>> from washington, "the mclaughlin group" the american for over three decades the sharpest minds, best talk.s, hardest john: issue one. vapes. e-cigarettes are battery a mix d devices that use of nicotine and other chemicals inhaleable vapor. f.d.a. has just announced new e-cigarettes as ell as cigars and hookah pipes affecting underaged buyers, manufacturing, marketing and labeling. protection from the dangers of addiction nicotine

is a public health priority but he f.d.a. has not banned selling designs or flavored to kids tes attractive like hello-kitty-tooty-fruity, candy, or cotton gummy bears vap gummy bears vapors. vaping oolers e-cigarettes increased usage by between 2011 and 2015. roponents of e-cigarettes say the regulations will increase ingchase costs thus discourag and there ng to quit is evidence that e-cigarettes than % less harmful combustible cigarettes. question. -- this good news news, pat buchanan? pat: no, john. in high school 13 to 14 almost everybody smoked cigarettes then. lounge. a smoking

the annual meeting at gonzaga high school is known as the smoker. jesuit high school. pat: jesuit high school right down the street. clearly this is a health hazard. smoking a directly related to emphysema and heart disease and to shortened live and the he rest of it country ought to be given enormous amounts of information e-cigarettes d which clarence is into, it is his rotten habit and he will ought to get ou all the information you can. at some point the government has is,tep back and say here it this is as far as we go, now you are a mature, even young people, mature, it is up to you in a free society to decide. eleanor: i guess the government steps in to interrupt the smoker's lounge that you grew up was entirely at appropriate. e-cigarettes form a useful people who are mokers because they are less

lethal than tobacco. they ds buy them and contain nicotine. so you are creating a generation going to be re addicted to nicotine and robably will graduate to smoking tobacco. also, who is making these e-cigarett e-cigarettes? tobacco companies are as they diversified their product. entirely is appropriate for the f.d.a. to step in with regulations here. how many lives a year are lost by smoking? we addressed that. 480,000 according to the c.d.c. nd i appreciate your giving me prior guidance on that statistic. john: how many were lost last year? 480,000. john: that many last year? om: and the other statistic $156 billion in productivity losses. so i'm grateful that one time testing i got a hand up. a look, you do not want

situation in which young teenagers are smoking nicotine. that is not good. to some degree it is more than the f.d.a. comes in and puts in terms of ions you have to be 18 to buy. but on the flip side if you see -- i mean, the productivity impact that this increasingn terms of cost on production that means for the vast majority of older be more expensive and things like packaging, specific requirements, those impose costs but hey also, i think, put that sort of punitive tax in terms of the industry developing a free t and impinging on choices of individuals. i think a more balanced approach could be taken but unfortunately f.d.a. has again fully to one side. john: held on for a minute, clarence. sure.ce: john: do we need to ban television advertising on e-cigarettes? clarence: i can't say it already s because i have seen some

advertising on television, not usedy as much as i saoufrd to see of cigarette advertising. ban them with me to for young people under age 18. of smokers ke 81% start as teenagers like i did to.h you are referring what troubles me of course is that you have a lot of kids who ave never smoked before but is a re vaping because it craze and we don't really know how many of them will stay with it long enough to be addicted to nicotine. that is my trouble now. i'm not smoking any more but i'm still addicted to nicotine so that is why i will get nicotine vapes. pat: you talked about the money lost from early death and all of it and all of us have friends who died of cancer r heart disease directly related to two packs a day. but the truth is that folks who frankly die less expense civil two society -- to society than

those who live long on medicare. the economic numbers about how much it cost society are a little phony. leanor: do you want to go before the death panels and make the case it is better to have eople dying because it will save money? that is a hard argument to make. die.we are all going to but if we die at 90 the last six a lot will cost society more than those at 50. eleanor: that is not an for even argument tobacco. -- take l particular it to the next step and kill off family. john: the new regulations for are some 400 pages long. what impact will they have on manufacturers? i ask you. pat: it will make it much more xpensive to buy cigars and things like that. the more regulations you put, ou put it on the cost of the

manufacturer and he transfers the cost to the customer. cigars mainly working class pay more for like for what they enjoy clarence. you enjoy it and you can afford it. you have to stop with the regulations. eleanor: you want less of it you ave to tax it more and have regulations. my father died of cancer and he smoked cigars. as lethal.st pat: you are pricing working class people out of the market afford his ce can e-cigarettes. clarence: that's a big reason americahas gone down in because of all the taxation. and at the same time though like eleanor said, tobacco companies re covering their losses by encouraging e-cigarettes. pat: everybody knows alcohol live.ns the problem with it you can kill a ebody else when you are in car and will too much but you tax it and that has a problem with it as well. going to stop that?

eleanor: look at economic unquality in this country and to start other places than the fact poorer people alcohol.t pat: don't go into your bernie sanders routine. look at campbell construction of property versus taxes. matter.ons eleanor: some behaviors we want to encourage and some you want discourage. these are public health issues and the regulations should discourage them. is the obama administration on a regulatory binge? tom: yes. pat: this is de blasio squared. of course he is. eleanor: if a complicated society you need to protect the public. requires regulations. it is not a binge. it is appropriate. remember under the bush administration they deregulated aviation too far and regulations back in. there are a reason for regulations. what is most

appropriate but i feel like stop smoke again. regulatory obstacles and has to be the great example for conservatives to take the state level and federal n terms of looking at the punitive impact and that is why you want to repeal it. there : i don't think won't be a conservative campaign against threes. tom: broadly. pat: you don't know donald trump. how nce: we will see president trump feels about this figure of quote the number lives loss. tom did. john: what did he say? tom: 480,000. in america is going to die and some will die earlier and if they do it is terms of economics it is less expensive. clarence: i'm not sure because

the last months of life are most old.nsive no matter how pat: for old folks it goes on. you are on plead care for decades. stkpwhra whether you smoke or not. pat: exactly. tom: one other thing we talked about the undercurrent that flows is unfortunately there's not enough personal responsibility. arents should be paying more attention what their kids are doing. ground them. clarence: i will check in on you. clarence, i don't have enough experience but my generation one big problem is use not so much in d.c. because of security learances but in other cities in terms of cocaine that it is fashionable. the problem is yes, it should be illegal but there needs to be ore of a public campaign as to millennials as to whether the drugs are coming from and abuses and corruption and political destruction. clarence: you have to be very you advertise to

millennial kpwr millennials. a lot of early anti-smoking commercials encouraged them. reason you have terrorists and criminals and artels is because you outlaw cocaine. if you didn't, you would have guys down the street selling it. is the question. pat: it is the libertarians that would argue that. it is something we have to consider but you look at are stics that on drugs more predisposed to commit crime so there's a public protection element. is pretty far afield from vaping. clarence: we have problem now with prescription drugs leading consumption. the same impact but cheaper. it cuts both ways. question.c hould congress over tuturn this regulatory over reareach?

yes or no? can't do anything i don't think without a president. eleanor: we do have a president but the answer is no regardless f who the president is and we do have a president. tom: it should be illegal until but they should overturn the majority of it. larence: i don't see any sympathy for the nicotine producers. some of the most hated people around. gun ps worse than the industry. so i don't think this is overreach. think the government is smoking.o discourage john: my question, congress or the president? pat: congress. clarence: both. john: congress or the president. ask?nce: what did you john: rein in the f.d.a. at: you would have to have a president who would degree with what congress did and we don't have that president. new york e two,

rotten? >> i believe in the justice nation and we will pursue whatever remedy the system has. john: to many it is america's beacon state, energetic. diverse, tough but new york face s problem, corruption former speaker of the new york assembly to don silver was sentenced 12 years after being found guilty on federal corruption charges. e is only the tip of the iceberg. investigators are under way against two individuals with links to governor andrew cuomo and his so-called buffalo billion plan to revitalize the city of buffalo. at least three prosecutors are investigating new york mayor for possible campaign finance misconduct and nypd his, a number of police officers are under investigation for potential of gun licenses

and other nypd officers are for possiblygation providing favors to city gifts.ts in return for question. of rding to gallup 75% americans think corruption in government is widespread. are they right? eleanor? leanor: first of all, you are conflating some very different scandals in new york. -- led condition silver sheldon silver was taking and shouldor decades go to jail. campaign finance violations mayor is a lot different. you can go to almost every state country clarence's home state of illinois has had a lot of experience with corruption. i'm sorry. eleanor: in alabama today a couple of officials are indicted. what the american people are worked up about. they are worked up about the corruption you see from the michigan when you

flint.a water crisis in people are worked up when they look at a congress that doesn't perform. angry at washington. maybe in these individual states populations, angry but corruption unfortunately has been part of politics for a long time. i don't think it is going up. and i would point out that had a nt obama has scandal-free eight years. role modeln absolute in terms of how a public official should conduct himself. is corrupt,vernment americans believe, some, has 10% under barack oba obama. is that a coincidence? then you have bernanke's wall treet bailout, the massive waste on subsidies like sill lin tkra. anger over internal interests is building. tkpwhra you are talking about

perception as opposed to actual corruption. there's a big difference. that the hink government more corrupt because they have more media now and more access to information, good.is that is the result of transparency which i would reduced corruption. pat: you take government, state, ederal, municipal, we probably spend $6 trillion a year. some of it will get stuck to hands.n people's that has been endemocrat for a long time. endemocrat. over legislation and overregulation take campaign finance laws. in politics for years. it didn't exist back there when 1960's kennedy, johnson, nixon. couldmuch 10,000 ways you violate those wise not even knowing what you are doing and making a mistake. mcdonald the governor of virginia apparently had a buddy who gave him a watch and stuff the guy and or for all of a sudden he is in jail. things that were normal are now

criminal. clarence: the thing about had been hat activity legal for so long and that gray other d it is illegal in states. again, what do we mean by corruption? mcdonaldmaybe governor shouldn't be behind bars for a he de but to portray what did as just taking a watch and then he was indicted, he took thousands dollars for a personal use and i don't think taxpayers liked that. tom: the unique thing about the united states is if you looat for example new york city city in the world i would say that but moscow, can ou imagine the corruption in moscow. the corruption in london, paris less eater and far scrutiny in terms of plead why because there's a lack of ability. pat: was your prime minister's ather found to have an account in the panama papers? tom: i'm a american. of nypd internal

affairs, f.b.i. there is the opportunity but wherever it outrages and i think the juxtaposition is young and 19-year-old oldier, female, male, and the person in congress who makes an ver the is where it becomes foul and requires robust. ohn: scandals like the i.r.s. targeting of conservatives and justice department operation played a role?s leftthat is an ideological wing separation going after the right and obviously when the get in i'm sure they will respond. when you have this much money and that much access somebody will have sticky fingers. that is is why we need more transparency so people know what on.going pat: you mentioned media. and ve 24-hour media

10-year-olds doing research and putting it on the day. it is not a twice a day newspaper. one point. john: excuse me. exit question. by lying to americans about health le to keep their insurance to get his legislation assed, did president obama contribute to distrust of washington? pat: he contributed to distrust of himself. contributed to distrust of himself but not of government, john. larence: a lot of people have kept their health insurance and that is better than -- talking k what awawe are about. i think it explains why confidence in democracy is rapidly. eleanor: the president delivered a pledge to expand health insurance for a lot of people didn't have it.

there much mistakes made along the way, yes. is historic roduct and something -- made.istakes were eleanor: mistakes were made but very few people actually lost health care. tom: what pat says is the trust. john: didn't you say something to me outside in connection with the like the greeks say fish rots from the head down? tom: i will take it. say it but i will take. to bring that back to chicago? john: issue three. olympics. >> like prince harry i'm so all of ly inspired by y you. i'm inspired by your courage, by love of country. john: gathering in orlando, military unded u.s. and veterans and their allied ounterparts competed at the

2016 invictus games. 2014 by britain's wales also known as prince harry, the games is a sicking event for wounded, or ill active duty personnel and veterans. include paralympic track wheelchair wimming, basketball and tennis and triathlon. from ear warrior athletes 15 nations including australia, britain, canada, iraq and new ia, zeala zealand. games have ctus another purpose long side sporting competition. bringing attention to the faced by wounded warriors and their families and caregiverer efforts to support them. question. us? does orlando show

i ask you, clarence? shows us what skill, stamina and determination can courageous e very and terrific wounded warriors. nd how the rest of us can show our appreciation. eleanor: i'm thinking prince harry's mother must be looking above.om she was so involved in going after all the land mines and all over the war torn areas and playboy l a kind of a reputation not so long ago so he is matured and i think this a wonderful thing he is doing. nd i give a shout out to michelle obama and jill biden who have worked over the last behalf of on veterans causes because there's a lot of need out there as those us.es showed pat: i think harry was a .elicopter pilot in afghanistan t really shows the old british tradition going all the way b k

back. royalty fights alongside the troops. was in thence andrew falkland islands when they took them back. it is a great tradition and this young guy who has been into a antics and clown acts out in las vegas is doing a wonderful thing here. something else, john. you see these fellas, we save so wounded and injured in combat. i think world war ii one died and two were saved. with the helicopters coming removing, you s save a lot more folks and you take lot more folks to care of. eleanor: thanks to a lot of government regulations people all kinds of disabilities are not hidden away. part re out and very much of life. i think throws games show it. om: a lot of it is military culture.

you have predominantly young men and young women who served in front lines courageously. but showing those individuals who serve the country just serious hey have had a injury and been wounded seriously psychologically or physically nothing is over. it is a change and that warrior hypercompetitive. it is not a fun game smiling. they want to win. t is making that reality important and showing people that their path going forward country values them in tangible ways. ohn: you couldn't be more right. what motivated prince harry to wasme involved in the games that after sharing a helicopter ride with three seriously returning from afghanistan he felt a sense of calling to and participate in their recovery. pat: i think that is why i'm sure a lot of vets admire him with e he went out there

him. tom: i believe they admire him for his las vegas antics. clarence: he's redeemed himself after all that. both ends much the spectrum. clarence: i used to live near hospital and when in wantsor i would run to get back into service and it doesn't stop. that is a great lesson. john: i have been there. i know what you are talking about. invictus ion do the questions achieve their purpose. pat: yes, eleanor: yes. clarence: keep doing it. john: pat: the conflict between the states, china and philippines over the islands in deep uth china sea will and i think it will come one of these days it shooting. 40% nor: george w. bush got of the hispanic vote. mitt roll any got 27%. donald trump will be lucky to laugh half of what politic rol

any got which will doom him in november. i think the debate over obama care will be a tough one for hillary clinton coming up to because itcreasingly is an economic touchstone issue and i would say it poses issues inequality that are troubling. clarence: i predict that vaping because it is just too good to last. john: really? yes.nce: they will find something wrong with it. we will check that. i predict gold will boom in this year as investors come to realize that central including orld over our ownederal reserve have no to return the economy to normal. bye-bye!

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