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>> and now bbc world news. >> welcome to news day on the bbc. i'm kathy kay in new hampshire. >> and i'm in london. headlines this hour. the u.s. republican mitt romney wins the new hampshire primary, the latest stage in the race to take on president obama in november's presidential election. >> we know the future of this country is better than 8% or 9% unemployment, it's better than $15 trillion in debt. it's better than the misguided policies and broken promises of the last three years and the failed leadership of one man. the president has run out of ideas. now he's running out of excuses. >> 00 deaths since september. u.n. condemned syria as
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president al-assad continues the brutalness. scotland seeks to put on a referendum in 2014. it is 9:00 p.m. in new hampshire and 2:00 a.m. in london, broadcasting to viewers on pbs in america and around the world. welcome to news day. >> welcome to new hampshire where the former governor of massachusetts, mitt romney, is one step closer to his party's nomination to take on president bahama -- president barack obama. he has been the first candidate to win the iowa caucuses and iowa caucuses back-to-back. he won the iowa caucus a week
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ago and won new hampshire much more handily. let's look at the numbers as they stand with 27% of the votes counted here in new hampshire, mitt romney has 35% of the vote, ron paul the libertarian candidate has 24% of the vote and jon huntsman has 17%. we'll hear from mitt romney a second more. let's hear from ron paul who has come in second. he's speaking now. [applause] >> i think the intellectual revolution is going on now to restore liberty in this country is well on its way and there's no way they're going to stop the momentum that we have started. and that is the victory that you have brought about because you have been the ones that have done the work. there's a lot of people here, but the ones across the countries, the donors and the excitement on the campuses,
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it's just unbelievable. we don't always get the coverage or interest shown on what is going on because if they did, they wouldn't be ignoring so much of what we're doing. but, you know, i find it sort of fascinating when they finally get around, and this is different people, it could be in the media or our opponents or whatever, but i sort of have to chuckle when they describe you or me as being dangerous. [cheers and applause] >> that's one thing, they are telling the truth because we are dangerous to the status quo. [crowd chanting] >> and we will remain a danger
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to the federal reserve system as well. >> yeah! >> you know, the study in modern history from the beginning of our country and throughout all of history, monetary policy on periodic occasions will become the dominant issue, and we have emphasized that and it has become an important issue. just think, this is the first presidential campaign that the subject ever came up since the federal reserve was started, so we are now the cause of what is happening. it will remain a dominant issue. there's no way they're going to put it to bed because they have destroyed our money. it's worldwide. there's a financial crisis going on and it's only sound
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money and personal liberty that can solve the crisis that we have today. >> the one reason i talk about the monetary system so much, it was a sneaky, deceitful way to pay the bills. an honest government wants to be a big spending government with tax to people and then the people would know what they were doing. if we had to pay taxes for everything that they do, you know, the people would rise up and stop it. so then they started borrowing money a lot and then people didn't notice that quite as much because they passed that on. then they resorted to the printing of the money and that was why the fremb was established to take care of the powerful interest, the military complex, the banking system, and deficit financing. and there's a couple reasons they have deficit financing. sometimes there are conservatives that want deficit financing. and sometimes there are
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liberals who want deficit financing. and they have resorted to this, and of course this is why we are facing this crisis today. but it also serves those interests who like to think that we have this responsibility -- they claim it's a moral responsibility to take our young people, put them into the military, and send them hither and yond policing the world and using our money. [crowd booing] >> just as we have been able to bring to the forefront that most important issue of funny money, fiat money, the paper money, the federal reserve, we have brought to the forefront, others have tokenly talked about it and they get in office and do nothing about it. but right now it is this liberty movement which is seen as a patriotic movement, an
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individual liberty movement that is saying to the country and to the world, we've had enough of sending our kids and our money around the world to be the policeman of the world. it's time to bring them home. [cheers and applause] [crowd chanting "bring them home"] >> the one thing is, we do know they will come home. my goal and our goal has always been to bring them home in a deliberate fashion to avoid major economic crisis by destroying our economy by spending so much overseas. in the last 10 years, the wars that have been going on added $4 trillion of debt and i don't think we have been one bit safer for it. i think we've been less safe because of all the money we've spent overseas. so this is the issue now.
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it is an issue that i think is crucial. jim mentioned in the introduction that, you know, so often we say if we tell people we think we should spend less in the military, they say oh, that means you want to cut defense. no, if you cut the military industrial complex, you cut war profiteering but don't take one penny out of national defense. [cheers and applause] >> besides, we're flat-out broke. fortunately, we did not have to fight the soviets. the soviets brought themselves down for economic reasons. did you know that they were so foolish and thought them so bold they could pursue their world empire that they invaded afghanistan. but we will come home. but if we do it now calmly and deliberately, we can save our economy here at home because
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there are a lot of people who are suffering here at home. you have to stop the inflation because that's what destroys the middle class and what transfers the wealth from the poor in the middle class to the wealthy and that's why the wealthy got their bailouts and the middle class shrunk and they lost their jobs and they lost their houses. so this is what we have two do. we have to cut the spending. this is why i have made a token suggestion in the first year of office, we would cut at least $1 trillion from the budget. [cheers and applause] >> ron paul there, the congressman from texas who has come in second here in new hampshire with something like 24% of the votes. it is a very good night for ron paul. his supporters are extremely pleased with his very strong showing here in new hampshire. let's get some sense of where we stand now in this new hampshire primaries and what it actually means for the general election going forward. i'm joined by amy gardner, a reporter with "the washington
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post." thanks very much for joining me. listening to ron paul there, clearly a very passionate speech. he's done well. let's quickly talk about him because he's a curious candidate but doesn't really threaten the frontrunner, does he? >> he'll be a force to reckon with as the process unfolds. he has money and organization and passion among the supporters. whether or not you believe he can actually win the nomination in the end, we're going to see him be a force to be reckoned with as we move on to south carolina, florida, and the other states that are coming up soon this year. and what that means is the big question, will he damage mitt romney? i think that's the overall question for this whole process. mitt romney had a commanding victory here tonight, a second victory. the question is not so -- one of the questions of course is whether he can continue the lock on the nomination or whether somebody can slow his momentum. the other question is even if his momentum can't be slowed,
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will he be damaged as the others go down? >> it's interesting, watching the number of attacks over the last couple of days and how they've escalated against mitt romney. >> very much so. >> they must be watching this in the white house thinking hey, and chuckling with glee. >> newt gingrich has already launched a $250,000 advertising campaign in south carolina where we're all going tomorrow, their primary is saturday, a week from now. and he's got what we call a super-pac, one of these independent, unlimit the funded commithe committees that's going to spend $3.4 million in south carolina, brightally slamming mitt romney. even if newt gingrich who will come in fourth or fifth here tonight can't win the nomination, he's going down taking mitt down a notch with him. >> ok. so this begs the question of whether this process that we've seen in new hampshire and iowa has helped or hindered the
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republican's chances of winning the white house in november. >> that's true. i also think what you're seeing is a real battle for the soul of the republican party here. you have a very -- you have a conservative wing of the republican party, sort of emblemized by the tea party movement which grew after obama took office in 2009, just strict desire for fiscal conservatism, social conservatism, too and they want an uncompromised candidate. >> they don't have to admit mitt romney, clearly. >> mitt romney is not their guy. the conservatives are divided. you have mitt romney winning iowa with less than 30% of the vote. you have him winning new hampshire with 35%, 36% of the vote and the remaining 65% to 70% is divided. >> the irony of all of this is this is a year when the republicans have a shot at winning the white house. i mean, the economy is not great, president obama's policies are not very popular. if they could find -- this is
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not what republicans here and iowa keep saying to me, if only we can find a candidate we can win this. >> it's interesting, depending on who you talk to how much republicans feel they have a good chance at the white house. they obviously see an opportunity but also see a very tough battle with an incumbent president who is going to raise something close to a billion dollars and who has proved to us in 2008 that he's a formidable campaigner and that's one of the reasons they've gotten behind romney and see somebody who can raise money and has a formidable operation and is sort of going toe to toe with the wing of the party that wants ideological adherence at the expense of electability. >> it will be interesting to see whether it pans out and if the conservatives will rally behind mitt romney. good luck in south carolina. >> thank you. >> mitt romney, a very good night here in new hampshire. he's become the first candidate since 1976 to win both iowa and new hampshire. his team now pretty confident
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they have this nomination sewn up. >> thank you very much. in other news, the u.s. and france condemned a speech by syrian leader bash are al-assad . they said he'll use an iron fist to crush the opponents of his regime. the united nations says an estimated 400 people have been killed in syria since an arab league mission have arrived in late september. here's john simpson. >> it was a moment that people all over syria had been waiting for anxiously. this was only the fourth time president al-assad had spoken to the people like this since the troubles began last march. would he show a hint of compromise? might there be some way out of the conflict? he seemed relaxed enough as he came on to the stage at damascus university, almost
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like a candidate up for election. his handpicked loyalists represented a definite body of opinion in syria. people scared but the demonstrations will end in the violent breakup of the country. most of the cities whose names are on the wall behind him have seen demonstrations. but there is to be no compromise. >> our priority now is to regain the security which our country has enjoyed for decades. it can only be achieved by hitting the terrorist with an iron fist. there will be no leniency for those using weapons to kill our civilians. >> and yet the demonstrations continue today though we haven't finally been able to verify these pictures. according to the opposition, 35 people were killed today alone. arab league observers currently inside syria watched president assad's speech as carefully as
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anyone. he wasn't complimentry about their mission. >> the arab league is just a reflection of the arab situation. if the arab league failed six decades towards arab interest we shouldn't be surprised it has failed today. but who's influencing president assad to keep on cracking down on the opposition? hard-liners in his own circle certainly, but syria's last major friend in the region is iran, and force like this worked in iran back in 2009 when there were huge protests against the highly questionable result in the presidential election. eventually the demonstrators in tehran and elsewhere were hammered into submission. just keep on toughing it out, iran will be telling assad, and you'll succeed, too. but the crackdown hasn't been
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enough so far to cow the demonstrators, though equally they've not made a decisive breakthrough. today's speech changes nothing. it's still deadlock. john simpson, bbc news. >> you're watching "news day on the bbc. still to come on the program -- >> more reaction from new hampshire. mitt romney takes a step closer to the republican party nomination. >> at least one person has been killed in south africa in a stampede of applicants trying to enroll at the university of johannesburg. a woman was trampled to death as the crowd of thousands surged forward when the gates opened. we now have a report. >> survivors of this morning stampede still looking for lost belongings through the pile of rubble. thousands of potential applicants stood outside the campus for days but there were only 800 slots in the university.
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desperation among the students caused a frenzy. >> everyone was trying to stay safe but people in the back were pushing because they don't understand what's happening and they all want to get in. >> everybody was pushing, a lot of screaming. it was terrible. it was terrible. >> this is where the stampede took place today. the parent who died was at the front of the cue. she was here desperately trying to find a place for her child. when the crowd from behind pushed the people in the front and that's when she fell and died. this is an indictment of the south african higher education system where the country is the richest on the african continent. university management expressed sympathy for the loss of life which happened outside its campus but said the crowd was uncontrollable. >> we can't go in and punish what is a national challenge
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but nevertheless, given what has happened, the university has shown us there will be an inquiry so that then we can see what needs to be done. >> the unemployment rate among the youth is as high as 50%. there's more hunger for education since the end of apartheid but there aren't enough places in higher education. bbc news, johannesburg. ♪ >> this is "news day" on the bbc. the headlines for you this hour, the u.s. republican mitt romney has won the new hampshire primary, the latest stage in the race to take on bahama -- take on barack obama in the presidential election. ron paul has taken second place. syria's president bashar al-assad vowed to continue the crackdown on protesters.
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the united nations says 400 people have died since december. well, as you've just been hearing, mitt romney has won the new hampshire votes in his speech to supporters in the past hour. he continued his scathing attack on president obama. let's listen to what he had to say. >> we know that the future of this country is better than 8% to 9% unemployment. it's better than $15 trillion in debt. it's better than the misguided policies and broken promises of the last three years and the failed leadership of one man. the president has run out of ideas. now he's running out of excuses. [cheers and applause] [crowd chanting "mitt"] >> and tonight we're asking the good people of south carolina to join the citizens of new
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hampshire and make 2012 the year he runs out of time. [cheers and applause] >> president obama wants to put free enterprise on trial. and in the last few days we've seen some desperate republicans join forces with him. but this is such a mistake for our party and our nation. the country already has a leader who divides us with the bitter politics of envy. we have to offer an alternative vision. i stand ready to lead us down a different path where we're lifts up by our desire to succeed, not dragged down by a resentment of success. [cheers and applause]
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>> in difficult times we can't abandon the core values that define us as a unique nation. we are one nation under god. make no mistake, in this campaign, i will offer the american ideals of economic freedom, a clear and unapologetic defense and we're going to win with that message. >> mitt romney there. more to come from new hampshire for you. in other news, the government in scotland says it intends to hold a referendum on scottish independence in late 2014, an expected announcement has further fueled the scope of any referendum on the centuries old union. the british government wants the vote held sooner and says it would be unlawful it conduct
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one without its improval. we have a report. >> is scotland set to leave the united kingdom? tonight a possible departure date as scotland's first minister dismissed claims by u.k. ministers his planned referendum was illegal. >> it has to be the goal for 2014 because it's the biggest decision scotland has made for 300 years. if you do things properly, the proper process has to take place and have the debate in the way it must be had and that's the date we're going to move towards. i can understand that perhaps they haven't thought about these things but must resist the temptation to interfere in scottish democracy. common sense, good judgment in the scottish parliament and above all, the view of the scottish people prevail at the end of the day. >> mr. secretary moore, in the cons they said mr. salmond was exceeding bold power and offered to resolve that but with strings attached. >> i thought we should have the
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referendum sooner rather than later. i think the economic uncertainty is bad for scotland and bad for individuals whose jobs are potentially at stake in the future. let's get rid of our uncertainty and what we're offering here is to work with the scottish parliament and the scottish government on behalf of the scottish people so we can indeed get on with that big decision which one of us will make anything bigger in our lives whether scotland should remain part of the united kingdom. >> even if the referendum is in 2014, the government wants conditions, a straight yes or no vote on independence, not the possible second question on maximum deevolution contemplated by the s.n.p. the commission said the electoral commission should run the ballot and not a new scottish body as proposed by alex salmond. in two parliaments, hollywood and westminister a political battle is underway how the referendum should be conducted. prior to the much bigger
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conflict still to come over the future of the 300-year-old parliamentary union between scotland and england. one legal expert said what matters is the popular will. >> a democratic state has never ignored the result of a referendum so even an advisory referendum is something that will carry its own political momentum and basically force the hand in negotiations' and i don't see any chance of that. >> ignoring wargs from westminister the scottish cabinet signaled the start of the referendum process. but will that be tested in the court of public opinion or the law courts? brian taylor, bbc news, edinborough. >> you've been watching "news day" from the bbc. a reminder of our main news this hour, the former governor of massachusetts, mitt romney, won the primary in new hampshire. the latest results for you now with 37% of the votes. he's in the lead with ron paul second and jon huntsman third. more on that to come.
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