tavis: good evening. from los angeles, i am tavis smiley. tonight, a conversation with arianna huffington. the third method to redefining success at creating a life of well-being and wisdom. and we will pivot to a conversation with brian culbertson who has had 27 number one hits and we will close the show tonight with the performance of her rise in from his latest cd another long night out. we are glad you have joined us. and aconversations performance coming up right now.

>> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. tavis: arianna huffington's new york times bestseller, creating a life of well-being, wisdom, and wonder grew out of the commencement speech she gave last year where she likened the two traditional metrics of success to being the equivalent of two legs of a three-legged

stool. eventually, you will fall flat. >> it is good to be with you. tavis: i thought you said you were not going to write another book. >> i did. this was the surprise baby i did not think i would have. but after that commencement speech, there was such a response to the message, the need to redefine success that i decided to put it all together like a roadmap. from where we are to where we need to be. tavis: who did you think the audience would be for this book. it seems to be that the folks who focused -- who most need to get that message are those chasing money and power but everyday americans understand life is about more than that.

>> i think it is written for everybody. we see people struggling with adversity and some people are overwhelmed by it and some andle find inner strength wisdom to transcend the greatest adversity. for me, that is really the key. it is not just about money and but we have this same incredible source of wisdom and we don't take the time to connect with it. we realize that whatever the circumstances, we need to reconnect with ourselves and it requires disconnecting from our devices. tavis: we will come back to that in a second. most of us do. you had a physical accident that led you to this moment.

>> i collapsed from burnout, exhaustion, and sleep deprivation seven years ago. i hit my head on my desk, got four stitches in my right eye, and that is when i started asking big questions that we stop asking after we leave college like what is success, what is a good life? legme up with this third that includes our well-being, our wisdom, and the capacity to bring wonder to our lives. i am not putting them down. tavis: how do you figure out with regard to money and power

about how is asking to fight that third metric. how much power do you need? >> i am saying that we need to in thee powers of life journey and not the chase. and not waiting until we achieve the next promotion, get married, or graduate before our life can begin. to begin right now and bring 100% of our self into it. the most important thing for me is that we can make these changes with a very small baby steps. i'm not asking people to transform their lives overnight. i have three little baby steps. steps and that is

deliberate because we are addicted to the current way of living which is fueled by burnout. tavis: when you say baby steps, , when you ask people to disconnect from their devices, that is not a baby step. that is a huge commitment for some people. >> but the disconnection starts with baby steps. the first is to not charge the smartphone next to our bed. we wake up at night for whatever it is and we will be tempted to look at our data. i have 55 pages of scientific notes that show when we do that, we go back to see -- to sleep. i saw that you got outed by a comedian. >> he outed me on my accent.

but richard sherman was one of our guests from the seattle seahawks and athletes are ahead of us when it comes to integrating. put that into their training. he said they found out that he wasn't getting deep enough sleep and his game improved. the introduced yoga and meditation because these are performance enhancement tools. that overworking and being on is the way to succeed and it's not. tavis: the seattle seahawks had a little bit of controversy during the playoffs and that conversation kicked up a lot of dust on huffington post and around the internet. the way our correspondents work is that so many of these news outlets get to buy their own and they fill the tables

with all kinds of people. richard sherman was at your table. >> i am interested in how athletes integrate this. i think it is a lesson for all of us. bill clinton in the book said the most important mistakes i made when i was tired. with monica lewinsky in the news again, wouldn't you have happened that you got a good eight hours of sleep the night before? wasersity of miami, she telling me that during her years , she would call in the middle of the night to ask about medicare. these are just the old ways of working. it prioritizes tillers of

success including our well-being and our capacity to make wise choices and wise decisions. said: one of the critics the scientific data that you have included, this is not just your moment or your story. why was that so important to you? need to movere, we away from the way we have been and when youives have a lot of data, it can convince ceos to prioritize the health care of their employees. that whens the data we prioritize that, productivity goes up, creativity goes up. one baby step is 30 minutes more sleep a night. sleep is a wonder drug. we used to dismiss it as something unnecessary or something we will do when we are

dead as we used to say. our health and proves, mental clarity improves, creativity improves. if you don't sleep, you will get sick. they say, i don't remember the last time i was not tired. motherd be a single having two jobs and two children. put on your own oxygen mask first. you will be able to be a better mother and overcome the obstacles. and not get discouraged. i wanted to ask you about whether or not -- is there a particular message you want women to take? is the time for the

third women's revolution. vote,ird -- the first was the second was access to every job at the top of the field and it is incomplete. and we need the third which is to say that we don't just want to be at the top of the world, we want to change the world. it is not working for women, men, or for any of us. still have 50 million people living in poverty. we can't have gun control legislation. politicians identify their identity in terms of their job. callson't make the tough and when we begin to redefine what success is, we will make better decisions whether it is politicians or individuals. tavis: the flipside of the chase , you are encouraging us not just to chase money and power but to find a third metric.

is not sode of that much the chase to have money and power, but just the chase to survive. what is the message to everyday americans like people you have met i can't for member the last time they want tired not because they were chasing money or power, but the rent, the babies milk. struggleuring times of , find the grace in the struggle. circumstances. there were people able even in the most extreme circumstances to find the grace and gratitude. that is the way to tap into the to be able to survive and thrive because even while we are struggling to

survive and thrive, we can connect with that part of our self and it is beyond our circumstance. i was brought up with no money in a one-room apartment. i had a mother that made us believe we were not limited by her circumstances. your mother did that. that is what i am saying here. this is what distinguishes people that are completely destroyed by poverty and struggle and people that rise beyond it. tavis: she said she wouldn't write another book and i'm glad she did and i'm sure she is glad she did since it premiered at number one. still on the list. the third metric to redefining success and creating a life of well-being, wisdom, and wonder. good to have you on. coming up, a conversation with brian culbertson.

stay with us. brian culbertson has never met an instrument he could not play. piano, trombone, drums, bass, trumpet, percussion, and euphonium. he has had 27 number one hits. his latest cd is called another long night out and we will close our show tonight performing one of the songs from that album and i will not put him to the test and make him play all seven instruments at one time but i look forward to the performance. time in my life. i have been doing this 20 years. vinyl was kind of not cool and it was all about the cds. of thewhat do you make

resurgence of vinyl? of likeve gotten sort music going everywhere with the now to put vinyl on a record player and sit down and listen to it, i think it brings you back. you on thell put spot. what is the thing you like most about the way the business is changed in a decade you have been at it and the thing you like least? that i like is that there is a lot more interaction directly with fans. it used to be there was a huge divide between making a record and no one was supposed to know about it. nowadays, i am all about opening and putting videos up while i am making the records and doing all this stuff because

it is right there. so the fans have this new way of getting in touch with you. tavis: what do you like least? >> we have heard of declining record sales and that is very true. day, people used to sell records. the cd and the vinyl are more about a business card to be able to go on tour. it is kind of reversed. it was all about touring to promote the sale of the album and it is kind of reversed tavis: i wonder how you process the fact that people are not buying records the way that they used to. i was fascinated the other day -- at least i was reading an article about this interview that anderson cooper did with donald sterling, the owner of

the clippers for the moment. arbor walters, the biggest that she did was monica lewinsky. if 2 million people -- 50 million people watched that interview. big get cooper got a with donald sterling and it is not the same thing am a but 720,000 people. it is not just about the subject matter. it's the fact that the business of television has changed. >> it is so diluted. everybody can make a cd now in their bedroom. put it on itunes by themselves. it used to be that you had to have this machine behind you. how do you sift through all of this noise? yours is a beautiful

noise and this project, everybody and their mom is on there. i'm not on it, but everybody else. you've got great people. low, russnauer, chuck freeman. good lord. nathan east. >> i basically called everybody. this album is to celebrate my 20 years making music and is a remake of my first album. that first record i made when i was in college. basically, it was me in the bedroom and that is how i made that one. that was the beginning of the new technology where you could make records in your bedroom.

it wasn't the greatest production so i always wanted to go back and redo it with the greatest people in the world. tavis: the production is infinitely better, but what about the content. you as excited to revisit the material 20 years ago? does it hold up? >> that is why wanted to redo it because the songs were so interesting and not jaded by the industry. so to go back and revisit these songs with the great players was what was exciting to me because they brought this life out of these songs that i never had initially. i was trying to program the john's -- the drums on a drama seem to try to sound like this particular drummer from the yellowjackets. and now i call will to play on this version so he is playing

what i was trying to do and it is blowing my mind a little bit. tavis: i guess you got the sound you wanted. when you hear these tracks 20 years later with this production , it sounds better. but do any of these songs you in a different way? >> it did because you are thinking of the last 20 years and how you have grown as a person and how the world has changed. these songs are now that old. you can't help but get nostalgic. is called latest cd another long night out. and for you fans, you're in for a treat because he came by not just to talk but to play for us. off of thisto play new project.

congratulations on your 20th anniversary and thank you for the good music. i will get out-of-the-way and let brian do. thanks for watching and as always, keep the faith. and untiln culbertson next time, keep the faith. ♪ ♪

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