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up next on a second look, mass shootings in the united states. over the past quarter century. what do so many have in common.
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high capacity magazine rifles. that's our story on a second look. today we revisit the question of high capacity magazine use. in a number of mass shootings the gunmen followed high capacity magazines. at newtown connecticut, adam lanza had several magazines holding 30 round a piece. at aurora colorado, james holmes used a drum holding 100 rounds and shot 72 people in a movie theater, 12 of them died. in tucson arizona, jared laughner used a high capacity magazine. a gunman with an ak47 rifle opened fire at a schoolyard in stockton. here are our reports at the time from randy shandobil and lloyd lacuesta. >> it was lunchtime.
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first second and third graders out in the schoolyard eating, jumping rope, playing ball. >> no warning whatever. >> just, pow, pow, pow, pow. >> did the man say anything or was he just shooting? >> just shooting. >> not a word from him, just shooting. what did you do? >> run to the bathroom. >> did you see anybody get hurt? >> uh-huh. >> reporter: are your friends okay? >> reporter: teachers risk their own lives while shots were still being fired they went out into the schoolyard. grabbed some of the dead and wounded and pulled them into classrooms. >> i was scared stiff. the teacher just said get under the desk. and we layed, i mean i was just scared stiff. and i just layed there, i layed down and i stayed down. >> reporter: people often assume mass killers just snapped or something. patrick killey did not just snap yesterday he planned it.
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wearing a jacket to protect himself. carrying hundreds of rounds of extra ammunition. specifically going to his old school and trying to divert police to a molotov cocktail to his own car. after five children were killed and 32 wounded police say the gunman shot and killed himself. the killing machine was this ak47 with bayonette. carved into the mall lot -- mallot was hezbollah.
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her nephew had been killed. other parents in the chaos had followed the shooting clustered at the school waiting and hoping. those who were hit were rushed to stockton area hospitals. emergency room stabilized and parents were running to find out how their children were. 18 of the children were admitted in severe conditions. singh was one of the lucky ones. a few hours after the shooting she left with her mother, she had been shot in the arm. it was near some portable classrooms where police say the gunman committed suicide. those classrooms were filled with children in a hard of hearing class. all the children killed at this school today were southeast asians. from families one official says already traumatized from the war they left behind. families who had sought safety in america. >> 10 years after the shootings
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in that stockton schoolyard, one of the children wounded talked about how that day affected him. and so did his brother who was not hit by the bullets but suffered psychological wounds of his own. >> reporter: eric and bryant hill know firsthand the horrors children suffer in a school shooting. they survived one 10 years ago in stockton, california. five children died. 30 children and teachers were wounded when patrick peardy walked on to the playground at recess and opened fire. eric was 8 years old when a bullet slammed into his back. it remains lodged near his spine. >> i still have the bullet in me, yeah. i don't feel it very often. only on long car rides. >> reporter: the emotional injuries were more emotional to overcome. years later in counseling, eric began talking about them and
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learned to use them as inspiration. >> it's just something i remember and it inspires me to do what i want to do. >> and how? >> reporter: knowing how awful it could have been? >> how it could have been. a lot of what it is. like how i'm still okay. >> reporter: bryan who was then six was not hit but the brother's agree bryan's emotional injuries may have been greater than eric's gunshot wound. >> for a while i wouldn't go outside. always thinking somebody was outside my window waiting for me. >> reporter: while eric's physical wounds brought him attention and sometimes gifts, bryan's emotional injuries were for a while ignored. >> they didn't think about the fact that you know bryan had to walk through dead bodies in order to get to the safety of his classroom. those memories were real. >> reporter: music has been another kind of therapy for eric he's in a rock band.
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>> music really helped me get out my passions and emotionals it really sums up everything i've always felt. >> reporter: after the shooting, eric and his mother testified on school safety before a sub committee. >> we're still talking about the same problems. we're still having the same discussion about the availability of guns to children. >> reporter: they remain pessimistic about any chance for the end of school violence. still to come. the 1980 debate over banning high capacity magazines. please.
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outlined the use of high capacity magazines. but there was a loophole in the law for foreign made magazines that could hold higher capacity. both measures became bottled up in a conference committee and died. dennis richmond brought us this report at the time of that debate. >> reporter: assault weapons account for 1% of all guns in private hands. in a 21 month period in 1994 and 1995, 20 deaths are accredited to high capacity magazines. gun that is can fire dozens of
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rounds without reloading. 3,000 officers and friends turned out for the funeral of officer james williams. the person who killed him in an ambush was armed with that weapon. >> he did have a large mag large capacity magazine. >> i think the view of most people is you don't need these big clips to protect yourself. >> reporter: a coalition of 20 members of congress will introduce a bill to ban the sale of a magazine clip that holds more than 20 rounds. at the forefront is the national rifle association. >> the magazine has 11 rounds instead of 10 nobody is going to be hurt by that fact. i think that that they are all good laws against the shooting
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people and threatening people with guns. when you pass laws of having 11 rounds instead of 10. police have to enforce those laws their resources are being taken away from enforcing those important laws. >> this is a stupid idea. it is not going to affect violence it's going to put more ordinary folks in prison. >> this is standard operating procedure for the nra. the nra opposes anything. no matter how faint. no matter how common sense. the nra has the thought that anybody has a god given right to possess anything. whether it's a bazooka or anything. they don't want to regulate anything. >> reporter: when two men tried to pull off a bank robbery they armed themselves with weapons and high capacity magazines that allowed them to hold off
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police almost indefinitely. later that year in orange county, an angry former worker opened fire on fellow employees in a caltrans yard. his assault rifle held 30 rounds. four people died before he ran out of bullets and was killed by police. there are currently more consumer protection laws covering toys and child car seats than there are covering guns and the size of magazines that feed them. the gun industry is the only major industry in the nation that is not protected by consumer laws. it does little to limit the size of magazines that feed it. you can even purchase magazines like this 70 round capacity drum over the internet. opponents of these large capacity magazines say the 1994 crime bill only banned those made after the law passed leaving the ones made before still legal.
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the problem is millions are in existence and of the ones imported there's no way to tell when they were made. when we come back on a second look. >> this is a weapon of war. >> with an assault weapon and high capacity ammunition magazine, a gunman leaves a trail of dead. >> and the rifle that killed a police officer and the man who shot him.
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tonight on a second look mass shooting and high capacity magazines. a man killed eight people and wounded six others at a law office in san francisco's financial district. the pistols had been fitted with 30 round magazines. craig hepas has the recounting of the events that day. >> reporter: in the plight of a normal thursday afternoon july
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1st, 1993 all hell broke lose in the san francisco offices of pettit and market attorney at law. >> initially when we got here we found there were five, maybe six victims. preliminary investigation shows that there might be a few more. >> there's lots in there i want you to go and give me some patient. >> get out of way you're going to get run over. >> reporter: starting on the 44th floor, a gunman would work his way through the law office from floor to floor firing as we went. he did not know his victims. >> let's go. right there. >> we were in the bathroom when it happened and we heard the smoke and fire alarm go off. and walked out and thought it was a fire alarm. we're going to grab our purses then saw the bull holes in the
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window of the conference room. then ran, ran down the staircase. >> did you hear the shooting? >> no i could not hear the shooting. i. >> reporter: the police s.w.a.t. team would begin climbing the stairwell. and it's in that stairwell where he found the suspect. >> he was going down the 30th floor. when he saw the officers he put the gun to under his chin and fired one shot with a weapon. >> reporter: the gunman would be the ninth person to die in that place on that day. he had taken the lives of eight others. people who had no reason to suspect that an angry man with a lethal judge would come to kill them. >> receptionists from across the hall ran in and said someone is shooting and killing people on the 34th floor you have to get out. it took a few seconds to
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register. that doesn't make sense. we left the office and we went through the corridor, through past the elevators to a stairwell. no one really knew what to do. there's 34 floors below us so you're not sure what to do. one of our partners went down the stairwell to see if it was okay to go down the stairwell and was confronted by the assailant. came back the stairwell and told us to move out of the area and we took the area down. >> reporter: his name john luigi feri. a businessman who had hired the
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law firm to represent him. >> he couldn't get any clients. he couldn't do any business at all. the problem is he would not know the business. >> he would go into the office. >> reporter: this letter is a culmination of this individual's explanation of how the world had done his wrong from lawyers, to investigators to receptionists at various facilities he had been there. >> reporter: two were tech nine rapid pistol. instruments of death. plus say if the guns had not jammed from time to time, perry
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would have killed even more people. investigators found thousands of rounds of ammunition in ferries car. >> this is a weapon of war. police officers don't use them. citizens couldn't use them. even hunters don't use this kind of weapon. these are only used in the military. >> i think the american people have to come to grips that this has gone on long enough. and that none of us are safe as long as we allow the pervaing on streets of its weapon. the high capacity magazines, the gunman was carrying. [ male announcer ] fact: the 100% electric nissan leaf... is more fun than ever. sees better than ever. ♪
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in a gun battle between a suspect and police. the shooting lasted nearly half an hour and ended with both the officer and the suspect dead and three other people wounded including another officer. the next day ktvu's deborah villalon recounted the dramatic events. >> reporter: at 6:00 p.m. a resident on franklin called 911 to report at 2:21. victor lee batwelt stole a bmw. he parked the car next to a black lexus. driven to san francisco and parallel parked here on pine. >> hey, no. hello. >> by now, the first officer arrived on the scene.
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he did not yet know what was going on here. he was alone armed only with a six shot survivor. >> the gunman started firing rapidly. the officer emptied his six rounds taking cover behind his place drs.. it's unclear whether he hit the gunman before suffering the fatal wound to his face. >> it appears what happen haded he was in the process of reloading when he was shot and it became -- he died subsequent to that wound. shot and lying about 30 feet from the gunman was offer james gouth. police say this is why gouth was unarmed. the he could fire as long as he pulled the trigger. two of the weapons were assault whips three were shut town. police also offered many mane
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sheens of driving. >> one magazine was loaded. >> we got shots fired. >> on collins street. >> reporter: the gunman also shot 34-year-old robert pikney. >> i struggled with him with the 45. he hit the ground. then i the may feel a homeless veteran pitney says he thought the gunman was a victim. but when he went to help, boutwell ordered a gun and
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ordered him to transfer guns and parts. that's when tetmey was suspended for 25 minutes with the gunfire. >> i could hear him reroting his weapon and reloading and reloading and reloading. i was just waiting for the police. >> nobody move the suspects is still moving. take this guy and you're at 32.59 mine. >> on top of the roof. he has a

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