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society. >> it is an amazing moment. at first we were so nervous. we could not believe it like maybe it is a dream should it has been a nightmare for us for all these years. >> foreign countries intervening militarily is not the answer. the idea syrian territory can be occupied as we see from israelis with the violation of a treaty signed between israel and syria in 74 is not the answer. ♪ >> tonight days after the fall of the assad regime, syrians adopt to a new life inside the country. but what could the future look like in syria? we will be speaking to one woman hoping to reconnect with her family in damascus. saudi arabia confirmed as hosts for the 2034 fifa world cup and
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not without criticism. the european union's push to be the ai continents will be taking a look at the 750 million euro promise to help the region in the race. in syria shops are reopening and people are returning to work in the capital, damascus. today rebel fighters are -- have broken into the tomb of the former president. picture show a coffin and past the mausoleum on fire. crowds gathered in a suburb for what they believe will be a public execution of one of assad's henchmen. jeremy bowen is in the syrian capital. >> if only moving from dictatorship to freedom was as simple as climbing on to an
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abandoned tank and posing for pictures. the assad family was in power in syria long before these children's parents were even born. a lot of anger built up and it is being released. sometimes politely by quiet families at the former president's home. it was looted after the assads fled. the end of what must have been an elegant lifestyle. now the house is secured by victoria's fighters, hts. they borrowed the fighters guns for photos. . until a few days ago they would not have dared to look through the gate. the visitors were still getting used to living without fear of the regime. >> people were living in hell and he was in his palace. he did not care about what they were going through. he madthem live in fear, hunger and humiliation even after we entered damascus people would only whisper to us because they were still afraid.
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>> anger at the assads is a family affair. much stronger revenge was on the minds of the crowd, a quarter of damascus that suffered grievously. there fury at bashar al-assad deepened in 2018 when my intelligence operatives through at least 41 local men into a mass grave and shot them dead. a video of the massacre was leaked. one of the killers is under arrest. the people have come here to >> imagine if someone knocked on your door and brought you by force and did not tell you anything, the reason of why you are getting killed. >> more and more people arrived until thousands blocked the streets. when rumors flew around the
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execution was starting, the crowd surged back and forth jostling for the best position. not wanting to miss a thing. the man they wanted hank had been the local boss, a thief as well as a killer. he stole my house and money said one person. >> of course i want him dead. i would haveone it myself with my own hands but i could not find a way. i wanted to kill him. >> somehow they decided the execution was happening down the street and stampeded. if syria's new rulers do not want change to be measured in blood, they will need to control the desire for revenge. there is a real strong sense of excitement, expectation, anger as well. they want to see this man dead. they don't just want justice to be done. they want to see it being done not just because of his crimes but because of the boundless
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cruelty of the assad regime. >> after 14 years. we just want justice. >> in the end, the was no execution. at least not yet. . it was probably a rumor but thousands wanted it to be true. when the weight of dictatorship is lifted, powerful forces are unleashed. how they already dealt with shapes what comes next. jeremy bowen, bbc news, damascus. >> scenes of some chaos in damascus. let's talk to the senior can indications officer at women for women international and is talking to us from berlin. but you are hoping to go back to syria quite soon? >> i am. this is the plan. . it has been for me almost 10 years since i was able to go homeo see my parents. this is the first thing i'm going to do very soon. >> what are your thoughts at the
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moment a few days after the collapse of the assad regime? are you optimistic or are you nervous about what the future might bring for your country? >> what happened was although we have been working for this moment for the past 14 years, it was somehow a shock for us it happened suddenly and very quickly. it happened -- it is not a chance it happened now. it was everything we have been doing for the past 14 years but also it happened without any sense of accountability and justice is going to take place. this is worrying. we don't see that we have achieved what we want to achieve by the assad regime falling. we still need to see justice and accountability taking its place. optimism is not the right word at the moment but it is still something we feel like really
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content about that to we don't have this dictatorship anymore that has been over half a century ruling syria. we still want more to happen and of course we are scared, we are anxious and we are happy at the same time. > scared, anxious and happy and what about the movement at the core of the rebel group? how do you think they will treat women in syria? >> let me start by remembering how the assad regime was actually treating women in syria because i don't think there was anything worse than the assad regime ruling the country and ruling the syrian people. conditions for syrians under the a shot regime -- the assad regime and marginalized groups were actually like widespread marked by oppression and violence and systematic abuse.
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women have faced all kinds of forced displacement and loss and forced disappearance and detention and all kinds of torture and sexual violence. they were not even treated well outside their country when they became refugees. they had limited access to health care and education. i am still trying to process what we have been through. of course we will not agree for any similar conditions to be similar. we don't know yet. it has been only three days and we will work for a sustainable political solution for syria. did 1 -- >> one wonders as people who were at one stage connected to al qaeda whether -- they might for example want to control what women wear in terms of religious morality and so on. . we remember the iranian
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revolution. all sorts of promises were made to women at the beginning of that. but then of course a very draconian moral code was brought in and the religious police and so on. >> we understand that. we are -- they do not represent all syrians. it represents may be a part of syrians now, their mentality. that does not include all syrians. what we want is a system that includes everyone and especially women and marginalized groups. personally i don't think this is the right decision to have them in any scene ruling the country. especially with seeing they have already chosen to be on their table are all men. we don't see a face of a woman already. but i mean, everything is a
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little unclear because we did not receive or record yet any case where they started to interfere at how women look and where. i think personally syria and the syrian people are much bigger than this system. i think it is really difficult to rule syrian people with something that they refuse. >> really good to talk to you and the best of luck to you. let's hope you can go back to syria very soon. thank you for being with us. thank you. >> thank you. >> we can also speak to joanne cummings who is professor at baylor university with a career in u.s. diplomacy serving extensively in the middle east. thank you for being with us. what are your thoughts now about what the rest of the world should do about syria? how it should help syria reconstruct and rebuild and
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achieve a path to stability and democracy. excellent questions. we have to recognize those are in a sense three different things that are going to happen concurrently in some ways but they are three distinct decisions. various countries are going to make independently. if i were to give a short answer to what i think various countries should be doing in syria, it would be as little as possible should this is a time when syrians are in this very difficult process of getting home, finding family, finding out if family are dead, discussing how they want to move forward. any foreign intervention in that even if it is privileging one group over another is going to create distortions in the
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process that are ultimately not going to contribute to long-term stability. my counsel would be give syrians space to handle this amazing transition. in terms of the reconstruction, that is a very difficult question. here i think we need to look at you will recall when the syrian displacement was at its height, there was a donor fatigue because there were so many things going on in different parts of the world on displacement and everyone was being tapped for funding. i think right now, we have got a similar problem. as horrendous as the damage is in syria, in some ways it is much more complete and deliberate in gaza. some of the same people are saying we are going to be tapped
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to be involved in reconstruction in gaza. do we want to commit too much right now and of course there is ukraine. i am not ignoring the rest of the world but these are three countries that are very much in similar areas and the same countries are going to be asked to commit to reconstruction. >> what about the united states in particular? we have antony blinken sectary of state heading out to the middle east to see what u.s. role might be regarding syria's future but then we have donald trump about to come into the white house saying syria is a mess to quote him and the u.s. should have nothing to do with it. the -- >> yes. it is difficult for syria to be having a transition when the u.s. is going to be having one. some of the problems we have in syria have spanned multiple, we
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the united states have spanned multiple administration so it is not the fault of only one person. there are various issues the united states has felt differently about. for instance fighting isis in the northeast, working with the stf which has its own set of demographic and political challenges and then having a long time of hostility toward assad while at the same time hoping to be able to bring him to a peace table. there is that history but looking at a trump administration, i was working on syrian issues in northeast syria in the coalition against isis when president trump was in his first administration pit his -- his first administration. his demand we drilled down the
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troops we had in northeast syria to support the stf resulted in bases being handed over to the russians which was a huge pr coup for russia. we need to think about how that is going to play. at the same time, in the same truth tweet, he also said president obama suit -- president obama should have taken a stand on his redline but is the united states supposed intervene or is it not supposed to intervene? president trump does not seem to know where he stands. >> where do you see the future of syria? my last guest was saying she was kind of hopeful but also anxious and a bit nervous. i suppose the world is waiting to see. do you think it can stabilize, it can pivot to some sort of democracy and stability?
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>> i think syria absolutely can. invasions from the south and turkish pressure on the north and demands for divisions within the country all hurt that process to -- that process. i was in damascus. our member talking to people in the opposition about how is this going to work out in a way that does not involve civil war. i remember them saying to me with utmost seriousness syria does not do civil wars. iraq does, lebanon does. we don't do civil wars. that was true at the time. one of the problems like with your first love, if you have not done it before, it is hard to know how you come out of it. that is going to be part of the discussion should >> interesting analogy. thank you shared director of
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>> the father and stepmother of the 10-year-old girl whose body was discovered in surrey last year have been found guilty of her murder at the old bailey. she endured more than two years of abuse including being burned and regularly beaten suffering dozens of injuries. her uncle was found not guilty of murder but guilty of causing or allowing the death of a child. her family fled to pakistan after the killing. speaking outside court, police said this was one of the most difficult and distressing cases they. had ever dealt with in special report tonight, we will hear from her head teacher. first, let's get this report from helena wilkinson who has more on today's verdicts.
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a report does contain some distressing details. >> sare sharif loved to sing and play the guitar. she was a confident, caring little girl but in august last year, she was murdered after months of brutal violence. >> your daughter has died. >> i killed my daughter. >> more than a day after she had died, her father callethe police. >> my daughter is dead. >> who has killed your daughter? >> it is me. >> he had left her body alone at home in woking in surrey and fled with his family to pakistan. this is the moment police arrived at the house. upstairs under covers in a bunk bed, they found her body.
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her father had left a note. it said it is me who killed my daughter by beating. the little girl had around 100 injuries including broken bones, bruises, burns and bite marks. police discovered this cricket bat with her blood on it and a metal pole that her father hit her with as she laid dying. hours after she was murdered, her family were at heathrow heading for pakistan but after a month of the run, her father, stepmother and uncle returned to the u.k. and were arrested. >> the body of sare sharif was discovered. >> you are arrested for the murder of sare sharif. >> during the trial, her father initially denied almost everything in the witness box before dramatically changing his evidence.
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today at the old bailey, he and the stepmother were found guilty of her murder. as her father was convicted of murdering his daughter, he stared straight ahead. her stepmother sobbed as she was also convicted of murdering her. the 10-year-olds uncle cried as he was convicted of causing or allowing her death. >> the murder of a child is absolutely shocking but the horrific nature of the abuse she suffered during her short life has made this case particularly disturbing. today, justice has been served. >> after the verdicts, her mother described her daughter as a princess and said she would always be in her heart. helena wilkinson, bbc news, at the old bailey. >> now some breaking news coming
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into us from the united states. we have heard the director of the fbi has announced he will resign next month. christopher wray told staff he would leave the role at the end of president biden's term in office. donald trump has already said he intends to replace mr. ray on his return to the white house. 's preferred choice for taking the job is cache patel, a staunch ally who has vowed to sac the agency's leadership. we will have more on that with our correspondent in washington in the next hour. staying in the u.s., let's get more on the case that has captured international attention. luigi mangione, the man accused of shooting dead a health insurance chief executive in new york is challenging his extradition back to that state. he was arrested in pennsylvania after a nationwide police manhunt. our correspondent is following the case for us from new york. what is the latest in terms of
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the police investigation into this? >> we heard a short while ago from the new york police commissioner and she confirmed now that they have the gun in their crime lab. the gun that luigi mangione had in his possession that was taken by pennsylvania police. in the crime lab in new york, they say tt gun matched the shell casings that were found on the crime scene. those shell casings used to kill brian thompson, the ceo of united health care. so for investigators, they say that is a match. the gun that was found on luigi mangione to the gun used to kill brian thompson. they also say in their lab that they found luigi mangione's fingerprints matched a water bottle and a protein bar that the suspect had purchased from a starbucks.
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remember, before the fingerprints really did not help because nobody was in their database with a match but after luigi mangione was processed in pennsylvania after his arrest on gun charges, they booked him, they fingerprinted him and that did provide a match two items at the crime scene. >> reports they have also discovered a notebook. >> that is right. along with the three page handwritten manifesto that we knew about a few days ago, this new revelation that we demand gianna also had a notebook and that notebook referenced wanting to target a ceo at a conference with a bomb instead of -- a gun instead of with a bomb to minimize the number of people killed. they talk about a phrase written that notebook saying what do you do. you whack the ceo at the annual parasitic bean counter
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convention. it is targeted, precise and does not risk innocence. as investigators build tir case against luigi mangione, they do some of the key pieces of evidence they are going to say speaks to his motive and motivation. >> thank you very much indeed. the latest on that case from our correspondent in new york. you are watching bbc news. do stay tuned. ♪ announcer: funding for presentation of this program is provided by... financial services firm, raymond james. announce funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. and by judy and peter blum kovler foundation, pursuing solutions for america's neglected need
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