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he nails the my jeerian accent. >> he was very bright. the revenant, leonardo dicaprio is throwing downn t t gauntlet. >> we p ourselves through the griernd on this one. we worked hard and we worked together. it was a beautiful experience attend of the day. >> she get mauled by bear in a scene that will not believe. she doesn't s through much of the movie, with his expressions, it's really amazing performance. daddy's home is the only comedy being released on christmas. will ferrell plays astepmom who
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becomes friends with the biological dad. >> good night, back scratches. >> who want 20 bucks? >> what zwl we'll be s lot of those movies during awards season. spreading holiday cheer, let's go insidee the stars back. >> there are thousands of an analysis need homes. >> scott foley is hoping to make life more comfortable for the 4 million animals in shelter across thecountry. he teamed up with the amanda foundation to find loving homes for these little ones just in time for the holidays. >> i hear you're looking for a pet. i'm always looking for a pet. we have three kids at home. we have one dog. we need a friend for frankie. love scandal. how much do you miss making out
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>> am i speaking as him or foley? >> she's married. i'm happily married. >> let's talk about jake. >> jake at times have deep makeoutsessions. >> has there ever been an embarassing moments on set? >> er the >> kerry is lying on the bed, i climb over him on to thbed. it was so uncomfortable. zblrjts children get a second shot at life and it's really incredible work they do. >> christie brinkley is also brightening up some lives. the charity helps raise funds and awareness for children faced with clef smiles. >> it's amazing. what's even more amazing herer fabulous frames. >> i snapped a picture and
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of attention. christie brinkley's fulby bikindi was full display. we were with a covered up christie in empire state building in new york when she moment. >> you guys areadorable. >> and you have to include st. hospital. >> if you have healthy children give thanks. >> give thanks. >> you have a ton celebrities onboard, how do you get involved? do you call up personally. >> yes. >> jennifer aniston ilayed her mom on "friends." . michael strahan, wonderful figure for young boys. >> oh, beautiful. >> marlo thoma telling us that
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asked her weddi guests to give the gift of life. >> others kids fight cancer. >> who helps you? >> basically, god. that's a really good thing. these are all such wonderful causes. for more information on how you can spread some holiday love and donate to these charities go to our facebook page. coming up -- can they ask michael michael's reindeer games.
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we did not see that coming. that's what you call a drop the mike moment rig there. joseph gordon lei it and seth rogen does elf on the shel the pair also starring the comedy "the night before." michael bringing his a-game. >> a-gameme i dusted off my christmas sweater? you would be ri clearly, i wasn't the only feeling the spirit of the season. gentlemen, i got the sweaters. this one is for you. this is it. >> my ugly christmas sweater was such a with the i felt they would be up for some
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>> there's the killer right there. >> i did not kill my wife. >> i'm lester holt, and this is "dateline." here's josh mankiewicz with "mystery at heath bar rm." >> i need -- i need an ambulance. now. >> reporter: february 2009, coldwater, michigan. >> what's the problem? >> my wife! >> your wife? >> yes! >> reporter: in one day, one moment -- >> is she breathing? >> no! >> she's gone! she's gone! >> reporter: the innocent, simple life tom foley and his family once lived was gone >> oh, my god. oh, my gosh. >> 27 seconds, gets it off to foley.
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foley never would have imagined 23 years earlier. back then, number 30 -- >> going to be 15 seconds left exactly. >> reporter: -- scored the winning basket giving coldwater high school the regional title and earning young tom a place in coldwater's basketball hall of fame. >> i have goose bumps right now just talking about it. >> it was like victory was snatched from the jaws of defeat, and he came through with it. >> reporter: to what extent were you sort of known around here for being the kid that hit the game-winning shot? >> that went on for a long time. you know, maybe someone might come up, "hey, tom, you remember when you hit that shot?" i said, "of course, i remember." >> reporter: in 1991 the hometown hero started dating another local standout named darlene weber. dar, as she was known, had a personality as big as her smile. >> the first time i saw her, she
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course, and she had on these lime green rec specs, so she looked a little funny. but when she took them off, i thought she was beautiful. >> reporter: it was a classic case of opposites attracting. >> i think we both went into the relationship knowing that we really loved spending time with one another. >> reporter: tom was the laid back, easy-going type. dar, an elementary school teacher, was more type a, and she didn't hide what she was thinking. >> she had opinions, and she let those be known. that's one of the reasons i loved her. i still love her today. >> reporter: still, when dar's sisters, ladonna, lynn, and marla, learned that dar and tom intended to marry, they were left scratching their heads. >> my famous saying was, there's got to be something wrong with tom for him to stay with dar. >> reporter: 'cause you couldn't do it? >> no. >> reporter: you couldn't be around somebody who was, what,
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attention? >> and telling you what to do. >> reporter: and that controlling? >> dar was not a domesticated person either. >> reporter: the foleys were married in 1994, and right from the start, dar took the lead. fair to say that she wore the pants in that house? >> i'd a probably 75%, 80% of the time she did. >> she was the breadwinner? >> yes. >> you stayed home and took care of your son? >> i did. >> reporter: heath was tom and dar's only child and the center of their lives. >> and we just loved being together. we were always together. >> reporter: and so the three foleys lived on the outskirts of coldwater in an old farmhouse they called "the heath bar farm." a picture-perfect family until that winter day back in 2009. what was the last thing you said to her? >> i said, "i love you, and i'll see you later." >> reporter: on that day, the
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celebrate heath's 10th birthday at a friend's house just down the road. dar still needed to shower, so tom, heath, and a friend of heath's left without her. the plan was for dar to follow in her own car and meet them at the party later that afternoon. but dar never arrived. that gave you some sort of sixth sense that something was wrong? >> yes. she was always on time or early to events. >> reporter: so tom left the party and headed back home in search of his wife. >> our kitchen back door was opened, and i noticed that the glass was broken, and there was glass all over our kitchen floor. so i looked through the rest of the house for her, and ended up finding her in our bathroom. >> reporter: she had been shot in the head with a shotgun at point-blank range. tom immediately called for help. >> what's the problem? >> my wife is in the shower. she's just laying there in the blood. >> reporter: first responders
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detective james karbon arrived on the scene, he knew he was in for a long night. >> we don't have a lot of homicides that happen in and around branch county, and because of her position as a schoolteacher, just for the number of people that knew her, that put it in a much more serious type investigation. >> reporter: detective karbon and his team of state troopers scoured the crime scene taking pictures and seizing evidence of what appeared to be a home burglary gone wrong. the first clue? the broken glass coming from the >> it appeared that a beer bottle was used to break that particular window. >> reporter: according to tom, jewelry and credit cards were missing. the family desk had also been disturbed and financial documents inside were gone. and then there was the medicine cabinet. >> it looked like somebody had gone in and basically scooped a shelf off of the medicine cabinet and its contents.
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drugs? >> potentially. >> reporter: but to detective karbon, the items missing weren't nearly as telling as what was left behind. expensive electronics were untouched as was dar's purse found sitting on a hallway chair. >> it just didn't make a lot of sense. >> reporter: neither did the use of a shotgun. >> it's large, potentially bulky. if you're going to break into something, you have to carry whatever you steal out with this shotgun that you brought also. >> reporter: it wasn't until the next day that police found their first significant piece of evidence, evidence that led the investigation in a whole new direction. down in the foleys' dusty basement was a suspiciously "dust-free" yellow plastic bag. what was in the bag? >> three shotgun shells. >> when we come back -- police have some questions for the grieving husband. >> we found a dunham's bag.
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>> that had some shotgun shells in it. >> okay. >> you ever seen that before? >> no. >> and so does his wife's family. >> there were a number of people who were offended by his demeanor. >> the funeral for dar foley was phil! oh no... (under his breath) hey man! hey peter. (unenthusiastic) oh... ha ha ha! joanne? is that you? it's me... you don't look a day over 70. am i right? jingle jingle. if you're peter pan, you stay young forever. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. you make me feel so young... it's what you do. you make me feel
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held on the 13th, friday the 13th. those unlucky enough to be sharing their grief over the woman they'd loved and lost poured into union city high school auditorium. no church, it turned out, was big enough to accommodate the more than 500 people who came to honor and remember dar. >> she was so full of life. and she had a lot more to give. and we can't bring her back. >> your wife's been killed, and you've got a 10-year-old son. what did you tell him? >> i told him that someone had hurt mommy, and he goes, "is she in heaven?" and i said, "yes." >> reporter: it seemed that no one in coldwater could comprehend what had happened including steve and joanie pierce, close friends of both tom and dar, who learned of thth murder from tom himself. >> i said, "the three of you
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"i know, i know. i should've been there for her." and then i said, "if you would've been, the three of you would be dead now instead of just darar >> reporter: but just 24 hours into the investigation, detective jim karbon had almost abandoned the theory that this was a random act of violence. >> it appeared to me that this was a staged breaking and entering to try to hide a homicide that took place. reporter: but according to detective karbon, whoever staged the burglary didn't factor in the weather that day. >> it got really warm. we had a huge snowmelt off. >> reporter: the ground around the farmhouse was unusually wet and muddy. so you'd expect that there would be muddy footprints from inside the residence from somebody who had come through that door? >> absolutely. >> and was there anything or any footprints? >> there was nothing. >> reporter: but it was the yellow bag found in the
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karbon the most. >> downstairs in the basement. >> okay. >> we found a dunham's bag. >> okay. >> that had some shotgun shells in it. >> okay. >> have you ever seen that before? >> no. >> reporter: now, the foleys didn't own a shotgun, as far as we know? >> that's correct. >> reporter: karbon n nt the bag to the lab for analysis, and what technicians found on the bag surprised even this veteran detective. tom's fingerprint was on the bag? >> yes. >> reporter: suddenly detective karbon felt he needed to learn and take a closer look at tom foley and his seemingly picture-perfect marriage. >> i think they did a lot of things together, however, i don't consider them the picture-perfect couple. >> reporter: neither did dar's sister lynn, in whom dar once confided. >> she said, "tom doesn't love me anymore. he's leaving me." "he's s ing through his change of life." you know -- >> his midlife crisis? >> yes.
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becoming increasingly suspicious, especially, they said, after watching tom's behavior at dar's funeral. >> it was almost like he was relieved. >> there were a number of people that came up to me after the service that were really offended by his demeanor, his joyfulness. >> these are things that i've heard, and it's ridiculous. i mean, taking care of heath was on my mind, wondering who killed my wife was on my mind. they don't know the things that i've been through. >> reporter: maybe so, but detective karbon was keeping a very watchful eye on tom foley. he decided to interview the other foley who was at the farm the day dar was killed, tom and dar's son, heath. >> heath, like i told you, i'm detective sergeant karbon. >> reporter: he said that heath and his friend skylar wattie were inside the house playing video games, waiting to be
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celebration. >> did you see anything different or out of the ordinary, or anybody walking around, anybody come up to the door, anything you can think of? >> not really. >> okay. >> reporter: the detective also interviewed skylar wattie, who said right before leaving for the party, tom sent the two boys outside to go start up the uck. >> he said that he'll be out there in a little bit. >> okay. >> so, i don't know what he was doing in there, taking a shower or what. >> reporter: like heath, skylar couldn't recall anything unusual about that day either, and then suddenly -- >> yeah, when we were outside running across the barns, there was like a big crash like way in the back of the house. >> like what did it sound like? >> like breaking glass and a bunch of things falling like maybe a vase just -- >> it was a lolo sound? >> yeah. >> reporter: detective karbon
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foley farm and asked skylar to place an "x" where he believed the sound originated. >> like somewhere around in here. >> okay. >> reporter: skylar placededhe "x" just outside the first floor bathroom, the same room where dar foley had been shot. >> it appeared to us that skylar wattie may have heard the shotgun blast that killed dar foley. >> reporter: detective karbon was also thinking this, the one other person in that house at that time was tom foley. coming up -- >> he wanted the house, he wanted her money. and if he divorced her, he lost everything. >> was that a motive?
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in this case, one articulate 10-year-old boy, came what seemed like a case-breaking revelation. >> it was like loud, loud.d. >> reporter: detective karbon believed 10-year-old skylar wattie was an ear witness to the shotgun blast that killed dar foley. if true, it meant dar was murdered earlier than originally thought. momo significantly, it meant tom foley was stililin the house when the murder occurred. >> that tead was huge. it was very, very important. >> reporter: but if tom foley was in that house and pulled the trigger, the question remained, why? the answer, said karbon, is quite simple. murder for money? >> potentially yes. >> reporter: money in the form of an insurance policy. >> i think that he wanted out of the marriage and did whatever he needed to do to make sure that happened. >> and if he got $310,000 in insurance money and got out of the marriage, so much the
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>> yes. >> reporter: the evidence against tom foley was circumstantial but compelling. you think he faked that burglary? >> yes. >> and killed his wife? >> yes. >> reporter: they never found the murder weapon. >> what do you think happened to the gun? >> i wish i knew. >> reporter: but even without it, in march of 2009, one month after dar foley was gunned down in her shower, state police arrested tom foley and charged him with his wife's murder. >> and i just, "what, how, why?" and i was like, "this cannot be happening. why do you think i did this?" i did not kill my wife. >> reporter: to tom and dar's close friends, the pierces, news of tom's arrest was almoststs stunning as the news of dar's death. >> could you conceive of tom either hating his wife so much that he wanted to kill her?
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>> never. >> or killing her for the insurance money? >> absolutely not. >> that would be stupid. she made good money.y. why kill the golden goose? >> you think they had a good marriage? >> yeah, i do. everything seemed to be going real good for them. >> reporter: it seemed sadistic, shooting your wife at point-blank range, killing the mother of your son on the very day he was celebrating his tenth birthday. >> he never would have done that to his son. >> reporter: police continued gathering evidence. ten days after tom's arrest, police brought heath foley in for a second interview, and this time heath did recall hearing a noise that day. >> when skylar talks about hearing this unusual sound, do you remembmb any of that. >> it was like maybe a gunshot maybe or maybe some like glass broke, i don't know. it was one of those two things maybe. >> reporter: according to tom, the sound heath heard was
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breaking. >> they were old barn windows that i was trying to clean up. and i went to grab them and one of them slipped out of my grip, and it smashed on our back porch steps. >> and it made a loud noise? >eah, it did. yup. >> reporter: but detective karbon wasn't buying tom's explanation. the boys were playing over by this barn? >> yes. >> and how far is that to the house? >> it's approximately 75 yards. >> mr. foley claims he was dropping a window. would that sound have penetrated that far? >> in my opinion that couldn't have happened. >> reporter: police also say they carefully searched that area around the back porch. >> there was no glass that we could see when we looked at the scene on that particular night, as well as the next day. >> reporter: for dar's sisters, the writing was by now on the wall. they were certain of their brother-in-law's guilt. >> we went over every case we could come up with to not make it tom.
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that he couldn't be a man. i think it kind of ate at him and he couldn't take it ananore. >> people get divorced for that reason. >> he didn't divorce her because he's a selfish coward. he wanted heath, he wanted the house, he wanted her money, and if he divorced her, he lost everything. >> reporter: in november 2009, tom foley's trial began. the prosecution argued that only tom had a motive to kill dar. but the defense claimed police had rushed to judgment. defense attorney tom schaeffer and defense investigator ken koberstein. >> in their r nd it's always the boyfriend or the husband. >> or the person who finds the body. >> which in this case? > was the husband and tom. >> they wanted me bad. because they -- what's easier for them to go after someone that they can actually physically see or someone they
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>> what's wrong with the idea that money was the motive? >> absolutely not. i mean, we had a mortgage. to move on after all this was gonna take a hell of a lot more than that. >> reporter: after two weeks of testimony, the jury had its verdict. >> i felt the evidence was going to prove that there's absolutely no way i had anything to do with this. >> reporter: 12 jurors didn't share that feeling. >> we the jury find the defendant guilty of first degree murder. >> i was just, "what." i was juststhocked. >> what was wrong with the juru? what do they know that i don't know? how could they convict a man on what they had? >> i knew what a conviction was meant for me. life without the possibility of parole. >> my sister is still dead- it sti didn't bring her back. but you had a little bit of faith in the justice system. >> reporter: in the hours
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everyone in coldwater was relying on faith. >> i said to myself, "god n't gonna let me go to prison for the rest of my life." something had to turn around. >> reporter: then less than 24 hours after the verdict, tom foley's defense team got a phone call from a woman -- >> this is a woman who essentially says, "i saw the murderer, and it wasn't tom foley." coming up -- >> there's the killer, right there! she saw him! >> a bombshell from out of the blue:
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his sentence. you ready to spend the rest of your life in prison? >> no, absolutely not. >> reporter: to tom foley's attorney, tom schaeffer, and his private eye, ken koberstein, the guilty verdict landed like a crushing blow. >> this was a grassroot whodunit, and we thought we had shown that it wasn't this person who had done it. >> i was devastated. when this ended, i could have walked into a wall. >> reporter: bututust one day after tom foley's coiction, a woman stepped forward. she had new information that suddenly gave new life to tom's defense. >> she came forward and said, "i saw this white car storming out of the driveway, almlmt hit me." "it looked like somebody was either high or running away from something." >> reporter: the woman was certain the driver was coming out of the heath bar farm right around the time dar was murdered, and she was equally
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nothing like tom foley. >> there's the kler right there. she saw him, the person leaving our property. >> reporter: and then like a dam breaking, two other witnesses came forward, each having seen a mysterious car of their own, either parked on the foley property or speeding away from it. all the sightings were within two hours of dar's murder. >> i mean, it was just like one after another, and i'm saying, "what is going on? where were these people before?" >> reporter: the judge who was about to sentence tom foley to life wanted to hear what these new witnesses had to say. and after a year of appeals that went all the way to the state supreme court, tom foley was granted something most people convicted of murder never receive, a second chance. >> i was walking through the chow hall in prison, and somebody says, "hey, tom, i saw you on the news." i said, "really, what for?" "well, they gave you a new
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>> i said, "what?" >> reporter: but news of a new trial didn't change the minds of dar's family. they remained d nvinced, not ly did tom kill dar, he did so on the day of his son's tenth birthday celebration. >> you think tom's cold blooded enough to do something like that to his kid? >> yes. >> i think there's evil in him. >> reporter: prosecutor terri norris agreed. >> who killed dar foley? >> tom foley. there is nobody else. >> reporter: a year and a half after tom foley's conviction both sides filed back into the courthouse to once again determine tom's fate. >> circuit court is again in session. >> thank you. >> reporter: as before, the state opened its case with crime scene analysts. >> what is it that you found in the basement? >> i found a yellow dunham's bag and located inside the dunham's bag were three shotgun shells. these are phone records. >> repororr: norris also showed the jury the foleys' home phone
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was killed. >> there were no calls that either came in or left. >> your wife doesn't show up somewhere, why not call home and say, you know, "have you left yeye where are you? we're waiting for you." >>hat's what i'd do. >> reporter: according to detective karbon, tom didn't bother calling dar at home because he knew dar was already dead. then, members of dar's family stepped forward to testify that tom and dar's marriage was troubled and that tom wanted out. >> he told me that his wife is very controlling and that it was wearing on him, and he did not necessarily want to stay in the marriage anymore. >> reporter: and there was more evidence of an unhappy marriage. according to this woman, back in 2006, tom had a wandering eye. >> please state your full name for the record and spell your last name. >> carolyn zuck. >> reporter: carey zuck taught at the same elementary school as
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"dee dee." that's how carey met tom. >> he told me that he was thinking about leaving dee dee. >> reporter: according to carey, tom also revealed he had feelings for her, and later he tried to kiss her. >> and what was your reaction to that? >> i didn't want anythininto do with it. >> reporter: the prosecution wasn't done. this woman took the stand. >> please state your full name for the record and spell your last name. >> marion victoria crandall. >> reporter: out of the presence of the jury, marion crandall told the court that, like carey zuck, she met tom through dar, and a couple of weeks after dar's murder, marion stopped by the farm to offer tom support. >> i don't mean to embarrass you but you had sex with tom in his living room? >> he tried to, and it was stopped. >> all right. who tried and who stopped?
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stopped. >> you don't have a sexual relationship with somebody within two weeks after your wife's been murdered in that house. >> reporter: but the jury never heard marion crandall's testimony because there was no indication of a romantic relationship prior to dar's murder. the judge ruled, just as he did in the first trial, that her testimony was prejudicial and, therefore, inadmissible. it was a huge blow to the prosecution's case. >> it supports the position that they weren't this deeply in love couple that he kept trying to present. that would have proven that. >> reporter: but norris still had her two key witnesses, tom's own son heath and heath's friend sklyar wattie. both two years older and now more certain than ever about what they saw and heard the day dar was killed. >> last year at church camp for one of our activities, we fired
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