memorial day weekend, the highest numbers of air travel passengers since any time before it sits before the pandemic, and it all went unusually smoothly. we're going to work hard to try to keep that up and push the airlines to keep that up as well. part of my conversation this week with transportation secretary pete buttigieg, speaking of summer travel. i'm flying out of town to spend some time with my family next week. so next week on this show, an encore presentation of our recent conversation with rock legend sammy hagar about his extraordinary success in music, business and philanthropy. it's one of our favorite shows we end this week with above los angeles , taking us above san francisco soon. >> shannon: i'm shannon bream. three candidate prepare to enter the republican race for the white house and in iowa, the gloves come off. ♪ >> i am going to counter pufrp

and fight back. >> i don't know if he will be number two, he is heading south rapidly. shannon bream the two front-runners trading shots and trying to sway voters, they join a massive roster of candidate hopefuls revving up ahead of next year's caucuses. >> they want to get this right, we have the best candidate to take out president biden in 2024. >> shannon: sit down with iowa governor kim reynolds chair of the governor association to discuss the influential role her state plays in the process. then default averted, with just days to spare, president biden signs a debt ceiling deal into law, now political fall out. blasting each other over green lighting a project backed by joe manchin. >> we are talking about taking people's land.

>> shannon: senator manchin will join us live, some republicans say the deal doesn't do enough for defense spending. we'll ask arkansas senator tom cotton about the impact of that compromise. plus, we'll get our sunday panel's deal to unpause student loan payments all right now on "fox news sunday." ♪ >> shannon: hello from fox news in washington. nearly every single republican presidential candidate descended on iowa hoping to build goodwill in the caucus state. ron desantis in first full week of campaigning aims to define himself and redine his biggest rival former president donald trump. mike pence, nikki haley and tim scott and many more in kicking off the summer campaign in iowa. we'll speak with the governor helping introduce them to iowans

as key player, iowa republican governor kim reynolds. first rich edson on how the candidates are jockeying for headlines. >> hello, iowa. >> rich: for republicans, it begins with governor kim reynolds's state, iowa is first contest in republican presidential nominating contest, caucuses are next year, gop candidates are campaigning in the state already. florida governor ron desantis launched his campaign tour in des moines tuesday and ripped chief rival and front-runner former president donald trump. >> we recognize a lot of voters will not vote for him, we have to accept that. >> trump courted iowa voters and intenseified criticism of desantis. >> you don't want him as president. >> rich: roast and ride fundraiser, mike pence is only one who joined joni ernst in the

ride portion, pence is announcing wednesday at a event in des moines. and trump skipped the fundraiser and congratulating kim jong-un. >> no one should be praising the dictator in north korea. >> others knock trump's post. >> i was surprised to see that, kim jong-un is murderous dictator. >> the former president achieved peace through strength. former un ambassador nikki haley said of kim jong-un, you don't congratulate a thug. we have to be serious about this race, that is not what we should be talking about. >> hallmark of american presidential politics, iowa, motorcycles and news correspondents who ride them and don't and go get barbecue.

>> shannon: rich edson from iowa. joining us now -- -- >> shannon, great to be with you, thanks for the opportunity. >> shannon: the des moines register notes president trump took a pass and said he so far avoided multi candidate events like these, iowans expect face time. senator joni ernst said it was lost opportunity for the president, did he make a mistake not showing up? >> i think it was a missed opportunity, we had thousand iowans at the state fair grounds to listen to the candidates vying to be president of the united states. what i loved was the energy in the room, number of iowans that showed up and stayed until the very end. they are listening, asking good questions, they are engaged. they know this election is really important and we have to get it right.

come to iowa, come often, talk to iowans, make your pitch and put our strongest foot forward in republican to be next president of the united states. >> shannon: you see the polls and are had the chatter, president trump with a commanding lead, what do you make of headlines that say this is a done deal, foregone conclusion, do you think iowa knowas are open to other candidates? we'll get a couple more this week. >> i really do, it is early. if you look back on the history of the caucuses, you see maybe who is ahead right now not necessarily the winner of the caucus. it is early. we don't have the first debate until august. caucus is not until early next year. we have the iowa state fair. we don't have the field settled, two morin kas announcing this week. i think iowa knons are taking tr

time and want to get it right. i see them showing up at eventing. we've had a lot of candidates in iowa already. i've attended eventing and each event they are filled with iowan and they are engaged. there is opportunity, come to iowa, make your pitch and get this election started in the right manner. >> shannon: there is debate whether iowa is good opening task for the country. democrats are debating and changing their schedule, you remain first for now for the gop that will stay that way. in the meantime, there are those who say it doesn't reflect america. our most recent polling shows what people are concerned about. inflation and higher prices, future of country and higher crime rate and political division. does that mirror what is going on in iowa? what are candidates are be

pressed on there, what do they care about? >> economy, inflation, high cost of living. our fiscal health is strong, reducing, taxes, providing educational freedom for iowans, we are different than what is happening nationally and that is why republican governors are showing stark contrast to what we see from the biden administration. safety and open border, cost of living, they want a president that will stand up for the american people that have the moral convictions to do the right thing, to respect the people that we serve, that will secure the southern border. that is what they're looking for in a president and somebody that will step in on day one and will really begin to undo just the devastation the biden administration has unleashed on this great country, somebody that understands what this country provides and the

opportunities that exist and reflect in their message and actions, that is what they're looking for. >> shannon: talk about the action you have taken. governor desantis officially in the race taken to saying iowa is florida of midwest or florida is the florida of the southeast. you have taken on priorities and your agenda has gotten passed. the school voucher issue, public money being used to let parents follow parents where they want to go. critics say this. iowans are opposed to vouchers because public money is for public schools and they do not want public schools to close. for families in rural area without access to private school, there is no new choice for them, it only means fewer opportunities for their kids. what do you say to parents and students? >> take a look at the election we just had, i won iowa by nearly 20 points and number one

priority with iowas with choice to make sure their child was in environment they could be best they could be. we worked two years on getting school choice across the finish line. candidates for school choice overwhelmingly won, the people of iowa won. i over whelmingly won, we passed school choice in first two weeks of the school session. we had aggressive schedule we launched. the first three days we had 10,500 iowa parents sign up to put their child to give their child that option. we also at the same time, provided flexibility for public schools, gave them flexibility to pay their teachers more to increase salaries. so we're, i believe educational freedom will elevate all of education and we will be better

off for it. they know that. that is what scares them more than anything. it will enhance education and make public and private better. it is one system. we're funding students, not a system and it will provide generational change and i'm excited about the future of our kids in this great state. >> shannon: debate over school choice is heated and will show up in elections. you will be joining red state governors sending national guardsmen and women to the border. human rights first is involved and say this about the governor. sends trooping to the border inspires xenophobic extremism. how do you respond to that and move things forward on issue of immigration and chaos at the border? >> it is humanitarian crisis at the border, drugs, cartels,

human trafficking, what children are being forced to do is unconscionable. this president has not done his job and governor abbott is asking for help and i'm proud 13 republican governors stood up to send troops and law enforcement to help governor abbott in securing the sovereignty of this great country. it is the right thing to do, i'm proud of republican governors for stepping up and filling in the gap this president has refused to do. he has constitutional duty to protect sovereignty of this country and he's failed. the impact it is having on each and every state doesn't stop at the border. increase of fentanyl pouring into the state and communities and killing our kids is unconscionable and it has to stop. if the president is not going to do his job, we will step up andic tathe lead and do what needs to be done until we can

get a republican president elected in 2024. >> shannon: we'll watch for deployments this summer and hope to see you at the state fair, if not before. thank you. bring in the panel for a deep dive. axios contributor josh kraushaar, marie harf, former chief of staff to mcconnell josh hols and vince coglianese. start with the back and forth between the two front-runners taking shots at each other this week. >> i had desanctimonious say we need eight years, don't vote for him. this country will be hopping in six months. >> the former president says he can slay the deep state in six months, you had four years, why didn't you slay it then. >> shannon: two josh's this week, josh h, they are going at each other this year. >> josh h.: they are.

you had delayed announcement of candidacy with desantis and everybody waiting with baited breath hoping he could answer some charges president trump and his campaign had been lobbying against desantis and now we saw it. it is back and forth. i think, look, the back drop to this in iowa provided ron desantis with visuals and discussion that lacked from his announcement. i think all of the rollout to the campaign left people wanting and you are beginning to see him add meat to the bone. i think this is a discussion that advantages him in many ways in gaugement over what did you do over the last four years and you saw him push it throughout the week. >> shannon: polls show the former president with lead in iowa and other places. this is headline from des moines register. trump says no way we lose iowa as he bashes ron desantis in des moines. we'll have to do bad things to

lose at this point, trump told supporters. is that how this plays out or does desantis have to do a lot of right things? >> desantis is approaching from a policy perspective, we heard earlier in the segment, him talking about how iowa is the florida of the midwest and vice versa. i think that is a nod to social policies in part of what is going on in iowa. iowa has contentious six-week abortion ban, which is what florida also has. what you will see desantis will run on i'm going to fight for goals that you are fighting for republicans in iowa. i'm doing it in florida and i think he could make up some big ground. here is the thing, though, nobody does retail politics like trump. nobody. that guy walks into a room and everybody thinks he is their best friend. ron desantis has a long way to catch up there, iowa is tactile and in your face, in-person

state and ron desantis will have to learn to have inter-personal skills. >> shannon: pollster tells donors, there is a myth, a memo went out, trump desantis is riskier choice possibility his poll numbers could change in the face of democratic attacks. trump doesn't face that risk. josh, the take is that all of desantis's talk or his supporters talk he would do better in general, they say internal polling shows a different story. >> trump is the known candidate, you love him or hate him and people know where they stand, those numbers are baked in. desantis has more room to show he is a good candidate, i think the retail politics are important showing he is doing grip and grinning in iowa and the roast and ride with joni ernst. >> shannon: eat corns at the

fair. >> you have to do that, it is important for governor desantis. we can talk about national polls all day, if you get someone like desantis who scores upset in iowa, that changes the political dynamic. trump not being there was a missed opportunity, he was confident about his assistanting that is how desantis could get an upset, appealing to the average voter. >> shannon: chris christie getting in this week, there is an interesting piece, he is holy undervalued executive talent, eight years in deep blue new jersey, he increased school funding, got charter schools and got through the super storm sandy. marie, is there room for others to get in? what lane exists for him? >> marie: not sure a lane exists for chris christie. he is a good debater, he took

marco rubio on and destroyed him on the debate stage, i don't think he will issue a contender. back to the ron desantis question and electability. problem with what vince was talking about, may help in iowa, they do not help in new hampshire and do not help in a general election. talk about the states, if he were to be a viable general election candidate against joe biden, look at pennsylvania, georgia, nevada. if you look at swing states he will need to win, those social policies are so extreme and a lot of republicans are looking for a reason to come home. post-trump, looking for a candidate they feel comfortable with and testing out ron desantis. i'm not sure his electability argument about winning will holdup when you look at extreme policies he's promoting and cultural issues he's promoting. >> shannon: we have rnc criteria for the august debate. we have a little bit, you have

to have national polling in three national polls. fundraising min fum of 40,000 unique donors per state or territory and 20 plus of those. debate pledge they have to sign on to, they will not participate in only rnc sanctioned debates and must support the gop nominee and be part of the rnc data sharing. with that criteria, everybody fighting about who will end up on stage, who does this help or hurt? >> the elephant in the room is donald trump and whether he will commit or not. it is smart, it accomplishes several things. one, they can control the debates, which is important. the donor criteria, does two things. it limits who is on the stage. you do not get a bunch of people on the republican party. two, it starts to fill this need in the low-dollar donor base,

you have to have donor acquisition in the donor party. democrats have more low-dollar donors than republicans. by making this criteria, they are dragging the whole republican state into a competitive state. >> shannon: not everybody loves it, including former goverasa hutchinson, he doesn't like it thinking it will keep some candidates from being on the debate stage and benefits these with extreme rhetoric and scare tactics. >> will we get trump or chris christie, who made his campaign or will announce next week, test of prous cuterial argument against donald trump in the republican primary, that is a big factor. if christie, who says he will not support trump in a general election, struggled and if he doesn't make it, we may not see

that big moment that could happen otherwise. i think it is more likely we'll get a small debate stage in the first debate. >> shannon: they have all summer. do not go far, we have more to discuss with you. it is official, the deb limit has the president signature. both sides are spinning the outcome, saying they got better half of the deal. up next, senators on what is in the bill for them and for you.

>> shannon: approval for a hotly cob tested gas pipeline many are

calling sucker punch from the white house. not all democrats are upset. joining me now democratic senator joe manchin of west virginia. welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> thank you, good to be with you, shannon. >> shannon: mountain valley pipeline is now part of the deal. yow democrat senator tim t outrageous giveaway. >> my colleague joe manchin thinks it is good for west virginia, forcing virginians to have to give up their land, congress shouldn't force them to do that. >> shannon: he says it will hurt constituents who have nothing but land. what is your response to those folks? >> this process has been going on for eight years and we've

shown we can't get anything built in a timely basis. you have to be energy secured to be the super power of the world. why would our carolina friends be forced po at a 10 times more than what west virginians pay? taking the land, most of the land was purchased years and years ago. it has gone through eight nepa reviews, we have not skipped anything. shannon, ferc, fy regulatory commission has to make a determination, if there is a need for the product. federal government grandholm said it is national interest because we need energy in the market. two billion cubic feet in a day and not another project in america could do it. we will finish it.

94% is already built out of 303 mouths, we only have 20 mouths to finish. it will be up and running by january of next year. >> shannon: there is debate who gets the credit for this? "wall street journal" says joe manchin said he voted in return for promise by president biden and leader schumer permitting reform to k4rd expedited approval of mountain valley pipeline. he got nothing. now republicans have come to his rescue by liberating from green perg tory, you're welcome, senator. that is what they say. how much credit do you give republicans for getting this across the finish line? >> thank you, big thank you for kevin mccarthy and his leadership team, republican colleagues in the senate, all of us. i've spear-headed this from day one and taken the spears and bullets, too. bottom line, people come to realize this administration under biden administration realize energy security is

needed in our country. we realize we had to help allies with more lng and this does that. republicans wanted permitting, it was political football last year. we took it out of that arena and good policy has come through and everyone, as they say when you win, it has many fathers. when you lose, it is an orphan. it's been an orphan and i've been taking care of that orphan until we become a winner and i'm appreciative everyone worked together. >> shannon: some republican fathers in there. congressman clyburn, one of president biden's biggest supporters said this, it is most incredible thing, i don't know if he is that lucky or skillful, it is working. is it lucky or skilled? >> if you look at both extremes, this is why i was so proud of seeing this process work. in the house, you had a

contentious situation, republicans have control, kevin mccarthy and his leadership team. they were able to navigate through their own caucus and get something out and send to the senate that got the white house engaged. as far as look at who voted against it, both extreme left, progressive left and right voted to default, they voted against it. democrats and republicans in the middle, centrists, we can't continue to let extremes be majority voice when it is majority voting in middle and moderate centrists that will make things happen. i was proud, i have not seen that before, hakeem jeffries and his team working to give 50/50 split and coming to senate and republicans and democrats working together, we should be proud of that. >> shannon: that is way we do things in washington, neither

side feels like 50/50, they will both argue that way. i have to ask about this, no label political group fund and organize in all 50 states to run a third party ticket. "new york times" says that has democrats worried they will re-elect president trump, at top of list is senator joe manchin iii, democrat who has been a headache to his party and could be crucial to his re-election. i ask you, you have not ruled it and taken off the table, is a third party run in the realm of possibilities? >> shannon, no labels has been moving and pushing hard centrist middle, making common sense decisions, people who expect us to do our job and not put political party ahead of our policy and country. that is happening tlchl is more noise and extremism from the far left and far right, pushing the

middle. if the middle push what we saw happen, that was middle pushing and basically a movement where no label will has been proposing for a long time. >> shannon: it sounds like what joe manchin says, too. >> it is always what i believe. i believe basically that is where you make the decisions, you listen to the left and right. make sure you leave nobody behind and listen to different persuasions they might have and concerns, when it comes, make common sense. we don't have a risk management evaluation for the united states financial situation. don't you think every citizen, every home does that, banks are required to do that. svb didn't have it and we saw it collapse there. can't we put a group together identifying risk before we come to default. >> shannon: is there a risk

management team assessing third party run? >> i think there is risk management team, you better have plan b. if plan a shows we are going to far reaches of both side, far left and far right and people do not want to go to the far left and far right, i think there is, you better have plan b available and ready to go. >> shannon: you are saying it could include joe manchin? >> i'm not saying who it is going to include or exclude, you better have plan b ready, that is what it will take for this country to remain super power and give confidence to people, reserve currency should be u.s. dollar and support for democracy should be u.s. government and defense department. we can do that. >> shannon: ruling it out, not ruling it out? >> not ruling anything in or out.

>> shannon: all right, senator, if you decide to announce plan b, do it on "fox news sunday." see you soon. >> i will come see you, shannon, okay. >> shannon: joining me from the other side of the aisle, republican senator tom cotton, welcome back to "fox news sunday." you have ruled out running for president this time. i will not ask about that. okay. the debt deal comes together, you are worried about defense spending and the "washington post" has this piece thats senate gop folks you ceded authority to argue about this. they had not been paying attention, negotiations began, mccarthy did not have protect the pentagon ethos as senate republicans, do you wish they had been more involved in negotiations? >> no, shannon, commend kevin mccarthy for overcoming president biden's irresponsible

stance no negotiation the at all. it was always going to be speaker mccarthy and president biden driving those. i and other senators stayed in touch and gave input on it. i'm pleased at reduction in spending or permitting and remember fos, i don't think we need to stay at post-pandemic levels, we could go back to pre-pandemic levels of spending. i'm worried about cuts to defense in this legislation. three different cuts issue the cut this year, 2 to 3% cut inflation. >> shannon: clarify that, there is more money there. >> only 3% more. in reality, you have actual cut. next year there is 1% increase, i don't think joe biden will get inflation to 1%, so you'll have

another cut and the way it sets up automatic spending cut across the board. if congress doesn't do work by september 30, domestic spending will go up. that means chuck schumer has incentive to ball up the appropriation process because democrats get more domestic spending and the pentagon takes a real cut. at time when dangers gathering with china, iran and russia, it is risky to impose cuts on the department of defense. >> shannon: i want to talk about this, i talked to someone involved with negotiations that said if people are worried about defense spending, go back and find waste and fraud in the pentagon. defense spending reaches record high as pentagon fails audit for the fifth time. waste, fraud and redundancy

issue. congress gives department of defense more money year after year. where do we go? if we think there is millions and possibly billions in the pentagon, is there money that could be helpful? >> there is opportunity for pentagon to reform the way it procures weapon systems, however, talking millions and billions in reform, talking about tens of billions in additional need to deter china, iran and russia. we've seen this in the trump era, secretaries found savings and save accident turned into procurement of ships and vehicles. it happens with bob gates, but barack obama double-crossed bob gates and took that money for domestic priorities. no question the pentagon can find savings, not to match and offset cuts in this bill or threats we face from china and

iran and russia. >> shannon: could you give democrats more domestic spending if there were way to get more defense for you? >> there is already been a lot of domestic spending increases, 3 trillion in new spending from democrats. defense, you mention absolute dollars going up, that is true face value. two points. first, it is falling in real dollars after you account for joe biden's inflation. second, compare what we spend on military to size of our economy, we are reaching record lows, falling to levels not seen since the clinton administration thinking there would be no more threats facing america. you see the military declining as portion of our economy and you see threats rising from china and iran and russia, i think it poses a grave danger for the nation's future. >> shannon: on china.

secretary of defense lloyd austin is in singapore, chinese counterparts do not want to meet with him now, incursions with jets and now in the taiwan straits, aggressive behavior. there is talks talking about lifting tariffs and saying we have to do better can communication with the two countries. how are we with that relationship? >> biden officials should stop chasing communist officials like teenagers, it projects weakness to china and encourages them to buzz our aircrafts and send spy balloons floating across america. reducing tariffs will send that same message. get back to this bill we just voted on, i think issel best way to deter china, iran and russia have military capable of deterring them.

core story o there were diplomatic decisions that led to are wa, disarmament by great britain and the united states encouraged german ambition and aggression. >> shannon: situation with north korea, public health minister elected to world health organization. president trump on social media congratulated kim jong-un on that. couple things. what does it say about who, north korea has a position on this executive board? should any american, including a former president, congratulate kim jong-un for anything? >> world health organization often elevate and allow dick torial regimes to make decisions on panels, not just who, it is china running the world or countries like syria or cuba or libya or north korea being on the united nations human rights

council, that is the problem with international organizations. i would not congratulate kim jong-un or any other diktorrial regimes, especially like the world health organization that have been harmful to american interests in the way they basically ran interference for investigation to the original of the chinese coronavirus. >> shannon: we appreciate your time, come back. >> thank you, shannon. >> shannon: major developments on student loans, if you have know wo, pay attention. lawmakers blocked plan to wipe out hundred says of billions in student loan debt. he says he will veto it, the supreme court is weighing in. what is means. laying out criteria how candidates can be in the first sunday debate. bring back information on the student loan debate and who they think can make the stage for the debates. ministries could save you up to 40% today.

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>> in this country, we don't believe the president of the united states can wipe away $500 million to trillion worth of student loan debt. >> shannon: that is eric eric schmitt on blocking the student loan forgiveness plan. back with the panel. this is where we are with student loans, you have the

pause that ends the pandemic pause, that is gone. also you have house and senate, they have vetoed loan forgiveness program the president is saying he will veto and wait for the supreme court to rule in. marie, even the president acted like, i don't think i can do this, i will try it. i have a feeling the court will tell him this has been in the court's hands for a while, we are awaiting that. no president has done more for student loan repayment and people struggling to pay student loans than president biden. they will tell you he is not beholden to the left. look at debt ceiling negotiation, it really upset parts of the left. they will say this was ending in august and should not be news for people advocating for this.

we were willing to make a deal. they will tell you that is why they think he is a great general election candidate and ahead of 2024 and we'll see what the court does. end of the day, a lot is in their hands right now in terms of student loan repayment. >> shannon: they could come back and split the baby or do something else, 45 million people have 1.6 trillion in student loan debt. even "washington post" had a piece that was cynical about the president doing this. >> house republicans are looking for illegal biden bribery that is what this is money from drivers to harvard law graduates to pay off debt. this is designed to target voters, they used it in the midterm and now caught up in the court system, i hope the supreme

court says no, the president can't cut checks to people to pay them to vote for him temperature is crazy we're here. congress is admitting that. >> the politics is interesting, in the senate you had democrats up for reelection, joe tester and joe manchin voting with the republicans, that shows where the politics are. joe biden has been supporting extension of student loan payments and going to be in election season and you are seeing biden move to the middle thchl is issue he has been more to the left. he's been more generous with spending and benefits and people who can't pay college defendant's exhibit. they think that is beneficial to them. >> shannon: the conversation turned from just helping people, we all have struggled and difficult time during the pandemic. when it turns to events taking money from truck drivers and

giving to people who went to harvard, that changes the conversation. >> totally. this is a political tool, geriatric democrats have used, hello, kids, i'm with you. this is not serious policy. to all of vince's points, it is not serious policy, it is population more likely to have higher income than people paying the tab for it. that changes politics, very much opposed to it and probably mute point after supreme court rightly finds this is nonsense deal from the beginning. >> shannon: if you are on pause during the pandemic, that is ending in august and waiting for forgiveness part, wait to see what the supreme court decides. artificial intelligence, a number of people are scared and hundreds issue including ai scientists who signed on saying

mitigating risk of extinction from ai should be global priority such as pandemics and nuclear war. vince, you talk to people everyday, are they worried about it? >> some people worry and job replacement is a thing worth being worried about. the government gets more powerful and people lose liberty, this debate is where censorship could find itself flying in under cover of this will destroy us and a lot of institutions will be dedicated to neutering accurate information to the public. >> shannon: employment issue, business insider says 4000 people laid off in made lost their job because of artificial intelligence, first time ai has been listed from challenger gray and christmas. marie, we were talking about the "washington post" that said chatgpt took jobs and now they

are walking dogs and fixing air conditioners. >> marie: when we have new technology, the job market changes, every time we have seen this throughout history, this is something we've been concerned about. to vince's point, grapple with this, i don't want 70 or 80-year-old senators regulating something they definitely don't understand. us who are tech savvy understand it a little bit. i think this is changing work force, president biden have talked about this, they created more jobs than any other president in this amount of time. >> shannon: a lot is rebrowning from covid. >> ai comes into the job creation conversation and government need to figure out how to work in this new world and it is scary. >> shannon: could the senators be replaced by ai senators?

>> senator bots. we are uncomfortable with the idea the new ai future is president biden, he will not understand how it works. it is white collar change. maybe first time since the industrial revolution those jobs had an impact. >> shannon: thank you, up next, an american veteran turning health battle into a plan to help wounded warriors caught in a bureaucratic nightmare. (vo) while you may not be running an architectural firm, tending hives of honeybees, and mentoring a teenager — your life is just as unique. your raymond james financial advisor gets to know you, your passions, and the way you help others. so you can live your life. that's life well planned.

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>> shannon: protecting and supporting our wounded warriors is critical part of the mission. there are complaints servicemembers face too much red tape over whether they can serve on active duty. it has to change. founder of arc of justice, calling for wounded warriors bill of rights. we sat down with him and a congresswoman hoping to get a bill through congress. >> this started as a personal battle for you to make sure

people injured or ill in the service, have a chance to recuperate and don't want to get kicked out, that happened to you. >> the military chain of command had authority. when defense agency came online, there was confewing fusion and there is a gap in authority and wounded warriors have been mismanaged. i have represented 75 clients, all pro bono, i believe there are hundreds more. >> this is a simple fix to what may be a complex problem imp impacting wounded warriors, really make sure chain of command involved in the decisions and make sure the warriors have due process. >> shannon: this was instituted to help people, some people are stuck in the bureaucracy and it is not helping. >> that is right, it ranges from

people who have been in for 19 years, boom, no 20-year vesting. we are losing future war fighters and our middle management, where i come in. this is not time to be mismanaging active duty woundad warriors. >> shannon: what are odds getting this through the house and senate and getting something done? >> we got momentum built and we are continuing to educate and raise awareness and addressing this issue for wounded warriors. for so many that have served and feel they are being ushered out of the military. we want them to feel like we will give them time to recoup and get healthy and continue to serve. >> shannon: what is best case scenario? >> best case scenario, we will

continue to build support, raise awareness, get more republicans and democrats in the house and senate to come on board with legislation with wounded warriors bill of rights and get it signed into law this year. >> shannon: how does that make it feel? the clock is over for you, you fought this for yourself and you realized many people are impacted and you decided to fight the fight for them. >> i took a vow, i don't want to get emotional. i realized in 2019, i was going to lose my fight. i went to my grandfather's grave and said, grandpa, i will never stop fighting until this bill is passed. >> shannon: we will track it and give updates. up next podcast guest grammy winning female artist with powerful voice in groundbreaking new album.

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