wednesday, $1.3 billion. we're live with the latest. stunning secrett meeting. actor sean penn interviewed el chapo, one of the world's most wanted fugitives, still on the run. did their sit down lead to the capture of the drug lord, or was it a chance to nab him? the burning questions this morning. tackling the cold. the vikings and seahawks set to square off in one of the coldest playoff games in nfl history. the temperature not expected to climb above zero. dylan is on the field. the winner is. the red carpet rolling out for the golden globes. the glitz, glamour and few predictions. today, sunday, january 10th, 2015. >> announcer: from nbc news,

studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. >> welcome to "today" on this rainy sunday morning out there. i'm erica hill. >> i'm jeff rossen. i didn't get the powerball. i didn't win a dollar on this. garbage. >> i didn't play. i get another chance. >> sheinelle jones, you have a chance to be a billionaire. >> $1.3 billion. >> millions and millions of tickets sold, right? no winning combination. you could win if you had the powerball. we were checking this morning. 1 in 38. $4 could be yours. there's that. powerball is our top story this morning. with so much focus on it, no one waking up a winner this morning. the latotto dreams are only getting bigger. kerry has the latest. >> good morning. last night's drawing enters

there's so much money here, we're talking about $1.3 billion leading up to wednesday's draw. proof that nobody expected a jackpot this big, is look at the billboard sign over me. it doesn't have the amount of spaces for the amounts we're talking about. 1.300,000,000. yikes! >> tonight's jackpot has climbed up to a record-breaking estimated $949.8 million. for your winning powerball number, it is lucky 13 tonight. >> reporter: turning out, these weren't the lucky numbers for the millions of ticketholders who played an estimated 75% of all possible combinations on that record jackpot. again, no grand prize wiwier. meaning, powerball fever just got even hotter.

now wednesday's jackpot will be at least $1.3 billion. that's billion with a "b." >> i think it's more than i could spend, prprably. >> it's a dream. >> reporter: it's a dream that lives on for at least another three days. after what has been an absolute ticket buying frenzy in 44 states across the country. millions of tickets sold every hour. >> want to buy a lottery ticket? >> yeah! >> reporter: what does a billion dollars buy? you can getet4,000 rolls-royces to take 900 friends to disney. it seems samericans are generous. >> i will give my 1010to church first. >> share it with a lot of people. >> repororr: the other big dream many people had while waiting in line for tickets. >> wouldn't have to work

>> how much is $1.3 billion? you have your kid or your son or daughter next to you, or if you want jeff to do it, erica, and they count, one, two, three, and und every second, they'll rereh 1.3 billion in slightly more than 41 years. >> lot of money. >> sounds like a good sunday activity for the kids. >> that'll keep them busy. man of the powerball. gary from austin, texas. i assume it was a late night for you. >> good morning. we are a little bleary-eyed this morning, running on adrenaline, but we're very excited about that $1.3 billion. with a "b." it's available for next wednesday. things are exploding. >> what is astonishing to me, and all of us here, is 75% of the possible powerball combinations wererhosen as of last night.

one actually got it. so the powerball defied the weird odds of the powerball. >> we were just as surprised as everyone else. that just shows the total randomness of powerball. it just takes one ticket to win. at our peak lastnight, we werere selling morehan $1.2 million in powerball tickets every single minute. that shows how much excitement is out there for this incredible jackpot up for grabs. >> it's crazy to thing about, gary. you said this is unexpected for you, too, but in some ways, you did set yourselves up for this, once you changededhe rules and added more numbers i i october and made it harder to win. did you think you'd get to a billion dollar jackpot? >> of course not. we made those changes in october in response to our players. our players have shown that they want exciting jackpots, and they love these jackpots to roll. we made the odds of winning the

we went from 1 in1755 million to 1 in 292 million. but right out of the gate, when we made that change, we had a winner. $144 million jackpot winner was in tennessee just a month after the change was made. here we are now, 20 rolls into our next jackpot run, with $1$1 billion on thee line for wednesday night. and if players want to take the cash value, $806 million in cash. >> nothing but taxes. give me a break. >> gary, thank you. turning now to stunning news that broke overnight. word that actor sean penn interviewed the world's most wanted drug lord, el chapo, while he was on the run. the encounter released by "rolling stone" magazine. gabe gutierrez is at the prison where el chapo is once again behind bars. good morning.

it's the saga of el chapo. this is believed to be el chapo's first public interview in decades. sean penn claims he spoke to joaquin guzman months ago. >> reporter: the stunning interview with the world's most wanted drug lord posted online overnight by "rolling stone" magazine. guzman responding to questions submitted by sean penn and a mexican soap opera star. at the actors sayhey secretly met with the drug kingpin following his escape from a maximum prison last july. guzman admitted that drugs destroy but, unfortunately, where he grew up, there was no other way to survive. he says all he does is defend himself, nothing more. the videos were taken by his associates after an hours long

actors at an undisclosed location in mexico. penn said this photo was taken to authenticate the meeting. i supply moree heroin, meth methamphetamine than anyone in the world, el chapo was quoted as saying. this raised concern because the norths s authorities were in the process of trying to find el chapo. el chapo and his security team escaped, having been alerted by local residents. we reached out to sean penn, but he was unavailable for comment. it wasn't until friday morning that the mexican navy captured el chapo, following a bloody sinaloa.

make a last-ditch effort to escape. authorities are trying to extradite guzman to face charges in the u.s. the process could take months. >> guzman is going to be fighting extradition with every resource he possibly has. >> as for the piece written by sean penn, it was agreed beforehand that the final piece would be submitted to the subject before publication. "rolling stone" said el chapo made no changes. >> there were questions about whether or not this interview and sean penn may have helped find him or hurt the search. what is the thinking this morning? it did, in fact, delay things? >> well, the short answer is right now, erica, that we don't know. we're hearing conflicting information. a trusted source tells nbc news that penn's involvement may have

in october. but the mexican attorney general says it was el chapo's desire to make a movie about himself and his interaction with producers and actors that was among the leads that eventually led to his arrest. we were not able to reach sean penn for comment over night. >> thank you, gabe. the cold snap gribpping the country, but not stopping the nfl. the vikings and seahawks will have to bring the heat as they face off in what is expected to be one of the coldest playoff games in nfl history. we sent dylan there. we apologize. >> i appreciate the apology. this is all part of what i have going. it is 8 degrees below zero, one of the coldest games in nfl playoff history. could be one of the top five coldest games in the playoffs.

ice bowl, when it was 15 degrees below zero. but we should be around zero at game time. that'll be the coldest game the seahawks ever played. if it's below zero at kickoff, it'll be the second coldest game the seahawks played. i made a mistake of pointing out an article that vaseline is the trick to staying warm. you have to show off the guns when you're here on the field. especially during playoff football. how do you do it? lather up with vaseline. it blocks the wind and keeps you warmer. i'm going to say this is a load of crud because it's freezing out here. although there are some hot packs everywhere. thanks to deb weber and our wardrobe department, i have hot packs all over. it's about keeping your core warm. as for the arms, yeah, not so much. >> dylan, how about those guns? >> can weee the guns again? tickets to the gun show.

>> not so, dylan. >> makes them look bigger than they are. go ahead. >> go ahead, dylan. >> i was going to tellou how cold it is across the rest of the midwest. we have wind chill temperatures dropping into the below zero range. we'll see the wind chills around 20 to 25 degrees below zero in areas. it's going to be extremely cold, the coldest we've seen so far this season. we are looking for a high today in minneapolis of about 2. it should warm up nicely through the afafrnoon. that'll get the tailgaters warmer later on today. this cold air is coming your way. i've got the vaseline, although i threw it over my shoulder. i have you covered, guys. >> you should know, too, everybody is looking out for you in the studio. sally brought you down your mug of tea, so it's here when you get back. >> thank you. keep i i warm for me. >> get on a jacket, dylan. cover up the guns.

seahawks matchup begins at noon, here on nbc. meanwhile, a wild day of nfl playoff action on saturday. the pittsburgh steelingsers jumped to a 15-0 leadad this incredible catchy martavis bryant, pinning the ball to the back of his leg. the bengals battled back for the lead. with time running out, late penalties against the bengals put them into field goal range with seconds left. this kick right here clinched the steelers win, 18-16. chiefs ss and the texans. the chiefs dominated from the opening kickoff. running it back 106for a touchdown, as they defeated the texans in a blowout. turning to politics. the iowa caucuses are fast approaching. all eyes on donald trumps he escalates his attack on senator

chuck todd is moderator of "meet the press" and joins us. good morning. >> good morning, erica. >> i know you sat down with donald trump and asked him specifically about what would happen, should he not win the iowa caucuses. let's take a quick listen. >> i'm not leaving, nono i'm not leaving. you and i had this discussion about two months ago. i started talking about, well, maybe here or there. if this happened -- >> there's no maybes anymore. >> i'm not leaving. >> you're going straight to the convention. >> going all the way. if i don't win, i don't win. >> he's in it for the long haul. if he doesn't win iowa, how muchh a blow is that to his campaign? how does it change his strategy moving forward? >> it complicates it. it strategy now, he does very well with a certain group of voters. he and ted cruz share some of those voters. particularly, as the primary turns south, end of february,

beat cruz in iowa, they get him out of the way, and they think they'll have clear sailing in the conservative, anti-establishment lane. if cruz wins iowa, the two of them could be fighting it out all the way to the convention. the biggest take away from my interview, erica, is trump is absolutely focused on trying to engage cruz now. trying to defeat cruz now. it's why he's bringing up citizenship. he knocked him on immigration. knocked him on renewable fuel issues in iowa. he absolutely had an agenda to try to go after cruz in this interview. >> speaking of donald trump, he has been the most outspoken about bill clinton's past indiscretions, but even bernie sanders and other candidates. they're trying to knock off bill clinton from the trail for hillary. will it work? >> the way that the clinton campaign acted this week, yes. they seem reacted, they're muted. two weeks ago, they loved the

one-on-one with trump. they thought the contrast was great. then this happened and they were spooked. i think they're very nervous about this, jeff. >> so much to watch. chuck todd, thanks again and we'll catch you later on "meet the press." when you tune in for that, you'll see chuck's interview with donald trump. stay with nbc as the "today" show broadcasts from the white house on tuesday, ahead of president obama's final state of the union address. matt will sit down with the president himself. savannah will interview vice president biden. the woman nabbed in georgia is believed to be behind a string of robberies in the southeast. stealing millions of dollars worth of diamonds from jewelry stores. her face was caught on surveillance videos in five states. abigail, her crime spree in april, robbing a store also last

they believe she may be a part of a larger crime ring. we'll check back in with dylan for a broader look of the weather. >> she's not there. she's so cold, she went in to get a jacket. >> let's let her warm up a bidorenbach sunday: morning windchills: -20s/-30s. deceptive sunshine. high 7. winds w/sw 5-10 mph. your forecast brought to you by knova's carpets, siouxlands largest shaw flooring center. >> that's a check of your weather. by the way, tonight is the

we're talking abouthe golden globes. the biggest names in television and film together in one room for the 73rd annual golden globe globes. the ceremony of fan-favorites ushering in the glitz and glamour of award season. >> joe fryer is in beverlyill ws a pre with a preview. >> there is a tarp overhead, because we've seen a little drizzle this morning. viewers love this award show because it marries movie and tv stars. it's a little rowdier than your average tv award show. plus, no guarantees as to who will win. >> reporter: it's an invite list thatat would impress evenhe best of party planners. lady gaga, will smith, stillylvester stallone stallone, melissa mccarthy. there are no front runners in any major race. " "carol" has five minations.

many feel the spotlight is on "spotlight," a film about journalists uncovering the catholic abuse scandal. >> "mad max" could win. it is a very, very tight race. >> reporter: in the dramatic acting category, leonardo dicaprio was a favorite to win for his role in the "revenant." who young stars, larson and ronan are dueling for lead actress. >> i love my job. >> you hate your job. >> i love my job. >> reporter: on the comedy side, experts predict a race between "the big short" and "the martian." matt damon could win his first golden globe for acting. while amy schumer faces close competition from her pal, jennifer lawrence. >> can you imagine if amy schumer beats her friend,

golden globe? the speech would be memorable. >> reporter: the foreign press association is showing love to foreign films, like "mr. robot." >> you've been staring at a screen too long. >> reporter: netflix leads the streaming services with eight tv nods. amazon video scored five. hulu is comingo the party with itssirst golden globes nomination for "casual." >> while it is an unpredictable year, we do know who will win one award. it'll go to denzel washington, recognizing his incredible career. all eyes will be on this year's host, ricky gervais, returning after a three yr hiatus. we want to know who he will be targeting with his jokes this year. >> the smaller number of people of maybe who he's not targeting. >> maybe sean penn, i'm guessing. >> thank you, joe. nbc's coverage of the golden globes begins here at 7:00

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drunker, and more easily bought. allegedly. nothing has been proved. >> ricky gervais, the host of the 73rd annual golden globe awards. the unpredictable comedian has already apologized ahead of his comments at tonight's ceremony, to get that out of the way. we are back on this sunday morning, january 10th, 2016. people are already out on the plaza. first group of folks since the tree came back. we thank them for starting their day with us, especially since it's downpouring out there. >> one of the days you can hear the water pounding on your window. thank you for coming out. let's look at the headlines this morning. no winning ticket yet in last night's record $950 million powerball drawing. lottery officials expect the jackpot to climb to $1.3

we're learning about a secret interview with actor sean penn and el chapo, which may have led to the recapture of the drug kingpin. there are questions. in the interview published by "rolling stone" overnight, el chapo defends his role as head of the largest drug trafficking organization. the minnesota vikings and seattle seahawks will face off in one of the coldest playoff games in nfl history. zero degrees before the wind chill is factored in. kickoff at 1:00 p.m. cocorage begins at noon on nbc. we begin this half hour with a final check of the weather from dylan, who is in minnesota. >> it can go up two degrees. game time, we're looking at zero. right now, it's like nine below. that's not factoring in the wind chill. i gave up on the vaseline thing.

go if you're out here in the upper plains and the upper midwest. we are going to see just really cold temperatures. you guys have got the warm air. we could break records in new york city today. the record is 60 degrees. we're forecasting highs in the upper 50s. it comes with a lot of rain. we could see flash flooding. rain up to one to two inches expected. not good for the ski resorts across new england. the colder air is coming. as the cold air crosses the great lakes, it's producing lake lake-effect snow. erie, we could end up with a foot of snow. out west, we're looking at decece c cditions for the golden globes. 60 degrees and not any rain. hardly any clouds. it looks good on the west dorenbach sunday: morning windchills: -20s/-30s. deceptive sunshine. high 7. winds w/sw 5-10 mph.

knova's carpets, siouxlands largest shaw flooring center. >> erica, if you're wondering how i'm still smiling out here, it's literally frozen on my face. i can't get it to go away. >> i had a feeling. dylan, thank you. turning now to the golden globes. with a look at who maybe we think should win, versus who will take home the hardware. here to brere it down, we'll start with the film nominees. eric davis is managing editor at fan fandango. let's start with best motion picture drama. >> mad max fury road should one. i think "spotlight" will win. it has everything voters are

aareat ensemble, real-life story. th people voting are journalists. this is one of the great movies about journalism. i think "spotlight" takes it. >> when it comes to best motion picture musical or comedy, always an interesting way to consider movies comedies, but who will win and who should? >> "the martian" should win. it's onef the most entertaining movies of 2015. i think "the big short" will win. great cast, fascinating real-life story. i love how they koutcut to a bubble bath to explain the complex financial crisis. >> now, actresses. in the drama category, we have two actresses from the same film against each other. >> i think brie larson steals it. i think she should win and will win for "room." this is her first golden globe nomination.

deserves her due. >> t tre's a lot of talk about leonardo addydicaprio in "the revenant." >> i think he earns the golden globe, as well as his first oscar. >> which we're looking for next after the globes. when it comes to comedy, we have besties a ainst each other. amy schumer and jennifer lawrence. who do you think takes it? >> golden globes loves jennifer lawrence. four nominations, two wins. i think amy schumer takes it. she's hilarious in "train wreck." it's a great new york movie. these things matter. 2015 was the year of amy schumer. >> i can't wait to hear her speech, hoping for that reason alone, she gets it. >> now let's go to jeff for the tv category. >> we're joined by the editor from "entertainment weekly." >> good morning. >> let's get going with television.

television series, the drama nominees. >> i think "game of thrones" should win. that show is making a movie every week on tv, when you think about the scope of what they do. they film in multiple countries, have casts of hundreds. it's incredible. i think "mr. robot" will win. the globes love to recognize new bee s newbies. >> best television series musical or comedy. some of the shows we may know. others are sort of new. >> that's right. it's an interesting mix. we have "casual" from hulu. netflix. also things like "veep." i think "transparent" should win and will win again. in the f fst season, it was ground breaking. she was telling the story of her own transparent. season two wasjust as good as one. >> best performance by an actress in a television series. this is hard.

"empire" and viola davis from "how to get away with murder." >> we saw viola davis get the award at the emmys. i think 2015, the tv story was "empire." henson was a part of the face. >> i'm happy either way. "empire" is a great show. best actor in a television series. >> this one, i would love to see aziz take it home. the show wasn't nominated as a comedy. >> you think jon hamm should win? >> i think for best drama. and i think "mad men" wrapped up this year, and he turned out an iconic performance as don draper. >> best performance by an actress in a television series, musical or comedy. what are your thoughts?

jamie lee curtis is so beloved. "scream queens." i think the globes will recognize her. >> since you love "transparent," jeffrey tambor, best performance by an actor in a musical or comedy. >> i think he'll win. >> we'll bring you back on monday perhaps. >> thank you. >> nbc's coverage of the golden globes begins at 7:00 tonight with the "today" show crew on the carpet. don't miss their recap tomorrow morning on "today." coming up, robots designed to make your life easier, to a workout awakening your inner force. the family's success in the popcorn business for more than 100 years. i have asthma... ...one of many pieces in my life. so when my asthma symptoms kept coming back on my long-term control medicine, i talked to my doctor and found a missing piece

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we are back on a sunday morning with a way to escape what some consider the dark side of working out. >> now you can hit the gym like a jedi in a "star wars" inspired fitness class. before we sent dylan to the frozen tundra of minnesota, we sent her to feel the burn in new york. >> yeah, and i'm feeling a different burn right now. there are going to be a lot of tough nfl players playing on this field later today in what will be one o othe cololst playoff games in histsty. i wonder if they could hang with something i did yesterday. just when you thought they

comes to "star wars," there's now a "star wars" workout. >> reporter: "star wars: the force awakens," now the biggest film of all time, raking in more than $1 billion worldwide. and if you've ever dreamed of training to become a jedi knight, now you can. at your next workout. >> let's do this. >> everybody wants to be a jedi, so we brought the "star wars" element into the fitness studio. >> what can i expect in this workout? >> you can expect to sweat. >> nothing will stand in our way. >> reporter: it was time to awaken my innerforce. >> got the lightsaber but i need to learn the moves before the class starts. >> let's start by putting one foot in front of the other, and one hand on top of the other. start in a nge. arms overhead. exhale as you drive it? >> it's more fun with a lightsaber.

>> when you get challenged, focus on the force. focus on your breath. >> you're going to kick our butts. >> reporter: now, it was time to give it a try. >> try not. do or do nono there e no try. >> dylan, are you ready to awaken your inner force? >> i am. >> may the force be with you. >> we're going to start by tapping into our inner force. breathe in, and then exhale. >> go, go, go. >> with the lightsaber. >> that was just the warmup. >> which side of the force are you on, dylan. >> no idea. >> the force, it's calling to you. >> i'm trying to let it in. i swear, i'm trying. >> there's been an awakening. have you felt it? >> i'm feeling it. starting to feel the awakening, and it hurts. >> squeeze your glutes. we're getting into the dark side of the force. >> how you guys doing?

>> yeah. my thoughts exactly. >> three, last two, last one. >> nice job. >> wow. that was no joke. >> jedi is strong. they're real. >> they are real, hard working individuals. i can attest to that. what do you think of the workout? >> i loved it. i didn't know what to expect. light sabers, like fun, it'll be enjoyable. >> it's hard but the fun gets you through it. it's how you get through fit fitness. >> reporter: i may have earned my jedi stripes after all. "the force awakens." >> guys, this workout was so hard! i'm still feeling the burn today. if you want to do it yourselves, the new york sports club on periscope, where i'll do it live wednesday at 7:30, so follow them. you, too, can see if "the force awakens" within you. it was hard. >> really fun piece.

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this morning on "sundays with harry," harry treats us to a family in touch with pop culture over the generations. >> i get it. >> we like it a lot. r some of us, it's snow caps maybe. sour patch kids. nachos. for me, it's movies and popcn. i cannot go into a movie theat and not get the stuff. >> reporter: there is something about popcorn. the sound, the smell.

popcorn makes us happy. what better name for a popcorn company than jolly time. >> what's your address? >> 1 fun place. >> is this 1 fun place or one fun place? >> yes. >> reporter: gary smith's great grandfather, no relation, started j jly timee 101 years ago in sioux city, iowa. gary knows the sects of the corn. >> looks really good. >> it is. >> what's going to make that single kernel of popcorn a successful kernel of popcorn? >> the hard outer shell has to be completely tight, so that there was no moisture leakage. and thatoisture needs to be at 13.5% because that's where the explosion is at its peak. >> at what temperature? >> 450 degrees fahrenheit. >> science. >> tough science. >> reporter: every fall, the big

jolly time, loaded with the time of corn that's perfect to pop. then it goes into this, a gizmo kernels. between. we want to get rid of the very large, and we want to get rid of the very small. >> reporter: then it gets really serious. >> what does this thing do? >> this is what we call a color scanner. it's the last quality check before it goes into the package. >> how much is going through here? >> 60,000 pounds an hour. >> how does this sort the bad stuff out? >> what it does is, an ultraviolet light sees the bad stuff, and a puff of air shoots it away. >> reporter: who knew? jolly time is a david competing against the giants in the popcorn field. orville redden batcher and pop secret. the smiths are forever tasting

popcorn has what it takes. >> very good. skinny. the true measure of popcorn prowess, expansion ratio. >> what's this gizmo? >> this gizmo mezasures the volume of the popcorn, the expansion ratio. this is showing this popcorn expanded 43 to 44 times its original volume. >> wow. >> wow. >> is that good? >> very good. >> if you have an inch worth of popcorn, it'll pop up 40 times its original volume, 40 inches. let's all go to the lobby >> reporter: when you go to the movies, the bigger the popped kernel, the fewer kernels required to fill the box, which popper. the popcorn can't be beat pressure on gary. uphold. >> we're all proud of that.

it. but i think the word would be pride more than anything else. i don't want to mess this up. >> i can't stop eating it. >> you have to put your hands in it, right? >> harry, that story is awesome, as they always are. i learned so much. >> there you have it. >> i like mine with nacho cheese.

we'll all be having political gravity and every prediction of his imminent collapse. >> and who's going pay for thh wall? and he now says he's this race for long run. >> i'm not leaving. >> going straight to the white house? >> going all the way. >> and he's ready to use bill clinton's personal past as a weapon. >> i don't want to say it's a threat, but it's a threat.

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