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to join the race in days. >> we have an opportunity to right the ship. >> and others hinting they could be in, too. >> i have debated donald trump many times, just not with the cameras on. >> takes you beyond the headlines in what promises to be a big week. all right now on fox news sunday. >> in washington, breaking this morning, the president slamming republicans over stalled talks on the debt limit. the comments coming in a rare press conference, the president says republicans have to accept that there is no bipartisan deal if they stick only to what he deems their partisan terms. but speaker mccarthy says the president is letting left wing democrats call all the shot the. president is expected to talk directly with house speaker kevin mccarthy on the flight. with no break throughs the talks are down to the wire. the

president was asked whether he would consider going around the congress by invoking the 14t 14th amendment to avoid the u.s. defaulting on its bills. congress has 10 days left to get some kind of deal together. in a moment, we'll sit down with ted cruz for his reaction to the president's hard line comments. let's turn to peter doocey. does the president think he has authority to raise the debt limit, use the 14th amendment? >> yes, shannon we heard this evening here in hiroshima, he thinks he does. would you be blameless in a default situation? is. >> president biden: on the patriots based on what i have offered i would be blameless. on the politics of it no one will be blameless. by the way, that's one of the things that some are contemplating. i actually had -- well i gotta be careful here. i

think there are some maga republicans in the house who know the damage that it would do to the economy and because i am president, a president's responsible for everything, biden would take the blame and that's one way to make sure biden is not re-elected. >> so, that sound bite speaks to president biden's debt talks as extreme and unacceptable which means it's unclear who he thinks who should get the credit or the -- who should get credit for a deal or a default. we also do have his explanation about why he thinks that he could evoke the 14th amendment and go around congress right here. >> president biden: i'm looking at the 14th amendment as to whether or not we have the authority i think we have the authority, the question is, could it be done and evoke in

time that it could not, would not be appealed and as a consequence pass the date in question and still default on the debt. >> the g7 in japan, toward f-16 capabilities and tried to figure out how to work with china without letting china take advantage of the world's economies. he says he expects relations with xi to thaw soon and that comes after what he described as an incident earlier this year with a "silly balloon that carried 2 freight cars of spy equipment" he calls it silly now, remember he did order a fighter jet to shoot it down this winter. shannon. >> we have more questions after that press conference, we're glad you got yours in. safe travels home, peter, thank you. >> texas senator ted cruz welcome back to fox news sunday.

>> good morning shannon, good to be with you. >> you heard peter reporting, early late in japan, early here, one of the ideas, maga republicans will let the economy suffer serious damage, retake the blame and not get re-elected. that is a serious allegation to make against republicans. >> you know it is really unfortunate to see how joe biden is approaching this job. he is off in japan, he should be in washington d.c., he should be sitting down and working out a deal, working out a compromise. the house of representatives did its job weeks ago, it passed legislation raising the debt ceiling and it passed response i believe legislation to reign in the out of control spending. unfortunately, joe biden has handed his entire agenda over to the radical left, to the bernie

saners, he is willing to tank the economy because he is unwilling to give a penny in the trillions of spending that caused inflation, hurting americans all across the country. it's a blatantly unreasonable position, he nonetheless smiles and just blames the other side. >> well is it fair to, you know he raised eyebrows saying republicans would fall and damage, fair for you to say he is willing to tank the economy? >> yes. it is because there is one person on planet earth with the power to ensure that we don't have a default and you just played him a moment ago, his name is joseph edmond biden union. a responsible president would have said, understand and hear me now, the united states of america will never ever ever default on our debts, we will pay the interest of our debts. the president can say that. why couldn't he say that? is he can

say that because every month revenue from federal taxes exceeds the interest on the debt. could take default off the table. joe biden doesn't want to take default off the table, why because he wants to scare monger, scare people into saying, look at this bad thing that i am joe biden is going to happen, the only result is to leave $32 trillion in debt. do you know what's amazing, shannon, biden's position is way to the left of most democrats. showing 58% of democrats think that we should have reasonable deficit reduction as part of raising the debt ceiling and yet joe biden's position is, absolutely not. >> well, yeah. >> it's worth -- >> i was going to say that the accusation on both sides, both sides are controlled by the extremes of their party. you can say left. republicans will say it's the progressive, the squad, entertain work requirements, the

white house continues to say, we invited somebody from the white house to come on, they chose not to come on and talk about the debt ceiling today but did send us several memos, using language referring to you and your party as extreme. you have taken the economy hostage, fighting tooth and nail to prevent tax breaks for wealthiest of americans and biggest corporations. >> you know, you're right they use lots of angry rhetoric and call everyone else extreme. this is where truth and substance matter. the bill the house passed saves $4.8 trillion over the next 10 years, we owe $32 trillion. that's not trying to solve it all, but taking a reasonable step to solve it? the big thing it does is it reduces spending from current levels to what we were spending in december of 2022. in other words five months ago. and the biden white house says, these are draconian cuts, i will ask

you, shannon, in december of 2022, christmas time, did you think suddenly the federal government had withered away? just reducing it by -- to what it was five months ago and then allowing it to grow 1% a year results in those savings but the democrats are all in, they want to spend for example, on 87,000 new irs agents, they want the irs agents to harass the american people. joe biden says it's extreme not to give them this army of irs agents. joe biden wants to spend $30 billion that was appropriated for covid funds, declared the covid emergency over, but he wants a $30 billion slush fund that hadn't been spent. i think what the house has done is reasonable, biden and the democrats hate the most are work requirements for welfare. listen, i believe if you are an abled body man you ought to be working i think work requirements are one of the most

compassionate things you can do, they get people back into the work force, back providing for their family, and joe biden is threatening to veto the whole thing and default on the debt because he is so opposed to getting people back to work. >> i mean -- >> that is an extreme party. >> he voted for that, he did. there are the voices in the party who say it is cruel to take away thatle who need some,h court. today you heard whate peter doocy played i think we have the authority to use it, essentially the president is looking at something that would allow him to go around congress. somebody you disagree with, harvard law professor lawrence tribe said this, once congress has authorized the executive

branch to spend money directed where and how it is to be spent and appropriated the money there is no question given section 4 of the 14th amendment which says public debt has to be paid, the federal government must somehow pay in full to those whose promises have been made pursuant to the law. bernie sanders signed on to a letter this week, he said it's unambiguous the president has that power. you heard the president say it this morning, too. >> well, listen i think biden's position on the 14th amendment is legally frivolous, somebody who agreed was that with barack obama. and obama said no, you can't do this under the constitution, under the terms of the constitution. that's a provision that was put in place to say that we're going to pay our civil war debts. refers to the civil war that we had just fought in paying those war debts off. by the way, tribe's position doesn't hold water either. joe biden can ensure that we don't default on the

debt. he has ample authority to do that and to do that right now by saying we are going to pay the interest on the debt. what they want is not to pay the interest on the debt, what they want to do is they want to pay the $6 trillion in other government spending, and there is nothing in the 14t 14th amendment that gives them the power to do that. once they run out of money they have to obey what congress has appropriated and what has happened the position of the democrats for two months they wouldn't talk at all. now their position is that we can't cut any government spending reasonably. we have to let debt keep skyrockets. shannon, it's irresponsible, what we are doing to the next generations. to give you an order of magnitude. in 2017 total government spending was about $4 trillion. tax revenues were about $3.3 trillion. so, we had about $700 billion deficit. fast forward to today. total government spending has gone from $4 trillion to up to nearly

$7 trillion. what have tax revenues done, gone from $3.3 trillion to right about $5 trillion. so, we're taking in a lot more taxes but they can't keep up with the. and this proposal is very reasonable, it's what a >> okay. >> which is have some have now in the debt. i mean they voted for a lot of things, you voted multiple times to raise the debt ceiling under president trump, why is this different? >> well, it's different because the magnitude where the debt is massive. and what has happened in the last two years, you are right, during donald trump's presidency, republicans and democrats in a bipartisan way passed emergency covid relief that was very expensive. we are facing a pandemic, we had

politicians who had shut much of the country down, in that emergency we acted. what happened subsequently is you had joe biden and chuck schumer and nancy pelosi do a spending binge, all of that, that was predominantly hard partisan spending, trillions and trillions of dollars of hard democratic, 27,000 irs agents, i yet to find someone in texas who wanwants 87,000 new irs agents. harassing and targeting the political enemies of the -- these a,. >> bring more revenue, we know we hit a record level in fiscal year 2022 for revenue brought in. talking about that where it -- >> the more revenue, sure, the more revenue is going to be from the people they target, sadly

under this administration has proven to be their political enemies. >> it tends to be lower income people. quickly before you go, i want to ask you about, you have written to anheuser-busch, whether that amounted to wrongfully targeting alcohol advertising at young people. there has been some pushback. and there has been a warning from a lot of folks including the intelligence magazine, as republicans prepare for 2024 presidential campaign, the fact that one cannot win a gop primary without culture war addicts for winning the next general election. reuters reported peter teale is worried about focusing on things like transgenderism, abortion, what do you make about these warnings you are going to alienate donors and voters by focusing on these issues? >> listen i think number one

democrat parties on issues of culture has gone really extreme. this is a party that embraces medical transition, sex changes for children 9, 10-year-old children, medical surgeries, sterilizing kids, removing perfectly healthy body parts. i gotta say i think that is extreme. i think that's child abuse. no 8 year old has the maturity to make a decision to give up the ability to have children for the rest of his or her life. any adult that is doing that to an 8 year old is abusing that child. the democrats, i don't know why on these issues they've gotten so extreme. if you look at bud light, i can't think of a time when a company's gone more out of its way to alienate and irritate its customers. like they never meta bud light drinker. the letter i sent, concerned a different aspect of this which is the beer companies

operate under rules that prohibit their marketing to minors, joe campbell and all of that investigation, they are not allowed to market to minors, influencer who targets overwhelmingly young girls, teenage girls, if you look at dill answer mulvaney's tiktok and instagram you have things like dylan mulvaney saying i am a 6-year-old girl. dylan mulvaney shopping for barbies. days of girl hood. it's very directly targeted at individuals who are younger than 21 and for whom it is illegal to purchase beer and so what senator blackburn and i requested, that they investigate the, the beer institute investigate did anheuser-busch deliberately target children, do they have marketing documents that laid out, hey, if we can get kids starting to drink beer when they are 10, 12, 14 years old they

will be customers the rest of their lives, if they did they are violating the rules to the marketing of alcohol. >> all of america will want to know, so let us know about any response you get, senator cruz, we appreciate your time. >> thanks, shannon. >> up next, bringing ia leading democraticent biden to e to get their votes for some kin. your wyndham is waiting. ♪ when bucket lists need checking... points need redeeming... work trips need crushing... or anniversaries need... celebrating? no matter who you are, where you're going, or why. with 24 trusted brands by wyndham to choose from...

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the president took to the mics on the world stage, for a rare press conference and focused on ukraine and the u.s. announced what appears to be a major policy reversal. the u.s. will conduct training of pilots on aircraft including f-16th with a possibility of those jets getting knew ukraine, saying ukraine didn't need, zelenskyy himself met leaders. jack reid who leads the senate armed services committee, senate york welcome back to fox news sunday. >> good morning, shannon. pleasure to be here. for the graduation, i want to congratulate graduates all across the country. >> shannon: yes, we are grateful they work together with you and your team so we could have you with us. our thanks to the university. i want to start by playing something the president had to say this morning about relations with china and the u.s. >> president biden: number one,

you're right, we should have an open hotline. at the bali conference that's what president xi and i were going to do and meet on. then the silly balloon carrying two freight cars worth of spying equipment was flying over the united states. and it got shot down. and everything changed in terms of talking to one another. i think you are going to see that begin to thaw very shortly. >> shannon: so a lot to unpack, the president essentially said things are going to be better, communication wise with china, he is coming off g7 where the conversation and the message coming from that was supposed to be strength and unity against china. what do you make of what he said about where we stand, this relationship with china? >> well, we have demonstrated to china that the community islaw after world war ii. in the context of a nuclear power like china with

conflicting goals, we have to have a line of communication. it's something that we maintain throughout the cold war with the soviet union even at the height of the cold war. you want to be able to communicate in times of crisis., so, that's common sense and serves the military purpose, too, to communicate our intentions and to make sure that they don't misinterpret what we're doing and we don't misinterpret what they are doing. >> shannon: it sounds like that is going to reconnect soon. this announcement we are going to engage in training of ukrainian pilots on numbers of aircraft including f-16th and those may flow into the country from numerous sources potentially. the wall street journal editorial board says this, at last f-16th for ukraine, that's been the white house pattern, resist more advanced weapons, then finally provide them much later after more carnage. i mean people think about the tanks and other issues that were provided to ukraine

after some delay. what do you make of this criticism and many different quarters, how we equipped ukraine, sometimes it's been too little too late. >> well, first of all, you have to recognize that the administration and president biden in particular, put together a coalition of nato and most of the world to stand against unauthorized, expected that kind of action, diplomatically and economically imposing sanctions. then we began to give the ukrainians what they needed. in the first phase of the war they needed antitank weapons, javelins, stinger missiles, as they are organizing to conduct a counter offensive we provided them not only the equipment, the tanks, but also provided them the training so they can operate as a coordinated arms team. and now

the other issue is air defense and we've given them air defense like the patriot missile systems. we are at the point where their aircraft have been essentially worn out and we are going to replace them eventually with f-16th, probably from our nato allies but the pilots can be trained here. we have been trying to keep up with not only their demands but capacity and also the threats they are facing in the field. >> shannon: these questions, too, the american people polling shows wants to help ukrainians, inspired by their courage. putin is surprised real concerns, i mean we have years overdue orders to taiwan where they may be a real issue with china at some point yet the weaponry we need to provide taiwan and they paid for have not gotten there as we deplete supplies in ukraine and elsewhere, what are your concerns on that front?

>> i think the operations in ukraine demonstrated our industrial base is very strained. it was complicated of course by the pandemic. by a shortage of parts, pickly microchips and we took action to pass the chips bill. but our whole military base, munitions fmunitionsfactories, not as ress they have to be. so, we are starting the defense bill and through the administration's proposals to encourage defense spending and provide the resources we need to cope with not only the threat in the ukraine but potential threat with china. one of the things that congress did back in 2017 we created a fund for the submarine industrial base. we have been providing resources to rebuild our submarine industrial race since 2017, absorbed by the administration department of

defense. this is indeed a wakeup call to deal with an issue that has not been dealt with for a decade. >> shannon: okay, i want to make sure we can ask you the debt ceiling, you signed on to this letter with bernie sanders and others who told the white house, you should use the 14t 14th amendment, you heard what senator cruz said, it's not legally viable. secretary yellen, part of this administration said it's questionable at best, why are you supporting something that would go around your authority as a member of congress? >> well my authority as a member of congress is to preserve, protect the defend the constitution of the united states. this is the constitution of the united states. this is not just some sort of memo from the white house or from speaker mccarthy's office. this is a manufactured crisis. for three times president trump came to the congress and asked us to pass a unconditional debt ceiling increase. even after he had increased the debts of the

last tax cuts, we did that. we understood the risk of the economy, the risk of the american people, the risk default on our debt, the people in beijing will be very happy, they will stand up and point out how unreliable we are, and how reckless, et cetera. this is completely avoidable. all the speaker has to do is what democrats did. senator schumer, speaker pelosi, pass a clean debt ceiling and then sit down and negotiate a budget and put everything on the table there. otherwise, this is reckless and that's exactly what they are trying to do. and again, the best point to reference is the fact that under president trump, we understood the dangers. and we acted responsibly and reasonably. in 2019 trump said he could not imagine anyone ever using the debt ceiling as leverage in political

negotiations. >> shannon: yeah, we also remember that back in 2006 then senator biden said he wouldn't vote for it because it was reckless and irresponsible the spending that had been incurred and encouraged it. diane feinstein your colleague is back on capitol hill. a lot of celebrations about that. she admits her doctor wants her under a lighter workload, seeing she has some confusion. and there are questions now from democrats as well about whether she should be there. congresswoman katy porter is trying to replace feinstein. >> unfortunately not the first time we've had this situation where we have a real concerns about how senators are recovering and whether they are able to come back and really do the job. we had senator fetterman who was in the hospital a couple months. what do you do when someone becomes infirmed.

>> shannon: senator what do you say to those critics simply because they would vote your way if they maybe struggling with physical or mental issues? >> well i think senator feinstein performed remarkably at her career. she still is able to summon the energy and the concentration to come to vote. she is continuing to work. i think she deserves the opportunity to make a decision about her career. i had the opportunity to serve with strong thurman who was 100 years old when he retired and some people back then who were saying he should go. but not with the same kind of intensity today. again i think this is something that senator feinstein should consider and make a decision. >> shannon: have a wonderful graduation ceremony. >> thank you, shannon.

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would say is the boldest and most far-reaching agenda that we've seen in the modern historo accomplish, there is something in there for anybody. in terms of the issues that we tackled. >> shannon: florida governor ron desantis it his record at home. washington d.c. bureau chief susan page. political analyst, juan williams. president of the heritage foundation and media buzz here on fox news, howard kurtz. this is the editorial board on his legislative record, saying there is no denying mr. desantis gets things done. susan, that is what he has been arguing in iowa and new hampshire, he keeps going back to, part of it he has gop super majorities in florida, still he

worked with them and got his agenda through. >> he won reelection by almost 20 points in a big state, a state historically has had also democratic voters. so, that is a really impressive reelection. he has gotten big things done that will get him in trouble if he gets to a general election. i think that is the challenge he faces. he needs to take on trump in the primaries and win there. if he succeeds in doing that he will have to deal in a more nice edge way with some of the things he has done in florida. >> shannon: as somebody gets in, everybody focuses why they think they would be a great candidate. have you to start interacting with them can be different, we saw pieces this week, they were not so kind to the governor and also his wife. >> yes, the knives are out and a lot of journalists are looking desantis maybe they are taking a break from beating up on donald trump. we know what the

governor's pitch is to donors, donald trump he says can't win general election, it's me or president biden. now he's got high favorables in those early states, iowa, new hampshire, south carolina. i said this for months he immediate a miss to be mistake not punching back when donald trump was roughing him and defining him. in addition to that, the trump people text me and other journalists of course, every 2 minutes after every poll, trump is up by 30, those are national numbers and dismissed by the desantis camp. finally i think that ron desantis has tremendous potentials but a sizeable hole to dig out of. >> shannon: if you score well it can change the perception of momentum. now somebody else who is getting in this week, senator tim scott and listen, president trump's world did not waste time incoming after him. taking slice at everybody else in the process, saying this, tim

scott's entrance doesn't only need to have to have desantis, scott sees the things from young kin, christie and others, the path to second place is wide open. they smell desantis' blood in the water and no longer see him a obstacle. now they go out after everybody else who is hoping for number 2. >> news flash, the race is wide open, it hadn't begun yet. family plots and leaders senator scott about desantis, look iowa is aid open 75, 80% of the caucus goers are looking for someone other than president trump. senator scott or governor desantis, i am expecting this is going to be a wide open race, in 2007 if you looked at polls

are you rudy guiliani. >> shannon: there is somebody who said thus far, they are not part of running and then have this ad out there. >> we can usher in a new era of american values. president ronald reagan changed lives. now it's our turn. a time -- >> shannon: now it's our turn. that is virginia governor glenn youngkin, juan, now is our time, what is going on there. >> what we are witnessing here is a new phase of the republican campaign. everybody has a sense that trump, you know, has substantial legal trouble, found liable in that sexual assault case. questions there suggest maybe being number 2 would be an interesting place to be, to be the option to donald trump. but the fact is that right now ron desantis is governor

desantis is in that spot. it means he is getting attacked by trump, attacked by everybody else because others are competing for that number 2 slot to donald trump. and the question becomes, who can find an effective way to attack donald trump. desantis could do it on things like immigration, covid. but so far he has not been attacking the former president. instead the former president has been attacking him. this week on the idea you were mentioning his legislative accomplishments with the former president said this is a guy backing a national sales tax, do you want that? s stance on abortion, his stance on guns, and it creates the kind of problem that susan was talking about earlier going towards a general election. >> more republicans get in the race the more they are dividing the not trump vote and making it easier for trump to win the nomination. >> shannon: i mean he does say things the gop has to get away

from the culture of losing and that is clear swipe at him. in new hampshire friday he was talking about legislature testifily getting policy things done, you can see that get undone by the next guy. that's what biden is doing. he is making this about what he has accomplished. >> no question about that. you know, what he is saying, i offer the trump policies without all the baggage that trump carried. and that is that is potentially a very powerful message, i have to say that desantis has had some problems out of the gate, sob problems in engaging retail politician the way scott is engaging. i guess i most agree with you when you say this race is at the beginning, not near the end. >> shannon: some people have said these cuts on desantis said he is not good with people are setting the expectation so low, people are pleasantly surprised. and new hampshire is a few week selfies

and shook hands, to me. >> it is going to work in his favor, having been with the governor many times, he is very good one on one. and the best evidence i can offer of that is when he stepped into jethro's barbecue it was a new race. people realized the dc media had been telling us this guy is boring. he is quite the opposite. they are saying this, that he's the governor who is implementing the trump agenda without the baggage. once again, my concern is just policy and ideas. we don't have a horse in the race at the heritage foundation, we are grateful whether it's governor desantis or someone else that they are going to exceed those expectations. you saw that out ever for the governor in new hampshire. >> he has become i think for the republican party, the great red hope. >> shannon: 19-point win doesn't hurt in florida. >> wait a minute. this week who punched him out? mickey mouse on the disney deal, right? all

of a sudden he thought oh, i can take out disney, a culture wars issue over gays and discussion of people who are trans sexual. do you know what, he lost a billion dollars investment in florida. >> shannon: there is more to that, apparently -- there are such things, disney reporters who cover disney which that's a great assignment, but right now it might be a little trickier. you can get tickets. what they said that this was a bob project he had wanted, they already delayed it, at least until 2026. but you know, howie it was a slap at desap tis. >> a lot of people are running it as a slap at desantis. the people that you're on the cover of time magazine and about to jump into the race within days. look, the things he has accomplished at home, more power to him. six week abortion ban may not play as well nationally

as in florida. in fact, donald trump has criticized on him, the >> mickey mous the governor,. >> shannon: critics say it's not a conservative position to go after. >> it's a very conservative position. eliminating special treatment that disney has gott mickey lost one-third o cai will speak on behalf of grassroots conservatives. there is a difference between corporatism and free market, that is where governor desantis. >> donald trump said he is anti-corps for going after corporations, involved in a fight that doesn't speak to the average american's concerned about kitchen table economic issues. >> shannon: kevin may differ. we'll leave it there, quick break. the policy wars on

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>> whole thing is predicated on, it's like a rabbit hole conspiracy. >> this is a predictable sad ending to an investigation that should never have taken place. >> what you have with john durham it's a big shot nothing. >> durha pathetic characteflavor of reaction aftee launched that full trump, russia investigation. we are back with the panel. howie, instantly begun to work sweeping away the shocking conclusions of the won't relay facts honestly, the media were complicit with the con. >> we are in parallel universes, because donald trump and many conservative media people see this durham report as a vindication of the former president and the fbi probe

should never have been started. most of the main stream media have been knocking down, so invested in the trump, russia collusion saga. it's hard -- and what they are saying it's a nothing burger, it's a waste of time, not one person went to jail hardly, the trial of the century. so, you have completely different, and it is certainly true that because journalists spend so many years covering this, i would say over covering this, over hyping this, they can't quite let it go. >> they won pulitzers. >> and it just seems to me it's like deja vu, it's never going to>> shannon: hearing one of the bites that this investigation should never have happened, it was about durham not the cross fire hurricane, kevin. >> that's right. >> shannon: you could use that bite either way. >> i would say regardless of what someone thinks about president trump politically, if you take a step back and look at

the fbi from a policy and ideas point of view, it's clear that it's become politically weaponized. ask mark hauck in pennsylvania. pro-life activist this week hounded by two fbi agents, ask anyone who is a reasonable conservative, you know this is an agency, i mean this intentionally as a policy objective, it needs to be started over from scratch and rebuilt. this is not a law enforcement agency. it's a political weapon. >> wait a second. >> i knew you might disagree with that. >> imagine if hillary clinton was sitting here, she said wasn't it the fbi who came at ten days before the election to restart an investigation publicly and damage possibly killed her 2016 campaign? i mean, the reality is howie was saying, there is no conviction. this had been extremely harolded by the right-wing and by donald

trump. right wing media include, saying this investigation is going to reveal that there was deep corruption in the fbi and potentially you could have people like hillary clinton going to jail. nothing. zero. >> shannon: what do you make of kinds of abandoning of policies and strictures that would have kept some of these things happening, about hillary clinton and investigations were not handled, the way they were for trump world. >> say first of all the h this conclusioe of the strictures may have been sloppily handled. how it was conducted. >> there were serious problems over this fib i investigation and but at the same time most of that had come out earlier, years ago and that's why a lot of journalists felt, well, this is

a rehash. >> it calls for is calls for no more prosecutions, no successful prosecutions as a result of this special council inquiry. i don't have a problem with the special inquiry itself, this is an issue that divides and concerns america, but then you have an obligation to read the report on its own, confirmation bias. you don't want confirmation bias, it's not explosive conclusion that president trump is telling us it is. the governor there said he made the decisive action, the most of any state, protecting private data and sensitive personal information from being harvested by the chinese communist party. says that is what is happening, they are taking this data in. you won't punish the users it's going to be providing the app so it can be used by montana.

>> especially a parent or grandparent causes anyone they love in their life to delete it on their phones. it's owned by the chinese, communist party. the greatest enemy in our history. it is decidedly destructive on the self worth, the value, the self value that young ladies feel. and just whether we are liberals or conservatives it's common sense. hats off to governor of montana. >> shannon: there is already a lawsuit by five plaintiffs who say they have no authority, it can't go about communications that it doesn'y the first amendment, susan. >> montana is leading edge on policy against china and tiktok. >> doesn't it sound a little

like something washington should be handling. >> shannon: they've had a lot of disagreement about how it's going to get done here. >> governor is going to have a hard time winning this. it's a free speectrue that basically ts aimed at apple and google who provide the software from their app stores. and i think, you know, i share the concerns about the chinese owned company, but i don't know that you can make the case that therefore nobody should be able to play with it on their phone. >> shannon: the case is literally in federal court. >> something i know you are concerned about i think this is going to look quaint, look like wow what were you worried about. there is american companies worrying me just as much with daughters about things like, you know, jealousy, envy, negative information, division, hate, conspiracy theories. we haven't -- washington to your point has not started to regulate our own

social media companies and ai we have no idea what tot that. >> shannon: quickly get your month, since we had the president at a press conference. >> i think the media pressure how he doesn't want to see talk to reports, staff shield from that. and i hope there will be more, even if he stumbles at least he is getting into the new cycle and getting his message out even if he trips over his words occasionally. >> shannon: well and peter doocy, said not over, got to his questions. the president is always willing to engage with him. we'll see you next sunday. this week's podcast, i will give you a hint, "new york times" best selling author whose spy novels are ripped straight from the headlines. we'll be right back.

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