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rs dickes on: highthoubots a ut newer tidror veotu feaisring h vecontroporsial ositionnmu slims. t >>ndotal apl cometet shun dow liof musms egnterinni the uted es stat. ic >> d: kersont does inconceryo atu th'r youeie bngse ud in uirecrt tmeno videby tsterroris? th>> uey oseertheo pe,pl. too hai tve soayha wt i have to say.>> ke dic: rsonhsweig a innhi y llartoclinndn a c tedhrisan sd talk about pierioritsnd a yl st pe asderesint.>> ou i w blde a muchif dntfere rs peon i thinks a pderesint. d >>rsickeloon: heok atad at wha 16 20il wl hold t forhe binargas isisu., ors. feignic polndy apr enesidbat o lma'sastr yean i ceoffi.it ll's ain comg up oacn "fee th ti naon." pt ca sioningorponsy ed bcbs orgood melning w tcomeaco "f e tithe nam on" i'johnrs dickeon.we begin the newr yeah witmp ca01aign 2 o6 andne ofhe t op pehole wti conesnush to upake th eit policalld worna, doldtr ump. c wet aughitup wmh hi atis h me hopa in blm oeachn newea yr's
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pwithderesint's obama etexpecd orplan f new etixecuiove actns un on gs.cl inudingxp eanding bunackgrod ks checas purch ges atunho sews wke asred al tady wrumphehat th aoughtutbo the pderesint'spl an. >> wlielly ke it. n'i do at likethny hing tavingo dm amenent. avwe hlee p ontyf rules and laregus,tionre thele's pofnty gsthint thay the can doht rig thnow at arelr aeadyhe tret. tha h we tavendremeous mlentaea hlthob pr wlem, ce'relosings place l alheover t wor ald,vell or theun coeytry th'relo cngsi. l alwa they ont to ds i ban thegu ns.it ot's n g thetun thals pul the r.triggei t don' iliket. n'i doket lit whas he' d.oingi tthink hhate'soo lking too d ec exe utivrsorde d toeto somhingha ving to doh wits. gun ic>> donkersck: bandgrouck che spp haoren fma norl gun pasurches at th are nlormato sre. s hi aenrgum wt bouldeus jot d ithe thre, oois llepho w youtano tma tke i thee samry evewhere. ut>> bon i d'tik leha cgnginan .ything t righthnow eey havy plent of s ruleand rategulnsioy thesh bouldooe lking atta menl he .alth
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oplet tha saresicko allr ove plthe aceat th's thela p hceere is the pemrobl.i d would spen mmorenoney oth is.he s re ithebl prothem, ade b a guysayre alwgs goin to t gethe ns guou. y h canalave hel t st reiorictouns yt. wan e thgubad ilys wlwl aayse havth une gs. d >>rsickeleon: at meousk yab eouttixecurdve oers in ne ge lral, tikehem,on d l'tiketh eem, thre pntside useshe tm to rogo a cundesongrs. el>> wl, ion d'te lik them.r ou cryountas wn'ted bas onec exe utiv.ordersno bodyea rllyw kne weve en had ec exe utivr orde asuchng thi. it'spo suptosed be you get g alonwith cesongrous, yol caje, b goacknd aor freth ary evebody igets an room and end up withal de s. mphis co oromisesn lot of otherth , ingsivhe guping onhe t esproc ss anignscu exetivede orrs. d >>keic: rsonouif ye werpr enesidu t yo lseemiked kinofgu yf i youe werre pntside you t mighusecu exe otiverderr otw o.>> ot l ofce pre tdenthat he's in dog. am glazine y thtscourk toot tha a pack a step dndidhi sometngth asat wy verur sinpriswhg ich
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t somahat ybeha tt one, iou wld bees rgcindin l aot of etixecuve rsordet tha he'son de.on ooly gdbo autxe evecutird oer, ne the siw preomdent ces in, rs fiayt d,st firr, hou fstir teminu c youesan rndcim. the ic>> donkerst : leskme a youou abot videng beiut p b outy isis, groupd donal j.ru tmpll car ing fo atotal cndetompleut shn. dow of mmsuslier ente ing thunited .states ee[ chringpp and a]lause fi can utgure ot whaee [blp] isin gog on. d >>onickers v: then gideo ooesn sathys, ste wel wilnt eveyuall rn tuin agatsst ili musm tici.zens atheyayre soing t mmsusli, ereithoi you jihn jrad o leave unthe sitedstateau becfse owh at t mr.rump isro pngposi.>> k, looer hes i thebl proem. gi brin it up, otherpl peoeav he ed call mehe ty say, you have ts gubr to iingtp uec bause klfran'sy ite. tru no but wbodyoants t getin edvolv
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op pehale t atren oif dntferepe sirsuathons ean mht rig now, hn joe, ar saying,ou yw, kno e maybmp trusn i'tng wro.we to want xa enemit. i er thae's o lot bfad stuffng goion . i'mat wg chin ntheews thtonig,ac lytual, cbs, ando s manyf oth ele es,mentou yk loo at y,german youk loo atss bruels, u yo alookll overhe tld wor, tishutowng ditn chaies tert nevha pd aemroblef bore.th eey'rin shuttg down ctrouniesth erat nev had abl proemor befe. u yo alooktis par, what enhapp ed.lo you ok atal cniiforhaa, wt edhappen. e mayb nit'sotol paliticly eccorrt't, i bs aroig pembl now avwe h se toell off thebl proemid 'rea youine beedg us in se esllntiayru recntitmeeo vidy brr tetorisrg oatanizion? >> they useer oth pe,eopl too, at whm aoii gong t do.ha i save to hay what i ove t y. sayo owu knt wha ti haveayo s,th s ere'lea probm. ewe hav to futind oha wt is the le prob sm andolveha tobt prlem. d >>onickers y: dohiou thenk t leprobham is tt -- thathe tes wt nis o ali colsionou crse with caradilam islr o iss thi just
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>> i thinkic radalam isl may beon ali colonsirs coueit whs. u ulyou co id cakeunt arod a tt liitle b. t bus it iay, verer vyp dee ed seed hdatreha tt's going on. you have a hatrede likeo pplewi g llinivto gire theiv les, ive hao t tell, youits i so big,it t ishe bstiggehi tnghe tre is t righow n, when iat wchpr tesidenma obaur, o bstigge leprobm. 's itt jus-- hesn doean't wt to e uswothe rdsic radalam isl. yt anavhing h ting dooit wh di raancal dsl iam.so il unte' hils wlingo tdm ait,ho n w canoyou tt ast leak tal ou abt thebl proem. ofone hi the t ings'vee doni ou brthght obe prp.lem uth rle wo td isngalkiut abo whati' aive sd. binow arg pf ts otheor wreld a ngsayium, tr ipsea rlly right at idleast fyenti wingshat' going on.if e you'rinnot go sg to tolvehe leproblem unouss yde iy ntifit.>> ic donkerst : leskme a you
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ll wi you talk as m auchs a idpresasent d youso a aca atndide?wi oull y be --l wil you be onv tal l the time,in givg resallith inat khid of tng? >>l, wel ihi tnk iou wld be vi ging resalli.i twantlyo ral thisou cyntrbe e causouour c hntry nasosp irit.wo i culdinertaotly nk tal as ch mu. mi'ng goi to onarigilly 17pe owople n 14 people and 13pe loplefot opl peoee arng goito bero dgppin out. ic>> donkersr : ouidcand.ates th>> oer cdaandites. vi oby ouslvei hado to ot a lf o intalk'mg, i gngetti hitro fm 15 erdiffdeent siiks i le toen defd se my lf.t buou i wld be auc mhif dntferers pe ton ihink asre p.sidentt buuli wod bey ver usenthiciaste , liki am right w no ttowardhent coury. eewe nd spirit.we d neea cleheer.ader idpresobent isama b aad rlcheer.eade thi t oughldhe wou be a goodee chderleahar, tont's g e thinith t ough hthatse wang goie to b gr a eathe cleerader.he 'sll reaay ig biv d.iderwe d neeer cheinleadg. ic >> donkersu : yoedtalk s toome oofur srtuppo aers, few of them id sa wdohen runald tetmp gs tobe si pre hdent he'lleoave ppleto
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ys sa. e arhe tyht rig?>> on i dnk't thiav i hghe rou iedges,be'll hwionest .th you nt i we to ivyea leguoo schl, iwa ods a gode stu int,hi witn toe thha wrtonoo schl ofan fince, e onheof tat greoo schfls o the d. worl d anbei can e morit policallyco t rrec athannyoa cchha thet ty n ca mgete.ca i n behe tos mtic politallyco t rrec wpersonyoith u.co i sauld omy sngethi t athend e t ofhiser intview you would say, w, woha was tt bg.oringi ve-- us d >>rsickeveon: gi us pcterfely capolitil -- h >>isere the problemit wh tipolicalre corssctneke, taos tolo ng. d we'tone have. tim tid alke ytooubo autho ancrba abieset ons newfe cone.renc onand hee of tep rrsorte, alacturoly fmbc a,ai shad, tst' a dorerogaty term. s i waid,hy? hed, saiel wel, h dtidn' know why. aihe shad, wt would youl cal em th? bithe ba oesfum undocdente grimmi -antske- lien sev or woeight rd dioefinitn. soi'm drry weon't t haveimeor f
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i en b theos mtit polically rrcoecrst pe tonhatou yev've erin ietervwed.ta tokes uco mhim te. d >>onickersn': iset ther a co st?th ofink t allamhe nyes thel cal beyou e caus tof thes hingyou say. w >> tell, ohinkef tht fac ttha i'm lngeadi in the poll bytr doemenarus m.ginsth i haink tt's partf ois, too. le peop w don't pantalolitic eccorrs,tnesy' theirre tfed o it.at thne's oth of ine thhags tt rhasedesonat withe. mi t don'utgo of o myay wo t bepo calitiy llrrincoect.wh en. d >>onickers y: thennkou thi ofe thde presiotncy, n thew sho , part swhatngit goie to b like?do t youhink aboutha thet, t er opn?atio>> 't i don a think iboutt. iherees th. thingat wh ihi tsnk ihe tce prowess, lhaveotf ong thiso tl. selhe aralth cero pblem tshat' cr inleedib. amobeacaroi gngp u 45%.yo eeu s theed deuctiblt' thas inhappenngg goip uo sh higev nergo toing a be tbleo use it.yo oku lot asi is. loyou tok aur oil mieitarns ish r attehayou heve tal gener ngsayis it'notre pd,parere we' t inrehe pd pareas a marility e we'rnotpa prered. b it'sneeen o t ofhe w- orst -he id sa a -- hellctuaaiy sdm froe
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inewr viwa he s talking aboutla pckeddnreparefress heom t nn begiing.lo ouok at etr vows hly bad they bhave teenedreat. boour srder howpl peoree a justpo g urinssacro ouror b.ders e'therens plty too. d>> ic donkerslk: taut abohe tpr enesid acyinnd fger on the .buttonun sitedhatates ts nose ud cl nuweear s aponesinc5. 194 swhend houlit? >> i well,t isn a aebsolut lastst .ancei thuse weordre unpabdictle.yo ntu wabe to udinprelectab. me sobodyen recidtly sa i made agr beatinusess deal. rsthe penon oth the oerid seas w teinwervied by aew nerspap.ho dw di trump dos. thiey th say h se'sonp uctredi.ablei kdidn'tfnow iy theea mnt itsi po otivelyrat negy.ivel but he meantt ios pelitivy. e we hav btoeom stewha icunpredtable.cl nuhaear bs toeol absyutel st lanc stae. wa i ais agthnst are w inq. ira m i' anott fasgg trier.yo u haves guy whiho tnk are very w lo bkey,eas fhater tn me. uli wod be v serylow terrigg
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r cleais a majorro p.blem h weave majorbl proems,ec bause ha you thve oeoer pthple ouat wld erbe vyas ft,ou yk loo artt nohre koea, somhe of tseou cnseltr dees, i ton'thehink tdy woul ta hesiuste to e fit iy there allyad ht. i ic>> donkersun: the taited s tes -- i >>s t'lyrealas a lest r aorts r fa'mas i crnonceed.>> ke dic: rsonidpres oentbama edsign ord saio n morepy sing on es alliep but rort in " thewallst reet j"ournalt tha wasg spyin on top ilisraeff olsicia. ul wo sd youoay ng spyin on i israelcioffiatals ? all >> i wouldta cer ninlyot want todo it.bu vet i ha toay shi ts,re we' in beieg spn d oveby edyrybo. 'sand itbl terriet whaisoi gngon th in hoat wlehi tng.we d fin out thate' wre beingsp onied byhe tm. hieverytsng i. oute thbaone ngd thiut abohe t utcomperat gener hion, iave aso e'n, h nsiners yea, oldanhe c rt viy uallpatake art anyco ermput .e theslepeop s areoll briiant th wipu com,ters the old dayswh ouen yht fig w aar you give me so abodynrm aedua grde h has loenveowpe n going tghhrou so cmanyelhannus yo't don w knowhois
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's it a real p.roblem prthe ob wlemithhe tom crputee ag i is,'t don t yhinkou hese y crecany more.>> rs dickeu'on: yoavd lee open ibpossy ilitpof syingn o yb anveody, elln aies.>> iou wld leaven ope sspoitibilofies ng doiha wrteve akit tes to make our countryve ry, sveryg tron tandako me courryountat grein aga. d >>rsickeleon: tat's lkli po ftics mor ae.inut u yo tsaidhaten satorz cru pe ap tared co bengopyir you mi imiogratlan pn.yo laur pn as i ustnderitand s i po deiortathens ttn led goos oneba n ck i tonce hhey laveeft the trcoun y.av >> h ge toohr tough a process. ck di herson:lais pstn ju po deiortatn. h ise hetr sricten oun medocu -nted -ir >> f ast ofisll h plan justha edppen, okay?fa wct ias winatchg the otherda wy, iasat wg chinted t walk,e bwill auildal wl.fi tirst 'vme iare hed him. ifmy wide sa, oh, l hook,se' py coating whe you'vaybeen singfo lor a nger pofiod e. tim o.no, n i'mal tking aboutor depontati. peand copleoman cace bk into thent cou nry,ott jusha ttup gro otbut peher cople canome backbu evt oderyb ty haseo comnt ioou
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nti watr a song br.orde i'and em th t oneamhat ce up i witht. en wh i ancnnout ed thaasi wru g,nninro i bpught ual illegim atmigrion.it as wn'tn eve aje subtct tha d wouleehave bn dediscuss inis theb date. itnow ne's o t ofhey ver big tssubjec. d te icruzyis trng tote sp up s hiewhole gam on aesmnty and on le il igalrammig btionseecau it wasct ay uallequitk. wea u yoenlist h toimnd a marcobi rungo tryi tove sol the leprobhams thet ty have hnad i pathe aust becyse theer wote bh ak we on it.ha i eeve by n verngstro on it. y'so theinre try gg toet ngstroer.no hbodytas thait posikion le i ve hapo that tision. t imenhewant tal wl.i ewantboveryutdy o. penow ople areom c tingoe. mbu bot noasdy hha ttue iss.no sbody i t going ao beble too dit ik lee. m bo nos dy axaan emple onhe twa noll, bodys iet gting moexic ayto p for theal whel, tof cost llthe wa, but me. ey th't donn evew. knoit 's not in their vulocabary. d >>onickersbo: nohidy tsnk gyou'reooing t get -- t >>kehey maor a f wtunesith u m so much aonthreon mhaey tnwh
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eyan c -- we havera tdefi dewecits, av h -e- ifou y look he at tin kd ofbe numrs that mmexicoitakes w th us,he wallis ea p.nutson usly bs inesonpers s woulday.th athe t piaolitic'tns donde un irstandt,re they' allk tal an ad ton.ctio d >>keic: rsonsayou haid tet thgo sod one wouldom ceac bkn o diexpebated ousis, wldn't to sena sr cruzay wellha tt's stamne y? t >>dhe goos onebewould in comg i backld wou t say whatet wantoha heve tacm bk.bu op pele.we havene obl pro hem, weavemi ollionsopf penle ois lt thatha e ve gonugthroegh lalro pcess ey th't can i get tntohe cryount.we to have tarake ce of them.i eowant p cple to iomen. usthey j tt haveeo com backle y.gall ic>> donkersen: whay you s about tosenauzr cr t notoo many an evlsgelicae comofout thecu ba?>> an it mets thaa cub galenerlysp teakingo aho catlic cou.ntry yoand u don'tqu eate geevanlslicah wita. cub i't don. ink thing evas elicaliav he -- igu iess am, i'mre persbytian,
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in comutg o ofa. cub d >>onickersbu: u't yootre n tiquesgoninth wheaser -- fars a knyou ouow yld coue b more utdevoyo as e.u ar>> clyertain it'ssi posble. ti'm nost que.ioningi say it inew somhatli smingma bunner, ret theit's a l tleut tro h tit. d >>onickers w: whenmee cok bac ne in oe minut tdonaldrump talks abt ouomhaak wthen in erk
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.iowa ic >> donkers'r: we we back ith o moreinf our rvteiew withna doruld tmp.hi y llartoclinhan, wt i doest hemean woun yay s she'syi plangth eom waran cd? >>st conyantlyi plang theom wanrd ca. rs pe, onallyti'm no t surehat yb anelody erse oth thane mis g gointto bea her.i think she's a fdlawe nd cae.idatyo eeu sha wt hasap hdpenere lycent i andsnt han't bee a pveryyretttu picre for her orfo llr biau bec'mse i o thenlyon ate th w isngilli to talkab hiout s ps.roblem ea i mnha wt he did and what he gohas nehr t,ough i think isan frklyri terble,ec espy iallifsh s e wantlato py t wheoman
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la pe y th cwoman yard inourvi ew?he >> s's pnglayi it. e shisan p,deringhe s's nd patoering p thecubli and e' sh psriandengwo to men. d an swhenhe d iidtit whe, mlk taed about st,exis i said, me, iav he more respector f women by thfar ilan h claryonlint. hasi will door meor fen womha tnll hiinary clwiton ll. ll i'fa do mrore. cl inthuding tee pro octionf ourun co try. shede caus o a lot pf thesroblem wthatave he rightow n.yo du coul say sheau csedhe t iomigratk n, looat thero pblems - in->> rs dicke son: astaecrefry ost ate? a >>crs seofetary te sta. e thir enteld woras h bneeps uet, their enteor wld is afe difntreac ple. ardid back obamail and hlary to clin tn'sermhe s's doneho jrribleob. she'sd causesoan my of thepr .oblems tlet meouell y sngomethi, she's ed caus. death she'sau csedme tresndouth death
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i agwas thainst ie warn iraq, iwa asn't picolituts, b i wasag t ainswathe rre in onacti shevo foted her t warn iiraqe $sh edcaus -- ke>> dic: rsoncashe edusth dea,ho w?oo >> lk atya lib.th hat wasaber by. m i'evnot enal tkingut abo the ba amorssadhe and tpl peothe with e asambasdor, y,oung werondlfupe .ople th wies mcosages ming in b tyhe ndhu areds'snd she notn eve sprengondi .m i'tanot glkinut abo. i thatal'm tkingbo aut all ofe ththdeath atee's bnau csed.no lyt on on our -- ic >> donkersat: thpl peoe weresa byved ng goi in tg akin-- t >> ihereths noing saved. eif wou w hldave neveron de hianytn ng iddthe miasle ee't wdha ucve mfeh sarlr woigd rowht n.tt geing riddd of saamse husin, m i' snotg ayinashe w aoo gd onpers . ashe wad a bso pern. whbut watee hav now is far e.wors tall ofhis has led to isis, all hiof tss ha ledo t thegr min.atio ofall s thias h led to em trusendo a deathnd st deioructn.an ed sh for thet most par wasn i ge charit of ng aloit whma oba.>> ke dic: rsonsayou u'y yooll d
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clninto d howo younk thi w'soman riexpe iencena dily life is erdiffanent th m thean? y>> theav he aif drefentif le.it d's areiffeifnt le. t buheat te same timti don' k thinnwomet wan btoede panred. to ini thmek woonn d'te likarhilly in cltoton h bet ones ywithou, .john isi th t youwohat men -- iee sit t all thethime teyell me, ha you ove tt beaer hu , yohaveto win.sh ae's bl terrieer pson, she's a leterribn. persome woten are g llinhame tt. ink thi,nk fralyat, th wenom do t no hlikeryillant clion.>> ke dic: rsonwoare --men doth eey hav thee samdv ageantas ofme tn inoday'sor wold, dy the-->> nk i thiha they eve com ag lonwa y. ini th'vk ieer clytain wnithi myco dompany hine t tngshat were ry vefe dif brentseecauye 30 ars o ag wi hadoman in cehargf o dibuilasng a msiveld buioning ft fiveh anue,e mor t0 han years ago.no wbody hould daveonet thain rm tes ofst conn.ructio it was urdnheaf. o wa i ys waad ahe, iso have an my womencu exetives. 'rthey ieblncredie. i but bhaveeenat gre to wenom msin terhe of tld worf o
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ke>> dicyorson: u weoire gng tose nd $2 monillin o ads -->> no. go i'm o ing tspend $2il m olionn peads ree wkt ast lea. leed ne k tonow?>> i'm pyrobablti wasng themo ney.bu $t i'm35 millioner undbu " dgetgowas ing to havet thasp byent n iowav hen'tnt spe yt an.hingi almost feellt guiy.i' gm doin the ads, i'mdi leang ou by yil wayl s aot lyo, nu ca y sathe cbs pnyoll, aol p'ml, inn wi aing by. lot do i thn't i ink need the. ads i'but gm doinhe tm, ios almtfe ltel guimy i' $35ig hhway 40 iomillrn undege budt.i wasng goio te hav att leas $35mi n lliot spenasnu of jaary t spenstalmohi notng.i l feetyguil. goi'm tingond spetl a lite money. ito want be cinerta- - ihi tnk di'll wo veryl elin iowa. ll i' do ryealll wel iwn neha e.w neshhampthire lle poes arve , ryveryer powful. ry vetr song. ain iow l i'm.eadingno sbodyitays .
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ithatea'm lding ted cruzs ise cond. dy nobota ever bolks atut tha ll poat, th wass ier vyaj morll pobl probaey thos mten expsive poll t.aken i' but m at 3.3-20 nki thi i'mng goio t doer vywe ayll w wnengashii'ton ved lo w toa.in iowi dcoulav he said itfe diflyrenti i do great with eelvangicalsan ad tety par d i'moingre gat. ie hav real gdooli feeng with wa io. ic >> d: kersonuelast qn.stioan w y ne ryear'sioesolutn? m >>ake ournt couryre ggaat ain.ck din:erso t mr.thrump, anksuc so m h. nk>> thaer you vchy mu. sodickerlln: we'gh be rit
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