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>> shannon: i'm shannon bream, post-election shakeups as republicans prepare to take the gavel and former president donald trump regains access to twitter and nancy pelosi. >> the hour has come for a new generation to lead the caucus. >> shannon: republicans take control of one house of congress and president biden faces a tough choice about his own political future. and -- >> in order to make america great and glorious, i am announcing my candidacy for president of the united states.
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>> shannon: president trump is in and elon musk reinstates his twitter account. what divided government means for washington and the country with analyst bret hume. plus -- >> president biden: it is unlikely it was fired from russia. >> shannon: prospect of russia war bleeds into europe and rattles world leaders as missile strikes a nato ally. we are joined by mike warner, top democrat on senate intelligence. then ♪ >> shannon: the taylor swift ticketmaster snafu, our sunday panel weighs in on call for investigation and accountability and peter doocy trading with the president. >> president biden: take one question for the most
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interesting guy in the press. >> thank you, mr. president. >> shannon: all now on fox news sunday. >> shannon: hello from fox news in washington, news breaking overnight, five people are dead and 18 more injured after a mass shooting at an lgbtq nightclub in colorado springs. a suspect is in custody and they do not know the motive. we'll bring you more on that when we learn it. president biden returned from a trip to changed dynamic. republicans are poise to return to power in the house giving them leverage or mr. biden agenda facing questions about a second term. among challenges, he will face tougher scrutiny of additional aid to ukraine. we're joined by mike warner and republican tom cotton. we begin with team coverage, fox news senior correspondent greg
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palkot is live in kyiv. first to lucas. >> president biden turned 80's, becoming the first octogenarian in the white house. >> big headline was the wedding of the president's daughter. and biden will be 82 at start of a potential second term. biden says he intends to run again. on capitol, two democratic icons in their 80'ses, house speaker nancy pelosi and house majority leader hoyer stepping down from leadership, paving way for younger leaders as republicans get ready to take control in january. the gop promising to investigate the 39's son hunter. late this week the president returned from an overseas trip, his first face-to-face meeting with chinese president xi
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jinping, who was appointed to precedented third term and the attorney general announce a probe into the former president, explaining why it is needed. >> based on recent developments, including former president announcement he is candidate for president. >> william roseanne barr weighing in. >> i think they have the basis for legitimately indicting the president. >> the white house says it was not aware and the justice department acted on its own. >> shannon: thank you, we turn to greg palkot, live in kyiv, hello, greg. >> big nuclear plant in southern part of the country and working through an international high-stakes drama. u.k. has been pummelled by russian missiles and drones, many shot down. some got through, several were
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killed, injured, civilian sites hit and the energy infrastructures, power knocked out for millions. one explosion happened in poland, first thought to be russian missile, questions about alliance response. u.s. and others decided it was ukrainian air defense missile, investigators were there. russian president putin low profile as for ukrainian zelenskyy, he is not in a mood to negotiate with cold and snow arriving officials say they will defeat russia, but they are more grim about it. take a listen. >> we understand that next month will be even harder than it was previously, we are sure that in any case we will win. we live for this victory. >> and a message from the head of a utility here, shannon, suggesting to ukrainians with
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energy shortfalls in mind, if they could lead this country for a couple of months, next few months, winter, maybe they should. back to you. >> shannon: greg, thank you very much. joining us in washington arkansas senator tom cotton and author of brand-new book "only the strong." senator, welcome back to fox news sunday. let's talk domestic and inter-working of the gop. leadership elections this week and open challenge to mcconnell by florsoern rick scott, i understand the meeting was contentious, this is what senator mcconnell said. >> i am not offended by having an opponent or having votes in opposition, everyone has said we had a good opportunity to
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discuss various differences. >> shannon: it was heated at times and there are fractures, how do you move forward and reassess 2023 and 2024? >> i saw the story about the angry accounts of the meeting, whoever were sources have a low threshold for tension. >> shannon: they said it was not kumbaya. >> i have seen worse in my days in the army. it was frank discussion, we had a disappointing election, but one thing we agree on, we need to have the election last week and move forward united to make sure we help elect herschel walker in the runoff. we're looking forward to the next congress and have one more election in the 2022 election and big difference in 50/50 senate in stopping most extreme
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policies and nominations from joe biden and 51-49 senate. >> shannon: a lot of folks are fast-forwarding to 2024. former president trump is in, and back on twitter, elon says, you are welcome back. >> i opted out of being a candidate in 2024, i don't plan to be a strategist or pundit for 2024. i suspect more candidates will announce in the months ahead, i want to focus on the 2022 and want to elect herschel walker next month. >> shannon: you have been a vocal critic of china, this is what the president had to say after their meeting. >> president biden: i do not think there is imminent attempt on the part of chinese to invade taiwan and i made it clear that our policy in taiwan has not changed at all. >> shannon: what do you make of that, are you convinced that
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there is not immediate threat regarding taiwan? >> i'm not, shannon, i'm concerned as early as next year xi jinping could go for the jug lar, this is an important year for him in china, he's made it clear that by the end of the five-year term in 2000 27, he wants to invade and annex taiwan to china. he may see window to do so in next couple years in same way putin went for ukraine earlier this year. if president biden believed invasion is not imminent, i suggest it is not helpful to say that publicly, it might invite adventurism from xi jinping. we should be working with taiwan and making sure they are armed up to prevent any such invasion. >> shannon: you are worried about saytok, collection of data, fbi warning about that,
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direc wray said this, we store tiktok data in the united states with backup in singapore, data center located outside of china and none of the data is subject to china law, is that a lie? are you calling them a liar? if so, what can we do about it? >> shannon: they are false statements, there are reports indicating that data is accessible in mainland china. tiktok is subject to communist china law and tiktok is one of the most massive surveillance programs ever, not just content you upload, all the data on your phone and apps and facial imagery and where your eyes look on your phone. if you use tiktok, delete it from your phone or get a new phone all together. >> shannon: saudi arabia, this week biden administration got
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involved in a federal lawsuit here in the states. they were asked to weigh in whether or not they have position on whether the crown prince has sovereign immunity. they did say there is sovereign immunity and this lawsuit regarding jamal khashoggi. fred ryan said this, president biden is failing to uphold america's most cherished values and granting a license to kill to one of the most egregious human rights abusers. do you agree the president is betraying american values by weigh nothing to say sovereign immunity? >> what the administration decided in granting sovereign immunity is keeping with custom of lawsuits involving forn heads of state, it would have been a break of custom to not grant that kind of immunity. saudi arrst abuser of human rig.
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look at iran what china does to harvest organs or genocide against minorities. if we didn't have allies who shared our sensibilitieses, we went have any. saudi arabia has been an important partner for 80 years. president obama and president biden have taken steps to oftericize and alienate this important partner. we should work with them to protect our interest and the interest of our allies in the middle east. >> shannon: how do we rate these things? talk about china and iran, saudi arabia has human rights abuses, this is a u.s.-based journalists, murdered by the crown prince knowing about or being okay with the operation, we can't just toss that aside?
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>> the way i look at it, what matters most about governments around the world is whether they are democratic or nondemocratic and more if they are american or non-american and saudi arabia has been an american partner going back 80 years. that doesn't mean we overlook or excuse countries that are pro-american and we can help reagan did in south korea and ph to partner with countries that don't always share our political system and social sensibility. >> shannon: biden didn't have to weigh in here, they chose to take that step, that sounds like overlooking. >> they didn't have to weigh in, it would be breach with customary practice and international law to not weigh in. every case going back decades, citing the state department statement, heads of state have
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been given sovereign immunity. we changed the law to american citizens have been able to sue and government sponsored terrorist attacks and get retributi retribution. it would be major break and effort in the campaign to alienate saudi arabia not to recognize that traditional immunity. >> shannon: thank you for your time, happy thanksgiving. >> happy thanksgiving. >> shannon: mark warner chairs senate intelligence committee. welcome back. let's start with tiktoks, you have concerned about this, as painful as it is for me to say, if donald trump was right, we could have taken action then, would be easier than taking action in november of 2022. did washington not listen because they didn't like the messenger and what can we do
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now? >> i think donald trump was right, tiktoks is enormous threat, a threat on two levels, one, it is a massive collector of information, oftentimes of our children. they can visualize even down to your ski keystrokes. if you are a parent and have a kid on tiktok, be concerned, that data is being stored somewhere in beijing, the idea that we can somehow separate out tiktok from the fact the engineers writing the code i think it just department trying to come up with a solution. i will take a look at that solution, got a huge mountain to climb. the second problem is that tiktok in a sense is a broadcasting network in a sense
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and if the chinese communist party and tiktok is reliant chinese law states that. if they want to dial up the fact we're going to decrease content that criticizes chinese leadership and increase content kids may be seeing saying, taiwan really is part of china, that is a distribution model that would make rt or sputnik pail in comparison. >> shannon: bipartisan agreement on that. talk about the issue with the crown prince in saudi arabia, you heard what the senator said about how we characterize the relationship with saudi arabia. you said in 2018 when president trump was in the white house he failed to hold saudi arabia responsible in any meaningful way for the death of jamal khashoggi, you heard what the state department said saying he should have sovereign immunity, will you call out president biden for not being tougher?
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>> i hate to go so many places where i agree with my friend tom cotton, he is on the intelecommittee with me, the reason there was a grant of sovereign immunity, even to leaders we don't like, as much to protect american leaders and american diplomats when they are posted abroad from being subject to saud saudi arabia law or south african law, this has been historical precedent. do i think the murder of jamal khashoggi was awful? absolutely. am i disappointed in most recent times when saudi arabia used to work against the soviet union for decades decided to escape the middle in term of siding with democracy against putin illegal invasion of ukraine? very disappointed there.
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we need to be enough of a realist to realize saudi arabia has been a ballwart against iran and if there are ways we can continue to push the saudi government, toward greater reform and willingness to get off the sideline and stand with democracy against putin's war in ukraine, that would be a good thing. >> shannon: was it unfair to criticize president trump for not being tougher two or three years ago and say the biden administration is doing what they have to do? >> youa saw many members with the trump administration at that point in time call out the saudi leadership for the brutal murder of jamal khashoggi, what you didn't see because of this strange affinity that president trump and his familying -- remember his son received massive
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saudi investment funds. >> shannon: same sex major bill that has gotten through the first vote in senate, it essentially ensures all 50 states will recognize same-sex marriages from other states, warning biden could use this for a weapon. here is somebody ted cruz said this week. >> any charity that believes major is the union of one man and one woman, any charity that does not embrace same-sex marriage, this bill is designed to strip their 501c3 status. >> shannon: senator mike lee -- >> first of all, make it clear, one more time ted cruz is 100% wrong. >> shannon: why? >> on that statement, you would not see and one thing that gain 12 republican votes and i think
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more on final passage is that greate religious freedom put in. the mormon church, a number of main-stream protestant nomination, series of faith organizations actually support this marriage equality law. this marriage equality law is not only about same-sex marriage, validates something that literally 60 years ago my state of virginia was illegal, interracial marriage, this is where vast majority ofern ms americans are at, we saw 47 house members vote in favor of this legislation. mr. cruz, one more time, saying stuff that has no basis and truth or fact. >> shannon: you know critics are worr worried senator mike mike lee
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says people hold whatever faith they are, this conviction about traditional marriage, his wording, he offered this miami, he says it is done in good faiths, it will offer further protection to people and religious organizations, why not allow a vote on that? more protection for those with religious freedom? >> i point out the fact i believe mike lee is a member of the mormon church. his organization, his church -- >> shannon: he still has concerns. >> his church endorsed the legislation and my understanding and i have not followed two nights ago, i believe there was an offer on 50-vote margin for mike lee to have that kind of miami, i think this is a series of folks that don't want this to happen and will throw up roadblock after roadblock after -- >> shannon: would you 4r9 him have a vote on the miami?
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>> my understanding was that vote was offered. >> shannon: my understanding, they want to do it after thanksgiving. >> if the vote was offered thiseck woo, which i believe it was, i'm sure your viewers will correct me if i'm wrong, that was kind of the -- office, they want to offer after thanksgiving. >> other than simply trying to delay, other than simply trying to burn off the clock so we can't get to things -- >> shannon: his vote? >> if he had a chance to have the vote on thursday, why didn't he take the vote then? >> shannon: we'll ask him. >> great. >> shannon: my understanding his office will offer after thanksgiving, you can look at it and maybe win over a few more votes. >> end of the day, some opponents want to run out the clock. again, i urge people of goodwill to look not only at mormon church, but all church organizations that have felt religious freedom is protected,
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there is nothing in this bill that would require any faith to marry anyone they don't want married in their house of worship. >> shannon: i know they have more concern at religious universitieses and schools, as well. we wish you the best thanksgiving, you have a lot to celebrate this year. >> shannon: room of rivals as first big republican cattle call for race for the white house takes place in vegas and discuss with bret hume, who was there and who wasn't.
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>> shannon: president trump officially kicked off his 2024 campaign on tuesday amidspeculation who will primary rivals may be, fever pitch. in a moment bring in analyst brit hume to discuss stakes for the former president over the next few weeks. first live to where the republican parties gathered for the first time since republicans won the house.
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hello, alex. >> good morning, the speakers were happy republicans won the house issue not thrilled by the margin or the gop in the senate and governor races and many who attended blame former president trump. >> if you repeatedly lose to a really bad team, it is time for new leadership. >> stop supporting crazy unelectable candidates. >> inside the republican jewish coalition annual leadership meeting big names strove to impress. >> the damage being done in washington is catastrophic. >> this is about the very soul of america. >> the event is seen as starting line for potential presidential hopefuls. >> i've never lost an election and i'm not going to start now. >> challenging the only candidate so far. >> we have to stay strong and we have to fight and frankly you better hope that a certain person wins the election in
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2024. >> former president trump addressed the coalition via web stream. ♪ >> his former vice president was there in person urging republicans to correct course and move on. >> we must unite our party around a bold optimistic agenda. >> governor ron desantis closed out as keynote speaker. >> we have a lot more to do and i have only begun to fight. >> one interesting moment came when senator ted cruz asked the crowd to support his campaign for senate, seemingly implying he would not be seeking out the white house and he has not dismiss the idea and did reiterate his focus is keeping the position he has, shannon. >> shannon: thank you very much. joining us now fox news senior analyst brit hume, welcome back. >> brit: thank you, nice to see
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you. >> shannon: we last spoke, the attorney general announced a special counsel picking up investigations into the former president in regard to january 6 and the documents at mar-a-lago. the president asked why aren't other presidents being investigated and added this. >> of course, hillary clinton illegally deleted 33,000 e-mails after getting a subpoena from the u.s. congress, she is allowed to get a subpoena and delete after the subpoena, not before, after. >> shannon: he knows there is a sense among americans there is double standard, is he going to turn this latest development into actual political gain in some way? >> brit: he will with his hard-core supporters, shannon, there is a set within the
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republican ranks who think the president is the best president in history and basically he can do no wrong. their ranks are, i think, smaller than the number of people who voted for him when he ran in 2020 and smaller than the number of people who will vote for him now. but nonetheless, anything that happens to him will make him seem in their eyes a martyr. i think it is entirely appropriate for independent counsel to be appointed in his case, but for the justice department to do that, attorney general to do that while leaving the president's son's investigations and those associated with him to be handled by main justice seem to me is a problem. the reason you appoint independent counsel, there is conflict of interest, there is where mr. biden and garland are concerned and investigation
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would fall under the heading require that and they haven't done that. that opens them up to reasonable criticism. >> shannon: talking about 2024 and context of former president making a run at it, american spectator says it is not time to care who the 2024 nominee is, republicans have to figure out how to get together this ground game on early voting, mail-in boxes like hand-crafting widgets while your opponents are shipping, it is time to demand the gop figure out how to compete in this new era. what kind of conversations are you hearing about how republicans may have to change the way they do this? >> brit: that is sound advice, but comparing apples and oranges, candidate selection is a legitimate concern and always has been. nuts and bolts of getting voters
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to the poll is related, but separate matter, no reason the republicans can't deal with both. they have to deal with early voting and whether one party is taking full advantage and one party is not, so i think that is editorial is fine, but you can walk and chew gum at the same time, one trusts. >> shannon: house gop leaders say that is what they're going to do when they take over in a couple of months and say they will have investigations. you reference hunter biden, that is one of their targets. this is pushback from white house counsel office, congr congressional republicans are going after president biden with attacks chalked full of debunked conspiracy theories, how does the house gop navigate this? >> brit: it has to be done with some skill. if the republican party and the
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new position as in control of the house, is seen as spending energies, all energies on investigations and contentious hearing and all the rest, how will that sit with voters? it comes to investigations, legit investigations beyond that of hunter biden, investigation of other matters and how the justice department handle them seem to me would be fair ground, they need to be careful, investigations are inevitable. >> shannon: happy thanksgiving, hope you join us soon. up next president biden students loan cancellation plan, going to the supreme court. bring our sunday group to discuss borrowers in limbo and accusing the president of political overreach.
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>> we're asking the nation's highest court of the land to allow us to deliver student debt relief to millions of middle-class americans. outrageous republican officials and special interest group are trying to block that. >> shannon: white house press secretary karine jean-pierre on the administration's emergency
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appeal to the supreme court after multiple lower courts ruled their student loan forgiveness plan unconstitutional. joining us, josh kraush, marie, guy benson and jeff mason, welcome, and good sunday morning to all of you. start here, one of the lower court judges overruled the program and said in this country, we are not ruled by all powerful executive with a pen and phone, we are ruled by constitution that provides for three distinct and independent branches of government, jeff, the white house says he we have the power. >> they will stick to that and confident they are going to win, popularity of this program has been surprising, i remember speaking to a white house official who initially was opposed to this and ruled it out and man, has it been successful, the political support, the legal implication have been a
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challenge and they will fight out in the court. >> shannon: sitting at supreme court and we wait for action on that and "washington post" is raising questions, guy, an extension would be popular and georgia has a senate runoff coming up, extension looks like buying votes with taxpayer money, they are skeptical. >> that is what this part of the program is and even more egregious abuse of power with this so-called forgiveness scheme that is deeply unfair to vast majority of american voters who do not have college or loan debt, it is inflationary and just flatly illegal. the quote from the judge is exactly right, i suspect if the white house gets what they are asking for, a hearing of the supreme court, they will not like the outcome. you might not agree with the judges or justices, but no less
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figure than nancy pelosi said last year that the president did not have the authority to do what he turned around and did and we are a nation of laws, if the nation like this to happen, go to congress and get it passed. >> shannon: federalist is writing about this and cite this online mag that specializes in magazine issues and poll of people who applied or planning to, people who benefit, nearly three-fourths of them admitted they would spend the money on nonessentials including vacation, smartphones and drugs and alcohol. marie. >> not one to throw water on online polls, there is no requirement they use this money to pay for loans, it is popular, many legal experts have said it is legal and it supports middle-class, working-class americans, millions of whom have
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been thrown into financial chaos by these republican groups trying to challenge this in the courts. we have millions of americans today who thought they were operating under system where they would not have to repay their loans and the same time trying to ram through tax cuts for the healthy. talk about legal issues all day, from political perspective, this is popular program that helps working and middle-class americans and if republican want to say actually, we're okay with big tax cuts for corporation and saving big pharma, not okay helping you with $10,000 of loan relief, that is a tough political statement, shannon. >> shannon: the argument was people think they are getting their loans forgiven and this is chaos, that gets to argument, any president could say, i will start this program, if the court stops it, they have thrown you into chaos, even if what i did
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was illegal. this is first time i heard the white house defer to the supreme court to try to bail them out politically, the white house, what they did, viewed as political ploy to get underager voters energized, you saw healthy turnout in the midterm. america is divided in the polling, quick sugar high before midterm and dealing with illegal problems and they realize they blame republican shall ifs, it is courts blocking their ability to get this done. i don't think the supreme court would be, look at this kindly, it is taking what should be done in congress to the executive branch and ultimately may get political sugar high, it will likely be blocked in the courts. >> shannon: supreme court pushed back on executive power during obama, as well, not just partisan issue, for them they say you have gone too far executive branch.
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yeah, for a party that lectures about democracy, this is a matter of democracy and the rule of law. if you want to go through the democratic process and let the system work the way it was designed, go ahead and do it, to say this is republican-caused chaos, this was political ploy and should be treated as such. >> shannon: we have to take a break, calls to investigate ticketmaster after the taylor swift ticket snafu shines a light on the company's practices, that is next.
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♪ >> shan handed, ticketmaster says their system was overwhelmed, sold 2 million tickets, most in a single day for any artist ever. there are questions about house minority leader tickets remain and how they will be sold and problems have congress demanding answers. we're back with the panel. i want to start with ceo of
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liberty medium, own majority stake in live nation, here is what he said about handling this. >> we are working hard on this and again, building capacity for peek demand is something we attempt to did, this exceeded every expectation and taylor swift hasn't been on the road for three or four years and that is causing a huge issue. >> shannon: taylor swift is angry. and many fans are angry, pr strategy issue not the best thing to blame taylor swift, she may get regulatory action, ticketmaster is a monopoly, only way to get tickets to majority of events in this country. now the tennessee attorney general and other agencies investigating, taylor swift gets things done and has power as an artist with so many fans. >> shannon: she may make a
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difference. ticketmaster had a long statement and said the biggest venues and artists turn to us because we have the leadingic itteting technology in the world, that doesn't mean it is perfect. >> are they the only game in town? >> ticketmaster is saying, shake it off. >> shannon: he did not. >> that is not going to work with the tennessee attorney general, republicans, where democrats are starting to wonder about ticketmaster monopoly, that is the big problem, ticketmaster has monopoly. if i want to buy a nationals ticket or sporting event, there is a lot of choices, but there is not a lot of choices and it goes through one ticket broker, that is the issue congressional reg laters lookal. >> shannon: the venues say they have to play this game or there are concerns that live nation and ticketmaster are so giant, they will put together their own
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venues and route things to other places. you mention democrats, number of them wrote a letter saying overwhelming evidence that the merger between the largest concert promoter and largest ticket provider trainingeled the live entertainment marketplace. guy, we know there was an anti-trust investigation before t-swift that was ongoing, sounds like a push for possible change. >> here is the news hook, this accelerates any investigation that might have been underway, this is a massive story, we're talking about taylor swift on fox news sunday, that doesn't usually break through this sort of way. thinking about this panel today and our topics, i have been actually quite nervous about what i was going to say about this because swifties are ferocious and i want to say i'm
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thi have to say. back to you. >> shannon: jeff, i can see taylor swift making head roads on something that has been complained about by a lot of people and see the c-span bringing her on capitol hill, we think security is bad now, if she comes here and has something to say, lawmakers will listen to her. >> absolutely, to bring it all to politics issue midterm election shows how divided this country is, they are not divided about taylor swift, we all knew someone was trying to buy tickets for days for their children or themselves and struggled anden this you see reports about some tickets going for tens of thousands of dollars, that is not something you find support from from either party. you are right, if they pursue this and anti-trust policy is huge, there could are hearings up here and could be bringing popular person involved and see
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what kind of change she can make. >> shannon: it can be a wonky, dry issue, this brings it to light. thank you, panel. in two years since president biden took office, fewer reporters have gone more rounds with him than our own peter doocy, peter will join us to discuss their exchanges. >> when you said it would trigger a response in kind? >> trigger a significant response. >> what does that mean? >> president biden: i will not tell you, why would i tell you, don't be silly. >> the world wants to know. one back,one back. the winter play was really coming together. until disaster struck. ♪ tensions were high. luckily, replacement costumes were shipped with fedex.
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>> shannon: he is one reporter who has most sparkedire of the white house in the biden era, fox's peter doocy makes headlines and picked up the phone for private calls from the president himself. peter doocy just back from the president's trip, joins us. good to see you. you have memories for us and there is one that gets a lot of attention and i think of when the president might have had something to say about you that sparked a phone call, put it that way. >> peter: big part of our strategy with this administration, they almost never leak to anybody about anything, our only chance to get
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information about any topic is either at a formal presidential event, a press conference with the press secretary or just prepared remarks and shouting something. i always try to ask something off topic, january of this year, big topic was ukraine, everybody is yelling about it, i tried something else, inflation. this is what happened. >> peter: question about -- >> thank you. [indiscernible] >> president biden: that's a great asset, more inflation. what a stupid -- >> shannon: we had to bleep it there. >> peter: we don't ever hear a biden bleeped, any president bleeped, that became the story, the bad word. a few months later he went on to say inflation is number one domestic priority. >> shannon: you were ahead of
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the curve. >> peter: just because we were asking something different, that is what we do at fox news channel. >> shannon: did you get a call from the president? >> peter: i did, we laughed about it. >> shannon: everything is good? >> peter: yes. >> shannon: sometimes the president asks you questions. >> peter: that is a different dynamic, the foreign policy issue was the afghanistan withdrawal, widely panned still and on the worst day of his presidency, i had a chance to ask him if he bears responsibility, he had been saying the buck stops with him and trying to ask about his policy that led up to this deadly day where 13 u.s. servicemembers were killed, he doesn't want to talk about that, he wanted to talk about trump's, right here. >> president biden: i'm askings you a question -- wait a minute, i'm asking you a question, is that accurate to best of your
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knowledge? [indiscernible] -- do you think that people have issue with pulling out of afghanistan and the way things happened? >> president biden: i think they have an issue that people are likely to get hurt. >> peter: he buried his head into his head to a notebook that only had bad news in it, it shows he is an emotional guy and that benefits people asking for an answer. we just need staffers to let us close enough to ping him. >> shannon: they don't like that, any staffer trying to protect the main guy, they are rushing you out of the room or him out of the room when he seems like he wants to engage, time is up. >> peter: my experience with him, 3-1/2 years going back to the campaign trail, i think
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about one of our first exchanges. story of the day about like bernie and warren having bigger crowds than him and he in the middle of a scrum pointed to me and said you're going to go after me no matter what, it is okay, i'm a big boy, i can handle it. when you look at the times he's engaged since, i think he was right. he can handle it, he enjoys having a chance to defend his own position. >> shannon: how was this trip? it looks agonizing when you are on the road, this time the commander-in-chief, what is it like? >> peter: kind of interesting, when stuff is going on, you see the president say something, there is nobody to text it home, everybody is asleep. >> shannon: right. >> peter: he had a press conference, emergency g-7 meeting, that is the reason we go, these things are tough to
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get to, two days there and two days back. glad to. >> shannon: a lot of days are traveling issue in the plane and adjusting to time zones, you have a lot of work to do. >> peter: yes, again, we have to go in case something happens like this incident in ukraine. >> shannon: i got to say, people don't know, you and i years and years ago shared an office. i would not have thought you would be chasing the president and traveling in air force one and being a headline maker and i'm sitting at fox news, little did we know. >> peter: nice way to look at it. >> shannon: i'm getting older, you are getting younger, thank you for joining us. have a great thanksgiving. that is it for you today, thank you for joining us, i'm shannon bream, blessed thanksgiving to all of you watching today, we'll see you next fox news sunday.
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