use to get down into the water. right below that ladder is a tunnel underwater, a tube underwater about 15 feet wide. that is where the sheriff's department located the suspect's car this morning. they used an underwater camera which was able to read the license plate of that car which is now trapped in that tube underwater to make a positive identification. now the dive teams have back up. those back up dive members are sitting on board including the two divers. ken as i said, this car is at the bottom of a tunnel. the car is the same one used in the abduction of 4-year-old juliani cardenas kidnapped a week ago from his home. a witness spotted the car with a man and child inside dive into the canal a short distance away from our location 45

minutes after the abduction. the dive team searched this area before but missed the car. the job now is for the divers to dive into the tube, it is essentially like diving in an underwater cave. >> the problem is even with the water that was reduced. the flow that's reduced there's still a lot of water coming through those blocks. so challenges are the water 72 degrees, the strength and current of the water, zero visibility, all of those challenging factors make this dive very complex and very dangerous. >> now ken i said that i saw those divers come out of water about five minutes ago. the question we are waiting to get answered is if they were able to latch on to that car and that tube and also it's an open question as to whether or not there's other debris that

they will have to remove first. it's possible that there are additional cars in that underwater tube. it is also very important to note that while that sonar camera was able to read that license plate and identify that car, that camera was not able to see inside of the car. so we do not know if there are any bodies locateed in that car. and right now we see the tow truck there, looks like the crews are gathered around there. we just -- at this point awaiting to hear whether or not they were able to secure a cable on to that car. at which point once they do that they should be able to pull out in short order. reporting live in stanislaus county. >> i understand there's a race against time as far as today goes. once the sun goes down the divers can't be down there. the idea is to try to locate the vehicle, hook it up and pull it out before the sun goes down. >> that's correct, it's possible to dive at night but

that's not the only race time at issue here. they have lowered the canal and in truth what they are not doing is lowering the canal, they are reducing the flow of water here in the delta menota canal. there's only a window of time to do that, and that window is about to close. if they are not able to get the car out of there in a two hour window. then the water will have to be released at its normal level. then it will be another four hours before they can reset it. they may try to lower it again tonight about four or five hours from now and give it another try. the team is not sure if they'll be able to do it. >> reporter: ken pritchett live at the mendota canal. the news that the vehicle has been found followed quickly through juliani's hometown of

patterson. >> reporter: we're in front of the house where juliani cardenas was ripped from the arms of his grandmother. and today there's a note on their door asking for privacy. >> this is a loving home, the child is the light in that house. >> reporter: jose rodriguez the ex-girlfriend of juliani's mother grabbed the boy 10 days ago and sped off. the boy's mother assured that the car would not be found in the canal but today it was. >> there's a lot more evil in the world. i tell my kids, they don't believe it, but it can happen to anybody. >> reporter: the abduction has brought the community together, there has been searches and vigils and people bringing over food. >> it's the most frightening

thing you can imagine. i think it's, you want to help and this is the way the people are doing it. they are finding ways to help in this situation. and it's absolutely appreciated by the family. >> reporter: so right now juliani's family is inside the house hoping and praying. in patterson, rob roth, ktvu channel 2 news. >> reporter: meantime in san jose, early this afternoon the mother of suspect jose rodriguez said she was very upset when she heard the car had been found. >> they said there was no bodies found yet, so i really can't give a full interview on what's going on until they you know bring the car out. actually and stuff. so right now, i don't have any more comments to say until the car has come out of the canal. >> reporter: through the media, avila has pleaded with her son

to turn himself in. and here's a time line of the events, it was one week ago tuesday jose rodriguez pulled juliani cardena from his grandmother's arms. juliani's family held a prayer vigil. by wednesday of this week, crews had pulled ten vehicles out of the canal but none were the suspect's vehicle. today just before noon, authorities found the suspect's car out of the canal. >> you can follow the latest development, ktvu.com just click on the cardenas tab when you get to our home page. in other news tonight, in egypt there's protest on the streets as protesters call for a new egypt.

u.s. officials demand that he ramp up democratic reforms. thousandsover anti government demonstrators ignored a nighttime curfew running, chanting and throwing rocks in the streets of cairo and alexandria. late today he finally spoke to the nation. numbara condemned the violence and announced he will replace his cabinet. president obama had this reaction just a short time ago. >> i just spoke to him after his speech. i told him he has a responsibility to give meaning to those words. to take concrete steps and actions that deliver on that promise. violence will not address the grievances of the egyptian people. >> all day u.s. officials have demanded that egypt enact concrete democratic reforms. the white house also threatened to cut off a billion and a half dollars in foreign aid to the e

skwreups egyptian government. >> and david peterson spoke to several egyptians in the bay area and here is what they say. >> it's not good. the whole place is on fire. >> reporter: as an associates professor. >> every egyptian in the bay area is much like myself, paralyzed today. >> reporter: she's relying on land lines to reach her parents because the egyptian government has cut off cell phone service. >> i really, really strongly disagree with what's going on

in terms of cutting off people's communication. it's just making them panic. >> reporter: one possible resource to help connect loved ones is now gone from the bay area. the egyptian consulate left san francisco for los angeles next summer. mosba says he cannot reach family and friends because of a shut down of internet service. >> it sparked over facebook and twitter that's why the government, the first or the initial reaction was to shut down facebook and twitter. now they shut down completely the, they shut down the internet completely. >> others he hoped the egyptian owners of san francisco's craved city pizzaria say the demonstrations are long overdue. >> people want democracy. how come the president is there for 30 years, no elections, nothing. >> reporter: bay area egyptians will rally tomorrow to show their support for the people in their home country. that event is set for noon on

market and montgomery street here in san francisco. david stevenson, ktvu channel two news. now to the east bay where police are searching for a second suspect in the involving an alleged kidnapping. police found her 2.5 hours later in east oakland. investigators say that a second suspect managed to get away. anyone with information on this case is asked to contact police. a san mateo county judge scheduled the february 18th probation hearing. marco vargas ortiz was given a -- a morganhill man is facing

charges of sexually molesting a 13-year-old boy. police officers met evans at a sister starbucks and asked him to go to the police station for questioning. evans told police he did not guilty want to go back to jail but ran. he was hit by a van but kept running. police caught up to evans later and took him to jail. the president of pacific gas and electric has said the company cannot find crucial records on 35% of their pipelines. a federal report last week revealed that the pipeline that exploded in san bruno had bad welds. pg & e apparently did not know those welds were there. >> if pg & e doesn't have the records, that's incompetent. if the company they contracted with didn't make pipes that are

safe, that's incompetent. i don't think the taxpayers should have to pay the price for that. living with the fear of being beaten up at work. that's the scary reality for employees at napa state hospital, tonight sounding off about danger and death. and bay area weekend is here. i have showers to talk about. it's going to rain for part of the weekend. i'll show you what cities will get the wettest.

people who do what could be one of the most dangerous jobs in the state are pleading for change tonight. not police officers or firefighters here but workers in state hospitals for the mentally ill. ktvu's debra villalone live up in napa where neighbors are describing being attacked. >> describing being knocked,

being knocked unconscious. bones broken all at the hands of patients it's their job to help. bells ring in honor of a nurse killed by a patient. >> he hit me, attempted to hit me and did hit me in the head with a full force hit. >> reporter: psychiatrist alders had only been at work for a week. the ones that are violent -- >> if there's a group of patient who is have four or more assaults a month for six months in a row, who are still here. >> workers shared their concerns in this town hall forum held with two state lawmakers today. some reforms could be written into law.

funds for cameras and alarms and more hospital police. >> other changes could come immediately. the way napa state runs itself. >> you have to keep those that are trouble behind offense and not allow them in the common areas. >> it seems like common sense. >> it does. >> reporter: as far as costs, workers point out napa state had 400 workers compensation requests. but patients are attacked more, i'll explain that at 6:00. the adopted son of the former director of the mental state hospital testified his father is a monster who a abused him for years. his son was 13 at the time of the adoption. and says he was afraid he would be sent back to foster care if

he turned in his father. he left home when he was 21 and said today faulk destroyed his life. >> the sierra snow pack is still 25% above average. the state department of water resources today took his monthly measurement about 9 miles east of sacramento. it shows a snow depth of 56- inches. water watchers say if february is also dry, california could quickly drop below average. let's find out what's going on with the weather. chief meteorologist bill martin is in the weather room. >> we have a dry saturday and a wet sunday. i'll get to that but first we go outside. live storm tracker number two, here we are. kind of a little wet half of a

weekend there. the forecast though before that is some more fog. there was a dose of it this morning. i talked about it last night because two things happened. we had the valley fog which was ramped up to dense fog advisory levels and then the wind shifted. so offshore in the ocean, the coastal fog came in. you have nasty morning commute. that's what happened this morning, that's what could happen again tomorrow morning. it's not a commute morning, but both kinds of fog. one is coastal fog and one is radiation fog. and when they come together, creates issues. especial out on the bay for boaters, for mariners. very low visibilities. that's tomorrow morning, cooler for the weekend, sunday showers, a dry pattern after this. the storm looks like a one hit deal. it's not a big storm either. on a scale of one to two it's a one or six. quarter inch to half inch of rain tops. there's the valley fog, there's

the coastal fog, and when those two link up they are slow to clear. like in concord today or antioch where temperatures in the low 50s, at best. it was a cool one out there. when i come back, i'll have the latest computer model to go, i'll be back here in just a little bit. travelers in san francisco airport would like a free drink of water now have a new option. two new filling stations taps were installed this week in terminal three. the filling stations are the first to be installed at u.s. airports. it's kind of an effort to stop the plastic water consumption in san francisco to keep plastic containers from the

ocean. and the girl scouts are cutting out several cookies. the sales will simplify the process and earn more cash for the scouts. the three favorite are simoans, thin mints and tag alongs. and a house goes up in flames. find out what authorities say may have sparked the blaze. and the pentagon reveals new information on how it plans to release don't ask don't tell. and we'll take a look back at the challenger disaster of 25 years ago today. new at 6:00, we're staying on top of developments surrounding details on a missing 4-year-old little boy. and we're here at nasa to talk to space enthusiasts about looking back and looking ahead. tonight on ktvu channel 2 news at 6:00.

today the pentagon has unveiled a new plan showing that gays and lesbians could be openly serving in the military by next year. today the pentagon said a plan to implement the new law will be ready if seven days. then in early february the military begins a training program focusing on professionism and represent. some servicemen say the troops will have no problems adapting. >> really it's going to be treated as any other bureaucratic change. >> reporter: once the president and defense secretary certified the training is complete, it will be another 60 days before the military officially repeals don't ask don't tell. >> tonight the country's

marking the 25th anniversary of the challenger disaster. while nasa today said fear of failure should not hold back the mission, the agency is also marking one of its darkest days. >> three, two, one and lift off. >> reporter: against the clear blue sky, triumpht turned to tragedy. >> i remember looking up and adulting telling children to oh stop that, stop it. >> reporter: but nasa knew something had gone terribly wrong. >> obviously a major malfunction. >> among the seven astronauts

on board, the first teacher going into space calling the trip a field trip. >> i don't think a teacher had ever been more ready. >> reporter: president reagan cancelled that night's state of the union address and spoke to the region on what was on their minds. >> we will never forget them on the last time we saw them this morning. as they prepared for their journey and said goodbye. >> reporter: coming up on ktvu channel 2 news at 6:00, what people in the bay area are saying about that day and how they think the space program should live on. you can go to our news section of the website. and fire crews found marijuana growing supplies in a burning house. ktvu brought you pictures of the fire first thing tomorrow morning. flames spread to the attic and

collapsed the roof. no one was home but a firefighter went to the hospital with minor injuries. two hours ago, danville police said their central narcotics enforcement team will take over the investigation because firefighters found machineries used to grow pot. and that danville house fire was the first incident pwroád cast on a new iphone application. the app helps alert people about fire emergencies. that includes trained people who can get to the fire before firefighters. the car has been found in the juliani cardenas kidnapping. we've been following this story all day, we have details coming up. >> and a fixture project in

california is set to begin. how soon it could impact your commute.

this is a live look here at what's happening at the delta mendota canal. we just spoke with our ken pritchett who's been there at the scene. he says divers went back into the waeter 20 minutes ago. that car has been identified as belonging to juliani's alleged abductor. it's a dangerous and daring operation they are doing here: it involves a single diver trying to attach a line between the car and a tow truck. back up divers are also in the water to help get that car out. but it's really wedged in there we're told. earlier today, divers were able to see the car's license plate

and police says the the one used by rodriguez. >> we do not know at this point what is in that vehicle and most likely we won't know what's in the vehicle if anything until we get it out of the water. >> reporter: the dive team is really racing against time here. they've only got a narrow window in which to work. the water is going to start rising again in just about 30 minutes from now. you can follow the development in the search for juliani cardenas all evening. we have a special section on ktvu.com, when you're there just look for a tab labeled cardenas. it is the end of an era. the bridge digit voted to eliminate poll takers. we spoke to some of the poll takers who aren't happy with that change. >> they have been taking money here for decades but today it was decided that it's time to take aware their jobs. the technology is moving in. the toll takers are moving out.

>> reporter: the golden gate bridge, thousands cross it every day. >> it's hard to find a job. >> reporter: ed reed has commuted through the bridge for 28 years, it is her place of work, her home away from home. >> every time you turn on the tv you see the bridge. this is a part of me. >> reporter: today the bridge district's board of directors voted 13-2 to eliminate dynett's job and the jobs of 32 other toll takers as early as next year. the decision is part of a plan to eventually collect all tolls electronically. the district is facing an $89 million deficit says eliminating the toll takers will save them $100 million a year. >> it's unfair to them that they lose their jobs. >> i think it's worth the savings, but i regret that people are going to lose their jobs, there's great people there. >> i've been here 23 years, and

yes i have a son. and it's truly sad because we are truly a family. >> reporter: two sisters working together for decades, now unsure about their future yet grateful for the past. >> we give people direction, we have helped people from jumping off the bridge, we've helped people with emergencies. >> reporter: mike mibach. people who have been out of work for a while got a chance to attend a job boot camp. >> they say insanity is doing things over and over again without results. i realize that i have to do something new.

>> reporter: greg johnson lost his job as an administrative assistant three years ago. he was one of hundreds of people who turned out for the job search boot camp. labor experts say some employers in the bay area are still hiring. >> this wall is home health care aids. it's one of the fastest growing jobs in those counties. >> reporter: officials with the employment development department say marin county has the lowest jobless rate in the bay area at 7.9%. the highest is in santa clara, contra costa and alameda county all in the 10% range. today's event was the fourth jobs boot camp spear headed by jackie spear. she'll hold another camp in april. today marked the start of what organizers are calling the bay area's largest free tax assistance program. they help people fill out their tax form and also see if they

qualify for the earned income tax credit. the program is paid in part by the united way. congresswoman barbara lee says those taxpayers got a total of $57 million in taxes. >> these benefits allow working family, men and women to put more of their hard earned money back into their pockets, and bank accounts and ultimately into their community. any bay area household that earned $45,000 last year qualifies for this free tax service. already people are protesting the city managers decision about the person set to take over a top spot. janine de la vega has the report. >> reporter: this concerns a survey taken by 1,300 people in the community asking them what they wanted to see in the next

chiefment chief. and they say it's not acting chief moore. >> the mayor not ratify the city council's decision. >> i was very disappointed because the community clearly spoke in the surveys that they wanted someone from outside of the community. >> reporter: these community groups were invited by the city to interview both candidates as part of the selection process. the city manager has not announced moore as a chief, but anthony bats confirmed he had not been chosen. >> i think bats is the better candidate based on our research. >> reporter: activists have been outspoken on the position. >> judging on that as an individual -- >> sergeant bobby lopez says

moore is liked anrespected in the department. while he admitted moral is low, there's still a sense of optimism now that a new leader has been chosen. >> i think it's going to get a relief from the officers. a sense that maybe something is going to move forward because everyone is just on pins and needles trying to figure out what's going to go on with their future. >> reporter: the city council will hold a closed session to discuss the city managers choice and activists are asking that that meeting be closed to the public. reporting live from san jose janine de la vega, ktvu channel 2 news. friends say guy jr. was video taping an anti crime

rally at the time. >> we want answers from the police that were there. we would like statements from them. we would like statements from the paramedics who arrived at the scene. we want to know why he was taken to concord hospital instead of taking them to the two hospitals that are here in vallejo. >> jarel died on the commute to the hospital. >> and also south african leader mandela out of the hospital. tonight we're telling you what landed him in the hospital. and chevron is bringing in money hand over fist. we'll tell you what led to the profits. a ro f t t.. ro fn-opooal..ko gr. i'a n ! ro fe ysexdo..ko gr. llev wt emo?

we're following breaking news from patterson here where you see a live picture of searchers at the delta mendota canal pullingup a vehicle. this vehicle was discovered earlier today just before noon. sheriff's investigators have told us they have found the vehicle linked to the abduction of juliani cardenas. we can see here the car in question is being brought to the surface. the big question here ken, they do not know who or what is possibly inside the vehicle. and we heard the sheriff told

us earlier today that they will not know that until the car is brought to the surface. >> they are going to obviously find that out in short order as they start to look inside and what you're actually looking at is three vehicles, three different vehicles that are clumped together, they are wedged in this tube that drops underground from the mendota canal. they are all bunched up in this giant tube, it's about 15 by 15 feet. 50feet underwater, so this is a big success for the divers that have been brought in from fresno. this commercial dive team has been able to successfully hook up to the vehicle and pull them out of the canal. so the question now is what is inside that 2003 silver toyota carolla which appears to be the vehicle which appears on the right side of the screen. divers are able to go down there and look through a video monitor and identify the license plate of the toyota. that's why they know that is the car that belonged to jose

rodriguez the suspect accused of kidnapping 4-year-old juliani cardena from his grandmother: you see that toyota sliding back into the water. hopefully it is still attached so they can eventually bring it up to the shoreline. investigators will then look inside to see if the bodies of the suspect and 4-year-old boy are inside. >> searchers here are working carefully but they also have to work quickly because the water in the delta canal was lowered specifically for this effort. they only have about 20 minutes before the water starts to rise again. most of the work is done, the vehicle does appear to be up and out of the water, they are giving it another big yank out of the water there. but again, the big question here, who or what is in the vehicle. we expect to have that answered in just moments. we are live at the scene, we will bring you that information just as soon as we get it.

we will continue to follow this breaking news. meantime former south african president nelson mandela left a hospital today after being treated for a respiratory infection. officials said he was in good spirits and joking with his wife and hospital staff. now 92 years old, mr. mandela became south africa's first black president after serving 27 years in prison. an art auction in san francisco tomorrow night will benefit the two uc berkeley graduates still inprisoned in iran. shourd was released on compassionate grounds. she is expected to attend the event. the auction will feature the works of 80 artists and will include photographs taken by sean boward.

to see those photographers, go to ktvu.com and click on the links tab. and chevron says fourth quarter earnings jumped 72% because a rising demand for oil boosted prices. that led to net income of $2.64 a share. chevron reported $19.4 billion in earnings for the full year and has exceeded analysts estimates three of the last 4- quarters. ford motor company posted it's largest profit in 11 years but it missed fourth quarter revenues and got hammered on wall street closing off 12%. global sales are up and cost cutting measures are working. the auto maker said it's 40,000 hourly workers will receive profit sharing checks averaging $5,000 each. that's the most since the year 2,000. and we are following breaking news coming from the

mendota canal. >> we'll have much more on that, we're going to take a break and coming right back. we're staying behind developments on the vehicle linked to the kidnapping of a 4- year-old little boy. and we're talking about state's enthusiasts about looking back and looking ahead. get oscillo and feel like yourself again. oscillococcinum, nip it in the bud.

we continue to follow breaking news happening in patterson where just about four four minutes ago we brought you pictures of the sheriff's taking out a vehicle. >> the question now is how soon will investigators know if they don't know already, and how soon they will let us know what was inside of that toyota carolla that belonged to rodriguez. ken pritchett has been live at the scene all day long.

any idea when we're going to find out what is inside that car. >> reporter: it is my idea that the police chief will be down here to tell us shortly. you may have a better view of those cars. there were three cars pulled out of the canal within the last five minutes. one of them appeared to be silver in color, a newer car. we know that the suspect's car was down underneath that water. we know that from the sheriff's department because their understood water cameras spotted the license plate. from my vantage point i could only see it was a silver car pulled out of the water. you may have a better view of it, i could not make up the make or model of that car. at this point what i can see is around that silver car there are investigators and sheriff department personnel surrounding that car, inspecting that car that seems to be the one they have of

interest. the other two were called aside. this all came about early this morning at about 11:00 when the sheriff's department dive team after searching 12 miles of the delta mendota canal came back out here to give this area a second look. this area of the canal where there are some under water tubes, basically 15-foot wide square tubes that go under ground and deliver water from the delta mendota canal. they decided to give that area a second look because this is 100 yards away from where tire tracks were seen going into the water where a witness says he spotted that car, the suspect's car one similar to it drive into the water 45 minutes after the january 18th abduction of 4- year-old juliani cardenas. the suspect in this case, this can kidnapping who according to the family snatched juliani up

from his grandmother's up. 27-year-old esteban rodriguez, he was driving a 2003 toyota carolla. one of those wheels was a donut. you can match this up to that description. it is dark, we are a distance from it but three cars pulled out of the water a few moments ago. one of them appears to be a newer model silver sedan. >> we know that ken. from our vantage point as well. it's very difficult to tell whether or not it's exactly a toyota carolla but we know it's a silver car similar to a toyota. win thing we want to keep in mind, you've been at these types of scenes many times ken, if they bring a yellow tarp or any kind of a sheeting to try to shield cameras from that, that would be a strong indication that there could be some bodies inside that vehicle. >> yeah. go ahead ken. >> áeut would indeed. it is important -- it would

indeed. and it's important to note the sonar was able to see the license plate of the car but was not able to see inside the car. the sheriff said a few moments ago that the only way they would know is when they bring the car to the surface, if indeed that is the car. they should know that by now and we should have the answer to that shortly. >> ken as you were bringing us the latest developments from the scene at the canal. i know the sheriff told you earlier, he was saddened by the discovery of this vehicle certainly even though he said we knew we would find it here after the witness reported it going in. rob roth is at juliani's home. there's a note on the family's door that says we ask for our privacy. obviously the family they are inside the house watching this as well. from where you are, it looks like we should be hopefully getting some answers on what is inside that vehicle. you don't see anybody coming toward to notify you or any of the other reporters to notify you yet? >> not yet. the sheriff has had a couple of

briefings. it was shortly after 11:00 when they discovered the car. at that point he alerted us that they had spotted a car matching the license plate. he said that already through an fbi agent who works with the family, they had already notified the family that the car was in the water. the outstanding question is, whether there was anyone inside frankly. >> and the interesting thing right now ken, i don't know if you can see from your vantage point. we have the advantage of a camera zoomed in, maybe we have a bettest perspective. a diver has gone back under the water, looks like he has a helmet. >> i can see that. >> any idea what that is about? >> i would not venture a guess as to why a diver would be going back into the water if in fact, they have pulled the car out of the water that they are looking for. >> obviously things could have been falling out of vehicle, they could be trying to recover, could be evidence as

part of this case or probably just technically from a commercial diving equipment that they may need to remove. but certainly a fascinating recovery operation and you have to give credit to this dive team. a commercial dive team out of tpres fresno of all places has been called in to help. ken pritchett live in patterson, we're going to have more on this coming up in a few minutes at 6:00 p.m. >> and we're going to go quickly to the weather to see what chief meteorologist bill martin will be saying. >> partly to mostly cloudy for your saturday. that's your day on the weekend. then watch out here comes this weather system, it tees up for saturday night. the rain comes down to the tune of a .25 to .75 of an inch of rain. it is the first weather system in the next couple of weeks and the first significant rainfall in about 20 to 25 days.

helps scour the fog out. overnight little more goes on, you see something here saturday morning, moving through the delta. and that's some significant light shower activity then gone. i bet you we see a winter weather adds vise reu in the -- advisory this weekend. if you're traveling that way, be prepared for that type of situation. and in the forecast highs for your saturday which will be the nicest day on your bay area weekend. cool 50s, clouds move in, five day forecast brings rain in on sunday. that's it. then it dries out again next weekend, but good news. we have a little rain in here on sunday. .25, .50 tops. we go back live to the delta canal. the scene has changed significantly. remember it was only 10 minutes ago that divers were able to

pull the cluster of three vehicles together and what appeared to be sort of the silver sedan the carolla hanging on the back end. you can see here, they have those bright lights shining. there is a car on its side. we see a lot of people clustered around it. we saw people around the scene standing around the car presumably trying to figure out what or who is in the car. people have walked away from the vehicle. and what we're hoping for is an update on the scene. there is one question left here and that is, who or what is inside that car and ultimately answering the question, what happened to 4-year-old juliani. >> stanislaus sheriff christianson is supposed to come to our own ken pritchett, there he is now, let's go to

him.. we're >> the suspect's vehicle. the third vehicle status is yet to be determined. unfortunately the vehicle is empty. jose and juliani are not in the car. now, remember that our witness who at this point remains our most credible lead saw this car being driven into the canal, saw a boy and a man with the car. the windows of the vehicle were down at least two of them. so we're going to continue our search at this point, most likely our next step beyond tonight is to come back and continue to search the siphon just to be absolutely sure. we believe there's probably another vehicle in the siphon in the middle blocked but we don't know for sure. so we're going to come back and search it again. hypothetically based on all of the statements from the witnesses, the evidence, the

cooperation and the credibility there is a possibility that jose and juliani are probably still in the canal and some where downstream. as always, i have been cautiously hopeful that we'll bring juliani home alive. but there's absolutely no information or everyday or anything else that tells us that this car went in the canal and jose fled the scene. he's not sophisticated enough, doesn't have the infrastructure, doesn't have the financing, doesn't have the support to pull off that kind of an abduction and here we are a week later or better than a week later and there's still no sign of the suspect and juliani. so what are our next steps? we're going to continue to search the siphon. we're going to continue to search the canal downstream and we're going to continue to look and hold out hope. go ahead. i'll take your questions. >> was there any way the bodies could have come out of the car? >> there's no way to no.

absolutely no way to know. only that two windows were down. we haven't finished inspecting is vehicle. detectives have to go through the inside. the car is badly damaged because of being in the siphon skwroz how difficult is it to find bodies in this canal. it's huge, it's hard enough to find cars, how hard is it to find bodies? >> it is very, very difficult. the temperature of the water 42, 45 degrees means that you're probably not going to have body surface for at least 14 days. that's why we're going to continue to search, my concern how are is as all of you know little juliani is not a very big 4-year-old he's all of 40 pounds. that's going to be problematic for us but we're going to continue to search and we're going to continue to look. certainly the family, tabitha deserves every effort we can to bring her son home. >> sheriff did you say you're going to continue to search tonight or tomorrow? >> most likely we will continue our search tomorrow. right now the team is gathered

over behind you and they are working together to determine what our next steps will be. obviously putting anybody down in the siphon at night is too dangerous. >> so it's you're belief that juliani and jose are not alive. >> based on everything we know, the witnesses statement, the evidence, the corroboration, everything. we believe our witness, he saw the car go in the car. there's the car, he saw a man and a boy in the car, it's likely we will find them in the canal. >> could they be submerged or stuck in a gate. >> hard to tell. there's a lot of places where cars can get hung up, cars can get hung up like the siphon. that was the problem for us. after a second or third sonar search when we finally looked again. it is a very, very