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group, the american original, for over three decades the sharpest minds best sources and hardest talk. >> issue one, u.s. versus isis. >> the president is seeking to implement a strategy that has shown some success in coup ban 90 and inside syria. just over the weekend he was taken off the battlefield. the president feels strongly that the very significant problems that are faced by people in syria, for example, are not problems that the united states is going to come in and solve for them. we won't impose a solution on
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syria and won't commit billions of dollars and the lives of our -- of hundreds of thousands of men and woman in uniform to try to solve those problems. >> president obama's strategy against the islamic state also known as isis and isil is attracting new scrutiny. they have seized ramadi, the capital of the western province and the ancient city of palmyra syria. this gives the state near dominance of the major arterial highway all the way to iraq's capital baghdad. eight months ago president obama began his campaign against the islamic state, but today iraqi forces are retreating and the iraqi prime minister is being forced to rely upon iran-linked shia militias to fight.
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militias detested by sunnis and the islamic state is spreading, and now has armed supports and nations including afghanistan, indonesia, libya, pakistan the philippines, nigeria, tunisia and yemen. many europeans have returned home to plot attacks. still the white house insists patience is the key. >> are we going to light our hair on fire every time there assetback in the campaign against isil or take very seriously or responsibility to evaluate those areas where we succeed. president obama's strategy is based on first beating isis on iraq and dealing with it in syria. why is isis still gaining ground
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in iraq? pat buchanan. >> let's talk about the obama strategy. he has done for syria. in iraq the policy of barack obama is failing and it is failing quite clearly because the iraqi government and army is simply insufficient to defend ramadi or take back mosul in and of itself. they have to rely on the only forces it can. but that would be a victory for iran. my feeling here is there is going to be a push and i hope the republicans don't get in on it to put american troops in there to take back ramadi and tpa hraourb i can't or mosul and lead the battle in there and that will be a great battle inside the united states. let me just say this. the next two years will be the battle inside the republican
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party. >> the president is right to say this is not america's fight, this is the fight of the people in the region and u.s. forces will assist the forces on the ground there. problem is that the sectarian divisions run strong and general dempsey said the iraqi army,there. problem is that the sectarian they did not get exspelled from ra misdemeanor i did but drove out of ramadi. they were not going to put their lives at risk to save the sunni population. so we're forced to face them. i think there will be more air strikes although it's streubgy they are directed by they did notairan. but the president is right to show restraint. they won't go in to either of these numbers and the fall is defeat for anssad.
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>> we're not talking about a reenvision but we look at the map at the moment. where does isis control now? they control ramadi and palmyra and then down on the border with iraq and then along to ramadi and to baghdad. they have a huge territory. the reason i say we need special forces in limited numbers to do air controlling why they're limited air strikes because we don't know where they are. the reason i would disagree is that the problem is their problems are our problems because absent our interlocutory power bringing moderate powers together, they resort to the streams. the sheer militias will start executing sunnis and driving them into isis so you have two fringes. they're pitting against each other and it ends in europe and eventually ends up here and
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destabilizes the world. >> we have very important allies in that part of the world and they've been there for a long time sawedudi arabia and emirates and egypt. they're up in arms. without american support that might go to the radical parts of the community and that would be a disaster. let me -- >> why don't they volunteer troops and send they will. they're all waiting for the americans to come and fight their war and it is not primarily america's war but their war. >> but it's in our interest to make sure the radicals do not take over. >> there are radicals on both sides. >> there is a lot of anti-american sentiment on the ground there and sending in troops in great numbers would be -- i agree with you that they need people to control the air strikes. the fact that the sunni
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provincial counsel requested the shiite militias to come in opens the door for the administration to work with them. >> obama has been upset. >> they're sending anti-tank equipment now. >> obama famously dismissed isis in early 2014. is he still underestimating the threat from isis? >> the administration from the president to the pentagon to the state department all underestimated the strengths of isis and in taking over ramadi they had 30 attacks by vehicles and ten of them were at the strength of what happened in oklahoma city and this country a number of years ago. so they have resources and they have fighters coming from 100 countries around the world. so i think it's really shocking
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to the administration how this has gotten. so through social media launches them into a whole other world. >> is obama losing the war against isis, yes or no? >> u.s. strategy is not succeeding and we have none for syria. >> it's a policy of containment and not a policy of victory. >> what do you think? >> well the container is overflowing with chaos. >> we are going to be pushed out of large parts of the world and lose our allies and have a huge effect over the next couple of decades. >> he needs a new national security team. >> issue two, failing the fallen. >> first time i kept going and
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trying to get rid of it it. and then i just felt more concentrated on the pain than i was from the cut than anything else so then, i just -- i was thinking about ending it right there, but i don't know. if i would have been more -- if i would have had the means i probably would have taken my life. >> that was sergeant blanco of the 104st air assault division of the u.s. army. sergeant blanco engaged in a period of alcohol abuse and self-harm harmand actively considered suicide. but his suffering is far from unique. in 2013 the number of active military personnel who committed suicide grew to 286.
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there are many reasons for military and/or veteran suicide and the recent study conducted by dr. mark reger and published by jama psychiatry, blaming suicide on deployment is not fair. dr. reger's study found of the 5041 military suicides in an eight year span between october 2001 and december 2009 an estimated 23% of suicides were by service members who had deployed. 77% of suicides were by service members who had not. one major problem is that service personnel worry they'll be shunned or blacklisted if they request psychiatric assistance. sergeant blanco explains. >> i was trying to hide it from my fellow soldiers. i didn't want them to think i was just like awkward. i didn't want to have any -- how
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do you say? i didn't want to be singled out in other words so i just kept my mouth shut. >> but there is hope. the stigma of posttraumatic stress are fading. leadership also matters. blanco explains that his sergeant's support helped him to get better. >> at least now i can be like, okay, fading. leadership also matters. i can go on. and things will get better eventually. >> question, bearing in mind that approximately 22 veterans commit suicide every day, what we must do to reduce veteran and military suicide as memorial day is here? >> i don't have an answer to that because this is a very serious matter for a lot of these people. i can think when people go to
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war and they see their own colleagues being injury to deal with this every day you get to be a little bit depressed about it and there's no way of getting away from that kind of experience in war. but i don't have any solutions to that. >> this is a reminder though when people talk cavalierly why don't we just send 10,000 soldiers over to the middle east, we're not only talking about the cost on the battlefield but those that extend for decades later. the army is getting more sophisticated about this and more mental health personnel in the field and trying to reduce the stigma this young man talked about and this is a new phrase that's been added called mental wounds and they can be every bit as significant or more than physical wounds that you can see. >> suicide is the 10th leading cause of death in the united states but second to those who are 18-24.
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and women attempt suicide more often, men commit four out of five and the major reason you get into it and could have to do with the military is depression of the individuals because of relationships that have gone wrong and because they get away from their friends and band of brothers and platoon and company and they go back to their districts and they're all alone. so i think -- there's a lot of things wrong here, but it's not simply the military. >> it's not just about tours but leadership as well. lieutenants know forget your guys or girls have a problem they can talk to you and engage. my grandfather was a marine and he went to war at 19. war is horrific. i think we need to be more aggressive in iraq but it's easy for me to say.
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we need to have a system that there is -- if people want to seek ptsd help they can get it quickly and effectively and this is one then we can agree whatever that costs, we pay it. >> pat buchanan. >> i think i'm sure there are people making an outstanding effort and maybe who aren't, so i give them a b. >> i would agree with that. >> what do you think? >> i think it's tkeultdifficult to figure out how to deal with people who are young and terrible environment and in the midst of a war. this is goning to be an easy solution easily solved problem. >> i would say it's a b and now to a c+. a lot more to be done and a lot more to be done. >> it's a b minus. >> issue three, high hacking. >> you look at the servers that are serving the in flight
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entertainment as well as the cabin control stems it's imbedded architecture because of how f. a. a. doesn't allow rapid upgrades sitting way behind the cuff. number two, put better separation in place and number three, the box under the seat you might want to protect that or make the whole thing not quite so hard wired in. >> last week a canadian news outlet released an fbi search warrant from april 17th. the warrant pertained to computer expert chris robbins in response to a tweet he posted while on april 15th, united airlines flight from chicago to syracuse. "find myself on a 737, 800, let's see, box ifeic -- shall we start playing with messages?
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pass oxygen on anyone? his insinuation that he could control the plane's emergency messaging system. on a different passenger flight mr. robbins "successfully commanded the system and had access to issue the clb climb command and stated he caused one of the airplane engines to climb resulting in the lateral or sideways movement of the plane. yes you heard that right. the fbi claims that mr. robbins made a plane fly sideways. he has hacked 15-20 flights between 2011 and 2014. here's how they describe the claims. "he obtained physical access to
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the new works through the seb. these are installed two to a row. after removing the cupboard by wiggling and skwaoeding squeezing the box he entered an internet cable to the box and the laptop and default id's and passwords to gain access. once on that network he was able to gain access to other stems on the planes. >> is hi hacking a serious threat? >> i think it's serious. it shows complacency but the ignorance in terms of airlines and their security with these seats back. that a guy was able to hack in? no. will they improve it?
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yes. it's a good example once that would only exist in a hollywood movie exists in real life. >> i think is clients were questioned and doth he did anything on these. if there is a problem in the system they on the to get some experts not necessarily him and it can be fix. steve: are you going to -- >> are you going to be looking at your seat? >> i'm going to keep the guy in front of me 42 pushing his seat back. >> this guy's revealed and exposed a real vulnerability of airlineers. because it's a technical thing, the airlines and federal authorities can do something to block that if they have to and take the entertainment boxes out rather than let someone fool under there and steal the plain.
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praeupb t plane. >> they can take remote control of automobiles. isn't it inive etable that someone wail try to hack an air aircraft aircraft. >> without question. doesn't mean we'll all be comfortable with it. people will be able to play with whatever it is, and it can effect the entire flight. >> what posed the most threat? >> i think civilian drones if you look at what's happening with the white house and capital. that's going to continue to be an issue. we talked about different episode we to have been esstatute to this. cyber security is a good industry to get into. still is and still will be. >> remember when they talked
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about the use of drones because it kept americans and american lives safe and therefore he favored very strongly drone usage. >> >> there's blowback to every development. i'm more fearful of these drones and afraid somebody fooling around with one of these things will run them into an airliner when it's landing and then we're all going to address that problem. >> have you ever had a drone deliver anything to your house? >> i've seen a couple of guys at the door i thought were drones. >> i think they ought to take a look at them. >> until it can be proven that they're invulnerable to hacking. >> i'd take a look at it but it is they can make it safe.
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>> he said yes. i say yeses well but they can fix it quickly. >> oh, yes absolutely. i'm with them all the way. issue four, amtrak tragedy. >> we suffered a tprapblg eddie here in our city. seven people have died as a result of a train derailment which is a very unusual event. i don't believe that anyone sitting here standing here today has any memory of a derailment of this kind in 50 years. eight amtrak passengers were killed and over 200 others injured when their amtrak train derailed in philadelphia. the train was on the busy north corridor route from washington, d.c. to new york cities and the crash occurred due to the train's excessive speed reportedly 106 miles per hour on
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entering a turn. they're assessing whether the engineer was using his cell phone at the time of the crash. still, according to transport expert the control system currently being ruled out would likely have prevented the crash. >> if it turns out to be one or both of those causes, it would absolutely have prevented this accident. >> unfortunately, they had not been introduced at the location of the crash. oddly, the day after the crash the republican control house transport committee cut $251 million from amtrak's funding. this sparked a fierce battle in congress with democrats accusing the g.o.p. of playing games with public safety. >> what is the current status of the derailment of the train number 188 and what do you think
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of congress's behayier on this? >> the status in the investigation is they're looking whether the engineer was on his cell phone but it takes time. i actually as surprising as it sounds i have sympathy because a lot of the routes are unprofitable and there is an infrastructure problem in this country. it only work in terms of the northeast corridor if it's high speed rail. but amtrak a lot of the routes are not used enough and costs a lot of money. it's taxpayers and family whose have to pay for that. we need reform. >> the northeast corridor is very profitable. what is costing money is from places in the middle of the country that are not well travelled that are represented by republicans who want to keep those routes going and i think that's fine. i don't think there are any public transportation stems
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around the world that aren't subsidized in some way by government. you need $500 million to fully implement they appropriate 50 million. all of this saving money, not spending money when interest rates are so low, it is a crime that we have not rebuilt the infrastructure in this country during this period when interest rates are virtually negative. >> this appears to be human error. the 106 miles an hour we've seen human error this spring in the pirates cab taking on airliner. the sooner we move to pilot this aircraft and in trains when you have cars that can drive themselves and stop themselves that train could not go for more than 55 miles an hour. the sooner you get the people out and the rest of the people in the rest for security and
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safety. kwrls you're hacker. which is more probable to you if this was a lack of funding by amtrak or that the cause was delay and rolling out new safety stems because of regulatory red tape as the ceo maintains. >> i'm not familiar enough with the regulations as to why it was delayed. this is something that must be put in. where the technology can reduce the speed of the train. they have new technologies to protect against it. >> the deadline is the end of the year. one of the problems of installing it you have to have the equipment talk to all the
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other equipment in another trains that use those tracks and that's an easy or inexpensive effort. >> mentioned the six baltimore cops produced a police strike and murders are newspaper that west baltimore area by 150%. i think you'll have a real crisis in baltimore this summer. >> rand paul bolstered his presidential campaign with 10.5 hour speech against the patriot act but i don't think he'll be able to expand it. >> any of your viewers look on the map and you can see it's controlling the line of materialization. >> mort? mort. . i think it's going to be interesting to sew how they begin to seek to work with eyes yell in order to protect themselves from isis. >> this memorial day gives us a chance to give saints silent
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