>> rose: welcome to the program. i'm charlie rose. the program is "charlie rose: the week." just ahead, president obama travels to asia. "time" magazine lists 100 of the most influential people on the planet. and a new exhibit of art, banned by nazi germany. >> to actually see the art that was deemed as un-german is fascinating. >> rose: we have those stories and more on what happened and what might happen. >> there's a saying around here: you stand behind what you say. around here, we don't make excuses, we make commitments. and when you can't live up to them, you own up and make it right. some people think the kind of

accountability that thrives on so many streets in this country has gone missing in the places where it's needed most. but i know you'll still find it, when you know where to look. captioning sponsored by rose communications >> rose: and so you began how? >> it's a very subjective process. >> rose: is it luck at all or something else? >> we're going to do this. >> rose: what's the object lesson here? >> they need to be called out for it. >> rose: tell me the significance of the moment. >> rose: president obama left washington on a post poped trip to asia. and for the first time in decades, an american won the boston marathon. here are thesitis and sounds of the past seven days. >> another body was recovered, bringing the death toll among the sherpa guide guides to 13.

>> rose: sherpas go on strike on mount everest. >> the sherpas want to suspend climbing on the mountain as a sign of respect. >> rose: a surprising turn in the search for malaysia flight 370. >> disappointment in the search for the missing malaysianarilier. metal debris that washedda shore does not appear to be from the plane. >> president obama says the u.s. is now considering more punishment. >> we have been preparing further sanctions. those are tead up. >> russia and ukraine edge closer to the brink of war. >> rose: a court orders the white house to release the details of drone strikes against americans. >> the american. >> one year after the bomb, thrition,000 runners raced across the city. >> rose: the i.r.s. is under fire again. >> the agency paid out bonuses to employees, even those who

owed backtaxes. >> rose: britain celebrate the bard's birthday. >> every year, every decade, your understanding of shakespeare is completely new. >> a world-record base jump from the world's tallest building. >> look at that! ♪ ♪ every day, turn, turn, turn ♪ >> reporter: apple launched its iphone trade-in program. >> rose: apple goes green. >> the large inventory of used phones in the u.s. is getting refurbished and resold in emerging marks. ♪ you know the big wheel keeps spinning around ♪ >> rose: a stowe away hops a flight to hawaii. >> surviving a five-hour flight in the wheel way of a plane from san jose, california, to maui. >> rose: vice president biden was in ukraine in had week where he delivered a message to the russians by way of a press conference. >> we have been clear that more

provocative behavior by russia will lead to more cost and to greater isolation. you've heard a lot from russian officials in the past few days, but now it's time for russia to stop talking and start acting. >> rose: very few americans have had a firsthand look in ukraine. one of them is john mccain. he is critical of the western response to the crisis, including president obama. >> in moldavia they're very, very nervous because as you know, moldavia is not part of nato. transnistria, the eastern part of moldavia has about 1400 russian troops there. they've been there for years. and the question is, is what does vladimir putin do now? does he consider unrest there in the east? it's awfully hard for the government to function and get their economy in order and all

those things? or does he go across the south and take odessa, which is important to him, and then up to moldavia? and the other, of course, is that he just continues to foment discontent and uprising and, you know, the little green men. and it makes it very difficult for this new government to function, and how difficult is it for them to have free and fair elections with the little green men running all over the place in eastern ukraine. >> rose: so how do you stop him? >> let me tell you how far off base i think this administration is. they said that they would not give them defensive weapons. they said is that they would give them meals ready to eat. they wouldn't even fly them in on u.s. aircraft. they had to use trucks on u.s.-- they had to use trucks because

they didn't want to provoke vladimir putin. i mean, the first thing, charlie, is understand vladimir putin for what he is and account accordingly. >> rose: what is it do you think is his philosophy? >> clearly putin? >> rose: no the president. wha>> i don't think the presidet believes in american exceptionalism. he won the nomination by voting against going to war in iraq. he came to the presidency on the pledge that we would get out of all these wars, et cetera. >> rose: what do you mean by american exceptionalism? >> we are the exceptional nation. the 20th century. american century, and i hope the 21st century will be as well. we lead. in other words, a firm, strong, message to vladimir putin that we're not going to sit by and watch him restore the russian

empire. >> rose: the week ahead will be an important one for president obama. he is currently in the middle of a four-nation swing through asia. that trip had been delayed for months by last year's government shutdown. here for a look at what the president hopes to accomplish is curt campbell, former undersecretary of the affairs and founder of the asia group a washington-based consultancy. i am pleased to have him back on this program. tell me what you think the president can accomplish on this trip. >> i have to be honest, charlie, there are a lot of hard places in the world, so the president's going to four nations, independent meetings in four countries, each of which is currently being tested. the president's got to walk a very careful line here, to sort of reassert american leadership, strong support for each of these countries, all the while understanding that sort of the shadow in the background is this looming set of very important,

very challenging relationships with beijing. so he's got to be reassuring, firm, and strong, but at the same time, underscore that the united states is still committed to a good relationship with the china. >> rose: someone said to me today or i read this somewhere today that the asians appreciate not only the quality of the time but the quantity of the time. >> i-- i have to say that matters enormously. it is often the case-- i have been involved in decades of trip planning. asians like a little bit more leisurely set of engagements. i think the important thing about this trip is that it's a long one. it hasn't been postponed. the president's there. he's going even though there are crises and developments in other parts of the world. i think one of the concerns in asia has been in the midst of enormous domestic challenges and preoccupations, in the midst of pressing challenges in the middle east and in europe, will

the united states have the time and attention to focus on the necessary 21st century challenges in asia? the president's making that commitment during this trip. >> rose: america no longer has the world's richest middle class according to a series of study reported by the "new york times" this week. that will come as no surprise to senator elizabeth warren. she has been championing the calls of the middle class long before she got to washington. >> i ended up going to a commuter college that cost $50 a semester. i ended up going to a public law school. i grew up in an america that was investing in kids like me. we had a whole period in america, about a half a century, when the first thing that our politicians in washington worked on and thought about was how it grows the middle class.

those investments made in education, in gi bills, n.d.e.a. loans, state universities, the highway system, the power gridz that we built so small business could get started and there was a good infrastructure to back it up. the fact that we believed. this is what made us special. to build a big pipeline of ideas. we invested in medical prospect and scientific research and engineering research because we believed out of those innovations there would be opportunities for kids like me and other kinds of kids. and that's what happened for 50 years in america. as our country got richer, or families got richer. as our families got richer, our country got richer. i had a fighting chance. i ran for the united states senate. i wrote this book. because it's not where we are

now. >> rose: it is also said that you have become the great hero of the left in american politics. is that accurate? >>un, i think that's-- that's pundit talk. what i do believe is true, though -- >> regardless of where it comes from, is it true? what i believe is true that there are a set of issues we have to stand up and fight now. this goes back to this core notion of the rich and powerful are calling the shots in washington. they've got money. they've got power. all we've got on our side is our voices and our votes. and so, it's time to level that playing field. consumer agency, good first start. but there's a whole lot more we need to do. in fact, let me tell you-- let me tell you a key one. colleges. it start with me. my $50 challenge. today, most kids who are going off to college do not come from families where somebody can just write a check and pay for college. so the united states government

comes in and says we'll lend you the money. and i think that's great. i think that's what they should, but here's the deal. thaisd we want you to pay us back, not just the costs of the funds and the administrative costs and the bad debts, we want to double that or in some cases nearly triple the amount of money to produce billions of dollars in extra revenues for the united states government. so in effect, what we've got right now, is a system where the united states government is making billions of dollars in profits off the backs of kids who are trying to go to college. that is obscene. that is wrong. >> rose: who are the most influential people on the plan ?et and what does that mean, anyway? "time" magazine is out with its choices. the annual power list of 100 individuals chose fren the fields of politics, business,

technology, sports and the arts. and, apparently, get this, i am one of them. nancy gibbses is the managing editor of "time" magazine and i'm pleased to have her here on this program to talk about this list. >> nice to be here, and congratulations. >> rose: thank you, thank you. let's talk about the others. this is the tenth selection -- >> 11th. >> rose: this is 11th. >> and i'll challenge you call it a power list because we're very specific about that, that there is a difference between influence and power. >> very much so. >> rose: and many people rank power and there are ways to do that. this is something more sult. influence can be very visible, in your face. vladimir putin is on the list. barack obama is on the list. but there are also people who you have never heard of whiews influence is much less visible and it occurs in every different realm so i think it is experienced differently. >> rose: how do you choose them? what's the process? >> we'd love to say it's civic

but it couldn't be. it's a collaborative one. among one of the most useful resourcesources are are former e 100." you will be advising us on next year's list. we poll our readers and have many, many responses to that. we spend time with our correspondents around the world. and then as we collect all of these names, we do a great sorting. although, actually, in a way the hardest part, charlie, is not figuring who to put on the list but who to have write about them. sometimes we like to have people who have known the person for years. so this yeart boon pickens writes about carl icaun. and polyparton write writes abod daughter, miley cyrus.

so in some cases we have people who have known each other for many years, but we also asked president obama to write pope francis, who he met for the first time a few weeks ago. >> rose: what is amazing to me about this is this simple idea-- people make a difference. >> we are living in a century that is so decentralized, digitized, democratized where somebody can go from invisible to globally famous overnight by a youtube video that the ability for individuals to exert power that's unprecedented in human history is really extraordinary. >> rose: in medical news this week, the nonprofit group end blindness by 2020, announced it is increasing the prize money it would award to ending blindness to $3 million.

sanford greenburg is the chairman o eye institute at johs hopkins university. >> even after 50 years, i can still feel what it was when i went blind. for many months, i had declining vision, and my mother and i went to see a glaucoma specialist. and he examples me, and then turns to me with my mother in the room and says, "well, son, you're going to be blind tomorrow." i guess that was my moment. one moment you're at the top of your game, and the next moment, there is no game. after surgery, i-- i felt empty, eviscerated. my vital parts cut out. and there was a fair amount of pain in my eyes, but nothing in

comparison with the pain in my heart knowing that my mother had just witnessed her 20-year-old son go blind, his eyes cut open. my girlfriend, sue, i was convinced, i was going to leave me. after all, i'm a crop dropout. i have no eyes. no money. no future. but she didn't. and it is really because of her that i'm here tonight with you. and she and my college roommate, art garfunkel, set me really on the way out of my horrific wilderness. so i returned to columbia. but then something happened back then, not too far from where we're sitting tonight, that

turned me away from blindness. art and i were walking towards grand central station during rush hour when he abandoned me. so i stumbled to the train that got me back to columbia, and as i walked through the large iron gates of that great university, a guy bumps into me and says, "ops, excuse me, sir." it was, of course, my roommate, this guy called garfunkel. and he had not abandoned me. he followed me the entire way, and as i bumped into his chest, that instant i knew that if i could get through the new york

city subway system blind, there were no limitations. >> so what do you hope for today? >> a group of us started something called "end blindness by 2020." and sue and my family and my college roommates art and jerry spire-- he was actually a witness to my subway odyssey, who's been with me and for me since we both entered columbia college together. we launched an effort a few years ago to end blindness by 2020. >> rose: turning to arts and cult culture, renewed attention is being paid to the intersection between art and adolf hitler's third reich. even hollywood weighed in, search for art work stolen by the nazis is the subject of

"monuments men." >> hitler and his group had decide not only were they going to kilt everybody but they were going to systematically take all of their history with them. >> rose: and an exhibition at the new york gallery documents hit her's war on art he considered degenerate. >> before the acts of violence against people, the nazis committed acts of violence against art. rene price is the director of the gallery staging an exhibition called, "degenerate art." >> the interest and curiosity about this dark moment in german history is huge. it's this confrontation that has never been done before of showing the art that was vilified by the naughties on one side, and then to show the official german art, and in the

summer of 1937 in miewn. in munich, you could see both within a few yards of one another and we brought this aesthetic together again. >> the nazis staged two art exhibitions side by side, on the one hand what hitler thought art should be, on the other, so-called degenerate art, confiscated from state museums. >> you have to consider the counter-image, what was not wanted in the third reich. >> what did degenerate art look like? >> you could say it looks like modern art. >> the exhibition of modern or degenerate art drew more than 2 million people in total and 20,000 per day. >> some of the people entering the exhibition were saying farewell to modern art work. >> is it too simplistic to say nazi-sanctioned art was bad, and

the degenerate art was good? >> to me it comes back to the question what is the role of measured arthonored art. >> he was even mocked for his style, and also depicting always this naked women, but still he was in favor of someone like adolf hitler, who thought it worked. on the other side, you can see the starting point for the complex pieces he produced until the end of his life. >> beckman left germany the day the degenerate art show opened and continued to paint in exile, including this self-portrait. hanging nearby amongst the empty frames of work destroyed by the nazis, a self-portrait by one of

his contemporaries. >> notice the background, includinged as a pattern, but once you have seen it, notice that, you cannot avoid to see always the signal of the red swastika. >> he committed suicide the next year. >> we now look at russia and china and iran and we question whether artists are free to express themselveses in those societies. is that an aim at all to this exhibition? >> as we know, history repeats itself. and we are aware tawhat happened in the third reich in germany is something that still happens to this day. if you first start with the art, and then it's music, and literature, and then it's ideas, and then it's human beings. >> rose: here is a look at the week ahead.

on sunday in rome, the cannonnization of john paul ii and pope john paul xxiii. tuesday is the day president obama concludes his trip to asia with a visit to the philippines. ed with is the day the annual prize for truth tell will be awarded to edward snowden, among others. thursday, the day the daytime emmy award nominations are announced. friday's is the 112th birthday of the world's oldest missing man, artura lacato, of italy. and saturday, the annual running of the kentucky derby. and this weekend on your magazine stands: that's "charlie rose: the week" for this week. one note before we go. it was william shakespeare's

450th birthday oned with, so we leave you tonight with the act on stev steven spry performg "12th night "in our studios. thank you for watching. i'll see you next time. >> i am happy. i will be stout, in yellow stockings, and crossguarded even with the swiftness of putting on. my stars be praised. here say postscript. if thou entertains, my love, let it appear in my smiling. my smiles become thee well. in my presence, still smile, job i thank thee. i will smile. i will do everything that thou wilt have me.

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