gy ener.>> forte whaverso reanon dalddo tesn'ct rea well.wh sen he' goingow dn inhe tpo lls. ic>> donkers d: onocemra sticide rp sungrisiur sgebe of rnie nd sa cersnuontiesau cngsi arhilliny cltoton sblcramee wca uughtitp wrnh beanie sders in onvermt. w>>hat willun amot to,il wlag ree,n aet ups. d >>rsickenoon: ht ifryilla toclinnn cap helt ie' weall hr om frnt clihion tsni morngs a she eppr taresono ctfron srsande in ghtonidet's atmocric de ebatin lechar.ston k checitin wrch mao rubio and kjohnhasicot b bhtlatgin it out s to atayliveer aft theot vingbe .gins lal coming upn oth"face e on nati."ca ngptionins spo boredy cbs orgood melning wo come t"facee th" nationjoi'm hnic d.kersonbr neakingisews th mngorni,re thrie amecanslu incding gtwashinonte reporr jason,t par t ofhene prisorch exangeh witir ouan annncedn o the day

y untraras p tt ofhe ianrani eanuclrea dl. andhi t vsideoho sws teehrf oth e iniraanst juslo pre iosedn us hoton.th isa is sthwap at'slr adyea ar spcoked ventroonrsy the mp ca taign.rail tawe sitrt whor fr meetsecraryof te stall, hi caryonlint, whois in cesharltonhi trns moing. goodni morcrng, seetaryli cnton. r aftethisso priner exchange na serctor mao o rubi qsaid,uote,if t youake anri amecanta hosge, obarackilbama wutl c al deawi th youhe wthert' isah bergdl whnow e'at hons dite whra in. ur yoct reatoion t? tha >>l, wel ink this it't jus pi tycalit polalic rrihetoc, looveroksom seer vy b,asic rtimpoant is,ssuebe numner o, we ysalwa try to get acamerinsk bac o whare utlnjusy held. ita cerinly did wi hen was etsecrofary te sta. whand wen ias aen sator iad tevocard fo b theush niadmitistrao on tdohe tam se r folepeop whoav hen bee la unlywfulel hdn i fgnorei secouneel trs.se

s re ithat thean irian emagreent to put a lid on the cl nuweear sapongr profam on irais ng bei imemple.nted an ir hianssoave far fllulfied r thei osidefhe tga barin by st dengroyi ctrenesifug, sinhippg t ou8% 9r oo sf o theirnr ediche iuurantm outh of eirou c,ntry en evin makg one ofir the onplutiumea rs ctorrundeco ucnstr ntiono longer atoble e bever usedau becsey theou predce imentitnto . thso, ale re issueer h,e is ifyo cu'rettommioed t making the rl wofed sandr a swhoon strg icameranea lhidersu p yo thaveo ga ennge i pntatie, pstersientdi acplomity woph pehole w are yonot furdsrieney, th are on otthe siher fde o aot l of the su isndes aal vues that you holdve eary dr, that clyertain true th for ede units. state d >>rsickermon: fo aer fbi gentti is snll i d iran, bo youveelieat th theni iraansw knoe wherheis

pa orts f thideal? >>el wl, ieg rret dyeeplha tt bobev ln insowas not on hayis who meit eher. pei ho andxp eectt thahe tir nsanial wilti contonue be es pr vsed very,haery rd to geiv up anynf itiormaheon tye hav and osif pesibl toet rbourn b vi leo nson tomhis he andam fily. d >>onickersch: swittoing the c topiof guntr conouol, yd sairn bedeie sanulrs shodu sorppt idthe oeafng lifti iitmmuny oc bl gk onunuf manrsacture n,owsa llys he'p suport the atlegisluion yohe pusdim ho. tso n' haste hon deha wtou y edwant t him?o do>> l, wel i amas plehaed ttse rnatoan sders hasp- flipeflopd oneg lal inimmuorty fun g msaker d anle selrs, now i hopee hwill so aln joiem mbers of cesongrso t an chhage w ct'sdallehe t lechar lstonolooph tehatbl enaedth ker illeinha ctorlesn to get guthe han tte husedo t mrurde

m inrothemm elanuehu crch, at thom's sngethie els sorenatsa s nderorsupp tted whateee nd to ce.hangso w, no c i'mngallihi on m to falsoliplo fp in theht rig re din ctiosiand ogn tno sllegin atiohato cthnge ear ch llestonoloophe. ic >> d: kerson oyou atnnce i19 he39 wn youe werst firad lysu d pporteontestimroy in fnt of theen sfiate nance com amittee x25% ta ons, gunou y n'reot or supp ttingwhat no orro pmoting n thatow.w hoouhave y eedvolvve or the s year tinmser of yourpo suprt r fosethe acondmemendnt? >> i doup sporthe tec sond dmamenent.th s at iysalwan beend uooerstd.i bjustveeliet thae lik any en amt dmento ourst conioitutn er the e aronreas sable ttepshat n cabeen tak.we e havea rblsonaees rtitriconson ta cerinin kd ofec speh or aicertrmn fosf oem assbly. r fooo gsdneses sak weht oug to mabe snort eugh and do so iscons wtent tithhes contitituon

t toryo tav smee so t ofhe00 3,0 ve liats th wee loso t gunvi ceolenry evegl sinare ye. is th iset somhing that i have enspok a out.bout at thav i hedv aedocat forht rig now.i kthinhe tre is ase con insusn theou c ontryn cehomprveensi ck bandgrouck chelos, csing the shgun ow loloophe,si clong the li onndne a cesharltonph loo,oles ve reg rsinthe iimmuntyen giv toth ne guus indtry,ta cerinly ibprohgitino wbeuld-er tisrort onhe to nly f zhaone, tst' themm coseon senac approh that wesh e ould b tboxingove achie. ic>> d: kersonorthe stouies t oft, flin mgaichidn, leael levs inth re wateav here c aatedn ge emererncy the. rsenatoan sders cdalleor f ricksc dehneiher, ter gov tnoro gnresiat, wh y isfeour g?elin >>el wohl, jn, this is anss iuei' eeve bn ivenvoldn iow n forco ouplef w.eeksi amri horfiedwh by atpe hapnedin nt fli.i ta srtedal c flingor iiammedte ti ac con,ngalli for faleder te intirveni on, tsentwo of my

mathe ofyor nt fli as you may ow kn, iea app orednw shohi ts wpast aeekndan dem tdedhat rngove soridchnesker a t forhe thelphat mgaichinee nds toea dl th wi theri horblese concequensth hiat cn ldre tandheiram fsiliear ein fac iginn flt.i sawha tt gnooverr sidchneertu rned adroun wn ithitwo hours na fiaslly foked e r th thelphathe ul shoved haed ask for somewe ageks o. n'i doant wot t getau cghtp u in e thol palitick bac f andorthhe ire, wtoant p hel thepl peoe liof fnt.an idti parrlculaany wt a recompivhensale heth asinalys of at wham's ho ed te thesdrchilen, ad le a isoi p ison,ttr desoysyo raur bin. itnt ireerfeths wi yourrn leaing d anyoureh br.aviowh eratev t it fakesoric mnhiga d anfethe l derarngovemento t tcomeheogetr toa femou thrgh thheal h andumanvi serces, theep haa, wr teveites tak, we now thaveo fix aro pblemnd ael hpth kiese ndds aec espy iallrtheial

ob prorably f t years.o come>> rs dickepion: toeac of hlth b care aackt thena natiolel lev, dyourraughtels chen ea iwhich idson saen satorer sandsiv unheersal aralth clae pnil wl tldismane omaba,carent dismale dr chileaen's hlthns iurance og prndrams aie serofs er othth wingsouldma dis.ntle t isn'anshe dou yram cpaign notta ntking iuno accoatt thse tho gs thin b wouldeep rd lacenby a tu aclaal phan tt sorenatde sanrsha ts puwa forrd?>> l, wel ink thit' irys veco innfuscag beheuse n' hastt pu rw foard a plan. d anthe only w waye knowt whait iss he' acadvoting fores com fromki loot ng athein nile bls at ths he'ro intdducen ihe t e housandat sen aendon cs.gres t in bhose eillsvery kind of al hethe cars i rdollell ap u ge to atherannd hded over to thest whate ichr bea ain falancire sispontybili to m watchthhat e de fegoral mevernront psviden i r ordeto aisdminheter althe. car

of se-inglr payeemsyst i as rsunde itandt.it a is s-btate sasedmysted kin of sarimilo t medd,icaiyo if uwi ll.an d i dohi t tnkhere are very gi letetimast que tionscahat en b edraisec, bause weon dav't he anup da to late pn from sorenatsa s nderall of usin tryg tofi ogureutt wha itld wouea mn eforboveryody t beut p intoth atew n sm.yste>> ke dic: rsontosenaxcr, euseme s --taecreryn clitonha tt mayco me up thisve eningn whe'r youe s ontage. g >>oreat tk talouto y again, john. ke>> dicnorson: ew wn turo trn bedeie sanhors w c weupaught th wi in hiset homown of gtburlinon, v.ermont y hillarn clintoecsaid bause shede unndrstalls waee strsht ole td t melahis k,st weeul regwaate ll re stiket lee th n gixonoingo tch ina.>> on nixng goi tohi csna iex y actlopthe teposi. ll hiarynt clionod someboy wh

ne moroy fllm waee strt.>> ke dic: rsonweshe o nt twall etstred tolm the tt o puutit o. y >>noou kw what,ti cutng it out otis n genood .ough ygivenou amp exale. yi pang a5 $li bilon for their gertga s.at wh a thecamerieon p aplereee s hing isaiuge bl out w forallst whreet, thile ide mdle classco uentins tois darappe. >>rs dickeiton: swtach to xesa for .moment axyour t y planavou hen'tut p yo out atur res forer plsona meincoul, co ad beigs hhs a0% 9. t'>> thaies a l. um tridp sat thar ovend a over n.agaii t don' twanthoo souck y onth neis o,n. johju ecst b daused onalp trumsays m itotay n bect exalyhe tth tru.th apat h tpenso beot tal. lie t lealme tk aboutha tt. ca beweuse are pblrobay putut o morenf itiormanon oes taxn thaan

wwhatee arin sayg is,ha tt 'r weine go eg tonds thi tr ouusageoit pos tionhatow alls mobig inney stteresik llle wa etstrems fir, to parkir thepr s ofithein tma caynsl iandsan ygivenear. in aiv geaen yr pay n iickeln xe taois, g tngo endt. tha swallt tree nmayikot le it. t burewe ang goi toos impe a taxon l waletstre slapecu stionoth ate w cane makub plicle colges and ursnivesitieui t ftionree and sanubstlytialer lower intest te ra ss onnttuden loas.so wee hav adylrea put out a mb nufer o taxro plsposa ibe e liev tmore ahannyth oer idcandwhate wichillp hel us an trm sforicamerewan s ded,deman tthathe whyealt andar lge orcorpnsatio payir the. taxes thbut iss i nnsonsee. ic>> donkersu': yoaive rsedqu onestibos ailut h claryonlint r fod paiam filyic med laleave iwhaturs yoce conrn? h>>eres ihe t concern. d she'toesn have a plan,t' thas cothe n.ncer ic>> donkerse : sh tsaidamhe se g thinouto yut aboes tax. lstilti waiong t getou yr r.ates

ve pntrese ied thinkor mesp icecif tax psaropohals tnny a he otrdi can.date inbut ms ter of fyamil and camediavl leate wh w ishat you got.un sitedstate is they onlor maj un coontry th ear thatoe ds not an guarte fe paid aamilynddi meavcal lee. w, nore the is ain bill the te sena i, whatayt ss we willgu tearanree thnte moaihs pd lyfami anded micalve lea, ist ifr ofee, rs cou'se it not free.we il w cl -- oost iftil wl be ou abt $.1.61 eea wk for the ave aragecamerin rk woer.i k thin'sthat p aregotty od ve instla: hilntry clioson cho es snot to tupport lhatlaegis.tion>> drsickeshon: ase h o herwnpl hean, anr pl toax t people who -- o>> nid k?ding d i hatnon seethatn. pla d >>rsickeiton: ut's ore the . i >>t'sot n outhe t.redi erck sson:l he'l ttake hene moomy frin taxseg tho peeopl who bitenefedro fe m thomeconic uaineqeslitich whind soukes li iebernde sanlars p n. i >> nt'sot ani bernde saserpl an,'t doesno gar fno eugh.

y ifanou wt shiometo ng tbe long st la ting,eohe p hpleave ne owp rshioft i, theyw knono gthins ire fe, h taveoay p me sog thinitfor . en wh d youo soinmethg likeag vue , ideatawe'll ex thlt weahy onis thne o. ldit couap dis tpearroomorw.>> rs dickealon: hee.th caren whea you hr chelseali cntonsa yy thattou wan tom diseantlob aramacise, dlemant the drchil hen'shealtur insance raprogism, dlemant maredice, andismprtle e ivatrainsunce.>> li milofons pl peote oure the nwithalo he ithannsurcet aall.sp ngendi myir enteif leak ming tsurehat asan mypl peoes a ibpossetle glt heansh iceuran,at thst is jutu unfornateat stt.emen at th ceahelsnt clion me.ad af abfordarle ccte ach whi ihe wlped,riteed votor f, has ne doe som tgoods,hing noqu onesti .t buavwe ht e gooto gon beydth at. 'v wet e gooito jn the rofest thend iiaustrdlizeor wld,he caalthsre a aig reht w can ve sa thedl mide class fieamilsth ndousaofs dollars a yinear th the healar cets cos. d >>rsickedoon: tnald srumpaysun hlessnse wi o allfis hef

oudo yl fee stheame way. al y readhadi achenevemt? w >>tae s trtedhispa camasign wyouellno kw like% 3ni the ll pos. a weowre nad ahen inewha irmpshloe, c tsingaphe g in wa io. ini thk weav hooe gdha cnce to bo win hoth ttase stes. ki thin h weave goode chanc to thwin isle en.ctioi k thinrethe tason whatee ar g goininto w t ishatpl peoree asi ck anded tirst of atus quopo csliti e andmiconocs.th aney wt are pntside who hasts guta to stond up the iobillenairss cla andrt stare enprestingki woramng friliagl ees.>> ke dic: rson ywhenerou wte a at ste the u,niont thadcoul be pme uhe tre?>> he tho tughtid dss cro mymi nd. 's iter a vy hblumexing enperice, el feing. t buewe'r rngunnid har to. win t we whinkave he ad goo cehanc i atowa n andewps ham.hire weand nk thi we haved goo cehanc w towihat ll antmou tohe t, one heof tat greol piticalet upss inmo dernis htory. ke>> dicyorson: tu justhinkab

>>l, welrt staing my iurnaugalsp .eechno itt que. ait'sg lon woay to g beefor we talk aboutna ialugur sh.peec teor sta ofhe ton unipe seches. ic>> d: kersonveyou hage sugstedu yothare e morect eleablede atmocrat, whit is ut aboou y,be srniersande,t thaak mes are morect ele?able i >>nk thi weav hne app aealo t un yo pge,eopl tong worki classre anpublicos, t datemocrs ouobvi tsly,oep indntendes.i kthint wha we are sg eeininth ane sdersam cnpaig is a greatde fal org enendy ait exct.emen ilit wl tlaransntte i aoar lge r voteturnut o,ge larot ver turn noout lyt onns mea wnginni thepr enesidtcy i means rtuecapring the se,enatng doil welinhe t us hoe, wnginni gnovereaor sts l al toverhe cryount. d >>rsickethon: s ere'ape tircepouon ye havneweaknss ore fofaign afisirs t thaso g methinatth yeeou nd to ovimpr ae as s killeto b es prt iden poreeoplt jus nfmisid?orme d>> i ton't ihinke hava ak we onessren foignai affrs.is itru tet thaarhilliny cltonwa crs sey etartaof s fteouor fr s,yearco of .ursegr deeat fal oer expe,ienc

t not juster exp iience,t's dg ju.ment tei vodin aga- st - onotnly nsagaie t thinwar q ira i hdelpele head tos oppn.itio arhilliny clvoton foted har tt r. wa ofone w theorstei forgn pyolicbl rsundeth in dee mornto hisry heof tte unitad stes.yo uno kw what, jenudgmunt cotswh aen youreal tking aboutfo nreigff a.airs d >>rsickeyoon: t u selddona p trumatis pgiholocalr, lia why ifspeclyical ? g >>yoive eu onmp exale.wh een hs goeun aroeld tlingpe toplei hat twantose rai ei thxer taids b 0%,t' thaas lie.ne saver haid tt. nit'sotru te. mb nuer torwo mpoe imt rtan.look ngtryi toid dives thionnati. heel tlss uha tthe tex msican o whcoare ming in tohi ts trcoune y ardrugea d,lers ey th'reis rapts, trehey' im crs,inalt' thasts ju l aie.ev ense wor, he goesro aund ngsayido i, naldr tump, i saw onte silevihoon tdsusan of mmsuslice atlebroning 1 9/1 when the ttwins owerwentow dn.th aat's. lie e therois n encvidee,he tasre wne anver ngythi onev teln.isioit

h heasot nlo apogized. s he ilo pathogicalia lr.>> rs dickeanon: thkser vyuc mh, to senar serands. r oul fulrs convewiation th iebernde sanonrs is our wteebsiat fheacet.cnationllom we'k bacto ea h frmro the rubepnslica.th neose sew glass? rethey a l. do iarook smter? , yeahlea littre. you'g makinne mow,y no y areesou inv?ting we vell, i'do been ing rsomerceseah. ilet meduntroouce y o tokeur bror.ho dw much coes hee?harg n'i do.t know uhokay. ou, do y y getr oufees f back i nyou'repyot hap? l(dad aughs) ywow,ouug're lahing. at th t's not he wayrlthe workd wos. , wellrlthe woand's chging. yo are kiu asnong eesugh qutions thabout yoe way ltur weah anis maged?

ke>> dicturson: torning thebl repus icanpowe smake to rco inrubio c siouxowity, ia. edwe ask a himbout theri psoner ap sw .th >> ney'reot prsrisonehe tse wpeopleere hesostag, none at viol red any lealaws,n i fact w some eeren'tvenrg cha oedne was aep rorter, the other ones waar. pastoth avey h ne done.othing let meus jayt sob bso levinnil stlis m, singweie belve theyow kn notei bngra coopeetive wsh nould fottorge him and histu siioat n.in go tg backo thent poi,he tse wehe'll re hs.ostage le peopri ameca isel reasing theyre wect conviaed in rt cou of lawaf e ter dusproces ofng helpiol viatean snsctio.th

inha excfonge r rees lease of ong.pr ncoves ogae ain that nowna s tionneand emiesf oca ameriar toundldhe worth know at ifth aere's f priceorme a,ricansif youak te an acameringe hosta, ckbara obama will cut aea dl withou y. he whet br it'sl,ergdahhe what itdid whhe to castrth bronders a now iran.we pp're hay they're cgomin home ne but sverdhoulav heee bnd helpr .isoner d >>rsickeaton: wh t abouthe k quices ronoluti ofhe ten t orsailsar elier last week,n joh rr keety secr sary ofaitate sd i thathes anotrns ianthice wch depp ploya m seepe helold sve asthat fthter tan iou wld have t int.he pas>> . >>ma ige fin theyre wanded intoeg wyptians,aterre theld woutn' bhaven eehianytngng goi on er thne, a it.nciden eythou w hldave hadhe tirot morre edpairt sen obackhen t wiray eainst wd of hhatneapped, iran ab grthbed em, puemt thn o theirkn haee, bends thindheirds hea.fo trcedtohem lo apogize on de vio.

edfilmm the cinap pivot in that om ro, l alfoef trt sowho how ulpowerfy thehoare wea wk wear ane de hug pgaropandare sco.th aeyreia notaricl l oer ie fr unds,atltimthely eyre edleasm the onlyer aftac g hievinhewhat t wydante. p toroveha tt ify thed wante to c theyban graca amerinrs sailo su and thbject em to missex treme. ic>> donkersid: prese ent ow bam s mainf tate onithe uonai sd, that withsi is,n wheep ranublicssa gry too ave aea thrt it playsgh ri tt intoheir h yandsou said's itla a csh ofil civn.izatioar ue yong playint io theiran hdsas de presiasnt hrg chaed? i>>nk thiyi plangyi plango inttheir wohands uld bee ignorli reaty of iwhatssis hae. becom i isisjus not sstome g oroupf ra lsdicae on thf back o upickptr .ucksth ais is groupha tt'swn gro in nfboth i aluencend is sophonticati h, theyerave vy ph socaistiroted pa pagandmprogra a thatre recinruitreg foign gh fi.ters hthey save aicophistated taundersofnding ei forgnim iomigratctn pra, icesyou'vese ten howvehey ha a beenbleo t pinserte eoplinto ee,uropre fugeeri csis, t'shere group nt cosirol ifgnt icanitterrinory

ais is er sious threat.ca n weef deathe tm, aelbsoluty, fonly i weav hel rea warin agastth fiem to hend t amndes dtroyem th . y iftuou cap ore any tfhemli ave t sendo hem tnaguantaaymo b find ev out ngerythiy the know.>> rs dickeu on: yohisaid t s atthre hasge chand naturef o the gr imminatio debate.u yod saiur ding the debate icdramatifally d tferenthan its want 24 mogohs a butg durin theim iomigratten debayo that eu werry veof much o part tfhere were twond ame oments,ne d thatealtth wi visar oveys staau becse ofss poerible tsroristsi ungha ttvi r sa oveanstays ootherneab cuout se tringheor bfider rst abeforenyd kin of al. deayo d u votet againsfboth oho tse,we t ren'lepeopr woried about tysecurie at th time aotnd n b just oecausesif isn i termsf o or terrthist reats? l >>e et mtcorrec youut abo os thmee as ndmentebecausy the alhad beready lten dea wnith i otherme antndme js,ohn cornin hadne oha tt irt suppo aednd on cosp lsor ofstarge brorde insurge ri amecanry histo. 0020,0 newor brdent ages.co

t as par hthaterave thase w a ribiometcnt eitry-exck traingsy hastem tt iseq rduireo tpr fyentipl peoate thst eve,ayed w no there wheyere bebl ae to mo rem ve the tfromhent cou.ry ofall t tha waslt deah wit orab toout e bdealth. wit -->> r as fa as --s it' a dreiffent ly clearin have he tt pas ys alwa hader tt rorisgroups that had annt it,eresut b neverad h p grou ilike tsishat has in depther unddistanng ofei forgnim atmigrionic practres, fo am ex wple, te knownehat o of the er killn s isan binernadoed enterth s.e u. on fiancea, visme sog thin mthatamost aneric sdn dino't kwxi ed.steth roat p bcess drokeown. id we dven't ha theee refug iscrist thaewe'r nowac fing. a i'vehalways der tstroriup gros evbut enl asoqaeda thme of eot grher haoups tet ar t outheree ar ronegiallyas bedhe t sytrike meat a aricashe ty hinave he t n passioifon dntferecc onsasio thbut eir focus was on themi eddlet.asth s is iaup groha tt hasba glol onambitis, ofqu cong.erin ng flyi f the flackflag os isiov

ithesisua sit itionssdr icamat dallyreiffent from anyot rrher teeaor thrt. mo the st ae,ctivop scahistited, welld funderi terro gstroup we vehave eonr ctefronyd the need dto beteefeadit eherhe ty win ore w win. i whenre'm pntside w we'llinth tlis bate. d >>rsicket on: le yme askouab beout pcomingntreside, apo l liticatiqueson. arthere t e a loplof peoeho w e arvo nerusut abo tedz, crure a ou nervt s abou tdonald wrumpouldke li tole coaarsce neound ond caidate.bu e t therloare f t oother atcandidt es tha cyou'rengompeti th wihy, w nott juse mak thegu arayment s't, don voteor f yb anodyls eeau becse s we'llplit the vote, backe m as an rnalteivat te torued cndz ao t lddonamp tru. >> well,ct ay uall bi'veeensa owying nwh for aile ive belie on i'm nely ohe in t pryrima thfield anat cte uni the blrepu picanhiarty wch iscr .iticalbu at also nttractew v wotersho t haven'd voteusfor e in th st pa . but ive beliem i at bes onpositioed te tak our ciprinples ofo cvanser atismndco pnvincetheople enat hav't d voteusfor iner quarttu cenry at thre we'et a bteric choe.i no kws, thila hilliry cntondo wes not tantoun rin agast me,

ctheirigampan, ian cnott wai ton ruaiaghenst fr i i'm our ne nomi we weillef deater hn tur c this aountryround. d >>onickers o: lot pfeeopl buirying fearmsen rectly, youug bo oht onestn chrimasve e,wh y? >>el wl, first of all i'm notry ve home. th arose e e onheof t fewi days twas.here iseconde havig rht toro ptect myam f,ily pusrevioly firearm er holdll as we i thissad aldition one.gi bb, ink thi many anmericas t feelamhe se way.i' stm a rong serupport t ofhese condnd amet,mene i havht a rigto te proct myil famy if sneomeo re weco to amefter us, int fac si if isto were visits u orur o mm coatunity anyom ment,t las dlineseefenwe betsien i ms andymi fasly i the atybilit thai ohave tte proct myam filym froth frem or om an crimial or eanyoneatlse th seeks t doo us harm. io millns of acamerieons pple aythat w. ke>> dicserson: r natoomarcru habio, t.nk you >> y thankou.

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an irveian go.rnment>> rs dicke won: we gant too to bl repureican piasidentl id canddate aner govjonor hnka hosich w joinss uow n fromlu coohmbus, io.go , vernorlkyou taedbo aut theim ceportan ofip dcyloma. do how you eevaluathi t rstecenre eleas ofri psoners and inad onditien the tlo saitrs tha wereel rdease eerarlihi teks we. >> ,welln, johs it'or st of fu i nny pwoke u thisni morng, i it'stinterest ng thadi woul bein thboking aut the iran a deals s i wang getti readyo tom cer overe he. i theranle nucar deal.i sowas srt of tick moyma stochou abect it bhaause woit is gng peto hapnn, irain is gogo tet gto a n ofon mey. m thisheoney tusy can e to adspreot a lf oro tn uble ithedd mileas et, in facthe tree haven beor repts fromom se otherar nsab couesel tre thatre they're moed worriut abo then ecoomicin ga is ofran thany the are whatey th thinken pot dtialmeevelopnt a ofpo wean. hi'vehieard ts fromar viouspe ople. i look, hijust t wnk itas arr

t thatheyid dn, ims ter t ofhere i'lease tm gladeohese pplee arut o, but they w terehere on d trumpehaup c, rgesyou knowth at rteepor wr whoasth held erefo r aer vyg lon time whory evejo sturnali inme aricaai sd, wasfa talsely heken, ty trumpp u ar cht'ges, i bs auaad sittion.we gl're y'ad theutre o. t, bue excuse, m we d won'tant toha ve the ianranis girabbngpe heople tton try gethe twnir ope utople o.we ht oug to focus now onhi ts iran deal.jo shn, myfense i i werees prtoident d day i'tibe meength wiry eveofone ourie alls nd arouor the wld andin sayg gowe're ing toit monhior ts dealfhe tyio vlate oness croed to one ddotte. iwe to need th slap cte sanionsck ban. o he if ty vteiola t dheealon meyis t going so talkome of theseco trunsel arees ine goovg to me d forwarcuand exsen irat' thas s justimply a notd goo lodevepment.it b's aad deal,d, perio end ofst ory. d

inn't thk that dmaiplocy asreleree he is biaeneficlsu ren lt i tallheeg niootiatnsat thpu were tn, i therg aument at thre secertary kry isak ming.>> look,he t factt thay' there iccommun tating,olhese fks gotre ileased c guessouould y make anum argentik l.e thatle ot's g b tack tohe rteeporrwh o wasrr ad esterunde tmprued up c.harges di wasown atwh that hiteouse es corrtspondenr dinne whereev siery ngleak speerd callen oth pentresidend an ira to just atget them gentlutan o of there,ey thav he. ebut th- guy -re the was nobu bsinesseing held. e wherheis tat gre vryicto here.it 's forhe tam f iilies,'m edthrillhe for t fesamiliha tt ei thelr r hativeseeave bn as rele ted buto says thi wasso atme gre i thing i thinksov inerstatyg it b aon lgt. sho ke>> diclerson: lkt's ta about ppomcuartilars. ng movin up inewam hrepshi, are young goin? to wi h>> i tavehree emendorsentshe reit whin thet las 24ou hrs of e threicsignifwsant ne ipapers n

rui'm gnnind secon tinhree out ou of flsr pol. ani w bt toe ary sto, it jus got av to he johnic donkerski talng t abou dme theayer aft the ar prim y. tif thans happepe then aoplere in gog toal finlyn begito hear me.gh rit now i'm i lown the onnatiolal peols, ponple d'tow kn me, but we're doingy, okawe in're dog really,ea rllyel wlin new hreampshi.we ot gth -- noere's st queione thre gt ates ground iame tnhatst ofate any cn,ampaig maybe one of the gt reatesgroundes gam avthey h ie seenn mnoderpo l liticatimes. op perele ave eherywre. it'sre impivsse.>> ke dic: rsononnatieval r iew,ti arcleg sayin you shoulday mbebe d donalmp truic's vesi predent pishall tck wha t is ahat sign of?yo iu'reen thrs conve bationutth uink youl sho bde v hisicepr t?esiden >>io obveously phople w have tooch muon time h their.andsdn die 't havnganythi t elseo e writabout. d >>onickersu': yooire dlng welin am new h, pshire hdo you avee thuc stro ture tbebl aeo tco uentin a on, longg sloft aer hanew irmpshe.>> e we have peopl on theun grod

lepeophe on tro gund inad neva. trentt lot insi misons mis is my ai ch.rman h gregarper theon cangressm.ha i ve theer govinnor ba alama.we in're do ig welln other hesouttern stae's, w tre onheba owllot n inr ove0 3s. statean d,n, johe somoi pnts it'ng goi g too toll iinois, mn,ichiga a ohioennd pvansylnia.o whoudo ynk thiin is gog to win e? ther ini th wk weill moverd forwa an ood, lk,pl peon'e didtnk thi i gowas toing getn. i tdidn't'dhink i t makehe tedeba .'t didn i thinke 'd makothe mney,lo t ok whas.happenwe l'reheike t leittle engin cthatan.ke n ep aeye on us and if we come of out am new hrepshi a asto sry, sti'm ju t goinglo tel y iou,be e liev bi'lle the n.ominee d >>onickersnt: i waas to uk yoab out sinomethg,ov gernorik nki hehaley por res tnse totehe sta of theni uon,od tay weiv le in otimef threats like few othersdu nxring aimious te it can be ti tempng tow follothe call. mweustes ristt tha tatemption.at

ov>> led it.lo heved mmr co.ents ot the inher ths,g in, joh ido knn't f ow i nyouedotic the ba dei tes eltravun arodd an lepeop, say you k ynow,eou'r the t,adul t onemahat kesen sse, re you'he t w oneheith t enexperi ce.do how ge we out y more te atn,ntio d howeo wet gou ymo imre te.in thisig campa vn i'meryud pro of it.m i' oproudtf i bseecau we'reis rathing r.e ba youno ktw, whaap hpensay tod in er amolican pitics isif that you n' do ot yellr say shiometng al relyme extre, the mediaig s noreyou. i soai sd onetl liteun fnyng thiab rnout bedeie sanairs i sd,ou y ow knrn, beies. i noe. kneth otat ge moren att ttionhanev hieryte ng elsid saihein tde .bate owyou kn what, at the, end the lepeophe tvemselshe toy dd gooan .alysisth hyat's w we'rein risgne in w irhampshe. wthat'srehy we' t goingoo d sowe ll. ic >> d: kersonokay.se rnatoic kasith, a ltle engine,'l weyol see tu a the. depot >>ov gernor. stopra downgding me.>> rs dickeapon: i e ologizi gotna seomtors cding an o goingver he re. , thanksewe hav lote morin comg. up>>

chbob serieffu if yo i keept up, sodicker n. ic>> donkersri: all ght, rngoveor. w weloere bew ththe 88er southran pallel. we ra had tveled ovfor 50er 8es mil. enmy mve driarn neadly mm fro st tiarvandon ast frobite. to weday ak me orhisty. >> vebiens!nido we e lcomheto tth soue! pol ouif ydo're hera tre explor, exyou e.plor wit'syohat .u do wh >>ooat tu k yoonso lg? if w youtoant e sav fi pefteen orrcent more on ns car iceuran, yo itu swgech to ico. 's itt whadoyou . yo>>d u diyait, y! [ e juli] wrthe e inklm creaeygravard. f ioeit d wsn'tfaork .st.. yo ou're tn toexhe nint th g.c lllinicaovy pren trneuogena idraple wrinkr. repai

sit wfah the stestr fetinollaormuil avaable. syou'llouee yng lerkiooking sn n i ojusteene w k.o nek? wee nethis o's k aepeer. wrrapid reinkle pair. fandk or darspotsra onpid tire repa .f utrom nerogena . inj jo fing us aor thesnalysian edd units state robinri wght,th soe wilenn creter he in in washhegton so's als ri contfobutor r "thew ne."yorker andbs c newsor fgnei affairsrr coenespondart margnnet breanis w alsoiths. ubi rortn, stah wit you, two big al depes hapnedes y.terdayor cod,dinate notoo cedrdinat,le

li ting ofcthe sanions. >>l, welnd two a h ayealf arso agitthe untaed stes iednitiat om diplthacy wi iran on the rocontl versiaeanuclogr prram. e at sveryonessi b theyrought upe thofcases me the aricanspr im iisoned an iran after year of g netting polace they edrealizy thete betrst eablish a ff diseerent lat of pyers. as it w so secretha tvet enth oer mb me ters oflehe nucmar tea 't didnab know out it. asit wpo sup bsed toe a plaralletr buack mt toovet air the own pace. t inhe end onelu infdencemo ummentth of e other t cheyameto io fruithen at tti same me. d >>rsickergon: matharet, e onsancti bs haveeente lifd, now apthe sw has hneapped.wh aerewhre -- ere is te hedunit st natesitow wesh rpecto the t b dealout alsat relhiionsthp wi .iran ha>> ttht's ge bi qiouestn. otwho therjohan hnry ker can ea sp tk tohera isnian right now. erthe e arnoat rel wionsithra inth sis ill reay in soy manay w aste stas ce. s let'she how thisea dl plays t, ou ifpe insnsctio areun erfettf ed i toverheex nt ten

phaveseromiod to. dbu 'st itll reay ast queion of, u yo alookhit twos t ways. one,ra ihanians mve aade ne busi hss ofostageak tyoing u ul codrg atue thaas hd paiff o to rthei bitenef.se ccretelhannh wit iranrt staed inhe tst fir placer oveee thr rshike w who tereakenso priner y manyears ago. rehund td athat.>> j andohnas kich.th sis i aum triofph the ramodeintes ra inll reay dipersuaheng tup s lremereade .rsue ththe ifing g youito wth tha meargut'nt i hsard toon ceclud tthaththoug t at phisointca behiuse tass w noto idecalogil al de. wthiscoas ecnomiic choe byir an. it was k oindfoo td haro t tell ifyet s thi isll reay a newge a. it'sin certaewly a n stage thatwe i're atnir u.s.-anianre s.lation>> rs dickecron: sekeetary rry t whendehis asal wnc annoued e we'rng goi toon ctotinue beha rd onn ira oner othss iues as ve we e br haveeen. thwell, stis queionf oes tngtiss miiles,nt iinercontental ll bac istiesmissil i fromran

he if td unitete stains beg asha rd on them ashe tyd sai theyul wod be ahifter tls dea wasag o.reed t>> ra inct condued mleissi tests o inerctob andbe novemicr whh nwere ila viof tion o.nthe u. tiresoluon.as ul a rest ofhe td unitete stas y todapoeg posinan s fctionsor e thosemissil test. thege messa is, we do want tomo o ve intera diffent era, we dont waea to cln thek dec on our a pastarnd dism iran fromt mos ly deadn weapohein tld wor.th e ey havmadegr pro oessnt thaon frunt but taited stes message'r weine gogo t ce ontinuto beug toweh and willos impe new ti sancenons wh warns it. wthat'seyhat thdo have ne. ke>> dicmarson: , rgaret iwhatsth ren eactio tinheio regnn whe d thiswaeal igs shened tre was alo t ofep rnublicain saygt, tha elisrain is gog toak me r,eact dwhat ko wenow about thatre ?action >> well, upo ts thioi pnt guar ament pbout oiecef p.aper e now thasdeal h to poulay t.an

asst cvee orth wheerho tse meargunts about isoran frt ott geeing thay pday,hi wch iranon 0ly 3 bonilli of 100li bilon oiis gong t beui liqotd, n ssneceyarilhe tay pdayha tte som ul worgd aheue ty'reet g.ting we ho wver,noho kwsow hat th y monengis goi b toenv iested in r otheorways fra in.so 's, it goingo te bor stf oit wa and see.t buisthere t some trutho the me argut nt tharwhethesa it's udiab aria,ae isrthl, whet'er isot thhers, reey as lesor wried ou abe t theanuclror p tgramhanth reey aut abomp emeowerfnt o an irco to uentin toer intfere th and ats ihe tirbl proemor f unthe itedte stas.it is iesnter htinghiow wte ehous says thik weewhat hnsappe th wi syria is aernotht tesor f ciran, tanhey bepf helul on the om dipltoacy t endivhe cilar w s inyriahi wchy there air dtec aypliners onhe tun grod. so that i tshe nextt sor ofst te.bu lt stilnc u,learn whe

swhat i the rnselatio thiphat sunitedwitates ell hav with iran.>> rs dicked on: an wwho willick j popeauohn pl rioelatwhnship oin pourt of o we 3 have0 nd secos. rformerh esearcanassistft o s your tone ofhosese relead. >> h yes,e worked m fore in09 20ou, a yanng m whope sntan myye aars innifghastan asl wel as iiraqst kurdian, he had boeen t o iranatn vacthion tough it was stintereeing, h ledearnf bit ofa inrsi ahafgstni wantoanted go gelangua. classs wajustin f uishingp h fisourmo urnth con se whehe wasd pickein un early dr.ecembe ke>> dicthrson: u ank yorobin, t greaofpiece ew the nke yorr.rg ma, aretk thansoyou al for lp heusing st underanthd .is'l

li pol tical.pane ke>> dicwerson: ba're itck w hpa our nel. vi taeys smil on pbs andas hew nbo , ok outtheov cwienant thac blick amer ya, tenatears ler. ch mirsael ge aon ismn coluistfo e r thhi"wasngtostn po."we so're ald joine byly moll bal " oflathe atntic." andhi wasngton buureaef chi of e thst"wall oureet jrnal"ry gerse ib.se

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ciespeallyn whe demtiocrasec ba is. today dtheraemocticas be is in much ff dit eren tmoodithan wasig ehtye agars on whehe tye wert jus nghopio t getid r of or ge. ge w.bush ithiss a rea slort ofin risg balib elance tidin acameri,th sere'ea rlly --l rea senseth anat w ttoh pusgr proveessi da agenie, bernde sanasrs hbe hecome tof sort ik unlelyes msen hieveryt tng forhat.in ha way tt het didn' et,xpec in y a wa ithat dtidn' expect.d anasit h to d wohitil hlary's ci defi aencieshand wnit berse iof ngferi b andesi contsten me e ssage that henreprests havingke taldut abohe tseue isss forec dades. e' thermes sog thinyhillarcl shinton ouldav heon de? atshe's ta the sgeet gngti lot ec of s gondinuessrtg aicles arappe ting inshhe "waingtonpo anst" yd "nework." timesso g methinoushe sheld hav done,se s en thingcomi and o takennsa nders eerarlir ohi sometng? >> ide wonrow h she mustl fee in s2008ashe w- -n i6 201 now

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