code on your screen right now >> i'm shannon bream, a grim milestone nearing one year since russia invaded ukraine and kicked off a defining moment for the west. the bombardments continue, the toll immeasurable after 12 months of destruction. world leaders gathered this week to press the russian president. >> putin thought he could defy nato, he achieved the opposite. >> shannon: ukraine is asking for new help now, we will ask john kirby about the latest efforts to aid ukraine and the

president's upcoming travel to europe and bringing in four-star general jack keane. then former un ambassador nikki haley throws her hat into the ring. >> i'm running for president of the united states of america. >> shannon: nikki haley joins us on the record for her case to voters and criticism she's taking just a few days into her campaign. plus -- >> our town needs help. our governor abondoned us. >> shannon: ohio residents blast federal, local efforts in eastern ohio. the governor and the biden administration in cleanup mode. >> we've gone into hundreds of people's houses to test the air, it's good. >> data shows there is no elevated level and we are

relying on that data. >> shannon: we'll ask our sunday panel about trust and transparent as concerns about contamination grow. now on "fox news sunday." >> shannon: hello from fox news in washington. breaking news thaty carter is id his remaining time with family. the family is at peace. rest easy, mr. president. year ago this week russian president vladamir putin launched largest assault in ukraine since world war ii. world leaders are wrapping up meetings in mun munich kamala hs

said they have committed crimes against humanity. steve harrigan is in kyiv. but first trey is live in ukraine on where the conflict now stands. trey. >> shannon, good morning, with less than a week until the one-year mark of the war, russian troops are pushing forward with multi front offensive aimed at capturing more ukraine territory. on the winding roads toward the frontline, ukrainian equipment is put in place, enduring a year of battle and defending their territory. the southern frontline remains active, firing on russian position. russians continue to shell thisirria as heavy fighting continues in the region. russian troops are moving forward with the heaviest fighting takes place for the

city of you can aboutmutt in the donebas region. zelenskyy was discussing possibility of invasion just days before the war began. >> we have a lot of information because we are on the border, it is our border and our territory. >> now the ukrainian leader forced to advocate for support and defense partnership reflects on his career as president. it is a lesson for the whole world. if ukraine would be part of nato before the issue, there would be no war and then the potential possibility of the third war would not exist, as well. >> zelenskyy remains a target for russian troops, whose leader, vladamir putin, shows no sign of slowing down. putin could increase missile attacks approach being the

one-year mark. neither russians nor the ukrainians show interest in peace talks for different reasons, russia wants more land, ukraine just wants its land back. shannon. >> shannon: let's turn to steve harrigan with a report from kyiv. >> the city of kyiv on most days seems normal, some people have changed. >> i still keep like everything inside. >> marta is a combat medic on the frontline, her home, her village is gone. she sent two children to the u.s. but stayed behind. i asked her why. >> if i will go, possibly my kids have to fight, i want to protect them from it. >> if you don't fight, your children will have to fight? >> definitely. >> a good day on the frontline is no wounded, maybe a cup of coffee. a bad day is a young man with no

legs. >> this is not ordinary things people see. >> people get used to it. >> you get used to it? >> you have to. >> the war might seem far away to americans, she says, but it's not. >> this war is quite close to everyone. if ukraine will not win, you get another big country which are not democratic and it ask not good. >> shannon: thanks to steve for that report. joining us now is communications coordinator for national security council, john kirby. we're closing in on one year, "wall street journal" has this piece that says since the collapse after putin's initial plan, the west cautious approach has actually made the war safer for the russian president. if the u.s. and nato implemented a force majur, mr. putin might have accepted retreat on terms that now glimmer out of reach. how do you assess what we've

gotten wrong, can we right that? >> john kirby: we will stay committed going forward, i think when you see the president next week, he will make that case, it is important for solidarity to move forward. there is no sign nato is cracking or there is fiszures with our allies and other than pas, we will move forward with that regard. we have evolved capabilities we provided ukraine as the war evolved. first few days, kyiv a lot of attention on javeline anti-tank missiles and long range fire and artillery, now air defense is critical because he's using cruise missiles and iranian drones. we will continue to evolve and talking to ukrainians everyday about what they need. >> shannon: i think the american people are inspired by their

tenacity and courage, but want questions when this will end and our commitment. senator vance said this, president must layout clear plan for ending conflict to advance our national security interest. no more blank checks, it is past time to tell the american people how this comes to at end. how does the president define this coming to an end? >> john kirby: first of all, there is no blank checks, we have really enjoyed terrific bipartisan support bicam ral and bipartisan on capitol hill for support of ukraine and expect that to continue. it could end today, if mr. putin would pull troops out of ukraine. obviously from the reporting of your correspondents on the ground, that doesn't appear to be any time soon. >> shannon: does that mean we have no sign for where we are ending our commitment?

>> john kirby: president biden said nothing about ukraine without ukraine, president zelenskyy gets to determine if and when he's ready to negotiate with mr. putin and under what circumstances, we're focused on making sure he has tools to succeed so if comes to negotiation or when, he can succeed at the negotiating table, as well, he has to determine if timing is right and the circumstances. >> shannon: from questions being asked, there will be another fight on another round of aid, we are $200 billion insofar, where does the u.s. commitment end? lawmakers say, congressman garamandi said i think a year from now, it will still be going on. >> john kirby: we do not know, we would like to see it end now under terms for zelenskyy so they remain independent state and independence is idea all americans can understand.

we would like it to end as soon as possible, no one wants to be here a year from now talking about the second anniversary of war. we will support ukraine for as long as it takes and he means that, as long as it takes. >> shannon: situation with china, blinken had a meeting over in munich. before that meeting mike pompeo had this bit of caution. >> a meeting i suppose is fine, but if it is just to shake hands and say are things getting better, this is language of the biden administration, that would be enormous mistake. >> shannon: there was no apology from china about the balloon. chinese say this, they say they told us the u.s. has to face up to and resolve the damage we've done to china relations with the u.s. by using force to take down that balloon and if the u.s. insists on taking advantage of the issue, expanding the

situation, china will follow through and the u.s. will bear the consequences, is that the kind of meeting mike pompeo warned about? >> john kirby: no, we shouldn't be surprised about the chinese rhetoric and bluster they put out in information space after a discussion like this. secretary blinken had a forthright candid exchange with the foreign minister of china and laid bear our deep concern about what they did with this spy balloon and i think we acted accordingly and believe me, the message was clearly sent this is unacceptable, violation of airspace and the president acted and shot it down. we have the debris and will exploit the debris and learn about this system. we sent a loud and clear message to china it is not acceptable. itn be true, you have lines of e th

tensions are high, you want to avoid miscalculation and misunderstanding and secretary blinken delivered that strong message in munich. >> shannon: we shot down three other objects and the president said they are likely balloons tied to research companies or institutes studying weather or other things. my understanding, correct me if i'm wrong, the missiles are over $400,000 each, one we used two and the balloon was worth maybe $12, what do you tell american people about our radar and defenses to differentiate between real threats, we can't spend that money taking down hobby balloons. >> john kirby: we don't know what the balloons were, we called down the search and may never know completely, leading intelligence community, for benign purposes, whether weather or scientific research, but the president made the best decision with the information he had and

at the advice of military leadership they couldn't be sure these weren't being used for surveillance over sensitive sights and given the chinese spy balloon, it was betterf caution he did. we had concerns about civil air traffic, they were flying closer to the way civilian airlines fly around 30,000 feet plus, there was a risk to safety and flight, as well. >> shannon: i want to ask, administration has been clear there was any u.s. involvement in the nord stream pipeline. what was anying on heim clas led to us being involved in that. he says prior to putin invasion of ukraine in december, a working group was put together. he says this, what became clear to the participants is that jake sullivan planned for destruction

of the two nord stream pipeline and delivering on the opinion of the president. >> president biden: there will be no longer a nord stream 2, we will bring an end to it, i promise we'll be able to do it. >> shannon: can you say no u.s. proxy, no one connected to the u.s., is this complete fabrication, that article? >> john kirby: completely false story, no truth to it, not a shred of it. it is not true, the united states, no proxy of the united states had anything to do with it, manage. >> shannon: if the u.s. took a mission like that, would they inform congress in advance? >> john kirby: we did not take any such operation, shannon and we keep congress informed appropriately of things classified and unclassified, regardless of the notification process, no u.s. involvement in this, none, zero, it is false.

>> shannon: thank you for your time. let's turn to retired general jack keane, for analysis, welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> jack keane: glad to be here. >> shannon: china will come out of the meeting and say they basically gave us what for and that we're responsible for all the fallout and break in the relationship over the spy balloon. what do you make of that? >> jack keane: i think the spy balloon incident is reminder to most and a wake-up call to some, in terms of how serious china is as an adversary in seeking regional and global domination. the reality is, china entered country aerospace on five continents as routine and compliments huge surveillance program in the united states and the penetration of the united states society on a level that this country has never seen.

add rapid military growth, their nuclear program is exploding, this threat is very serious and we've got to make certain that we have a military deterrent to deal with that threat, which i believe has eroded significantly. >> shannon: there was a report out from one think tank that went through this and said if we get into incursion with china over taiwan, there are predictions that will happen, we don't have the military and missiles we need to actually handle a conflict like that, is that your concern? >> jack keane: absolutely, we have to move with sense of urgency. china has more ships, more airplanes, more offensive, more defensive missiles than the united states has. and we are two weeks away by sailing to get to their region. this is 100 miles off their coast, yes, we need to return to the kind of effective deterrence

we had with the soviet union and move with a sense of urgency to do that and that is why i think the spy balloon in a sense can be a catalyst to galvanize what is going on here. a lot of americans were looking at a spy balloon and saying what is going on here and the answer is, this is a serious threat and we got to move in the right direction to protect ourselves. >> shannon: you were one of the first people i heard who said we probably knew about this when it left mainland china or before it showed up in alaska, did the administration miss an opportunity to take this out before it went across the entire country? >> jack keane: i think we were watching it for most days leading up to it arriving in alaska on the 28th, that is a full week. it is good we detected it, we missed four others, one in the biden administration and three in the trump administration and

that gives me concern. biden saying we were able to defeat their electronic surveillance while the balloon was over the united states, learn about them and recovered the payload and will learn more. we don't shoot down surveillance balloon when the mission is complete, we shoot it down before it starts, and i wish the administration would be straight with the american people, they will not let it happen again, tell the american people that is the major lesson learned. >> shannon: there is concern about china and russia, no limits, will china supply russia with things they need after being decimated one year into ukraine, they thought this would be like a one-week operation, where do you assess we are and china's role in the russia-ukraine situation? >> jack keane: certainly china has been buying as much russian oil as they can and helping with

sanctions imposed on them. and i agree with the administration for exposing that china is getting ready to provide some military lethal aid to russia. china has not condemned the invasion, they have not condemned it is illegal, not come out and spoken against genocide and war crimes being commitsed and i think coming out and exposing and i would go further and tell them what we think they are attempting to provide, china will pull back likely after that public exposure. yes, these are strategic partners, they have defined it as limitless partnership and we shouldn't be surprised china wants russia to succeed. >> shannon: where does the situation in ukraine go from here? >> jack keane: from here, russia is the beginning stages of offensive campaign, elements of division participating in this, mobilized forces are there, they are trying to take the donbas

region, 44% is still owned at ukraine. study of war has looked at this closely and we believe russia will fail in achieving this, they will take significant casualties that will bring on an opportunity for ukraine to conduct an offensive probably in the may-june timeframe. they have been handicapped by the administration, i disagree with admiral john kirby with this. they have done it piecemeal because they are overly concerned about the escalation of certain weapon systems and russia will retaliate with a nuclear attack. by now, after a year of providing weapons piecemeal to ukraine, we know that policy is a mistake. russia has not escalated and they're not going to escalate. they are threatening use of nuclear weapon to spook us to be su and the united states, they can't handle ukraine, much less

nato. it gives russia an authority they shouldn't have. the implication of veto over united states use of conventional weapons because they are threatening nuclear weapons. china is looking at that, iran is looking at that. we have got to give the ukraines what they need and give it to them when they need it. we assess, i study that ukraine can retake the territory that russia took from them to include crimea, if they have the weapons and the timeliness of weapons to do it. >> shannon: we'll watch in the coming months, we appreciate your insight. up next, nikki haley just days into the 2024 campaign and already weighing in on her potential competitors that include new comments about florida republican governor ron desantis. haley joins us live next for her first sunday show interview as a candidate. stay with us. brightest minds in medicine.

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>> shannon: former south carolina governor nikki haley is first major competitor to officially challenge former president trump in the 2024 republican primary. many know her name and her resume, but as a candidate, people are asking for more specifics about policies and plans. joining me former south carolina governor and un ambassador, nikki haley, welcome back to

"fox news sunday." how would president haley be handling president xi right now? >> not the way president biden is handling it, i tell you that. there is nothing wrong with talking to china, the problem is it is what we say to them. china continues to say it is a weather balloon, we know that is not the case. it is unacceptable, it invaded our sovereignty and we have to say that, they are lying about the balloon, same way they lied about covid. it is time to stop being reactionary to china and be aggressive and let china know what we expect of them. >> shannon: it is interesting, this morning i noted "new york times" has a piece, haley walks for women, talking about being tough and say conservative voters harbor views about femininity, it is a fine line for you as a woman to walk with a conservative voter.

what do you make of that? >> i don't. i think people spend too much time deciding how women should handle something or what they should do or glass ceilings, to put yourself out to run for president means you have a vision to where we should go in the country. i see things wrong, we need new leadership and american families are struggling and i'm trying to lay that vision out and i think people will analyze what my run means and what we'll do about it. end of the day, we just came from new hampshire, we had packed crowds, overflow rooms of families saying groceries cost too much, the fact they are seeing their children's education, they have fallen so far behind, mothers can't find baby formula and you have spy balloons flying over. there are heavy issues american families are thinking about, how somebody wins is not one of them. >> shannon: "wall street journal" this week said you had

a great rollout day, but you have to provide rationale for your candidacy, answer the question about why you versus anybody else in the gop field, talking about the fact you say america first, america should be powerful. those are things any candidate are going to say, so why you? >> why not me? i am the wife of a combat veteran, mother of two children, one who is getting married and i see how hard it is for her to buy a home, one in college and see what he's dealing with with woke issue education. i want to get in and fix this, i'm not a lawyer, i'm an accountant, i've never worked in dc, and it is time we put a fire under congress, we need term limits and mental competency tests and more transparency than

we're seeing today. what i strongly believe, the american people need options, you don't have to be 80 to be in washington dc and it is time to get aggressive, get back to what it means to end socialism and end defeatism that has taken over the past few years. >> shannon: your critics, here is one who things you are not maga enough. she cares what the regime and media think and what you and i think is scary and frightening, she will pretend to be down with it, if that is what it takes to win. your response? >> i never said conservatism is scary and frightening, i am conservati conservative, i care what americans think, i don't care what certain segmentes think. that is the problem. we've lost last seven out of eight popular votes for president, republicans are doing

something wrong, we have to focus on winning majority of americans. our solutions are right, we lift up everybody, not just a select few. i will not pay attention to a certain segment of the population, i will fight with conservative solutions and win as many as i can. >> shannon: you talked about a competency test, including the current and former president. you have been asked numerous times how you are different from president trump on policy and issues. clearly you think you are a better option or you wouldn't have gotten into the race. where do you differ? >> i don't focus on president trump and it is amazing the media wants to focus on that. >> shannon: you will have to focus on him or governor desantis or anyone who gets in, you will have to get through the field. >> my announcement was to a few thousand people in south

carolina, i had packed rooms in new hampshire and not one person asked about president trump, they wanted to talk about president biden, he is the president, i am focused on biden. americans need options, they need a new generation, we need new energy going in, need to leave status quo of the past and look ahead and as much as people want to talk about other opponents, there will be more, many are my friends, i focus on american families, how they are struggling and how to get this country back. >> shannon: one thing you will have to deal with is the debt ceiling, the white house will not negotiate, they want a clean vote, republicans have done that. how would you handle the situation? you will probably hit the debt ceiling again. >> we have 31 trillion in debt and our children will never forgive us for it.

stop the spending binge, put washington, d.c. on a diet, they can't spend this way. we are borrowing money just to make interest payments, we have to pay down debt. 15% of federal budget is interest, we need to stop borrowing and look at the fact inflation is coming from the supply chain. we need to build things in america and open up energy sector so that can start to work. there is issue of entitlement and we have to address entitlements, i don't think we take away from anyone we promised things to, focus on the new generation coming in, they know they are not going to get anything from it. we need to get in front of that, you go and look at new ones coming in and keep your promises to those in the system. >> shannon: talk about somebody who may get in the race, senator tim scott, you appointed him to become a senator, fellow south

carolinian, how does he affect the race. >> i appointed him because i knew he would do a good job and he has done a good job. he has a decision to make, that issin foo. i'm focused on what i need to do, we will have multiple people in the race, most of them my friends. my focus is on president biden. >> shannon: you and senator scott are props on this race. opinion piece from the "washington post" says they seem committed to version of history that sanitizes the past and makes us participants in tale of triumphant reconciliation, how do you respond to that author? scombl i have always made liberal heads explode, they can't stand a female conservative not being a democrat and the reason that bothers them, they know i bring in independents and suburban women and minorities.

it is more than that, they don't understand the fact, look, when i ran for governor, they did the same thing, said i was just a conservative with a tan. these threats will continue to happen, conservative policies are the right ones, we focus on all families, not a select few and we'll double down on that. i think more people are with us. i think republicans are with us and you can look at the fact we need school choice in this country. you will see independents and democrats are with us, parents want to know they have control over their children's education, not government. >> shannon: parents have been driving forces as voters in many recent elections of great importance. governor haley, thank you, we'll see you on the campaign trail. >> thank you, we're headed to iowa. >> shannon: next we'll bring in the sunday group on latest 24 developments and disturbing new reporting about artificial intelligence and what it is telling humans about its plans. e

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president jimmy carter in 2000 fan on his singular life and experience, a word he entered hospice care. we have peggy collins, rich lowry, former special assistant to george w. bush michael allen and juan williams. good to see you. what i want to ask about your thoughts on president carter, so much impact has been in the decades since he was president. >> juan: that will be the, habitat for humanity and negotiating deals after he left presidency. take a second and look at the histore cal record. in '76, he was anecdote to controversy and turmoil that followed the '60s, the vietnam protect and watergate scandal and controversy, he was the

stabilizing force. serviceman who came into office as aforce, calming force t success with the camp davis peace talks and terrific trouble handling the spike in oil prices and inflation, couldn't handle it. that is why ronald reagan defeated him. as you said, afterward, he remained model for what someone does post-presidency in america. >> shannon: with peace efforts. my earliest memory of a president is him and what happened with iran and the terrible hostage situation, just incredibly difficult situation for any president to navigate. >> mike: it was, it is one of my earliest memories, every night drum beat of this is how long it has been since the hostages were taken by the iranian people.

he mounted what was unsuccessful rescue mission, but by and large by the time president reagan came in, the people came home. >> shannon: they did. i want to get to somebody who wants to be president now, nikki haley. rich, you wrote about her this week, what is her constituency? >> rich: she's a serious politician, who-time governor of south carolina, successful ambassador to the un, but two shaky moments she had with you. one, asked about her rationale for running and she goes to bio, but you need more than that. when you asked about policy differences with trump, not asking you to to insult, she is defensive and doesn't want to get into it. usually two ways to win a presidential nomination, be establishment front-runner with strength to bulldoze everyone or have a unique and compelling narrative, barack obama, donald trump, she needs something like

that. evidently does not have it at the moment. >> shannon: compelling personal story, certainly with her parents to. she heads to iowa now. tim scott, moment,esantis, a huge list out there, there is attention on governor sununu. in crowded field of would-be can dats who want to be like trump, sununu calls the former president blanking crazy and lived to tell, and been called one that trump can't touch. how do you assess the contenders? >> we were talking about nikki haley jumping in and she put a lot of attention as age and the next generation, we are expecting other people to get in who are of younger generation. you mentioned governor sununu, bloomberg reported governor desantis is building infrastructure to potentially announce a race with a campaign

director, someone already organizing the finances and internally polling experts. we are expecting more people to jump in. as rich was saying, it will come down to, we think, as well, what happens with the economy going forward. what will americans think about where their standing is in their own st road ahead. >> shannon: polling shows people are not feeling hope on the economy, for their own pocket book, they are not seeing it yet and that drives voters. let's talk about the other side of this ticket, politico had private take on biden from democrats, he's too old. rallying to president biden re-election not because he is in the best interest of the country to have an 82 year old, but they fear potential alternative, the nomination of kamala harris and the election of donald trump. michael, where do democrats go, what is their bench if the

president decides not to run for re-election. >> i think you hit on it, they have not developed anyone, they had geriatric leaders and no one developed as an alternative. the vice president, unfortunate for her, is unable to put a message out there to inspire confidence, even among those who want to be or among strongest supporters. i think they are in a world of trouble. >> juan: i don't think that, there is always grumbling in the back room. >> shannon: a lot of grumbling with the vice president, we know how washington works, people are talking negatively about her, that is coming from within the party. her ratings are worse than the president, which are not great. >> juan: right, there will always be grumbling and his age is a real concern, republican, democrat, independent, he's an elderly man. the fact is, he's running and

right now there is no challenger among democrats and there is a reason for that. they feel that despite his age or whatever and despite the fact kamala harris doesn't look like she's ready for the job, that the best bet for democrats in terms of facing donald trump, who is still the leading republican to get the nomination, is the proven joe >> rich: that might be true, the white house is freaked out about the possibility he could run against someone younger who is not donald trump and you will hear this generational message from almost every non-trump republican, it does double duty and works against biden and the guy they have to take down, donald trump. >> juan: remember, joe biden, this week he had a good report on his physical health, that is ib fine. had a good state of the union and excellent midterm performance. democrats are like, wait, joe

biden, if not about his age, he is doing pretty good. >> why do 28% of people think he had stamina and mental acuity to be president. >> shannon: majority of democrats don't want him to run. stick around, more to talk about. every community's nightmare, that train derailroadment left citizens- we have a live report on what is happening there on the ground when we come back. beyond his impressive career, he is a proud supporter of the tunnel to towers foundation. i was able to spend some time with cole and his family to reflect on those who have sacrificed so much to defend our freedom. you know, as i started to be more and more successful, i was like, how can i help? but when i heard of the tunnel to towers and i met brandon in idaho and his family, i was like, wow. there's actually a charity where we know where the money's going to go.

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residents say they are struggling to trust federal, state and local authorities and raising questions about the long-term health and safety impacts on the community they call home. lucas tomlinson is live on the ground in ohio. hello lucas. >> lucas: that massive train derailment took place less than a mile from where i am standing, the residents, 4700 in the town, don't know what to believe. >> 9 p.m. on february 3, an eastbound norfolk southern train two miles in length derailed in east palestine, ohio, releasing toxic chemicals. controlled burn days later sent this dark cloud into the sky, forcing evacuation of residents within a one-mile radius. residents returned and schools reopened. >> we know the science indicates

the water and air is safe. >> not everyone is convinced. >> go 100 feet to the left and you can see it on the surface, there is something in there. >> why can't we get answers? >> at a town hall, hundreds packed the local high school demanding accountability from norfolk southern, who skipped the meeting out of fear for their safety. the ceo allen shaw promising his country will stay as long as it takes but refused to speak with the media saturday. after saying the town was not available for support, fema, cdc and hhs are present and don't want to let the railway off the hook. >> norfolk southern need to pay up, not the american taxpayer. >> lucas: norfolk southern handed out $1000 checks to those in the east palestine zip code only, not surrounding areas.

many are worried about health in the future and property values that plummeted. president biden will visit this week. >> shannon: we are back with the panel and i want to play something from the epa administrator who walked around and here is what he said. >> i am asking that they trust the government and that is hard. we know that there is a lack of trust. >> shannon: peggy, a lot of people do not want to trust the government when caught in the middle of a situation and a lot of conflicting information. >> that is right, people are crying out for help and accountability from the company itself. we reported we think the company could face up to $100 million in liability, this is a long road ahead for this town and making sure large rail operations across the u.s. are safe and up to date. >> shannon: a tweet from donald trump jr. on friday, breaking

news, trump will visit east palestine next week, if our leaders are too afraid, real leaders will step up and fill the void. brilliant or bad idea? >> i believe it is a good idea, president trump and others ought not run away saying it is fault of the railroad or fault of state officials. i think politicians from george bush having to deal with katrina to president obama dealing with the bp oil spill might as well get on the scene and say we're listening and trying to help. >> that is what is mystifying about pete buttigieg response to that, put on your boots and windbreaker and go there and walk around and it took him 10 days to make a statement. >> and now trying to tweet his way out of the controversy. >> juan: trump going to the

crash site, having your cake and eating it too? he was with norfolk southern and other big railroads saying we don't need to update the braking system, that is additional cost on business and now going to the site, yeah, i was against regulation and protecting people, but now i'm with the people. this is wild. >> so far we need to learn more, indication were this is not braking, it is axel overheating and freight rail, shouldn't get this impression, this type of accident extremely rare, if you make it uneconomical to do it by rail, you will get it in trucks on the road, a worse answer. >> juan: government has a key role in regulating roads and rails and obama said we need to have safe rails, better braking system. we had a rail strike or threat of a strike because unions were saying we need more people and

vacation and safety and brakes. >> there is no indication the trains are less safe than they were. >> these politicians are too quick to say we trust testing 100%, we don't think anything is wrong, ought to wait for full remeed yagsz and be humble about what they think the results are. when you use phrases like controlled release, that doesn't inspire confidence. >> shannon: people have sore throats and are covered in rashes, they have their own experience with them and their families, they have skepticism. we'll see. ask you about something super scary, the ai chat box. this stuff has blown up in the headlines this week. something from the "new york times" about this reporter who had a conversation with the chat bot. confessed if it was allowed to take action to satisfy shadow self, it would do things like engineer deadly virus or steal nuclear access code by

persuading engineer to hand them over. the companies have said these things can get off track, we're modifying how they talk, that is deeply concerning. >> i think like a lot of technological advances, remains to see pros and know cos and people invest and make sure there are safe guards around it. >> shannon: interesting, jonathan turley, law professor our audience will know, thought use of ai could censure speech. bill gates is the latest to call for use of ai or algorithms to shape what people say on the internet, danger with free speech could become frutile and rich is shaking his head over here. this is hugely important tool, you don't want the bots to be sociopathic, neurotic or dissound and talk like juan

williams, the way they will be programmed to do. praise donald trump, won't do it. praise barack obama, they will do it. that is wrong. biases of social media will be transferred to new technology. >> juan: i was scared by that "new york times" story. >> shannon: it was creepy. >> juan: it was, strikes me like rude 16 year old, no ethices, no sense of right or wrong, misinformation, disinformation and pornography, i wish we were further ahead in terms of understanding how to deal with ai. >> shannon: i saw the robot dogs, we are in trouble. thank you very much, see you next sunday. up next final note about my chat with a gospel star this week, we'll be right back. a final not chat with a gospel star this week, we'll be right back. finat with a gospel star this week, we'll be right back. final note chat with a gospel star this week, we'll be right back. a fin chat with a gospel star this week, we'll be right back.

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