area to search simply because of the construction, the design, the water conditions and everything we've been fighting against now since the abduction. >> how far down the canal do you search? because this body of water moves very rapidly, where do you stop. >> authorities have been notified all the bay down to mendota, california. all the way down is where we'll continue to look. >> what was the process like of bringing the cars out. were there any problems, how long did it take from when you started to when you pulled the car out. >> are you talking about the can't operation? >> yes. >> the dive operation began at 4:05 p.m. you saw the cars being brought out just a little while ago. less than two hours we had all three hours ago. >> did it go smoothly? >> absolutely. we didn't have any problems at all. >> how long will it take to drain the canal. >> there's no way to do that.

there's no upstream to hold all this water. the water authority called us and said they were at critical levels and they needed to release the water. so you're going to start to see the water start to rise again very quickly. when they typically drain the canal for maintenance there's months of planning. our holding capabilities are lower than they usually are. we're going to have regular patrol searches down the canal. the highway patrol is committed to continue to fly regular patrol flights weather permitting. >> sheriff, will you be able to tell us if the seat buckles were used will you be able to tell us that? >> not at this time. >> what will your search team have to do besides -- >> i'm sorry it's cold out here, say it again. >> what will your search entail tomorrow? >> we're going to continue to thoroughly search that siphon

and the other two blocks. we want to make absolutely sure that there's nothing left, that there's no other cars and potentially that nothing is hung up down there like bodies. >> what time did they start? >> that will be up to the team, i don't have that yet. we still have to round table with all of our teams what our next steps will be. aeb i wanted to come over here and share the latest details with you so i don't have that information yet rich. >> how are divers expected to perform, i know you mentioned -- >> two divers. two divers in the water then we obviously had safety officers and back up divers standing by. >> sheriff is there anything in the car that leads you to believe that maybe they were dead before they went into the water. >> we haven't thoroughly searched the car yet. detectives are in the process of doing that now. we don't know if there's any other evidence as the question was asked about seat belt, we simply don't have that information yet until we have a

chance to get into that vehicle. >> which windows were down? >> i know there was one on the left and one on the right but i don't know which ones of the four were down. >> were they broken out? >> i don't have that information. again the car is badly damaged from having been in the siphon and we're going to -- we'll be able to get that information as the detectives have a chance to go through the car. >> is there a possibility that water could be -- that the car actually -- >> no. absolutely anything would have been pulled into the siphon. either objects would have gone right through or hung up in the siphon just like this car was. >> after a week, they could be down the canal. >> or further. that's why we're beginning to go down and search the siphon again and we're going to continue our efforts downstream. >> if you can search the siphon, are you going to search

any further down the canal? >> yeah, the continuing use of dive operations further down downstream is not going to be used. because we would need an exact location. theoretically, if this goes the way i think it's going to go, we're going to have to wait for the bodies to surface and for someone to report that to us. >> so per your officers and deputy social security this very emotional. >> certainly it's emotional. this has been emotional for everybody in the case.

myself included. our team has worked very passionly. their determination is incredible. but a lot of them have children juliani's age. any time children are involved because you desperately want to bring them home alive. we wanted to find little juliani alive. the reality is that simply is not going to happen right now based on everything we know and the time that's gone by, the chances of that happening are diminishing expenentially. good evening i'm julie haener. >> and i'm ken wayne. frank somerville is off tonight. you have talked about the sheriff talk about what's been developing at the delta canal. the vehicle involved in the

cardenas abduction has been located but no bodies were found in that vehicle. ken pritchett joins us now live. >> reporter: you can see a live picture we have of the car up shore. the suspect's vehicle that was pulled out about 15 minutes ago. we just heard from sheriff adam christianson, once that car, that 2003 toyota carolla was brought up on shore, they looked inside the car and they did not see juliani cardena the 4-year-old or 28 esteban cardenas inside the car. two of the windows on that car were rolled down. now the question is, were those windows broken out or were they rolled down and that's something that the sheriff said they have to take a look at at this point. it also raises the question, was rodriguez or juliani in the car when it went into the

water. the sheriff emphasized once again that his confidence in the witness stating that they say that car go into the water 45 minutes after the abduction. that witness saw a man and a child inside the car when the car went into the water. the sheriff says at this point they have divers back in this underground, what they call a siphon. it's a 15-foot wide tube that was under water. authorities will double check that tube to see if there's bodies in there. if that fail, they will resume their search of the delta canal tomorrow. at this point they are looking for bodies. the sheriff says that, every bit of information, every bit of evidence he has suggests that both the suspect and four- year-old juliani cardenas were in that car and that their

bodies are in the delta mend torque a canal. that's according to the sheriff, he says one more piece of evidence was that from the very beginning, after the abduction they have not received any kind of electronic signal or use of a cell phone to credit cards from rodriguez who he described as a man who was not sophisticated enough to pull off an abduction and simply disappear. so, at this point after pulling the car from underwater after a week long search in the delta canal and seeing that there was no one inside, this recovery effort appears to continue. ken-- >> grim business we're talking about here ken because the sheriff mentioned it takes about 14 days for a body to surface in that canal. it's been 10 days since juliani was kidnapped. so while the divers are in there and hope to locate something before that, we may have to wait a little bit longer before we get finality to all of this.

>> the sheriff expanded on that a little bit ken. he said that it takes 14 days because of the cold water of the delta mendota canal. it is swift moving water in addition to that. this water is dangerous for divers to go into. even with all of their equipment it's dangerous to go into because this water is moving so swiftly down this canal. and they have difficult even locating cars in this canal. even though they pulled out more than a dozen in this week long search. they had to return to this original location one week later. an area they thought was clear of cars and they found three more in just the past hour. and they found another one this morning. so the difficulty of finding a car alone is clear. finding bodies in this canal that stretches for miles and miles will be a daunting task it seems. >> all right, ken pritchett

reporting live from the delta mendota canal. ken thanks very much. we will check back for more updates later in this newscast. it's been an agonizing wait for the family and friends of the missing boy still don't know where he is. community members are gathering to offer their support. >> reporter: within the past hour we've been told that relatives of juliani cardenas are in the family home praying. we've also told juliani's mother is outside of sacramento taping an interview with nancy grace. friends and neighbors have been dropping by all day to offer comfort to the mother of tabitha cardenas. >> it's moment by moment. >> reporter: jose rodriguez the ex-boyfriend of juliani's mother grabbed the boy 10 days ago and spaed sped off in a

toyota carolla. the mother of the child said she was sure that the car would not be found in the canal, but today it was. >> it could happen to anybody. >> reporter: patterson residents say the abduction has brought the small community even closer together. there's been searches and vigils and people bringing food. >> the mood in the home is still hopeful. and they hope for the child will come home safely. we understand the sheriff's have a job to do that information will come to us when it comes to us. but there's still a lot of hope in that home that this will come out with a happy ending. >> reporter: the red cross is also here supporting the family and the neighborhood. in patterson, rob roth, ktvu channel 2 news. the mother of the suspect jose esteban rodriguez is waiting anxiously to see what happened to her son and the missing boy. >> right now i don't have any

more comments to say until the car is come out of the canal. and i figure, i am not doing good at all. okay i'm very nervous and i'm very scared. >> reporter: donna avila added earlier today before this news of the car coming out that she had faith that jose and juliani were alive because the fbi had told her the searches have not found any bodies as of yet. >> 4-year-old juliani cardenas was abducted 10 days ago. police say the astranged boyfriend of juliani's mother kidnapped the boy. the next day a farm worker told police he saw a car matching the description of the suspect's car plunge into the canal with a man and a child inside. by wednesday search crews pulled 12 cars from that canal. however none was related to the case. divers returned to the murky water this morning and found rodriguez's submerged car near

a canal pipe. but no bodies were found inside. and our coverage continues online ktvu.com, is more video of the investigators and their search efforts. >> and we'll have more on the search coming up.

their employees of napa state hospital, it's not only staff members being assaulted. >> no it's patients too. in this college auditorium tonight two hours of emotional testimony about how violent patients seem to run the roost. >> reporter: brads legs is over 6 feet tall not someone to pick

a fight with but he's been assaulted twice. >> i don't come to work to get beat up. >> reporter: beat up by patients who come here because they are not mentally fit. >> we have big guys behind that fence, that's for sure. >> reporter: brad was within dozensover t hospital workers fueled by the strangulation death of donna gross two months ago by a patient. >> it is not safe. >> it is preventable and it is predictable and it's unacceptable. >> reporter: unacceptable too critics say for patients who are preyed on by the violent few but too afraid to come forward. >> i have individuals on my unit that have been on ground, been assaulted, you question them and ask them why, they don't want to give information

on people because they are scared of retaliation and they are scared of being labeled a snitch. >> there are times when we basically say we can't take them. i mean they are too tough to deal with maybe you should say that more often. >> that could be. >> a state action plan comes out on monday. expect the addition of cameras and segregation of violent patients. we will never forget them and the last time we saw them this morning. as they slipped earth to touch

the face of god. it was a shock to the nation as many watched the explosion live on television. robert handa is in mountain view with the lasting effect in california. >> reporter: today was a day to look back and travel forward. the sense of awe visitors experience at the exploration had a ting of sadness today as visitors recalled the explosion of the challenger. >> we did not expect accidents to happen. and those on the ill faded 2003 shuttle columbia mission. one columbia astronaut shaula

served at nasa aims. >> she challenged us to be our best as she always challenged herself to be the best. what we look back is at the risk some people took they did that on behalf of the nation and of mankind. >> reporter: the kids focus on different images. >> one of the rovers landing on mars. and how it uses solar energy to charge it and stuff. and i think it's pretty cool. an oak ridge elementary school teacher says the program must work through disaster because exploration inspires young people. >> if we get these kids inspired, then they're going to be looking for ways to light a similar fire in the generations that come down the line. officials say that's a big

step for generations since thedisasters. bay area residents are sharing their memories of that fateful day on ktvu facebook page. alana watched it happen live on tv at school. she says, the day was like no other. we're going to change gears and talk about the weather. kind of a chilly day around the area. rain is headed our way again. bill joins us now with the latest on the forecast. >> headed back into the forecast, it's for sunday now. the rest of the week looks dry after that. things are changing around, it has been a dry month as you know. last rain we had was on the 13th. it's been dry all the way through to sunday. tomorrow is a transition day. it's a enough to bring a half inch of rain to some of the

heaviest coastal locations. here is a system i'm tracking. it has been a nasty couple of dais. sacramento, davis. not nice. the fog goes away, it's going to warm up in some of those places. you will get 12-inches some where up in the echo summit. forecast highs tomorrow cooler at the bay. saturday is your day in terms of outdoor activities. sunday is your day to watch some football, i think something is on, the probowl is on. not super bowl weekend but a day to stay inside and take care of business. >> more typical winter pattern. >> yeah, it is, it is. and we'll be back with more right after this.

a first ever at the daytona speed way tomorrow when a blind man will get behind the field and race around the track. mark nitriono will drive a

specially generated truck. the demonstration will be a part of the predaytona race. and a potential trade that is eventually being proposed between the seattle mariners and the oakland a's would bring them the very speedy sean figgens. he would have to waive his no phrase clause. that would give the a's a speedy addition at third base. wilson promoting his new video game sporting a sea captain look, including a gray beard. i don't know how much of this interview we can show you but if you want to see it, go to ktvu.com.

i can assure you you will not be disappointed. meanwhile we go to san diego, second round of the open. tiger woods remaining a strong story. and his play remaining strong too. and he was using a five iron, nearly holds out. mickelson rolls in the birdie. mickelson's wife made her first appearance rooting for her husband. she of course has been fighting cancer. >> and police say someone shot at his suv no one was hurt. a close call, no one was arrested, that is actually good news for the raiders. no one was hurt. that is the sporting life for right now. all the warrior highlights tonight at 10:00. >> mark, thanks very much. >> thanks, mark. we want to recap our top story tonight. within the last 45 minutes a

silver toyota carolla was pulled from the mendota canal. in the canal the sheriff's investigators did not find any bodies bodies. they are searching for 4-year- old juliani cardenas. >> and the search is still going on, visibility near zero. it could take up to 14 days for the bodies to surface. the very latest coming up on tv 36 and at 10:00. good night. , se a ro f t t.. f mn-opooal.. gr. i'a n ! f me ysexdo.. gr. llev wt emo?