don't hold a five-run lead with the balance of your bullpen, can bring him in later, oh, well. he's asked the question, tomorrow, that means he won. >> joe: here is the 2-2, davis takes over at center. outside. again, the cubs had a runner at second, fifth inning, didn't score, two on with no the top of the seventh inning, and didn't add to a five-run lead. that played a role in bringing chapman in in the seventh inning as well. that is ball four. >> john: like you mentioned, i think the two-out walk by arrieta has made all of these moves even possible. the two-out walk, for whatever reason, the history of what arrieta has been, they did not want to create any more opportunities.

francona to take crisp and naquin out and put in two right-handers. that's what we have is the scenario right now, cubs up five, looks like chapman, and must they score a bunch more, is going to pitch at least the next inning. >> joe: heyward now. and what has become evident in this world series, the balance in the starting pitching goes to chicago and their the bullpen, no comparison, the three big arms that terry francona has, the couple of guys that joe maddon trusts. obviously, the lights out aroldis chapman. maddon trusts mike montgomery. and everybody else, you just

and all have been good for long stretches this season. up and away, 2-0. ken rosenthal is with us. get your opinion. were you surprised to see chapman come in in the bottom of the seventh? >> ken: very surprised. let's face it. despite the situation at the time, the chances of the cubs winning are still excellent. my question is, how long will he go? or will they look to someone else? >> joe: double play ball off the back of heyward, second, down to max got them both. with two out, nobody on, batter will be baez. tom verducci, what did you think? >> tom: 's price. think about this, if we get to game seven, joe maddon can cover

hendricks, john lackey, i think even if maddon chapman cs game, available for one or two outs tomorrow. >> john: i think he is going to be available for more, but i don't think you and bring him into this game if you don't anticipate him finishing it. he is in for the foreseeable future of this game. two innings and a third, limit and get quick outs. if you are the indians you're not going to win, to haven pitch 2 1/3 innings, got to feel great with your ace on the moun mound, three guys said to come in as early as the third or fourth inning. this really, in my mind, shortens up the game and the window for the cubs to get the lead. tomorrow, more than ever. because we've seen what terry francona has done with his weapons. i believe it is chapman to finish. >> joe: advantage, cleveland,

that is strike three, and the inning is over. clevinger gets around the leadoff walk. bottom of the eighth inning rolls in, napoli, ramirez, chisenhall coming up for chapman and the cubs. ?? ?? ?? ?? ??

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>> joe: first first pitch, up and away, mike napoli. napoli, ramirez, chisenhall against aroldis chapman who has still been gimpy, limped out of to the mound a bit. players a strike, nice to be gimpy and throw 100 miles per hour. four pitches thrown for chapman. cubs are hopeful he can be economical with the pitch count here in game six. sizzling in for strike two. >> john: what he did in game 5 was pretty remarkable, says he doesn't do that a lot. got to believe his stock went up because he's a free agent.

multiple innings. >> joe: napoli went around, a strikeout to start the eighth. >> john: and it is, i think, exactly like looking at a stock that is rising and falling throughout october. there are a couple of times where chapman's stock may have taken a hit, but it was when he came into games with men on, and unclean inning, to has had the bases clear behind him, he is unhittable. >> joe: jose ramirez, 0-1. an 8-out save for chapman in game 5. not a safe opportunity tonight. up by 5, looking for seven outs,

now a pitch called high per game two, 2-1. in the center for a big hit, one on, one out. and yan gomes will come off the bench and bat for chisenhall. >> john: this is what you need him to do, this is what the indians are getting a chance to do, see more and more of

>> joe: to give you a little historical perspective, if chapman were to finish this game tonight, the last pitcher to have two seven plus outings, bruce suter of the st. louis cardinals in 1982, master of the split finger pitch. gomes, strike two. game three, went 2 1/3, got the save against gomes is zero for mexico this postseason. both at-bats coming in the world series. one ball one , one strike. for chapman, the more strikes he throws, the better, because he

get out of this game with 30 pitches or less, two innings and a third, much more doable for action tomorrow night. you hit the 40-pitch mark, you're asking a lot. he will pitch tomorrow if there is a game 7, no matter how many pitches he throws, that is what i am sure of. but the effectiveness is in question. how sharp, how fastball versus generated lower leg velocity. there is a big difference. >> joe: two balls and a strike now on gomes. 2-2. >> john: i never claimed to have even close to the body that mr. chapman has, can only speak to my experience of pitching three innings in an elimination

i just knew i was going to fake that i wasn't tired. it takes its toll. you have the adrenaline and brush and you prepare and you flush your body the next day, but to think it doesn't have a toll on somebody who has never done it before. >> joe: broken bat, 92. at second, baez! unli baez as he took in -- javier baez as he takes an errant pass, takes a load of aroldis chapman. circle bat, baez with good glove work again, a magician at second base.

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but francona more than happy to have those three untouched, ready for a potential game 7. the 1-2. to the right side for kipnis. fowler, a hitless night. boy, it has been fun, john, to watch javier baez do what he has done all postseason around second base. >> john: uc russell got the palm, that is a huge play because, as he mentioned, that resets the pitch count for chapman, that double play. seeing it from the first base camp, i'm assuming, right there. i go back to the first inning and how it changed all of the strategy for terry francona. 1-0 going into the third period when tomlin gets in trouble, he is using a different formula

different point. of course, once the bases were loaded and he brought in a reliever and the grand slam took it to this point. >> joe: here is a high fly ball into center. back on the track, davis, two out. >> john: this would have ended the inning. that homer by bryant, this was an easy fly ball, but in this communication caused two runs to score, a huge momentum swing. 3-0 for the cubs. arrieta, before he even steps on the mound, has been given a three ring cushion. then it snowballs from there. and it was addison russell who hit that ball into right center who, in the third inning, hit a grand slam, he has got 12 rbis now four chicago, six of them here tonight in game 6. here is bryant, who is 3 for 4.

>> john: changes the way tomlin would pitch to certain hitters, behind, got to try to pitch-perfect. that game turned quickly for the indians in a way that it changed strategy for francona. >> joe: another hit for bryant! he has got a four hit game 6. and that is big momentum for their number three hte heading into a potential game 7. bryant, three, result, four. haven't hit in these spots since july 3rd. here's rizzo. >> john: best move that maddon made today was putting schwarber in the second spot, period. it has affected the lineup. in effect the pitcher and the

>> joe: strike one to rizzo. >> john: and the hitters are beating on them. talk about the top five. they have done their part with the exception of fowler. the sixth spot delivered six rbis because the front four in front of him gave russell the opportunity to do damage. and he did it. >> joe: rizzo into right field! this ball is out of here! 9-2. the lead us back to 7 here in the ninth inning. and we will see if that changes the strategy in the bottom of this frame. 9-2, chicago, and a big night by

and nobody is up for chicago in their bullpen. a conversation with bosio. that is inside for zobrist. i understand what tom verducci talked about, a great point with lackey is available, lester is available. talk about having two fats do something and not used to doing. lester is a guy, as we talked about an scene, has an impossible time keeping runners close. yeah, it is jon lester with his stuff, but in a tight game, how much do you trust him going in if you can't hold runners close to the base. >> john: you're totally right.

start the inning, the only he starts as if they've got a two or three-run lead. based, it is said, lackey could give you some length if you needed late or in extra innings. beauty of this game, not easy managing, and it looks like the cubs are going to fight to face a game 7 and worry about all of that as it comes about. >> joe: now bosio is on the phone. we'll see w but i think where you were going earlier is this -- zobrist takes a walk. if you don't trust the guys in the bullpen enough to get three outs before the other side gets seven, then you don't have a chance anyway. >> john: correct. >> joe: home run for rizzo to make it a seven run game again.

here is addison russell. russell with a 6-rbi night batting for the fifth time. two-run double a grand slam. two outs in the inning, zobrist 2-0 from clevinger. >> john: the other scenario that could happen as we look at these guys that we talked about in the open. my goodness. the other thing that could happen with two outs in this inning, a two-run homer, as the bullpen gets going, you have chapman go out there and get an out, give the guys plenty of time to finish. >> joe: showed end the inning.

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the mound. guyer at the plate. ball one, outside. we intended to talk to joe maddon in our postgame show, which will air on fs1 with kevin burkhart, alex rodriguez, frank thomas, pete rose. 2-0, the count on guyer. rajai davis on deck. jumped out with three in the first, four in the third, have led throughout, down by 7, swinging on a 2-0 pitch, 2-1. >> john: i would have given

>> joe: for sure. but down seven. at some point, maybe this is splitting hairs, but make chapman just keep throwing pitches? >> john: yeah. >> joe: here comes a 2-1 pitch. 3-1. a walk. we'll see if that's it. yep. that is going to be it for chapman, but it was not a short night.

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