the u.s. and northern haiti can resume. all flights to the country from the u.s. were grounded on november 12 after three commercial jetliners were struck by gunfire. while six airports will be open to travelers from the u.s., a ban on flights into the port-au-prince airport will remain in place through at least december 12. in southwestern iceland, a volcano has erupted on the reykjanes peninsula for the seventh time in less than a year. the flow of lava started with little warning late wednesday near the town of grindavik, about 30 miles southwest of the capital reykjavik. dozens of houses were evacuated. officials say the fissure is nearly two miles long, but add that the eruption is smaller than a similar one back in august. back in this country, the

highest court in illinois has overturned jussie smollet's conviction. the actor had been charged with staging a racist and homophobic attack against himself in 2019. two years later, a jury found him guilty of disorderly conduct for filing a false hate crime report. today, the state's supreme court ruled smollett was unjustly prosecuted, since the initial charges were already dropped as part of a negotiated deal. cryptocurrency markets took note of the announcement today that sec chairman gary gensler plans to resign, effective january 20th, inauguration day. under his leadership, the sec has been aggressive in its oversight of the crypto industry. the 2024 national book award for fiction went to a brand new take on an american classic. "james," by percival everett, re-imagines "the adventures of huckleberry finn" by mark twain this time, from the perspective , of huck's companion, an enslaved man named jim.

in april, everett told the newshour writing the book felt like having a conversation with twain. >> i am perhaps writing the novel that he was not equipped to write. and nor would he even imagine it because his character is huck finn, it's huck's novel. but he -- and it is huck's novel. but he could not occupy the psychic and cultural space that was occupied by jim. vanessa: prize went to the nonfiction anthropologist jason de lyon. his book "soldiers and kings: survival and hope in the world of human smuggling" -- chronicles the lives of smugglers who guide migrants across borders, in latin america. "something about living" by palestinian-american author lena khalaf tuffaha won the poetry prize. young people's literature honors went to shifa saltagi safadi for “kareem between,” and “taiwan travelogue” by yáng shuang-zi's won for translated literature. and, the country music industry

has been honoring its own, with some star performances -- and a few surprises -- at the 58th annual country music awards. ♪ rising superstar shaboozey was left out of the winners circle, even though his hit “a bar song (tipsy)” has topped the billboard hot 100 list for 18 straight weeks. chris stapleton won the most awards with three, including male vocalist of the year. still to come on the newshour -- how trump's transition team is ignoring and defying the norms of presidential transfers of power. the department of justice tries to force google to sell its chrome web browser to break its search monopoly. and a look at the precarious safety record of the military's osprey aircraft. >> this is the pbs newshour from the david m. rubinstein studio

in washington and in the west from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. amna: the senate map heavily favored republicans this election cycle so it came as little surprise when democrats lost the majority in the upper chamber. just tonight, democratic senator bob casey of pennsylvania officially conceded his race. with republicans also winning the white house and retaining control of the house, there has been a lot of talk within the democratic party about what went wrong and what it should do to win back voters. sherrod brown of ohio is one of the incumbents who came up short this year and has argued the party needs to do more to champion the issues of the working class. i spoke with him earlier today. welcome to the newshour. thank you for being here. i have to ask you about your election loss because it really calcified for a lot of people that the democratic party had lost working americans as a core

part of the base. it's surprising in your case because you have spent your entire career talking about working families and serving working americans -- it has been a central theme for you even though your state drifted red. in ohio, why did that message fail to resonate with voters? sen. brown: it did resonate. i ran way ahead of the national ticket. by seven or eight points. it has been a slow migration away from the democratic party of american workers starting with nafta. since then democrats don't talk enough about workers or put workers at the center of what we should be doing. my career has been working to do that. and my post senate career will continue with that. how do we make the democratic party the party of workers again? because we have not entirely we have much lost that. amna: in your state, people know you and it is a central theme for you but it was still not a winning message. did you lose because of your

opponent or because you are a democrat? sen. brown: i lost mostly because i am a democrat. i'm not judging him. he spent $220 million against me. that is 20 times what mike dewine spent as a senator in 2006 when i beat him. a huge amount of money. the ads they ran about transgender and immigration were proven to be lies. the last two weeks donald trump was on tv and their ads was saying that a vote for sherrod brown was a vote against donald trump. when the top of my ticket loses by 12 points it's hard to overcome that. it tells me that the democratic party over the last 30 years and the reputation of the party as a whole is -- betray is too strong a word -- but i still hear people in the miami valley and dayton and youngstown still talking about

nafta. i grew up in mansfield, ohio and went to school with the sons and daughters of machinists and electricians and steelworkers and autoworkers and rubber workers. those jobs first went south because corporate leaders are always eager to seek cheaper wages, particularly in nonunion states, and then politicians of both parties sold out those workers bypassing the trade agreements that caused a huge cascading of jobs overseas. these workers did nothing wrong. they were productive and they carried union cards. their lives were mostly middle-class and those days are gone. we have seen in the last 30 years profits go up and executive compensation skyrocket. we have seen the stock market go up and wages are flat. amna: you are saying they blame democrats? sen. brown: it's not entirely clear. and friendly voters expect , republicans to be corporate,

to look out for their rich friends. we didn't expect that with democrats. voters expect democrats to stand with workers and when you don't, the disappointment is such that people move away. amna: i know you and other senate democrats met with harris campaign officials today on capitol hill. that meeting included the campaign chair. what can you tell us about those conversations? sen. brown: i don't talk about private meetings like that. amna: was it a meeting senate democrats requested? sen. brown: it was a regular lunch and i didn't even know they were coming. i think the leader announced it. i never ever talk about what happens in the democratic caucus. people like you and the media find out because i have colleagues that talk too much but i'm not one of them. amna: can you give us a sense of this was more of a listening session or a venting session? sen. brown: i'm telling you all and going to tell you, sorry. let's try another one. [laughter] you are a good reporter but i'm sorry. amna: not that good, apparently.

[laughter] people say the conversations about what happened need to unfold and people need to figure this out. on the timeline, how do you look at that? house democrats need to figure out what stance they will take with the incoming majority. midterms are not that far off. how do you look at this period of autopsy? figuring out what went wrong? sen. brown: the mistake that perhaps journalists, certainly politicians, make is that politics is left and right. to me it is on whose side are you on? it means standing up for pensions. in the last four years we've saved the pensions of 100,000 workers. we have capped the price of insulin at $35. we passed a major bill that a million veterans have benefited from. they were exposed to burn pits. look at inflation. connie and i go to the grocery

store after church. my wife. and when we are walking down the aisles, or at the meat counter or the checkout line, people talk to me about inflation. they know who i am and they talk about inflation. the answer most of the time is that you are paying the higher prices because of corporate profits and stock buybacks, and executive compensation. we have to make that clear. i've built my whole career taking on interest groups and drug companies and holding wall street accountable. that is what the voters respond to and it is also the right position in government. look at stock prices way up in the last 30 years. profits are up and executive compensation is way up and wages are flat. there is a reason for that. too many politicians, almost all republicans and a number of democrats, have played too cozy with special interests.

when connie and i made the decision to run for reelection i , knew they would spend a lot of money because they want to beat people like me who stand up to the drug companies, tobacco companies, the companies that outsource jobs. wall street they don't like people like me in office and that is why they spend the money. i beat them in the past and i will beat them one way or another the next time. amna: we know in this election that the economy mattered. we also know the incumbent played a role. you've had some weeks to reflect. do you think president biden should have run? sen. brown: i'm not gonna talk about -- i'm not gonna do that critique, it gets us nowhere. amna: this is clearly a conversation they are having. sen. brown: there's no way to fix it if you made a mistake. i was one of four senators that called for him to step aside. i wish he had done it earlier but i'm not going to do that kind of autopsy.

i don't think that serves a purpose. what does serve a purpose is democrats have to sharpen our message, whose side are you on? not left or right. whose side are you on when you take on the drug companies or wall street or the companies that outsource jobs. amna: looking forward for the future of the democratic party, there is a sense of frustration i've heard from the younger members of the caucus, 30's and 40's, saying maybe there is time for a generation change. they point to the leadership in the house with leader jeffries. and they point out that nancy pelosi still exerts a lot of influence and power. they say the same change has not happened in the senate. do you think it should? sen. brown: i don't know that nancy -- she has power because she is a great intellect and has an incredible record of public service. she is not the democratic leader. the top three leaders, one from massachusetts, one from new york and one from california -- i

like all three of them. the problem in part is we are seeing in places like ohio, western pa, michigan and wisconsin is probably too much of a bicoastal party. amna: and it's not reflected in the membership? sen. brown: every generation -- i'm not critical of any one of them but in every generation when you lose an election people say you need new leadership. but it is not just new leadership. it is who is on your side. amna: as we sit here today, matt gaetz has withdrawn his nomination to serve as attorney general for the incoming trump administration. do you believe the other nominees will be confirmed? sen. brown: i'm not there anymore so i don't have to think about what is going to happen or predict. i would assume probably one more will go down or two, because they are pretty extreme. amna: there will be a special election for jd vance's seat. will you run? sen. brown: i have no idea.

i will stay in the arena one way or the other. it might be elected office or shows like this that only have me on because maybe you think i will run or maybe you think i have something to say. i'm going to continue to speak out. amna: we always love to have you on and we hope you will come back soon. thank you, sherrod brown, democratic senator from ohio. sen. brown: sure, thanks. ♪ amna: as former president donald trump prepares for a return to the white house, the aides and allies running his transition team have avoided many of the rules guiding the process , choosing instead to cut out the government his administration will take over in january. laura is back with a look at the delays in the transition process. laura: so far the transition team has not collaborated with the general services administration. that's the government agency

tasked with handing power from one administration to the next. they have also cut out other government agencies and declined to have the fbi run background checks on appointees, instead relying on private services. the choices are a warning sign for many federal workers. joining me to discuss is max stier, president and ceo of the partnership for public service and an expert on presidential transitions. thank you for joining me. max: thank you for having me. laura: some may think that donald trump has been president before, he knows what he is doing and can do it again. why is the lack of communication and coordination with existing agencies a big deal? max: there are two answers to your question. the failure to engage with the government agencies you mentioned including the white house will mean the trump team will not be ready on day one , january 20, when they are responsible for running our government. they will not be ready to govern in a way that can keep us safe and can achieve the promises

they made on the campaign trail. to run our government is a huge endeavor. you have to do a lot of preparation. you noted president elect trump was president previously. that was a while ago. it is a team sport. the rest of his leadership team was not a part of that administration. they need to do a lot of prep work to be ready and they need to engage with the agencies to be ready on day one. laura: so far the , president-elect has named 15 of the 25 cabinet level positions. it doesn't seem he is being slowed down by the fact that they are not signing the ethics pledges. what is the public missing? how could this delay the way government functions? max: announcing who president-elect trump would like to have lead the agencies is not something that requires engagement with federal agencies other than after the fact to make sure they have the background checks you mentioned from the fbi. they will need to go through the

office of government ethics to to make sure financial conflicts are cleared. the senate has a responsibility to check with their advice and consent responsibility, all the appointments that require their review. the fact that he is moving quickly in terms of naming people he would like to have serve in his cabinet and senior leadership positions doesn't mean he is working effectively. we have already had one proposed nominee drop out. we have questions about the vetting that might have been done or not been done for others. going fast and not doing it well does not move you forward in a smart way. understanding the situation within each agency, what the issues and challenges are and the problems they have to resolve, that is fundamental work that is part of the preparation. you need to get access to the agencies to be able to do that. laura: people that will be entering the trump administration, like vivek

ramaswamy, have said that agencies need to be deleted outright while other trump allies have described the incoming administration as a hostile takeover. does this have any impact on the transition itself? what do you see is the larger impact of this kind of hostile takeover as they describe it? max: again, i think there should be no hostility. the federal government is there in order to serve the duly elected new leaders. we have a democracy. the civil servants there who are apolitical are used to new political teams coming in and changing the directions they want to go. if you win the election you have that right. you don't have the right to break the law or the constitution. even the concept of a hostile takeover will lead to less effective government and get in the way of their ability to achieve the agenda they have sat out. laura: you said on day one that the transition team may not be ready to take over government. max: yes. laura: does that have an impact

on people's everyday lives? max: it will have an impact on people's everyday life. more important, it will have an impact on the threat that we all may face from a national security problem. the handoff of power is the point of maximum vulnerability for us as a nation. we have seen historically whether it was 9/11, or 2008, the threat during the inauguration, there are real issues that come up during the transition that involve our actual safety. you want to make sure the new team coming in is ready to take the handoff and has all of the information they need, the time to prepare to be ready. on the day-to-day life, that stuff will show up later on down the road. it may not be obvious but there will be impacts on everything from food safety to air traffic safety, the list is long of things we rely on for our federal government. if you don't have a team that knows how to run the government effectively, you will see a

degradation of service over time and you might see big risks of things not working at all. laura: max dyer, thank you for your time. max: thank you very much. ♪ amna: the department of justice has asked a federal judge to force google to sell off its popular web browser chrome. it comes after an antitrust case found google had illegally maintained a monopoly on search. the outcome could have a major impact on the company and the way that so many of us interact with the internet. william brangham has the details. william: chrome is worth an estimated $20 billion. it is a central part of google's business model. the implications could be enormous. in a filing late yesterday, the government also asked a judge to force google to divest from its android mobile operating system and it wants the company to stop paying phone makers like apple

to keep google search the default on their devices. google called this doj approach unprecedented government overreach and that it would break a range of google products that people love and find helpful. to help us understand this move, we are joined again by npr technology correspondent bobby allen. good to have you back on the program. what is the department of justice's argument? why are they saying, google, you have to carve chrome away from your company? bobby: the department says google has too much power. justice lawyers say a way to sort of push back on that power is to have another company come in and buy chrome which is a web browser that has two thirds of the market globally for browsing the internet. and for too long the department of justice says, google has self

referenced all of its products to give itself an unfair advantage. if you open a new tab on chrome and type something in, you get google search results. if you pull out your iphone and type something into safari, you get google results. it has created a situation in which other competitors cannot rival this company because they just have it too locked down. the justice department is trying to push back against that. william: let's say specifically on this issue of chrome that google was forced to separate itself from that search engine. wouldn't everyone just still go to google, via every other browser out there because it is so popular? bobby: that is google's argument. they say the reason they have search dominance, and they do , about two thirds of the global browser market is dominated by google's chrome. but the company says it is because they have a superior product.

we have seen in europe which has done quite a bit to rein in big tech companies like google, when consumers are given a choice and they have a new phone and when they are asked what they would like to be there default search engine overwhelmingly consumers pick google. the company says it is because their product is better than the rivals but the doj says no, that is because they have been able to maintain those iron grip on google search by operating like an illegal monopoly and by throwing its weight around whenever it can to box out rivals. now the question becomes will google actually have to sell chrome? and if it does sell chrome, who will buy it and what will that mean for consumers? these are questions we don't have answers to, but we know the process will up and silicon valley in a meaningful way. william: and what about the issue that i mentioned about

google's relationship with android and what does a government want to do vis-à-vis that relationship? bobby: the doj gave google an ultimatum when it comes to android, which is the most popular operating system in the world. the doj has said either you stop self referencing your own products like google search or we the doj may come back to this court and order you spin off the android division completely from google. and that would be a really dramatic and severe punishment for google. the doj is not yet asking for that. they are saying, look, google, we want to give you the opportunity to let more competitors into the android operating system on everyone's samsung phones, so people have more options beyond chrome and google search. if they fail to do that, the justice lawyers are saying they might just ask that android also be sold off just as they are pushing for chrome to be sold

off. william: i know at this point it is hard to know because we don't know how this will shake out, but for the average internet user who simply wants their phone in their computer to work in a smooth and seamless way to get the results that are legitimate and accurate does , this potentially upend those things where will this not affect consumers? bobby: when it comes to consumers most experts i talk to say that if chrome is sold off, it is going to be a bit of a pain. we all use google and turn to google, one because it is kind our habit, and two because for the most part it has been a pretty consistently good product over the years. now more than ever, especially since ai search engines have really become increasingly popular, some have noticed that google search has not been as strong as it has been in the past. in the short run if chrome is sold off to another company, it will become a bit of a pain in

terms of as you are saying navigating the internet. you will see your research results displayed differently. the interface might seem a little different or funky because it isn't the google search you are used to. the department of justice says this in response -- we need more competition into the online search market because google for decades has dominated in a way that has been unfair. william: a political question for you. i know the department of justice is not supposed to swing with the political winds but attorneys general can say focus on this and less on that. do you have any sense as to whether the donald trump department of justice, we don't know who will run that, would pursue these cases similarly to the way the biden department of justice does? bobby: that's the million-dollar question. it is worth noting that the lawsuit started in the trump administration and the biden administration carried it to trial and won in court.

when trump gets into office and whether his department of justice will pursue similar remedies or reach a settlement that has some other details, we just don't know. one thing is for sure and that is the biden administration has, as part of its legacy, a push to rein in big tech and to come down really hard on companies i -- companies like google. william: bobby allen technology , correspondent for npr, thank you for your time. bobby: thank you for having me. ♪ amna: for months, the u.s. military has been flying the osprey despite questions about whether it should be. the tilt rotor aircraft was grounded after a crash in japan last november that killed all eight airmen on board. the crash was the fourth by an osprey in the last two years. the military allowed the fleet

to fly and said it mitigated the problem that caused that the accidents but the families of those killed are not convinced the osprey is safe and want it grounded again. nick schifrin reports from north carolina. nick: at marine corps air station new river, the marines of the fighting griffins approach the aircraft they call their workforce. the osprey had been grounded for three months before we visited this summer. the captain, dave schroeder, is eager to fly and make sure it is flight ready. he is an instructor who trains junior pilots. do you get rusty? >> absolutely, flying is a skill. nick: he has been flying military aircraft are more than a decade and calls the osprey one-of-a-kind and gives it his full faith. >> i'm fully confident in the way the aircraft performs. i trust my life in it. the flexibility it provides and the speed at which we can operate is unmatched.

nick: the osprey takes off like a helicopter and flies like a plain, at twice the speed of other helicopters. the marines call it essential to their mission and on average deployed every day last year but 20 it also has a history of high-profile crashes. >> and experimental marine corps aircraft crashed today. >> in afghanistan, a u.s. osprey went down. >> and osprey aircraft crashed into the sea off japan today. nick: since fatal osprey crashes 1992, 11 have occurred. 20 people were killed. >> it was such a heartbreaking experience for all of us. we were friends and colleagues with families and crews. initially we were dealing with the loss. nick: did you know some of the guys in japan or california? >> yes.

one of my initial thoughts was that it could have been any of us. i have three young children at home and hope to have another one soon. i have a gorgeous wife. they are my top priorities. considering it could have been me, it was very emotional. nick: the 2022 crash in california killed five people including a 19-year-old, lance corporal strickland. brett and michelle's son. >> i don't think many people get to see the serious side or the caring side -- he was an animal lover, a musician that loved jazz. >> we found out after his passing that he was going to elope. crazy kid. look at that sweet little face. >> one of the things that hits me is when i look at pictures because there are no more new pictures. nick: when he was 14, he

attended an air show and sat in an osprey cockpit. 15 years later he was killed in he was the crew chief his first one. day on the job when his osprey crashed during a training mission. a military investigation found that the crash was unpreventable caused by mechanical failure. , the osprey is one of the world's most complex aircraft that has two engines mounted at , the end of each wing. each engine is attached to a gearbox and a clutch that power the rotors. if one engine fails, the other engine can provide power to the other rotor through a driveshaft. and in california the osprey crashed because of what the military calls hard clutch engagements. the clutch slipped on both sides and defend reengage, causing a power surge, damaging the driveshaft and creating a catastrophic loss of thrust. the military acknowledges that

ospreys have suffered hard clutch engagement at least 19 times but they don't know the root cause. the stricklands and other families sued the manufacturers of the osprey for failing to address what they say are previously known mechanical failures. >> my job going forward for my son and those that have fallen with him is to seek answers and accountability for something that should have been taken care of over a decade ago. >> this repeated drumbeat of fatalities is unacceptable. nick: in the house oversight june, committee questioned the osprey safety. a vice admiral blamed hard clutch engagement on aging aircraft. >> over time the clutch wears out. there is a higher susceptibility to slipping. i grounded the fleet. and mandated removing aircraft with over 100 hours of clutch use. that has been completed and we have flown numerous hours

without an event. that has not eliminated the risk. we won't until we have a redesigned clutch that is in testing right now. nick: the new clutch will be ready until mid 2025. not fast enough for stephen lynch. >> if another osprey goes down, this program is undone. ground them now and we will bite the bullet for the next year or so until we get the clutch figured out. we have already had too much carnage and lost too many good men and women. >> you are almost asking those still flying to roll the dice. it feels like russian roulette. >> are they doing what is necessary to fix the problem and find the cause? not just -- >> a patch. >> exactly. nick: the marines told newshour the osprey has flown or than 600,000 flight hours and it's mishap rate is lower than some of the other aircraft they fly such as the harrier and super stallion.

do you believe it is safe? >> i do. i flight with every other pilot. i don't have a single doubt. nick: back in new river -- since we filmed this he left the military, and trained on mitigating emergencies even if he doesn't know the cause. if you don't officially know the root cause how do you know it is , safe? >> when i look at the numbers that were provided to us i feel very confident that there is such a low chance of it happening again that i wanted to get back into the aircraft. >> they keep discussing that the root cause is not known. to me logically the root cause is that the clutch is too small. nick: rexx is a retired air force pilot the flew combat missions over vietnam and was the defense department chief

osprey analyst. he says the military's mitigation does not address the fundamental flaws. >> the drive train is inadequate to handle the loads. the history of the clutch engagements and now this complete failure of the gearbox clearly indicates that there is a design problem. nick: failure inside the gearbox behind the rotors in part caused last year's crash in japan. the military investigation found that the left-hand gearbox started chipping causing the , teeth to grind down leading to rapid cascading failures of the drive system. the report also said the crew could've landed earlier when the chips were initially detected. gearbox failures and other risks that the military has known about for years, an unreleased review found a gearbox failed in 2019 due to a manufacturing defect in the way the gears were made. documents obtained by the associated press showed seven

previous cases of cracking. the japan crash report unusually blames senior pentagon leadership. "safety assessments and their findings were given insufficient treatment at the program level and were in adequately , communicated to military services." >> there is a strong desire to keep these aircraft flying. and basically you compromise good judgment in order to do that. and that is a leadership problem. nick: he urges the military to install an additional warning system similar to what exists on this type of british military helicopter that would alert the pilot to unusual vibrations. >> the v22 does not do it though they have the onboard systems to make the detections. in today's environment, that is unconscionable. nick: until the changes to design can be made or there can

be a better warning system, should the aircraft be grounded? >> yes, it should be grounded. >> we all think they should be grounded. that no mother should go through this. nick: gabriella is the mother of 33-year-old technical sergeant zachary lavoie. he died in a crash in japan. he had been in the air force 10 years. he planned to get out get , married and start a family. >> it has been hard. really hard. you don't expect to outlive your children. especially someone -- we are not in times of war. it was a training mission. nick: how hard is it to talk about? >> i talked to him two days before and we were making plans for him to visit for christmas. it was a very happy time. we had a good talk. and then suddenly he is gone. nick: it is a plane that airmen and the marines love and the military calls vital.

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