approached asking about this site as a place to relocate. . >> i haven't talked to anybody. the mayor said there are discussions about a possible compromise. many say the whole point is to be in full view of the public. putting them here behind this fence might defeat the purpose. >> why would we want to replace this with that? >> we need more space to camp ask live. >> reporter: protesters insist it is clean and safe despite the mayor's claim conditions are challenging. and some who live and work near this site said it is not the answer. >> i think it will add more chaos that doesn't need to be added. >> as they were making this announcement about the credit union, a lot of people just passing by stopped to listen in. there lot of questions about how something like this will

work. they are still going through everything. we are putting it together for tonight at 6:00. live in san francisco, eric rasmussen, ktvu channel 2 news. former bart police officer johannes mehserle spent part of this day on the witness stand in a civil trial brought by a man who said his rights were violated. it happened on the bart platform in oakland. ktvu's rita williams is live that courthouse where today's session just wrapped up. >> former police officer johannes mehserle just finished testifying here about an hour ago after four hours on the stand. >> good, thank you. >> reporter: this is the first picture of johannes mehserle we have seen since my interview in jail 14 months ago. he had just been convict offend

man lotter for killing oscar grant. now that he served his time johannes mehserle was at the san francisco federal building with four other bart police officers defending themselves in a lawsuit filed by another passenger in a another case six weeks before the shooting of oscar grant. >> one of the officers. >> reporter: kenneth carrethers said the officers used excessive force and violated his civil rights at the bart station, november 2008. >> i got a black eye. >> reporter: kenneth carrethers said he did nothing. >> this is about kenneth carrethers who spoke his mind but never touched an officer. >> i am just glad the truth is coming out. >> reporter: johannes mehserle testified today as two other officers did that kenneth carrethers came at them with threats. >> i don't believe there is any

evidence that would suggest they did anything but told the truth. >> what happened to oscar grant is direct relation to what happened to kenneth carrethers when johannes mehserle arrested him. >> reporter: the jury will have to decide if the officers vierated kenneth carrethers' civil rights and if so how much bart has to pay him. i learned that after court ended a few minutes ago, johannes mehserle's father took a picture of oscar grant's uncle with his cell phone outside the courtroom but

inside the federal building. any photography is not allowed in the federal building. it was brought to the judge's attention and i am told that johannes mehserle's father will be barred from attending anymore of this trial which resumed on monday. reporting live, rita williams, ktvu channel 2 news. we are on storm watch tonight. rain is on the way and snow on the way to the sierra. our chief meteorologist bill martin will tellous how close the rain is, first to ken pritchett in the sierra. any snow fall today? >> reporter: right now here it is not snowing but it is very cold. it is windy. if you are headed up to the sierra be prepared and be prepared for traffic. thanksgiving is the busiest time of the year in terms of traffic. as you can see right now, the interstate is fairly clear. >> reporter: this morning traffic was light. but caltrans says 2-3,000 cars per hour will pass over the summit of interstate 80.

so this family from san jose timed their trip just right. >> easy. no traffic at all. zero. >> reporter: but they had to drive to king veil to find enough snow to slide on. >> tons of fun. >> reporter: the mountains aren't covered in snow but the ski resorts have been making snow. >> i was surprised. we were happy. >> they have been open since october but squaw valley is one of several opening in time for thanksgiving. the haul day is consider -- the holiday is considered a bonus as they expect to open by mid- december. >> 8 inches of natural storm. and we have been making snow. it's well covered and fabulous. >> one thing we noticed on interstate 80 today was the lack of road construction. caltrans had projects all summer but they wrapped up and

removed the equipment this morning in time for the holiday traffic and snow plows. ken pritchett, ktvu channel 2 news. >> let's turn to our chief meteorologist bill martin who will tell us about snow and rain. >> i just got off the phone with ken pritchett, who you just saw, ashed saw -- around 10:00, snow is headed there. to the north bay, santa rosa, napa, light sprinkles in the hills. main weather system still off shore. it will be here. heading our way. but it will take longer. on the roadways right now, they are dry around the bay area. which is good news on this busy travel day. when i come back the latest

computer model and the time thong front. it will have an impact on your thursday activities. we will see you back here with that. our coverage continues. you can go to www.ktvu.com at any time to find out what is going on with the weather in your neighborhood. holiday travelers are hitting roads tonight. what is looks like on i-80 in berkeley. jammed up in both directions. you know traffic is really bad. aaa is forecasting 5.3 million californians will be traveling more than 50 miles from home this weekend. many in their car. that's up 4.1% compared to last year. let's move to the golden gate bridge. traffic right now much better than it on i-80. >> aaa predicts the number of people traveling by train will

go up 14.9%. and a jump in air travelers. oakland airport anticipates 250,000 travelers. sfo expects four times that many. it will be busy today but not as busies tomorrow. >> people want to travel today they may have a hard time. >> officials offer the usual advice, call your carrier to make sure your flight is on time and not effected by weather. it has been busy today at san jose international airport. lot of the rights are full but the busiest day of the thanksgiving weekend will be sunday when folks start returning home and they say be prepared for big crowds. >> bring your patience. everybody is traveling. it is a holiday. good time. trying to connect with family

and friends. no point in starting your holiday when you are aggregated. >> plan ahead. know where your terminal is, know the rules and allow extra time. coming up at 5:30, the new system thatgust is considering that is already in place at one bay area airport. bart said it is beefing up security on black friday to prevent crimes. extra officers will be stationed in downtown san francisco where thousands are expected. tnd reporci online should increase by 15%. sales in the u.s. for november and december should total $38 billion. consumers are enticed to shop online by free or low cost

shipping. the united nations condemned the egyptian military today for excessive force against protesters. demonstrators and police crashed for a fifth straight day. the protesters are demanding a new government. the u.s. state department is looking into the arrest of three emergency college students in cairo. >> we were able to visit the citizens earlier today and our officials remain in contact with the authorities. >> unless he tells me otherwise i will never believe he did anything to hurt anyone. >> her son is not the type to take part in violence but police say they all threw fire bombs at security forces. the president of yemen relinquished power to his vice

president. he ended his 33 years in power. the united states and its aldie lyes helped broker the deal. 10s of thousands -- tens of thousands took part in protests for months now. the investigations into the pepper space incident at university of california at berkeley is growing. they rigged up electricity and have a kitchen and rest rooms. the chancellor reacheditute student activists. >> we need to come together and start the discussion of is that something permanent, does it make sense to have a permanent encampment. i don't think we are ready to have that discussion right now. >> students, faculty and others

said their camp is there to stay. lean yeasked to take immediately action in response to the pepper spray incident. requiring over a month to hold individuals accountable is unacceptable. . with rain in the forecast, three families fear they may lose their home. what they are doing to protect themselves and why that may not work. [ male announcer ] it's a rule of nature.

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investigators are looking for the cause of his house fire. it started this morning and sent smoke into the air. university police are investigating an attempted purse snatching on san jose state this morning. police say a employee was standing near the atm kiosk this morning when a man tried to grap her purse. she ran back to call -- to her office rather. 35 and 50 years old with a medium to light complexion, standing about six feet tall and weighing about 150 lbs. he was wearing a light gray zip- up hoodie, blue cotton running pants and tennis shoes that may have been black and white. no arrests have been made. police say a protesters

admitted to vandalizic -- vandalizing banks. police released this surveillance video. jared bedecarre confessed to tagging the banks and he painted foreclosed on four backs. he used washable paint so there was no permanent damage. freddy mac said mortgage rates took a drop this week. the average 30 year fixed came in at 3.98%. and 4/100 hire than the record low 7 weeks ago, up 3.94%. the dow fell 236 points to close at 11,258. the nasdaq fell 61 to 2,460.

the new york stock exchanged will be closed tomorrow. the rain expected tonight is no big deal for some but for some families it could have serious consequences. they spend thousands of dollars on these tarps and sand bags to protect them. all of this is on at hillcrest road. ktvu's paul chambers is there tonight. >> i have been out here since the hill slide happened in march. let me show you, the families decided to get sand bags and got people to put up tarps. every time they hear rain, they live in fear. >> we will do everything we can in our power to try to save our

house. >> reporter: three families are on the verge of lose their homes. last winter and spring storms caused the hill to crumble and now they are doing all they can to save their homes. >> we had to come up with $30,000. $10,000 per family. >> reporter: that money for 100 yards of tarms and sand bags. this is what the hillside looked like last month. since then trees and fencing had to be remove in hopes of presenting another slide. >> when the rains start, anything could happen. hill could slide underneath the tarp. we will have to keep an eye on what is going on. >> we are nervous. >> even with the winterizization. >> reporter: thihaven't even go inside. -- they can't even go inside. why this is a hard pill to

swallow. it's hard. especially with holidays coming in. first time we celebrate not in our house. >> reporter: this is a legal issue now and families are suing each other and the city. we tried to get a response from the city but it was closed today. we will bring you the latest as it develops. paul chambers, ktvu channel 2 news. whether you are in a situation like that or trying to get out of town, let's turn to our chief meteorologist bill martin. >> rain. it will be the main event tonight into tomorrow. here is where the rain is now, north of here. portions of the north bay, widely light scattered sprinkles. you can see green in the returns there. that is light shower activity. the system is headed our way. slow mover. this is how it looked today. clouds thickening up. temperatures in the 50s all

day. no sprinkles. clouds becoming lower, dropping down. around 10:00, 11:00, especially from san francisco north, light sprinkles. here comes the system. moist looking. look how narrow the cloud band is. the cloud band, 3-400 miles wide, 200 miles wide, it will move through quickly. the bay area forecast, rain starts in the north bay. 10:00, i will show you green returns. heaviest rain is in the north bay. partly cloudy for the weekend. what happens thanksgiving day? showers in the morning and clearing. to the north bay, we are expecting the heaviest rain. this is not a huge storm. could be a nuisance storm. 10:00 tonight, there your time, looking for the heaviest rain in the north bay. north bay could see an inch of rain or over an inch of rain.

santa rosa. you could find minor roadway ponding. that's not a ton of water for the north bay. they are used to getting more than that. as the system drapes out it moves into the bay area. by morning, back edge, north bay, clearing out. that's just the north bay mod. when i come back we will look at the forecast for the entire bay area and mountains, holiday weekend, thanksgiving. two yods will be closed for thanksgiving because of the winter conditions. the closures effect highway 120 and glacier point road at highway 41. they are closed because of snow and ice and more snow is expected. glacier point will reopen once

the ski area opens. over the weekend, officials will reassess. thousands are showing up hungry and grateful. the holiday inn hard times, in the north bay, people are waiting for a holiday meal but look how long the lines are. what the occupy protesters are telling shoppers to buy this holiday season.

volunteers and staff at the san francisco food bank are packing up more food to help the needy. the food bank is helping a record number of families. a million pound of groceries this season they will disribute. poultry, fruits and vegetables. they have teamed up with e&o trading company to help 10 families for a thanksgiving dinner tonight. >> the need is just as great in sonoma county. they have been serving free thanksgiving dinner to 500 people an hour. ktvu's rob roth is there and shows us how many people are still waiting to get in. rob? >> reporter: here at the fairgrounds, thanksgiving is coming early. take a look. this dining hall has been

packed since 11:00 this morning for people trying to grab a thanksgiving dinner. >> reporter: they will have fed more than 5,000 needy people. families, including this family. >> we don't have money. 78 special since he lost his job four months ago. they came here to celebrate thanksgiving and be around other people in similar situations. >> our food ran out and the rest of the hunt we got to worry about what we are going to eat for the next day. >> reporter: this effort is organized by the gasple mission in santa rosa with the help of

churches and agencies. they are feeding 250 people every half hour. she is here where w her morgue, sister and nieces. >> i am just enjoying the day out. you know? i don't get to go out every day. so it's nice. >> next door is a one stop service center, get flu shots, warm clothes and a hair cut. this takes 500 volunteers. among them is this woman who made sure her son pitched in as well. >> i want to raise them to know they have so much and there is so many that don't have anything. i want to teach them to give back and to give to those that need it and feel good about it. >> reporter: we are back live. dinner is expected to last another 2 hours at least as people keep pouring in. and volunteers will be back in christmas. rob roth, ktvu channel 2 news. two fires in two weeks at

this one strip mall. investigators have been called in. what they found inside the building that was so suspicious. there is an app for everything. and that's why this year 'tis the season to be tabletting. $@

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5:00. look here. this picture hasn't changed since we showed it to you. thousands of drivers are hitting the road. by this look at 80, a lot of them are making a slow trek out of town. the thanksgiving get away gets hine high gear. our chief meteorologist bill martin is here to help with your travel plans. >> today is a big day forgetting out of town. with rain just a few miles north, you north, folks concerned about the weather. storm tracker 2, picking up rain. this is the golden gate bridge. the ground is dry. at 10:00, we will see light

water. traffic is doing well. look at 101 there, you can see the traffic. that is slow. south bound 101. no rain yet. that's a good thing. this is working out really well for the wednesday get away. as we look at both the live radar sweeps, areas of reflectivity, light sprinkle activity. at this point, i am not having ground reports. sometimes the radar picks up stuff. this could be a low level cloud. the rain is moving in. it will sweep in, brings rain, wind, snow to the mountains. wednesday afternoon get away forecast, the readways are drive -- the roadways are dry. two fires in two weeks that same strip mall and police think both fires were deliberately set.

ktvu's alex savage has more. >> reporter: this boarder up business burned a couple weeks back and early this morning the market caught fire. an arson investigation is underway and the sheriff's department says fuel was used to start both fires. >> reporter: fire tore threw after 3:00 this morning. the owner is in tears. >> i lost everything. nothing left. >> reporter: he says the fire did a half million dollars in damage to his store and investigators believe it was intentionally set. the first drew crews smell fuel. three separate fires were started. the first started with this display, the other two were near the back corner of the store. the fire came two weeks

after another fire in this same mall. on november 7, flames ripped through. that fire was also suspicious. >> nobody is disgruntled. we are not sure why this is happening. >> after this morning's fire the only business still in tact is the pet grooming. the owner is grateful her shop wasn't damaged and hopes police can make an arrest quickly. >> i am worried that we will be next. i consider myself lucky but i feel bad for my neighbors. >> reporter: the market that caught fire this morning does have surveillance cameras and he turned the video over to arson investigators. if you know anything or saw anything, put in a call to the

sheriff's department. live, alex savage, ktvu channel 2 news. police say a man they arrested a s facing additional charges. while he was in the patrol car he tried to hide marijuana under the seat. that happened sunday night. administrators at san quentin state prison say a inmate died of natural causes. guards found david leslie murtishaw on his sell phone. since california reinstated the death penality, 55 condemned inmates died of natural causes. the holiday shopping season is about to go into full swing. many of the hottest gifts come from silicon valley. ktvu's consumer editor tom

vacar has more. >> 'tis the season to be tabletting. >> reporter: the ipad is the i want 50. >> it's access to music, to video. >> reporter: and games, games, games. >> they have lots upheaps that you can play. >> reporter: why is that important? >> because they are fun. >> reporter: at&t sells four brands. buy the samsung tablet for $479, get a new generation smartphone free. competition makes things more fun. >> it will raise the bar for the ipad or apple to do something better. >> reporter: what makes them so powerful and desirable is what the apps, hundreds of thousands of them. you can do anything you could ever want to do. >> i think we will see more and

more. even the kindle fire, it will be a great competitor. >> reporter: the kindle provides serious competition at a bargain price, may sell 5 million units. amwill sell at least 13 million ipads, adding to the 40 million already in consumer's hands. retailers sold 1.2 million tablets of all other brands. to see, touch, and compare, best buy may be the best place. we found 25 different models in a wide variety of features and prices with more coming. >> competition makes this better. >> happy shopping. i am consumer editor tom vacar, ktvu channel 2 news. protesters are planning events tomorrow. most of the protest are expected to try to stop shoppers from spending money at

big chain stores. in mossiesies they are -- in most cities they are keeping their plans under wraps. a survey of 18 cities shows the movement cost government $13 million. it included oakland where police and other costs exceeded $2.4 million. new york city 7 million dealing with "occupy wall street." and we are monitoring the occupy movement and our coverage continues on our website, www.ktvu.com for all the latest on the moves the protesters making. warning about bay area free ways ways and the move amtrak is making. san francisco airport is setting an example. why the rest of the country

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in less than an hour the chp is kicking off an enforcement against drunk driving. and collisions are the result

of drunk driving. more than 1500 drivers were arrested arrested last year. the thanksgiving travel rush is underway. not everyone is driving or flying to their location. >> plenty of folks will be riding the rain and amtrak's capital has its full fleet out and running for the thanksgiving holiday. today and sunday are the busiest days of the year. some passengers wanted to avoid the traffic on freeways. >> i wouldn't drive, especially today. it's just bumper to bumper. >> the cost of gas is a deterrent for some. $50 a tank. >> to meet the demand amtrak is extended its rail line to san jose tonight. move to change airport

security screening. screeners at sfo don't work for the federal aviation administration, instead a private contractor provides the services. they services -- some want to replace all tsa screeners with private workers to save money. >> security back to airlines and airports themselves. they have every incentive to get it right and they would do a lot of the same security but better. >> the head of the tsa says it's more expensive. if years people have been blaming trip fan found in turkey for the naps. now experts say not so fast. there is not enough of that in turkey to make you druse u drowsy. they blame all the carbohydrates you eat. if you want to avoid getting

drowsy cut down on carbs, portions and take a walk after dinner. is there anyone out there? we might never know what america's budget problems are doing the space, especially right here in the bay area next. back here in 10 minutes, the latest computer model is so going to show you when the rain starts in your neighborhood.

mitt romney is defending his new tv app that features

president obama during the 2008 campaign. >> if we keep talking about the economy -- >> democrats say the clips of president obama were taken out of context and he was quoting john mccain. mitt romney said he was quoting john mccain. >> it was to point out what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. he spoke about the economy being a bird toon john mccain. it's now your turn. >> the ad began airing yesterday in new hampshire. nasa's science project could be on the budget bubble. ktvu's john fowler has more on this story. >> reporter: cuts may still kill a space telescope that

could answer our most fundamental questions. >> designed to peer deeper into space with better eyes than anything yet devised. >> found our entire history. >> reporter: using intrared light, it could see through gas and dust that blocks other telescopes. even spotting a planet with an ocean. over runs put its cost at $8.8 billion. last week congress approved next year's funding but then threatened to kill it. scientists say with missions to mars, discoveries from telescopes, 50 possible planets were so close. >> every time we learned something new what we learn is

our situation doesn't seem to be that special. that suggests life isn't all that special either. >> reporter: there may be billions of small planets like earth circling stars just in our galaxy. >> small planets are common. the galaxy makes them efficiently. >> reporter: it could find clues to what is out there. >> how frequent are earth around other stars.

>> reporter: jobs. technicians in richmond are making the telescope and mirrors. that is competitive to keep national technical squills and boost education, america must increase spending, not cut it. john fowler, ktvu channel 2 news. a new policy on cell phone towers. they plan to meet next month with an expert. the goal is to regulate where the towers can be placed, when what they will look like. let's talk about the other. rain maybe in the next couple of snowshowers. >> next 5, 6 hours showing mup scattered showers in the north bay. the real rain doesn't get here till 11:00. both the live dopplers working right now. looking for rain. if you see green returns in our area, those returns represent just light drizzle at best. thanksgiving die, morning showers. sun tomorrow afternoon.

the system comes through. tonight heavy rain in the north bay. that's where the most rain is. spreads south tonight between midnight, 3:00, 4:00. gusty winds as the front passes through. there is your thanksgiving day. cool air. valley fog in the morning, wet ground and morning showers and maybe a sixty -- maybe a scattered shower. 11:00 at night, all it is. rain moving through the north bay, oakland, 3:00 a.m. and passes through by 8:00 tomorrow morning. quick mover too. the bulk of the rain is going to happen when you are in bed. most of the rain will be done by the time you get going tomorrow morning. 49 in fairfield. 58 antioch. morning fog, valley fog, think about that as you travel around. today is a big drive day. tomorrow as well. fog in the morning. wet roadways. most of the rain, five-day

forecast, with your holiday weekend in view, most rain occurs between 10:00 tonight and 4:00 in the morning. >> thank you. fisherman are holding out over 50 cents a pound over crab pricing. what we found when we went out looking for fresh crab in the bay area for this thanksgiving.

talking technique in san francisco today. the mayor joins police officers and firefighters in a turkey carve off. the chief dug in to help carve 150 turkeys that salvation army. it will be part of thanksgiving meals for the needy. >> getting with our friends and preparing 4600 meals to be delivered tomorrow by volunteers. >> those volunteers will take the meals to people who can't leave their homes for thanksgiving. a thanksgiving stapeful a lot of folks but this year it appearalize that crab will be absent from the dinner table because of a dispute between

fisherman and buyers. >> i don't think that's good for business. keeps everybody away. so it's -- not good. >> at san francisco's fisherman's warp we found slim pickskins the crab we did find was frozen. the commercial crab season began last week but fisherman are demanding $2.50 a pound. buyers are only willing to pay $2. >> we are hoping that they mead on saturday and drop the pots saturday night and we have live crab next week. >> fisherman and buyers are expected to meet on saturday in hopes of reaching an agreement. disputes are common but one said he could only remember a couple of times when crab wasn't available for thanksgiving. the harvest of crab appears to be good so there should be

plenty of crab available. coming up in 90 seconds, what the police department and the apple ipad have in common. the recognition for the plan that has them getting ahead of the bad guys. plus a warm embrace for a marine wounded in the war. the road to recover.

complete bay area news coverage starts right now, this is ktvu channel 2 news at 6:00. this family waited weeks weeks to embrace their hero. good evening, i am julie haener. >> i am frank somerville. a road side bomb took part of his leg but his family rallied behind him and welcomed him home in time for thanksgiving. ktvu's robert handa was there as he walked into their arms. >> reporter: two hours ago we saw a special home coming here. for this