get into your bay area monday, tuesday, wednesday thursday, not a lot of change. temperatures will be in the sixties under partly cloudy skies back to you. partly cloudy skies back to you. >> i'm shannon bream. president biden meeting with his national security advisors at camp david as fears of a russian invasion of ukraine growth. ♪ ♪ >> we engage in diplomacy and dialogue. at the same time, we are embarked on a path of defense and deterrence. >> shannon: u.s. secretary of state antony blinken and russians foreign minister have had back home after high-stakes talk in geneva, but with tens of thousands of russian troops gathering of the border of ukraine, the moment is critical as the world's two top nuclear powers face a test of will. at this hour we will cover the standoff in eastern europe from kiev to moscow to washington and

ask former secretary of state mike pompeo about the huge political stakes. plus, 49 years after roe v. wade, the future of the landmark decision is uncertain as the supreme court weighs a case that could change the abortion landscape in america. we will discuss with south dakota governor kristi noem who is pushing for even more restrictions in her state, only on "fox news sunday." then... >> he absolutely is not predicting that the 2022 elections would be illegitimate. >> shannon: the white house pushing back on the president's comments that the fate of the midterms hangs on democrats passing federal voting laws. we will ask our sunday panel about new fox polls showing how voters feel about the state of elections. all right now on "fox news sunday." ♪ ♪ >> shannon: at a low again from fox news in washington. president biden is huddled this

weekend with his security advisors at camp david as he faces a full-blown standoff with russian president vladimir putin. in the middle? ukraine, the former soviet republic, along with border moscow has masked tens of thousands of troops. in response, the u.s. and its allies ramping up supplies of weapons to ukraine as fears rise about the prospect of what could become the biggest conflict in europe since world war ii. and breaking this weekend, the british uncovering a plot by the kremlin to install a pro-russian leader in key have it considers an invasion of ukraine. in a moment we will get reaction from former secretary of state mike pompeo but we begin with fox team coverage, amy kelley in moscow, but first a greg palkot live in kf. greg, what is the reaction to the u.k. claim of this russian plot? >> shannon, i would say that the folks here are concerned, but expecting it as well. u.k. government claims that russian president putin is

allegedly scheming to install a pro-russia regime here in price of the current leadership, even naming russian-friendly figures who would take over. our sources, shannon, say it is possible that russia does this kind of thing, it sows disinformation and lines up folks to do its dirty business, but also they tell us, shannon, that a shadow government could only really put in place during or after an invasion. if moscow does it and it succeeds. >> shannon: the latest on the ground there this morning? >> we are watching that buildup of russian troops. it is said now to a number 125,000. if the information that we are getting is that the latest deployments are now in a town in southeastern belarus that is 30 miles from the ukraine border. it's about 60 miles from where we are standing right now in this weekend here saw the arrival of the first bit of u.s. military aid out of $200 million commitment, that's about

100 tons of what they call lethal aid, including ammunition for ukrainian troops or duking it out with pro-russia fighters in eastern ukraine. >> shannon: great, what is your sense of what the ukrainian people are thinking? >> they are worried, are often brave, and when they speak to us, sometimes hopeful. the churches hear, hear sunday filling up with folks saying prayers, lighting candles and in the face of this ominous news, wishing for the best buried take a listen to a few who spoke with us. >> i'm scared, i used to believe that russia was our friend. >> i am scared, it is outrageous that russia is doing something like this. >> we are brave and hoping that it's not going to happen. >> everything is going to be fine. >> that last fellow saying we hope everything is going to be fine. that one was our favorite, back to you. >> shannon: greg palkot in kyiv, thank you very much. it's going out to moscow where amy kellogg is live this

morning. what is the kremlin's reaction to the news out of the u.k.? >> well, the ministry of foreign affairs here was very quick to respond, shannon, putting the story up on their twitter page covered with a big blaring red stamp saying "fake," and continuing to comment that this just shows that nato, led by the "anglo-saxons," is the one and bring the pressure up and attention around ukraine, asking the west to stop "disseminating nonsense," shannon. >> shannon: what are pollutants interesting ukraine ukraine at this point? >> well i think nobody knows for sure, shannon, and a lot of people say that he doesn't even know what he wants to get out of all of this and that his strategy is a work in progress. many here say that despite ukraine's worst fears, prudent doesn't actually want claw back

another part of ukraine. he is frankly very fed up with the anti-russian sentiment that you could argue he's responsible for in ukraine. he clearly does want some sort of partnership though, that we understand, and also he thinks that russia and ukraine are basically the same people and he claims to be very worried that ukraine is fast becoming a tool of the west to be used against russia's interest. if he also says that he worries that ukraine is being overrun by neo-nazis. opposition figure says he believes that putman simply doesn't want democratic movements moving closer to his borders and one thing that a lot of people here agree on is that the bottom line for putin is he does not want any nato expansion. he's had it, he's reached a breaking point, he's also tired of feeling the west is on his case, that they are sanctioning him and squeezing him and

frankly don't respect them. he for his part doesn't appear to respect the west very much and some say he's playing the west at this point, seeing how far he can push it. one person was very knowledgeable about these things last night says he is "trolling the west, shannon." >> shannon: a very dangerous game to play, so what is his end game? >> well, a prominent journalist this morning told me that what he's very concerned about is the fact that this whole standoff has played out completely in the public eye, so the accusations and demands have not been behind closed doors, they are out there in the public domain and that makes it this much more complicated to come to a resolution that will make both sides look like they've come out on top. he says that sacrifices have to be made, concessions on both sides, but he told me he's very worried that the west doesn't quite believe russia when it says that this and that is a redline, they don't see it as read, and that he said is cause for great concern, and he's very worried about where this is all

going, shannon. >> shannon: amy kellogg live in moscow, thank you very much. let's turn out to lucas tomlinson at the white house. a very big diplomatic challenge, one of the biggest the president has faced, lucas buried him >> one of the alleged plotters named by the government, victor, was sanctioned by the u.s. treasury department last week. the white house calling the plot deeply concerning, and issued a fresh warning to moscow. >> of russia further invades ukraine, the unit states will impose swift and severe consequent says. comes between talks between -- failed to come to an agreement. >> this is not a negotiation but a candid exchange of concerns and ideas. >> the state department working on a written response to russian demands, something anthony blink and said he would not do just a few days ago. the secretary of state hinting another biden-putin summit could be in the offering. the u.s. embassy in ukraine announcing the arrival of the

first shipment of ammunition order by president biden. u.s. say antimissiles are expected to arrive. missiles, tanks, and fighter jets deploying to belarus, which officials say now puts ukraine's capital city in the crosshairs. russia's foreign minister sergey lavrov denies russia plans to invade buried him >> our concerns are not imaginary, but real threats and facts that nobody is hiding, stuffing ukraine with reference. >> u.s. officials say a decision to begin evacuating families of usmc and personnel ukraine could come as soon as monday. president biden tried to explain putin's actions. of >> president biden: he is trying to find his place in the world between china and the west. >> last week marks the end of president biden's first year in office. year two could be marked with another potential evacuation of americans overseas with tensions the highest in europe since the cold war. shannon. >> shannon: lucas tomlinson live from the white house, thank you.

joining us now, former secretary of state mike pompeo, now a fox news contributor, welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> good morning, great to be with you. >> shannon: let's start with the u.k. and it's telling us that it's discovered a plot that russia is trying to put a russian-backed or russian-sympathetic individual as the new leader in key have buried the ns leader here in the u.s. side says this kind of plotting is deeply concerning, the people have the right to determine their own future. a number of russian officials calling this misinformation. there embassy in the u.k. saying this, we are resolutely calling upon london to stop the stupid rhetorical provocations, quite dangerous in the current aided situation entered your contrary to the genuine dip emetic efforts to retain reliable -- given word of this potential plot, which could it be done short of force, how does it play out, where are we this morning? >> mike: shannon, it doesn't surprise me, i assume the u.k.

reporting is real. vladimir putin has wanted to put russia-friendly readers in the capital in kyiv and control that country for an awfully long time now. he's tried to do so through political gamesmanship, coercion, all the kinds of things i'm of the tools of statecraft that are not overt. now he appears to be massing troops not only inside of western russia, but inside of belarus as well. a short run down into ukraine from there, preparing coercive force, the capacity to change what the ukrainian people want from where they are today with president zelensky running an important country, a country that matters to the united states and wants to put someone friendly to russia. he puts this in the newspapers and the russian outlets, this is russian propaganda. vladimir burton knows that the ukraine is not going to attack russia. to suggest somehow that there is a threat from nato or from the ukraine is just propaganda, an excuse for vladimir putin to do what he ultimately wants, which is to extend his influence, his authority, his power, his

control into the former warsaw pact countries. >> shannon: you mentioned the multiple fronts knelt potentially unfolding. there is face-to-face to pharmacy, are secretary of state antony blinken with russian foreign minister sergey lavrov, they've had conversations. the next step is the u.s. is going to provide written answers to some of russia's demands, they've include things like ukraine can never join nato, critics of this think they're worried that the u.s., whatever we put in writing, russia's going to use as a context for moving in. we are told that there are now conversations about getting our diplomatic personnel out of kiev. this sounds like it's escalating, how do we bring it back from the brink. can we? >> mike: shannon, it's awful late. the real hard work of deterrence would have happened a long time ago, a year ago, when president putin demanded that we give him a new start, trudy extension, we gave it to them for nothing. it russian cyberattacks and they shut down the colonial pipeline, we told them you can only attack

certain sectors, but 16 are off-limits. when we left afghanistan in the way we did, those were the places where the of administration had a chance to establish deterrence. putin saw this and so these technical things today about whether our families will skate in ukraine, we've got to the right thing and take care of our families but these tactical things aren't what causes vladimir putin to recalculate his cost-benefit analysis. i think they don't see president biden as credible, i think they see all this talking, these pieces of paper being exchanged just not credible. they don't to the right thing, they don't protect the american people, establish deterrence and prevent, reduce the risk that what president biden called a minor encourage -- a remind me of what president obama called isis the jv, right? same kind of downplaying the risk. when he talks about a minor incursion, this concocts an awful lot of life to be lost not only in ukraine but in other places in europe and energy prices to skyrocket all across the world. >> shannon: when the president made that comment it certainly got a lot of attention

nationwide, the suggestion that a minor incursion would invoke a lesser response from the u.s. potentially. ukraine's president, without mentioning the u.s. tweeted this in part. "we want term of the great powers that there are no minor incursions and small nations. president biden made some attempts to clean that up. here's one of them. >> president biden: is an absolutely clear with president putin, he has no misunderstanding. if any, any assembled russian units move across ukrainian border, that is an invasion. >> shannon: so the earlier comment makes it sound as if the u.s. assumes russia is going to do something. if it's this lack of clarity hurting our ability to negoti negotiate? >> mike: shannon, if you listen closely, even to president biden's attempt to clean it up, he said if there's any assembled units -- we need to be unequivocal -- when one speaks in diplomacy, especially in the age of cyber and space and true capabilities that exceed what we had seen during

the time of world war ii, if there's room for doubt, if there is space, vladimir putin will drive a truck through that gap. he will perceive any weakness, and he got. we didn't send an assembled gimmick, it was disorganized. these are the kinds of things that are listen to very closely. you can tell by the response of president zelensky. he listened very closely. we had deterrences for four years. vladimir putin didn't do these kind of things. he didn't threaten, he didn't use coercive activity to try to push back on nato in the way that he did. we make sure nato was focused on its mission and when we did that blot a report and respected us. we had respect for him and his power, is a very talented statesman, he has lots of gifts, he was a kgb agent, for goodness' sakes, he knows how to use power, we should respect that and if we did that we could make sure we do the things right for the american people and reflect well on our country's history and traditions and pushing back and making sure that europe and the western world stick together together buried >> shannon: your successor, secretary blinken, said just

moments ago if one more russian force goes into ukraine and an aggressive way, that would signal a significant u.s. response, what does that telegraph to you? what's your response? >> mike: that's a much stronger statement than the one you just wait for from the president. i hope they are serious about this, i hope they are prepared not only to speak about this, and if they have a plan, but they have an execution matrix that sits under the defense so that they are prepared to actually do this in real time and it doesn't take days of meetings and discussions with allies and friends that there is a plan to execute a response that is commensurate with the activity the russians take. these are the kinds of things that reduce risk, it's how we prevent their to be a significant outbreak of conflict and war in europe. america can lead. we can't lead from behind, we have to be the leader, we should be flying weapons and systems into ukraine every single day, making a demonstrable commitment to the iranian -- excuse me, to the ukrainian people who have demanded the simple thing to have their own sovereignty and democracy in our country.

>> shannon: just months ago we had a disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan, people across the political spectrum agree on that. we lost an additional 13 lives, many people say needlessly, so course there are many americans were very wary about us getting involved in anything else. over the cato institute, this piece says ukraine is at best a peripheral u.s. interest, the ukrainian people are entitled to set their own course, but are unlucky. if they are sharply divided and live in a bad neighborhood. this is not america's responsibility to set right. so what is the proper u.s. role here? >> mike: no one is suggesting that we send the 24th entrenched to infantry division or the 82nd airborne. the suggestion is that america use its enormous capacity, its economic capacity, its diplomatic tools, all the schools of statecraft to prevent an incursion on a sovereign country like the country of ukraine, so the cato folks can play the strong and it's a gosh,

we shouldn't send our military in, but no one is suggesting that. but we are going to do if we get this right as we are going to do what we did in the trumpet ministries and, we are going to support governments that have outlined their batteries. we protected our 70 at the southern border, that's what we did at our 40 years, other countries should be permitted to do that and no rogue nation like the russians should be permitted to violate the sovereignty. with that in response from the western countries including nato. >> shannon: there have been a lot of conversations between russia with iran, china. there have been joint military exercises. there are all cans of military conversations going on with those individual countries as they work together. how worried are you about china then watching this knowing the air incursions they've had for instance into taiwan's air defense zone, how closely do you think these other nations are watching this particular dispute to make their decisions about what they think about u.s. foreign policy? >> mike: shannon, they're watching very closely.

they watch our administration when qassem soleimani threatens the united states, we took a strike. when we were under assault from different places in the world, we responded in a way and president trump said if you used chemical weapons in syria, we will respond. we did. we did it all without sending thousands of soldiers were created more any place in the world, so they are closely, there watching to see if this administration has the resolve and the steel to use all of its tools to preserve sovereignty for a nation like ukraine. i promise you not only are xi jinping and chairman kim and ayatollah watching, but so are the people of taiwan, the iranian people, and the chinese people as well, the whole world watches how america leads and when we fail to do so, we create instability and the cost, the risks to people in iowa, nevada, kansas, my home state, are real. we have to get this right. we have to establish deterrence in the model of reagan and the model that we had for our four years. if we do that, america will be safe and secure and prosperous, the world will be more stable and we won't have so many of the

challenges that are confronting us even as we sitter this morning. >> shannon: secretary pompeo, we appreciate your time this week and, of course we will keep a close eye on all these developers. >> mike: yes, ma'am, thank you, shanna, have a great day. >> shannon: objects will bring in our sunday group to discuss the critical tests ahead for the biden foreign policy. local ♪ helping them discover their dreams is one of the best parts of being a parent. one of the most important is giving them ways to fulfill them. for over 150 years, generations have trusted the strength and stability of pacific life. because life insurance can help protect and provide for the financial futures of the ones we love. talk to a financial professional about pacific life.

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>> shannon: secretary of state antony blinken saying russia has a choice to make as the u.s. and european allies try to stave off a russian invasion of ukraine. it is time now for our sunday group, are decent, resident fellow at the american enterprise institute, julie pace, executive editor -- and mo elleithee. great to have you all with us this morning. >> good to be with you. >> good morning. >> shannon: mark, i will start with you. this back-and-forth between, the idea that the u.s. is going to provide written answers to the russian demands. some say that he is celebrating even that, that we would go that

far as a win, should we be doing it? >> no, we should not be doing it. what we should be doing is laying out in the very specific terms what the conference consequences will be if russia does in fact invade, which we have not done. of what biden doesn't seem to understand is weaknesses provocative. when you project weakness in the world, your adversaries are more likely to test your resolve, and the fact is, putin thinks biden is bluffing. he remembers in 2014 when he invaded and annexed crimea, the obama-biden demonstration refused to put serious sanctions on russia or impose any real costs. if the sanctions cost him about 1% of gdp and he was willing to pay 1% of gdp for crimea. the question now is are we going to impose the kind of costs on him that would deter him, that would be too high for military action? to do that you have to sanction oil and natural gas, which are the only exports that russia cares about, and put massive sanctions on russian banks. europeans depend on russia for 40% of their natural gas, they are not eager to do that, and

biden has not laid out the specific sanctions that he would impose. he needs to show putin's that the cost would be enormous and specific. he needs to name the bank that is going to sanction, he needs to make clear what the -- show him what the cost are going to be too high for him to bear. >> shannon: somo, senator ernst is among the republicans who say the president has emboldened by recruiting. she says the president has not maximized his option for defensive -- he also knows the biden demonstration lobby democrats to reverse course and vote against north stream sanctions, necessary actions to prevent the handover of western europe's energy sector sector to the russian regime. a brand-new fox news poll this morning that shows the president is upside down, 54% disapprove on how he's doing on foreign policy, 41% approve. what does the white house do n now? >> well, look, i think -- you hear this coming out of the

white house, you hear this coming out of the state department, that they are being very clear that there's two paths moving forward or putin. we can either continue to negotiate and pursue diplomacy, or there can be swift consequences if you don't pursue diplomacy, so i think they are making that case. and look, marc and i actually don't disagree on this point, that strong economic sanctions and strong and very clear ramifications are critical, but when you look at something like nor to -- if we can go ahead and sanction it now to the bill that senator ernst was referencing and take away our leverage in this, right now the pipeline isn't operational. so putin doesn't have any leverage with it. we do, and so if we sanction it now, we lose our leverage. if we make it clear that any sort of action by the russians

could shut down this thing that putin wants more than anything, we've got some leverage. >> shannon: julie, that puts germany in the middle of this whole thing. they are a key ally, but obviously because of nor extreme two, they are in a different position than many other countries who are parties to this conversation. germany is blocking estonia from being able to export certain weapons and equipment to the ukraine. there's talk about whether president biden is -- what kind of relationship he's got with the new chancellor there. what you make of where we are with germany on this? >> well, this is why the situation is so complicate it, because yes, it is a conversation about the u.s. and russia, but it's all about the u.s. and europe and europe and russia, as you mentioned, it is so crucial to the germans and europe's energy supply is a hole at a time where we are seeing a real energy crush on the continent and so this is going to be a question about not only how biden is going to negotiate with senators in the u.s. congress about potential sanctions, but also how he's going to negotiate with a

brand-new chancellor in germany, someone he doesn't have a long-standing relationship with my former chancellor angela merkel and what the claimant in europe will be when it comes to trying to stave off russian aggression versus dealing with very real energy -- a very real energy problem that will directly impact a lot of the people that european politicians will need for their support. >> shannon: so marc, the potent situation with iran and china, concerning at best. we know that putin met with his counterparts this week and they talked about this. putin told him apparently it's time to take on the power of the americans with an increased synergy between our two countries. it we know that naval exercises are being held with russia, iran, and china. there's pressure to change the economics of who cooperates with the west, who cooperates elsewhere with may be these three, what about that part of this? >> well, you know, this is why this is such a crucial standoff right now. a lot of people and a lot of americans look and say what do i care about ukraine, what does it

matter what happens in ukraine? ukraine isn't las vegas, it doesn't stay in ukraine. the reason we are having this crisis is because of the disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan, the last time we had this crisis in ukraine was after president obama refused to enforce a his redline in syria and sent a message of weakness which emboldened vladimir putin. if we do now not stand up to put an end ukraine and forced him to back off with massive specific sanctions and military aid to the ukrainians, guess what? china is watching and they will look at it and say if putin can invade ukraine, we can invade taiwan. north korea is watching. iran is watching. this has -- this could spin out of control on a global scale and cause conflagrations across the world, so we need to start projecting strength in ukraine. we should immediately, immediately -- president biden should announce the nor extreme 2 over. with proven that it cannot be trusted to hold ukraine energy

supplies hostage and then he should lay out specific sanctions, what are the energy sanctions? the reason we haven't on that is because the germans don't want to do it. if he comes lay layout though sanctions, lay out the specific and russian banks that will be sanction and show the cost to putin, that the cost will be higher than what he is willing to bear. >> shannon: thank you, panel, we will see you a little bit later in the show. up next, states move to the front lines of the abortion battle with the supreme court soon to decide a blockbuster case. we will talk to south dakota governor kristi noem on plans to pass new restrictions in her state. she's next. ♪ ♪ ok, let's talk about those changes to your financial plan. bill, mary? hey... it's our former broker carl. carl, say hi to nina, our schwab financial consultant. hm... i know how difficult these calls can be. not with schwab. nina made it easier to set up our financial plan. we can check in on it anytime. it changes when our goals change. planning can't be that easy. actually, it can be, carl. look forward to planning with schwab.

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january 22nd anniversary of roe v. wade, finding warmth and the prospect that this 49th annual march for life could be the last. >> there's never been a march like this because there's never been a moment like this. >> fridays march followed a setback for abortion rights advocates. on thursday the court allowed texas' controversial six week abortion ban to remain in place while the legal battle plays out. >> we believe that a post roe world is in sight. >> texas state senator offered the band. >> this law unlike other pro-life laws we passed was not blocked and it's been saving lives since day one trend. >> but a separate case before the court poses a greater threat to roe. dobbs v jackson women's health organization challenges mississippi's 15 week abortion ban. if upheld, it could effectively remove a nationwide constitutional guarantee of previability abortions. in response, several states have taken preemptive action. >> regardless of whether or not the supreme court overturns

roe v. wade, new jersey's position in supporting the right to reproductive autonomy will remain clear and unchanged. >> new jersey governor phil murphy signed a new law this month that guarantees the right to abortions in his state. other states such as washington, colorado, new york, hawaii, delaware, new mexico, had already either expanded health care coverage or reduced restrictions for abortions. the pro-abortion research organization says overall 12 states now have so-called trigger laws in place that would immediately ban abortions if roe is overturned. more states are anticipated to tighten restrictions. the mississippi ruling is expected this spring. in washington, alexandria half, fox news. >> shannon: joining us now from sioux falls, south dakota governor kristi noem. governor, welcome to "fox news sunday." >> governor noem: thank you so much for having me on, shannon. >> shannon: governor, you've made clear you're among those who would like to see roe struck down. brand-new fox news poll and shows this, when asked about

that, 63% say let it stand, 31% say it's time to overturn it. are you out of step with the american people on this? >> governor noem: no. in fact, 71% of americans believe there should be some reasonable restrictions on abortions. you know, when i ran for governor, i talked about being the most pro-life governor in the country. science has proven to us that life begins at conception and the bill that i'm bringing this year to our legislatures says that one heartbeat is detected, that then abortions should not be an options for people, that we need to protect those babies and shannon, i think what's interesting in south dakota is we've proven this issue doesn't have to be divisive. last year i brought a bill that protected babies upon the diagnosis of down syndrome and it unanimously passed my legislature. republicans and democrats together believe that when parents get that diagnosis of down syndrome, that baby shouldn't be aborted just because of that diagnosis. >> shannon: so the bill that you talked about, the new measure you've got that you're working on this year is very

much like texas sph, the one that's been back and forth at the supreme court, essentially says that people who ate a woman getting an abortion after the time that heartbeat is detected, they can actually as private citizens bring a case against these women, so this week the supreme court had some dealings with that particular bill out of texas and justice sotomayor said this about it. she said it's a complicated, private bounty hunter scheme that violates nearly 50 years of this court's precedents. she went on to talk about the case, she says it's a disaster for the rule of law and a grave disservice to the women in texas who have a right to control their bodies. how do you respond? >> governor noem: well, that's her opinion. that is not a legal defense of what that decision was, and the texas law has been upheld three times now. the south dakota law is different, it is modeled after the texas law and says one that heartbeat is detected, that then abortion is not an option. and frankly, since we got to the

texas law in place, lives have been saved, and south dakota there's a private right of action because that is different than the texas model. but we think that that really gives people the option to really not insert estate into that relationship, but make sure that people have the opportunity to go after those doctors that do perform abortions and save those lives so that we can continue to be bold in doing that. i was very clear when i ran for governor and since i've been governor that we wanted to get up every single day and look for ways to protect every single life. the equality does come from valuing every single life and that is what we've done by putting an unborn child advocate and the governor's office. i saw glenn youngkin just did that as well and i was so grateful to see him at that job description to the governor's office there. and we will continue to advocate for showing exactly what science has proven over and over over the years, that this truly is a life and that it needs to be

defended. >> shannon: pro-choice advocates say the lack of access to abortion is most detrimental to women of color, to people who are struggling for financial stability, we know that just over half of the women who have sought abortions there in south dakota say that they had a financial interest or a struggle, not thinking that they could actually have this child, so what kind of resources, what kind of effort is the state making to help these women if you're telling them they can't have an abortion, where is the assistance otherwise? >> governor noem: that's one of the things that we need to do a better job of across the country, taking care of mothers, letting them know that there is options. we had about 120 abortions in the state of south dakota last year, which most people would say is in very many, but it's 122 many. and we do have amazing centers and people that wrap their arms around his mother's in these families and let them know that there are options for that child, that there is adoption, that there is ways that they will come alongside them and mentor them so that they can

teach them how to be parents and help them through the struggles that come with raising a child right here in sioux falls, the alpha center is a fantastic organization that's been doing it for years. and they constanchpion sure that they know there are other options other than abortion. >> shannon: let's talk covid-19. you've gotten a lot of attention for the way it's been handled in south dakota. not surprising that you would have critics on the left but let's talk about your critics on the right. they say you considered are actually out a number of things they had a problem with potentially, an executive order that required some people to stay at home, proposing legislation that would have given your state health secretary the power to shut down both public and private places, some powers that would have been granted to the counties to do similar things, and using the national guard to do contact tracing, so at what point did you pivot away from those policies, and why? >> governor noem: so those were not executive orders, those were bills that were bought in the legislature, never put into

action and never utilized. the national guard was used to support our covid response and everything was voluntary and an option that people could utilize if they wanted to. and so what we did is partnered together with our people. i think there will always be critics, shannon, we have realized that, people in this day and age, they hear their leaders talk about division and trying to create anger and fear when really what we should be doing is talking about adding people have personal responsibility, letting people make the best decisions for their families, have flexibility and get through this together. we did that here in south dakota and i think they're people outside this state that certainly want to criticize. i guess i can take it. i've been taking it for a while now. we will do that but we will keep our focus on what's best for our state. >> shannon: come of this comes from state lawmakers who say they were the ones were true conservatives in actually pushing back so some of these things didn't take place. at last check on your state help the partner website, the positive test rate for pcr tests is 41%, so what are you doing

now in south dakota to get that number down? >> governor noem: we're doing exactly what we've been doing the last two years, and we are right in the middle of where all the states rank right now for cases, but shannon, in south dakota we haven't focused on cases, we focus on hospitalization rates. we know that we can't stop this virus, so we can slow it down, that we need to focus on hospital capacity, taking care of people should they get very, very sick, and so we've been partnering with our hospital systems to continue to do that. nothing has changed in south dakota, this is our priority, we are working together to take care of those individuals, but there are cases, we know the people have been vaccinated and some people haven't. but regardless, that we are going to give them as many options as possible to get through this and to be healthy again. >> shannon: so topic that has made a lot of headlines for your, the ncaa this week talking about how it will assess or allow, who can assess which transgender athletes will be

able to particul participate in. you're pushing a bill that will prevent trans women's and girls participating on sports teams for girls for women or for females in your state. the last time a piece of legislation came through you vetoed it. you did put out a couple of executive orders that a number of conservative thought were watered down, so weak on this, so what has changed and what will you do to get this across the finish line? will you sign it? >> governor noem: well, shannon, that is simply not true. i did not veto a bill. what i did as i asked my legislature for changes and they rejected it. so immediately that very same day i put executive orders in place to protect girls sports, and this is about fairness, this about making sure that her girls have a chance to be successful and to compete, to win scholarships, potentially go on to play professional sports beyond that. we want them to have the opportunity to do that. title ix fought for that years and years ago and i've been doing this for years, which started almost five years ago now in a sport of rodeo where we protected girls events.

so now i'm bringing a bill to the legislature that will be the strongest bill in the nation in protecting fairness in girls sports and i'm hopeful that my legislatures will support it. >> shannon: you're facing a primary challenge from a former speaker of the house there, the statehouse, steve. this is what he says about you and your profile nationally. he says we need a full-time governor who's focused on south dakota, not on washington, d.c., who makes decisions based on what's best for their constituents, not what's best for their career. how do you respond to his critique? >> governor noem: i think the people of south dakota are doing very well and i'm not going to criticize steve at this time, but we are doing very well, we are focused on our race, with got a lot of work to do here in south dakota and i'm looking forward to talking about these issues and really how well we are doing in our state, preparing for the future and defending our freedoms. >> shannon: what is thall to rul

office in 2024? what's tha? >> governor noem: i don't think there is a call for me to run for national office. i've been running for reelection here in south dakota to be governor, and i'm hoping that the people here will support that and allow me another opportunity to continue the good work that we've done. we've got more to do. we've got the strongest economy in the country, we've got historic revenues, we put more money into reserves than ever before. we are investing in long-term infrastructure projects, our people are doing very well, so we are going to continue to focus on that but there's more opportunities ahead. >> shannon: if any of those opportunities involve 2024, feel free to come back and join us on "fox news sunday" to make any announcements, thank you for your time, we appreciate it. >> governor noem: thank you, shannon. >> shannon: when we come back, brand-new polls on what voters think on electing president biden to a second te term. ♪ ♪

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but it will help you and your family stay safe >> president biden: i did not anticipate that there would be such a stalwart effort to make sure that the most important thing was that president biden didn't get anything done. >> shannon: a potential glimpse into democrats midterm strategy as president biden takes a shot at republicans during a rare press conference wednesday. we are back now with the panel, and a little bit more of our fox news poll and, brand-new, fresh out this morning, mo, 2024 votes, if it were held today, election today, reelect president biden 36%, vote for someone else, 60%. that someone else number is higher than it ever got for president trump, so what does the white house do now? >> look, those numbers aren't great. i also think you need to take a little bit of caution. i remember in 1994, and in 2010, when barack obama and bill clinton lost their midterm

spigot everybody was riding the political obituaries and they both came back and won reelection, so there is time here. but you know, joe biden has done -- did very well in the first half of his first year as president with a clear message that showed results. getting shots in your arms, getting money in your wallet's, referencing the relief package. was about to roll out the third part, which was jobs in your neighborhood. talking about the infrastructure bill, and then zach got slowed down and then it started to feel a little less like results in the national conversation, and that's when you started to see his numbers take a huge downturn. there's an opportunity to go back, talk about those three pillars of success so far, but then do what he did in his press conference the other day and say we've laid the foundation, but it hasn't been enough yet. here's what's next. and demonstrating that he and democrats have a path forward to

deal with people's anxieties over covid and over inflation, and that republicans don't. that's got to be the framing of the conversation for the next year out of the white house. if they want to be in the game this election, and in a bus which money for. >> shannon: julie, there hasn't been a pivot or sort of a reset. in fact democrats spent a lot of political capital pushing these election overhaul bills that they knew weren't going to pass, trying to nuke the filibuster, knew that wasn't going to happen. why do that? especially week that has not been good for the white house the last few days, losing at the supreme court in their ocean mandate. why swing for the fences when democrats knew none of that could succeed? >> i think this is the big question for the lycos, when mo talks about the weight of having to prove it to results, that is certainly true. any president wants to be able to go out to the american people and share what they've actually done in office. the problem for biden's that he keeps running into the same opposition and some of that is coming from within his own party. yes, he has a majority, but it is extremely narrow and he does

not have the full democratic majority in the senate on his side to pass many of his priorities, so how's he going to get through that? what is the mechanism for him to get results, because as you say, on voting rights in particular i do think there was some political imperative for biden to show that this was a priority, to show he was going to try to take some action, even if he knew it wasn't going to pass, but it didn't pass, so now what is the next step? this is where i think they are caught in a little bit of a bind right now. they're always going going to have this blockaded unless biden can find a way to change the minds of two very important democratic senators and right now i think is very little indication he's going to be able to do that. >> shannon: they didn't get these voting change bills through. on the liver democrats have talked about that they have worries about the legitimacy of of the next round of elections, the president was pressed on this in a number of different ways during his press conference and there were a lot of folks who felt he could have been more clear the way he answered those questions and sort of this film of doubt he left out there. the wall street editorial board

claims what's worse than a president who claims the election is a sham? to presidents. mark, where do we go from here on this presidents questioning whether elections will be legit? >> it is shameful. it was shameful when trumpeted it and it was shameful when biden said it. look, this is indicative of the big problem that biden has with his presidency, he was trying to ram through partisan electioe elections through a senate using -- by getting rid of the filibuster. the worst thing that happened to joe biden was winning those two senate seats in georgia because it allowed the left-wing of the democratic party to convince him to abandon his promise to be a unifier, a uniter who reaches across the aisle, brings the country together and convince him he could be fdr, he could pass this transformational left-wing agenda through congress and the reality is americans didn't elect him to do that. that's why there's a 50/50 senate, that's what he has a couple vote majority in the

house. it was amended for compromise, it was amended for unity, a mandate for reaching across the aisle. and now's the time for him to fulfill that mandate because come november, he's going to have to because when republicans take over at least one has a conference, there's not going to be democratic and only reconciliation so better start now so it at least looks like it's a choice. >> shannon: with a very slight majorities right now there have been questions about why the president has seen on some issues to align with the progressives and his party knowing he doesn't have the majorities to get that stuff done. he had to say this week i'm not bernie sanders, i'm not a socialist. there are now all these pieces flying around in the chatter of washington, chief of staff ron klain, a lot of time on twitter, has pulled the president further left than the moderate he campaigned he would be. >> you know, look, one of the biggest -- when i'm sitting around talking to my friends in the democratic operative world, one of the biggest concerns i hear about this white house is we need to hear him out there talking more about the twin

anxieties of inflation and of -- and of people's anxiety want covid. not even so much the public health part of it, but the impact that it's having on our lives, the prospect of another shutdown or anything like that. he needs to be out there aggressively talking about those two pieces. the thing that they've got going for them is as much is the president's numbers are getting battered, republicans aren't talking about those issues in any real way yet. and so there's an opportunity for him to take the lead on that in turn things around. >> shannon: polling this week also shows the american public has lost confidence in him to handle covid as well. a lot of tough issues for the white house. thank you, panel, we will see you next sunday. up next, a final word on the week ahead. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ >> shannon: that is it for us today, i'm shannon bream. keep it to fox news channel interlocal fox nation for the very latest on the conflict between ukraine and russia. i will see you for "fox news @ night" it's in week next at night on the east coast, 9:00 on the west coast, have a great week and we will see you next "fox news sunday." ♪ ♪ we learn about covid-19, the more questions we have.

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