dead. these are live pictures now from news chopper 2 which is flying over an active crime scene in a business park in hercules. police right now are searching an area where a vehicle linked to this case was found earlier today. we have not been able to confirm what investigators are looking for. but one person considered to be a victim is still missing and police are expressing concern about his safety. last night, the officers shot and killed this man who they say is the prime suspect. it is 38-year-old efren valdemoro. he tried to evade capture by running into a market in richmond where he was shot and killed. just outside that market, police discovered the body of his girlfriend inside his car. investigators also believe that efren valdemoro is responsible for the deadly beating of an elderly man in hercules last saturday. that man's son who lived with him is the one who is still

missing. he is linked to the death of two women whose bodies were discovered late yesterday inside a home in vallejo. today police arrested the husband of one of those women. our live team coverage of this complex story begins outside the police headquarters. >> reporter: frank, seconders from three different police departments are all meeting to go over this very complex and horrific case. police say that efren valdemoro's girlfriend, 46-year- old cindy tran owned a home on -- late this afternoon, investigators confirmed that it was tran's body they found in the car that efren valdemoro was driving when authorities shot him to death -- just before authorities shot him to death. >> we know she was kidnapped in vallejo, other than that, we are not sure she was a resident of hercules. >> when was she kidnapped.

>> it appeared it was sometime tuesday evening maybe between the 5:00 and 7:00 hour at summer point. >> tran's son told us today that efren valdemoro treated his mother well and never expected he would do something like this. now, tran lives at the home where she rented rooms to two men. one was found beat than to death and one is missing. they are thinking efren valdemoro may have been jealous. >> there was a dispute that involved the victim and the son and the suspect. the dispute was over a concern by the suspect that there may have been something going on between them. >> police say efren valdemoro in the death of two women in this house in vallejo but aren't sure of the motive. now, efren valdemoro has an

expired security guard licensed but apparently unemployed. so far there are four victims and authorities say they fear frederick is in danger of being the 5th. residents in the vallejo neighborhood where two of those victims were found were stunned to learn about the discovery not only of bodies but the explosives of homes where one of those victims lived. >> scary. i'm shaken by the whole thing. >> it's crazy that you see that happening in your own neighborhood, which has been a quiet neighborhood since i've been here, and then you find chemicals and dead people around the corner, it's pretty wild. >> some neighbors also told us suspect killer efren valdemoro would sometimes display strange behavior outside the home late at night. but they say they never believed he was violent. as we mentioned, vallejo police today arrested the husband of one of the two women found dead

in vallejo. 72-year-old charles -- was arrested on an explosive charge and being questioned on the women's death. we are in vallejo with more on that part of the story. >> reporter: did he know there were bodies inside of his house? that is one of many questions detectives are trying to answer tonight. behind me this is the crime scene. at this hour it does remain secure. this is his home where police say two women were found dead and in another twist it's the same house neighbors tell us efren valdemoro once lived: police say these two go friends were reported missing by their husbands. vallejo pd says -- went to the police station sunday to file a report, looking to follow up, the detectives arrived at his home late last night. he led them inside and moments later, two decomposed female bodies were found, one in the bank yard and one inside the home.

>> he's not reacting in a normal way when advised there were bodies in the residence. >> residents had to be evacuated for a short time after a large amount of chemicals were located on-site. investigators were sifting through evidence this afternoon. >> the items that were located appear to be chemicals that are consistent with precursors to manufacture explosives. >> neighbors say the 72-year- old was quiet and kept to himself. >> the old guy, he just seemed normal. >> but neighbor patrick nicholas says another man also lived off and on with him and his wife carroll. his name, efren valdemoro. >> he was always weird. that's why i was staying away from him action ---- kind of. but i never really thought of him killing anyone. it's shocking but also i think that he's capable of that. >> reporter: vallejo police say the 72-year-old is a chemical

engineer and one possible reason for possession of those explosive making materials. right now he is not charged with murder in connection to the death of those two women who at this hour still have not beneficially identified. i spoke to carroll smart's husband earlier today. he declined a comment for this story. autopsies are scheduled to be performed tomorrow. reporting live tonight here in vallejo. and now as we told you, the top of this newscast, police are searching an area of hercules right now. we are told it does have to do with this murder spree. we do have a reporter and we will check in with her about 6:30, so stay with us. we are now less than hour away from the first and possibly the only u.s. senate debate. at 7:00 tonight you can watch the one hour commercial free debate between boxer and fiorina. we are the sponsor of the debate and -- is the moderator.

we have live team coverage both inside and outside the auditorium on the campus of saint march -- saint mary's college. >> reporter: well as you said, in less than one hour, senator boxer and fiorina will take to this stage at saint mary's college for their debate. the only scheduled debate so far prior to the november election. now the stage layout should look familiar. you can see some people doing some last minute touches. it should look familiar. podiums, moderator as you mentioned. the questions will be asked by three journal itself sitting at this table. now, in addition the debate organizers which includes us, have -- voters that will be presented to the candidates live on at the same time. now, the campaigns have negotiated dozens of rules. here are a few notes on the

format. fiorina will have the first opening statement. that was decided by a coin toss. the candidates will have 90 seconds to respond to questions, questions by the debate sponsors. now 44 of the seats in the auditorium will be filled by supporters of boxer and fiorina. the remaining seats will be invited guests. the debate starts at 7:00 and it runs one hour. now, as i saiders those insides of the auditorium were invited but there are people here who want their voices heard could not not get inside the auditor yes, ma'am. they are -- for more on that sr.y, we go to -- story we go to -- >> well, ken, just in the past hour, this group has grown to be more than 60, 70 people. at last count. they just kind of came up around our cameras in the past

couple of minutes. this is the group that could not get in today. they did not have those tickets that you mentioned and they started gathering about 4:30 to protest outside. as you mentioned this is by invitation only. and around 3:00, campus police began putting up barriers to make sure people couldn't get in and through the campus. so far, there have been a mix of those supporters, but when it first started the people out there were mostly members of the tea party and fiorina's backers. and right now we are against boxer and anyone going against boxer at this point has our backing as far as you know helping out. >> protesting that the public is not invited to the debate. it's closed, invite ees only. we are afraid the way the government is going that we're heading to social itself dictator ship. i'm thinking this is where it's

going. >> reporter: as i mentioned, most of the fiorina supporters were here earlier. joining me now is a boxer supporter. >> i care about patient safety, as a nurse for 30 years, that's my primary goal, the patient's need to be safe, the boxer is our best friend in washington. she cares about patients and patient safety. fiorina does not care about patient safety. >> how many people do you have out here today? >> i think we have about 30 people. >> okay. so california nurses association we have also seen people from other groups protesting because they couldn't get in. sa lot of them -- a lot of them say they are going to stay here until the debate ends at 8:00. reporting live. again you can watch that

debate between boxer and fiorina beginning at 7:00 tonight. cause no. see it live right here -- you can see it live. well, the heat has returned too much of the bay area. i was over 90 degrees in san jose today where a lot of people tried to find shelter from the sun. air quality officials have declared tomorrow another spare the air day. they are asking people to cut back on their driving and any activity that could increasey mission. more on this. nothing like last week. we had numbers up in the 105, 110-degree range. today we're talking about low 90s and some mid-90s as well. temperatures in san francisco into the 80s. oakland, alameda, right now almost 890 degrees. very very warm day.

liver more, 94 degrees. that's right now. we check out san jose, you many see 90 degrees there. what's hatch ---- what's happening? well high pressure is taking over. it is another spare the air day again tomorrow and at this point it could be almost as warm as it was today. specifics i will see you back here. >> you can always check conditions on where you live on our website,. governor schwarzenegger speaks out on whether a special legislative session is needed to deal with california's budget crisis. police patrol through this san francisco district is not getting a lot of support from city officials. we will explain why coming up.

it may be the end of the line for a police force in san francisco. police officers are basically hired peace officers but resently they have been stirring a lot of controversy. we are in san francisco where the police commission is meeting tonight, david. >> reporter: julie the patrol program dates back to the gold rush days. tonight city officials are calling for it to end. john is one of 31 arm patrol special police officers trained in part by the san francisco police department but hired by private clients. they isn't supposed to cost taxpayers. but a new controllers office report says administering the program actually costs 30 3,000 dollars annually. it says patrol specialists are too often mistaken for sworn officers. >> the city has been trying to enforce on that subject and make them wear a uniform that

distinguishes them. >> reporter: they ignore regular ta lower rules and -- regulatory rules and -- such as this one outside a former north beach nightclub. >> when my officers are out in the field, they have communications, these patrol specialists get themselves involved in some kind of gun battle, there is no one going to back them up unless they dial 9-1-1. >> reporter: they say it's a 15 year long effort to do away with it. >> we believe it's just a competition thing for services, for security services, for police services. >> reporter: mere chance said the patrols make the city safer and shouldn't alter the uniform. >> i think if the uniform is say a light blew, it might look funny and people wouldn't take it seriously.

>> the report says they should be removed from the city charter, san francisco's police commission will take up that report tonight. reporting live in san francisco, david stevenson. governor schwarzenegger today says he seize no -- sees no need to call -- after lawmakers killed rival plans this week. they voted down two budget proposals on their lay -- last day. california is facing a 19 billion-dollar short fall. >> this is what you need to do, just take the money off the table completely. because then you have consequences, as long as you have no consequences, you will never have a budget in time. >> legislative leaders from both sides along with the governor will return to negotiations in an effort to work out a compromise. the budget is way over due, 6 three days. this could set a record if it

goes past september. a lawsuit has been filed to try to force the attorney general to defend proposition 8's ban on same sex marriage in court. they say california's government code did he clears the attorney general and governor shall defend the state against all legal challenges. a federal judge overturned prop. 8 says it was unconstitutional. >> he's not just the private citizen, he's the attorney general. it's his responsibility to defend the laws, all of the laws under the provision of the state constitution whether he likes it or not. >> the attorney general's spokeswoman says he believes he can't be forced to appeal a decision he agrees with. the board met this afternoon to hear details of a proposal to reduce service on all lines, cut weekend service in half, and trim overnight service by two-thirds. earlier this summer, ac transit

tried to impose a labor contract on union drivers in order to safe money but a judge deemed that move illegal. the board is expected to vote on the service cuts on september 22nd. firefighters are mopping upright now after a grass fire threatened homes on the eastern side of american canyon and vallejo this afternoon. the 30--acre fire began just after 3:00 p.m. strong winds pushed the fire away from subdivisions on the line between the two cities. firefighters say if the winds had shifted the fire could have quickly engulfed homes in both places. they will remain on the scene overnight to watch for any hotspots. you can see from those pictures there the flames were lit i just -- literally just a couple of feet from those homes. conditions today without a lot of wind were helpful for firefighters as we move into the next couple of days, temperatures trend down a little bit and that's good news. if you are concerned about fire

and air quality outside right now we've got a little bit of a west wind out there by the golden gate bridge and you can see, i will stick it up there for you. so it's coming back on. the winds last night at this time were north northwest. it's going to be another warm day tomorrow but the winds will cool things off in many locations, could increase the temperature in a document of places, but -- couple of place is but tomorrow just like today. cooler still as we head into your friday. i got warmer here and i think someplace is might be but i think it's going to be an even deal. someplace is may cool down a litt. i will change that and make it for the same. forecast in the morning hours, low 60s, 60 in fremont. 60 in liver more. your forecast for the rest of your day tomorrow will be warmer in many locations as i mentioned especially inland. and along the coast with that sea breeze we can see temperatures trend down just a little bit. but basically this high

pressure sticks around. fire danger will be elevated. air quality not so great. in the forecast as you move through the bay area tomorrow, just like today. so warmer than it has been, certainly if -- saturday, sunday, monday, remember how cool it was, tomorrow we many find some low 100s. when you get on the fringe counties, you're going to find 100 degrees. 95 in nap pa. the week is moving by rapidly. you can see the temperatures will be very warm. it's nothing like what we experienced last week because you do remember that. it was hot. we had heat advice ---- advisories. not the way it is this time. this is warmer than it has been. no records in the forecast. >> looks like the weekend is going to be nice. >> thank you, bill. well oakland's police chief issues a stern warning who

helped the suspect in the shooting of a police officer. students at one high school rolled up their sleeves today to help that seriously wounded officer. we will have those stories coming up.

oaklandy police chief today warned that anyone who helped the suspect will be arrested. to do young was -- todd young was shot while trying to serve

a seven -- search warrant. chief anthony -- said today -- was also arrested accused of trying to get him over the border. >> anyone who came in contact with him, we are charging them with a crime. anyone who assisted them, anyone who housed them. anyone who tried to take care of him, we will prosecute them to the fullest. >> he faces a number of charges including attempted murder. students at santa clara high school head a blood drive today in support of officer young who graduated from that school in 1989. the drive has been very successful. >> they come in and they are like, i'm afraid of needles but then we explain to them how important this is to us, because this is our way to reach out to officer young and they get over it. >> 250 people donated blood at the school this afternoon. another blood drive was held for officer young at san jose

city hall today. police are investigating the killing of a man who was shot to death after he answered his doorbell. the shooting took place shortly before 10:00 last night. investigators say the gunman range the bell and then shot the man as he stood in the doorway. the man's wife was struck in the elbow by a bullet. police have not made any arrests in this case and have not released the victim's identity. a bill that would have made it a crime to openly carry a loaded weapon in california died. -- as long as it is not loaded and is in a holster or a case. the senate approved the bill which would have made is a misdemeanor. but the assembly rejected in a -- the bill was written and response tory sent carry demonstrations across the

state. some students are putting a positive spin on graffiti. today marked the first day of classes for about 40 at-risk youth. the students spread out across the community, placing graffiti art on buildings. they say the goal is to help young people find positive ways to express and celebrate art. >> graffiti gets a lot of attention, for me, learning how to do it better helps me because i want to be a better artist. >> the program is a click collaboration between the mural music arts program and the police department. it is a story that is still developing. the very confusing murder spree taking yet another turn tonight. we're going to check in at an active search going object right now in hercules. there are late-breaking developments. that search is wrapping up. we will have the very latest from the scene including what

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this is channel 2 news at 6:00. try to figure out what happened. >> investigators in three bay area cities are trying to connect a multitude of dots tonight in what appears to be a killing spree that left at least four people and one suspect dead. last night, the police shot and killed the prime suspect, 38- year-old efren valdemoro. one man is in custody on an explosives charge and right now investigators are trying to sort out in that man is

connected to the killing. new developments involving a search at a hercules business park. it's where a vehicle was reportedly found earlier today that is tied to one of the victims in this bizarre case. we are joined now in hercules with the latest on that search. >> reporter: in the last two minutes, we talked with police here and got an update. i want 0 to show you where we are. as we zoom in, they have blocked off this street, this is the closest we can get. you can see where they had sevenners out here, rescue crewsenned a tents. news chopper 2 is overhead. this is where this white cadillac was found earlier today. this could be key evidence in this case. searchers have been around this area all afternoon trying to determine if there is more than just the vehicle out here. we have video that we took in just the last 15 minutes, it

shows that white cadillac being captured or being put rather on to a flatbed truck and again this could be key evidence in this case. this truck, the cadillac belonged to rita allen. she is one of the women who was found dead in her home in vallejo. it's a very complicated case but we want to try to break it down for you. to give you an idea of where it was found, it was just about a half a mile away from the initial crime scene in hercules. now that home is where 73-year- old -- was found dead. his son, a 35-year-old is considered missing. still missing at this hour. we did just talk to hercules police and they say at this point they have not found the 35-year-old, they are just wrapping up this search here. they just removed that vehicle. they say at this point, they did not find anything here linking it to the younger son. they say the vehicle was in good season and it appears to have driven here but this is a

very is he included area and it was found behind the business park. it could have been here for some time. they also say that it's sure rounded by a lot of open space. at this hour, there is no world -- word of the 35-year-old. s the only one missing at this hour. that is the last of latest -- tonight police are questioning a vallejo man who is the husband of one of the two women found dead. investigators say that he reported that his wife and her friend were missing. he reported that on sunday night. police followed up last night and one found one decomposing body inside the home and another inside the yard. >> it's safe to say he's not reacting a normal way when advised there were bodies in his residence. >> they combed the property and found chemicals that can be used to make explosives there.

the 72-year-old was arrested on an explosives charge. investigators are now looking into what he knew about the bodies and of course efren valdemoro who neighbors said lived there on and off. we have complete coverage much the efren valdemoro, the on going investigates of the two bodies and explosives, it's on our website, we will constantly be updating is with late- breaking information. in just 25 minutes, the top two contenders will face off in their only scheduled debate. this is alive look outside saint mary's college where they will debate, as you can see from this live picture right now, a lot of protesters have gathered at the campus to agreed the two candidates and these protesters say they will remain here on the saint mary's campus through the debate which starts at 7ening this evening and runs through 8ening. getting back to the candidates,

they are expected to arrive any minute. our political editor randy will mod rate tonight's debate. you can watch it live. the action begins at 7:00. we will also be streaming this debate live fewer job opportunities have slowed the flow of illegal immigrants into the united states. that's a report released today. it found 1 -- in the united states in the year 2009. that is down from the peak of 12 million just two years earlier. the center says 300,000 immigrants sneak into this country every year, a significant drop from the 850,000 annually during the first half of this decade. the mangled for fighting with the taliban in afghanistan said his religious rights are being violated in prison. he and a fellow muslim inmate

have filed a request for a judge to allow them to play together during ramadan. -- a prison rule requiring them to pray alone in their cells in the same room where they go to the bathroom goes against i see ---- islamic law. coming up, details on a $600 million settlement involving botox. also ahead, how well do you sleep, not just shut eye could kill you. and it depends on

the california company that makes botox will pay $650 million. it was announced today and must still than be approved by a judge. they paid doctors kick backs and instructed them how to bill for using botox to treat conditions it's not approved for such as headaches and -- not enough sleep can kill you, a startling study published today is bad news for both who like to burn the candle at both ends. for more on who is at risk and what can be done, who is live in san francisco with more on this. >> reporter: about a third of us according to researchers have problems sleeping.

and about one in three will also have medical problems because of inso many in a -- insomnia. doctors say this generation sleeps less than any previous. i get five hours every night. >> i have difficulty falling asleep, and then i have difficulty staying asleep. >> reporter: they studied 1800 people for more other than a decade. men who sleep less than six hours a night are more than four times to die early. >> if you can't get the proper amount of sleep, your body can't recover. >> reporter: it had no such effect on women. >> men and women are wired differently obviously. >> women are just better add adjusting and better at dealing with stress. >> maybe they are built to do without sleep because of

childcare. >> the reality is that sleeping is a learned behavior. you can learn to sleep properly. >> in rooms such as this one, people unlearn bad reactions and form new crews to restful sleep. >> two-thirds of them are sleeping better and no longer relying on medication. >> reporter: researchers previously showed that cutting back sleep two hours a night for one week increased risks for heart attack. this is he wrench should alert physicians that it is far more than just a new ---- even if genetics are against you, a new study finds that exercise may still be the best way to battle obesity. there are 12 genetics links. then they tracked the physical

levels. they found that exercise reduced a person's genetic tendency by 40%. scientists say challenges the notion that obesity may be unavoidable for some people. cleanup and treatments started along the red would city shore where raw sewage has been spilled. apple products are very popular. the heat is on today but a cool down is headed back to the bay area. we have the forecast coming up. horn honks, indistin conversations

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water treatment efforts began today at the redwood shores lagoon following that spill of 48,000 gallons of raw sewage last week. crews began putting a cleaning agent in the water that objection dieses he of e. coli bacteria. the chemical is not harmful to wildlife and disanticipates in just an hour. much -- dissipates? just an hour. evacuations are under way in north carolina tonight as the region braces for the arrival of hurricane earl. the storm will restrengthen today to a category 4 hurricane with sustained winds of 135 miles an hour. mandatory evacuation orders have been issued. hurricane earl is expected to brush the outer banks of north carolina by friday. back here in the bay area,

things sure did heat up today. >> yeah, certainly warmer than it hand. temperatures if next few days are going to stay about the same. outside right now, we've got san francisco, the airport at 85. this real time wind observation at the golden gate bridge. that's on the south tower. the winds are west southwest gusting to 20. that's important pause that northerly component is start than to week than. very warm tomorrow still. fog will be here in the next couple of days. temperatures should be about the same or a little cooler. this is nothing like the heat that we experienced last week when we saw temperatures in the record range. so tomorrow, 70s along the coast. mid-90s and upper 90s in the inland bay valley. air quality is no the so great.

it's a spare the air day tomorrow. that's the second in a row. your forecast high, the air quality will be the worst is out there at 97 in danville. walnut creek and -- these are your thursday forecast numbers. about the same as today. friday you will notice further cooling as well. more of an onshore flow. it does feel like fall, doesn't it? so we're back in that sort of -- it almost feels like an october weather pattern. i will be back tonight at 10:00 and we will take a look at the forecast. but definitely today is probably the warmest of the week. apple if i nationallics are -- if i nationallic -- tech fans were packed today as they announced a new nano with only touch screen controls. there is also a new ipodtouch,

it's thinner with a higher resolution display similar to the iphone. >> it is the best display in the world. and that's what everyone said who has seen it on the iphone. it is now in the ipodtouch. >> and there is more. jobs says a software upgrade out next week will fix the reception bugs in the iphone 4. and an upgrade in -- will support new features. and a new smaller and easier device is coming to stream movies and tv shows from the internet to your celtics. is the -- television -- the yankees and the a's. it's been a rough first two games. a's tried to even things up. doing a better job of the first two games than the series. there is one particular guy they haven't figured out how to pitch too. mark texeria has got their number. off the board in the 1st

inning. got himself and rbi double. off anderson, maybe another yankee blowout on the way when texeria comes to the plate again. wraps another clean bass hit. in comes another run. the a's are managing to make a ballgame out of it. and this guy's swing had a whole lot to do with it. kouzmanoff deep and over and off. two-run shot. they are trailing in yankees to the tune of 4-3 in the bottom of the 8th inning. tomorrow, the 49ers and the raiders are going to wrap up their preseason. the raiders making news for other reasons however. big report coming out of arizona that the raiders may be interested in former heisman trophy winner matt leinart. he lost his job as the starting quarterback in arizona, to anderson, they may be trying to acquire leinart along with the new york giants and the bills were also said to be

interested. the raiders denied the report. they say they are perfectly happy with their current quarterback situation. meantime, team usa off to a great start so far in the world basketball championship. 88-51 team usa wins. curry with the assist right there to chaning. you will see the warriors star guard on the scoring end right there. they are moving on to the round of 16. even the sharks making some news today. they are on the verge of signing signing -- in a four-game sweep. and he is satisfied to be ready to sign a -- satisfied to be ready -- with the sharks. the chicago blackhawks, you figure why would they get rid of that guy? well, he was out of their price range. they have major salary cap

problems and so far tim lincecum off to a pretty good start tonight. when i walked into the studio, it was 0-0 against colorado. so ease pitched two scoreless innings so far, he needs a win as do the giants because the padres lost again today. >> all right. good deal. some surprising news from manufacturers led to gains on wall street today. reports that american indochinese manufacturing made strides in august. the dow jones rose nearly 255 points today. the nasdaq was up nearly 6 three points. auto sales are in a summer slump. gm says it's sales were down 7% in august compared with july. ford reported a 5% drop and toyota saw sales slip 12% last month. year to year the numbers were even worst. last year they were boosted by

the government's program. experts say buyers are too worried about the economy. californians plan to get away this weekend. more than 4 million californians will travel over the labor daweekend. that's up 11% from last year. they expect three and a half million to travel by car and 170,000 to take a train to their designation. although reservations are up at vacation spots, triple a says most travelers plan to visit friends and family. we are now just minutes away from the first and possibly the only debate with the senate candidates boxer and fiorina. live comp ranch -- coverage coming upright after the break.

we are less than ten minutes a way now from the debate between boxer and fiorina. this is the only scheduled debate between the two cap datz for senate. -- candidates for senate. let's start outside with our reporter. >> reporter: well let me tell you, the debates are already beginning out here. we have members of the california nurses association who have come out in support of barbara boxer as well as people with the seiu then we also have for in a supporters and --

fiorina supporters and members of the tea party out here. they have been going face to face for the past hour and a half or so. and then across the street, you can see they have security members who have been here trying to keep order. it has gotten bigger. i've counted up to about 100 people who are out here right now at the entrance to where the debate is. now across the street over there, i want to tell you, one of the other candidates who are on the ballot in november for the peace and freedom party, they have brought signs out with their candidates protesting that they were not allowed into the debate because it is just between fiorina and boxer. we also understand that you can see there are people over there with the red jackets, those are security guards that have been brought in by campus police just to try and keep order out here, these people say they will be out here until this debate ends and it could get pretty heated outside as well

as inside. reporting live. we're going to send it to ken, who i understand is inside the debate area. what do you see there? that's right. we are inside sainmary's college theatre. if the audience pays attention, we should have a wrapped crowd watching very closely everything that the senator and the challenger have to say tonight. there are 400 seats here and they are all full. the candidates arrived within the hour, senator barbara boxer seeking her fourth term as senator facing antiincumbent mood across the country, this could be one of her toughest challenges of her career. fiorina coming in as the republican candidate, former ceo of -- that gives her a better understanding of the businesses world and that could help change california's economy. we are just a few minutes away from the start of this debate.

and we will be moderate also and we expect some fireworks tonight because neither candidate agree on very much. live at saint mary's. all right. it is an hour-long debate. we will also be streaming it live on our website. west we leave you, more live pictures from outside the debate. thanks for joining us. >> good night.