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parents thought that this was an opportunity for me to play in the states or go to college in the state. so just thank you. i love you, and it's been an amazing journey. thank you for joining us on this edition of sports focus. we look forward to putting the focus on your sport . next time cristina rendon. we'll see you next time. his innocence and lead in the polls as another former presidents sparks controversy as he weighs in on the 2024 field h. nation's first black president called out two presidential hopefuls how they talk about race in america. senator tim scott arguing back.
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"fox news sunday" sits down with senator scott. second trump indictment doing nothing to slow down his fight to win back the white house. >> we will win bigger and better. >> that is not helping his rivals including one outsider. >> first millennials ever to run. >> day quan swaummy says he can win and cut them down to size. >> when you have a bureaucracy so hardened you can't reform it top down. >> saummy joins me live and vow to pardon former president. chinese president shi as he
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cozies up. florida verses california rivalry between governors newson and desantis. now desantis is daring new sm to take on present biden in the democratic primary >> are you going to challenge joe or sit on the sidelines and chirp. all right now on "fox news sunday". >> hello for fox news in washington dynamics in republican primary have never been more complicated. former president trump has raised more money on the heels of and possibly because of an indictment. now 2024 rivals must balance the
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impossible and challenge him. they do not want to alienate his voters. you'll hear at length from two of them. tim scott says charges are serious and swaummy pledging to par pardon former president trum start with tim scott. welcome back. >> good morning, thanks for having me. >> you have been in the headlines because of president obama. >> i think there is a long history of african-american or other minority candidates within the represent can party who will validate americans saying everything is great. we can all make it. >> he says it is fair to be skeptical of candidates that
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don't -- you have had a hard time attesting you were a senator, do those experiences make president obama's >> absolutely not. no higher compliment than being attacked by president obama. here is what people need to know, truth of my life disproves lies of the radical left. you talk about addressing issue of poverty. my opportunity zones scene more than 50 billion dollars go into the poorest hardest hit communities, majority are minority. think about hbcu funding in his administration missed it. we took funding to the highest level in history of the country and shannon, we made it permanent. radical left and teacher's
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unions refuse to allow quality education in big blue cities. i support school choice because i support common sense. radical left and president obama failed, failed and failed. we will make it happen. under my administration we will make sure kids have quality education at every zip code. work on opportunity zones 2.0 to bring more resources, more opportunities and more jobs to the hardest hit areas weather it is rural iowa or inner city chicago. there is a way to elevate poverty by statistics themselves. that is what america should stand for. if anyone should be standing and shouting from the mountain tops, should be the man americans supported twice for nomination
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and becoming president. >> let's talk how you get to the scott nomination, present biden 53%. can you give me a policy where you are different and offering something better? >> certainly. one i way i will say as i continue to candidate in iowa, anchored in conservative values. my numbers continues to climb where i am campaigning. moved to third place in the polls in iowa and third place in new hampshire. i am the most conservative person in the race for president.
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>> >> are you saying it is different than what president trump is offering? >> voters offering to my message. enthusiasm continues. my polls and positions bringing manufacturing home. talking about we are amiss an economic cold war with china. having ability to secure our voters and stop 70,000 americans from using their lives, fentanyl. to stop six million from crossing our voters more importantly addressing failures of radical left and joe biden. our americans continues to flays crippling inflation 16% since taking office. as a guy raised in single family
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mom, when gas goes up this is as crisis. having lived on both sides of the proverbial track, my life row enforces in america any kid from anywhere at any time can rise beyond their circumstances because we as a nation continue to provide opportunities not based ton color of your skin by your character, your grit and your talent. >> you talk about this optimistic positive message. right now the move of the republican base is nothing but grievance. positive fighter like tim scott will have a problem reaching them in their heart. how do you convince voters who want a fighter what you offer can be just as effective? >> fighting is good. winning is better.
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we have lost seven out of the last eight presidential elections from popular vote. what we need is someone who stands on american values with the power of persuasion. americans today need to be persuaded not talking about red, blue, black and white. talking about the future not the past. i provide necessary incentive to bring people to the table to get the job done. let's go and get it done. >> you have said you think the doj indictment of president trump is serious issue, do you believe it is politically motivated you would restore integrity of doj, what would you do? >> first thing fire joe biden. fire merit garland and chris wright. we have to clean out the political appointments to
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restore confidence and integrity in the doj. today we want to know in our justice system, lady justice wears a blindfold. all americans will be treated fairly by lady justice. today this doj continues to hunt republicans while protecting democrats. it is not just a former president. pro-life activist, his home hin invaded by a swat team. this doj are called domestic terrorist and web upweaponizing. >> do you think the indictment is political in nature will you sign on to a pledge next guest is asking all to pardon. >> i am not going to deal with
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hypotheticals. every american is innocent until proven guilty. >> thanks, tim scott. >> 9:00 p.m. eastern fox new channel. another '24. swaummy, made surprising presidential bid calling himself an outsider. now diving head first into republican culture wars, time to rethink number of agencies, rom swaummy trails undisputed former president trump. focal defender of president trump joins us to discuss his campaign. welcome to "fox news sunday." good to see ya, shannon.
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>> you have talked about dismantling investigations. republicans risking for their own political fortunes. some fear both in defense of mr. trump could cause lasting damage, do you department of justice weaponizes people based on political viewpoints. i think helps build up trust to say it doesn't have to stay this way. under my watch we'll make sure
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fbi doesn't exist. you have local police. federal level -- when you have large bureaucracies that sit many between, formula for corruption. whether it was the fbi going after martin luther king jr. threatening to commit suicide 60 years, or going after former president trump that is not president. i would have a good time if president trump weren't in the race. this is about standing up for principles over politics. helps build trust in our institutions. >> both you and president have embraced american national iist you get it might turn off some voters. why embrace it? what does it mean? >> nationalism doesn't have to be a bad word.
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stand for unless that set this into nation. rule of law rule of law. free speech and open debate. self-governance. these are the ideals that won the nation. we are not a country founded on ethnicity or single language or monarch. we are a nation founded on a set of unless that brought together a divided group of people 250 years ago. i think those ideals can bring together divided number of people. i expect i can.
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he ramaswamy isn't running for president building an enormous mailing list. they think that is what you are about. >> that is laughable, shannon. i did not take a tin can and ask a bunch of donors for permission to run. i have put over 10 million dollars of my hard earned money and put it into the campaign. we make sacrifices. we are in the middle of a national identity crisis. if you ask most people my age and younger, what does it mean
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to be american you get a blank stare in response. too long we have been running from something. i am starting this race to run to something to speak the hard truths that others in the democratic party and republican party are afraid to speak out loud. there are two genders: god is real, fossil fuels are a requirement. last one got me censored on microsofted owned linkedin. it is going to take an outsider but a true outsider to get the job done. that was trump 2015. i am polling ahead of where trump was june 2015. debate stage crucial next step. i am confident we are going fo win in a landslide like reagan
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did in 1980. >> shannon: you talked about fbi earlier and with respect to agencies, "washington post" george writes, ramaswamy not encountered many problems believes a forcefully expressed vision can -- when he has lived longer he can live longer. president trump talked about how hard it is to quote drain the swamp. what makes you better equip? >> i have been a unique combination, somebody outsider and success in business, deep understanding of constitution and statutory authority. i am the presidential candidate best understanding of the legal basis to shut down administrative u.s. state. empowers u.s. president to set
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regulations setting rules of people that work in civil service departments of if there is one thing i can promise, january 2033 top thing domestically: three branches of government not four that will shut down the regulatory state. that is key to unlucking the economy itself. we are slated to grow less than 1% gdp. the administrative state pay ps people to stay home from work. i understand this deeply on cushional grounds. >> shannon: i will expect to cover these fights in the supreme court if you go that route. very quickly before we go, i wants to ask you about mark
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cuban's comment, you wrote "woke inc" he said it is good business and people are looking forward. >> businesses have a purpose provide products and services to customers to need them and make a profit unapologetically. not only is that often bad for business. look at what happened to bud light and target. bad for our civic culture. what we need is a p p political spaces baralack or white or democratic or republican. americans unite regardless of affiliation. woke capitalism is bad for american democracy. that is what i am takeing to the white house. >> we'll put you and mark cuban
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>> this is called election interference and rig and steal. it is a political persecution like something straight out of fascist and communist nation. >> shannon: president trump's take on the election. francesca chambers, elizabeth. for former chief of stack mike pence mark shorts and parker. welcome back. it is a popular line out here on the campaign trail, donald trump raised seven million dollars, vast majority of republicans.
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roiter's poll, he is not being hurt if anything politically, they help. >> desantis' view is it is a shoeing her high h. they are hopeful republicans are still supporting them. october, november other cases they'll be able to eventually pull numbers up. that is a lot from the gop field. >> shannon: busy summer. politico, trump faces four trooifls over a six-month span. october, two january, one in march. and possibly more indictments. elizabeth is one of my fellow attorneys. to manage one is a lot.
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takes a lot of energy. >> these are important issues he is facing. these aren't some small side trial. charges about violating espionage act and potential deal with attempting to overthrow democracy. indictments out of georgia, federal indictments actions on january 6th. what we are looking at here is a group of everyday americans and by that i mean the jury that indicted drufrp trump, jury that found him libel in new york h. groups of americans holding him accountable. to francesca's point as this continues and have everyday americans hold him accountable come to the fore perhaps than the prosecutors, then we might see a change in shift and attitudes.
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>> innocent until pruven guilty. they take injury and force rivals to come to his defense repeatedly. >> absolutely. i just thought of the interview you had with ramaswamy. it is strengthening trump's argument. it really gives him this momentum heading into the primary vote. >> more folks are talking about that, they are not talking about campaigns, rnc has one they want everyone to sign, former governor asa hutchinson is running. he says i am not going to vote for him meaning donald trump is he is a convicted felon. i am not going to vote for him. do you think everybody will sign
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on to the pledge. >> i think the one exception is donald trump. there hasn't been as much focus as it comes to that point. to mar ya's point, vivek pledge that guy has never seen a classified document in his life. when it comes to pardons, can italy, the pardons he gave to cocaine, traffickers, to people guilty. what would people do with power of pardon.
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i think if you look at donald trump's record it was indefensible, people getting $750,000 to lobbyist. it is a question to how you handle pardon of pardon. >> they always percent get as ton of heat for pardons that they do at the end of their term. >> trump is going to make clinton family blush. >> shannon: richard walters tells us candidate that are complaining should reassess if they should be running. is donald trump going to sign the pledge and show up. >> chris christie says you can sign the pledge there is not much you can dob. asa hutchinson's campaign hoping
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other candidates will force rnc to recant on the pledge particularly i convicted of crimes. you were not seeinr campaigns push as hard. >> shannon: panel, stay around. this note for our viewers, my colleague bret baier is going to sit down with the donald trump, wide ranging, race for the white house air 6:00 p.m. eastern special report with bret baier fox news channel monday. new reports u.s. and iran are going to try to negotiate. critics say dangerous disaster. white house says no deal. we are going to talk to general jack heed and ask him if it is a good idea. ♪ (vo) while you may not be running an architectural firm,
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spy balloon and amid reports china is joining ties with cuba off the u.s. coast. look at whether blinken can mend relations. hello lucas. >> first time in five years, u.s. secretary of state visited china. scrapped in early february giant chinese spy balloon flu across the united states. >> secretary of state antony blinken keeping it diplomatic in meetings with chinese officials. days and weeks before he got there, china saw procession of american chief executives including microsoft's gates, president shi telling gates you are the first american friend.
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present biden has not talked about to counter part and played down balloon as silly. >> i don't think the leadership knew what was in it and going on. >> more than the balloon shoot down raising security questions. chinese fighter jet buzzed a plane. ugs would not be bullied. white house also recently acknowledged china maintained spy base since 2019. present biden could meet chinese counter part at the end of the summer. >> shannon: happy father's day, thank you, lucas. joining us now required general jack keen.
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>> great to be here, shannon. >> shannon: let's start with secret secretary's visit. >> international stage after harassing ships and planes, breaking into military bases in alaska, spy balloon and spy base on our shores in cuba. at what point do you take a tough stand and put conditions on diplomacy. >> shannon: song of engagement leads to foreign engagement. should the secretary be there? >> i don't have problem with the secretary going there. we have to have discussions with our no. 1
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we are two economic and military super powers that is the reality of what we are dealing with. when we entered into diplomatic phases, take brief use administration. at the end of the day when hi spoke to senior advisers, you know, general, despite all the overages we make to china, nothing changed. their aggressive action at the expense of the united states in full motion nothing slowed down. we have to go into these discussions. at as minimum, let's make certain military people are talking to each other. in case there is a miscalculation, misinterpretation, that we can pick up the phone and talk to
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somebody oon the other end who we have some kind of a relationship with that person despite differences in our strategic and national goals. we have to come to the realization that it is our actions that are going make the difference with china, not our words. that is most significant. what am i talking about? one, we have to make certain we continue export controls semiconductors. economic decoupling on a selective basis. nobody suggesting. third making certain we are arming taiwan. learning heck of a lesson in ukraine. have to catch up in pacific region. they are dominating. those actions make good difference in china's pursuit of goals. >> shannon: you mentioned the
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optics, i cant to get to you crane. first i wants to talk about iran, deal coming together with regard to their nuclear program. white house antoni blinken say it is not true, there is no true. white house is skeptical. unwritten agreement without clear technical convictions would turn over data, submit to enhanced selections. when it crumbles, iran would face the world from a strong ore position. wiping out bans on billions of dollars and allowing them. should we be negotiating? >> to give them another win fall of cash as we did, 2015 nuclear deal, led to expansion. doesn't make any sense. not in our national interest.
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not in our strategic interest. we know what they are going do with it. they are going to fuel proxy wars. they are seeking domination and control of the mideast. holding 60% richmond, curtailing activities against syria and iraq. it wasn't a good deal in 2015, it isn't a good deal now. >> there is one to go around them. their radfication process. let's talk ukraine. secretary of defense lloyd austin, as counter defenses heating up there, here is his priority. >> remain focussed on making sure we are providing ukraine security assistance it needs to be successful in this fight. >> how is the u.s. doing
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providing assistance and how is the counter defense? >> we have provided good assistance. hasn't been timely enough and completely enough. as an example russians are using fighters and attack he want helicopters. europeans have put pressure. likely at that particular time end of the year h. fact of the matter, ukraine despite challenges we imposed percent not given them everything they need in a timely manner, they are going to take back their territory. strategically they want all the territory back even territory russia took in 2014. operationally, their goal,
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shannon, to cut off major supply russia to crimcrimea. that will give them tonight to threaten crimea with long range weapon systems and drones and ground attack to wrap uptaking territory back. that is what they are about. they are dealing with russia better at defense than offense. they have to penetrate through their 600 mile lines of defense, new york city to charlotte. what they are doing is not much publicity. slow. a lot is happening, ukrainians trying to find penetration points. what is the best place to go through russia's main line defense pursuing their security forces in front of it. that takes time. they don't want to get a lot of casualties trying to find out that answer which is the best place to do it.
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if they get through defenses, exploit it and move rapidly. that is plan. >> shannon: general, we appreciate it, thank you very much. >> great talking to you, shannon. happy fathers day to everyone out there. >> shannon: group of open letter 32 senators wrote to evan g gershkowitz. imprisonment is unjust and not stop working until the journalist is safely home. up next, democrats fight over order of primary calendar. could be setting up present biden for embarrassing dilemma. panel back to discuss next. num newel
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biden clinching big endorsement from aflco. there are other headaches they are worried about. another comes in form of third party bid on no labels candidate. democrats and republicans put this piece together, if he or she takes small vote from biden trump will return to the white house. how much of a headache d's or r's. >> for the d's. if there is a rematch e look at what happened in 2020. couldn't
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football stadium. it is going to be a razor-close election. if biden is not able to coalesce antitrump voters. trump makes it easier for trump to squeeze in. small percentage. cofounder and ceo wrote a piece in "l.a. times," democrats percents and republicans meeting, they don't care what voters want than compete against it. they are showing the country exactly why we are needed.
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opposition fractur with multi-use candidates. >> joe mansion has been a headache, nightmare for democrats on big issues. i asked him, he will not take it tauf table. he is not saying he is doing it but not absolutely not doing it. >> in the campaigns i have talked about to response to the third party, they say who is the candidate? if you look at usa. there are a lot of americans that could support as third party candidate. quarter of americans. that would significantly make a difference in the election depending on who it was. >> shannon: another make administration talk about changing dnc calendar.
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rules committee met this week, seems like they gave an extension, they didn't make decisions. this could be tricky. democrats in iowa and new hampshire could defy biden and move ahead with their contest. if he is not on the ballot. sets up a -- could win the states and embarrass the president. perception feeds reality. you lose two and people might have questions. >> look. democrats, as well as republicans know this is incredibly important election. there is always this jockeying who is first. people will take seriously this is a serious contest. you should vote for the person who can be a good president. look, i think the desire to have south carolina or a state reflective in terms of racial
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make up of the entire united states as a whole is something good to keep in mind. we do want to as we are going through the primary process, think about it is overall will of the people and support for that thriving multiracial democracy. folks in iowa we are not moving. some have state laws they can't say yes, we agree with dnc, we are going to move everything. >> shannon, there is irony we are going to go to south carolina racial make up. iowa propelled first african-american to victory. victory in iowa for barack obama. it is insult to folks in iowa what the democratic party has decided to. >> fact of the matter, joe biden didn't want iowa and new hampshire.
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>> shannon: south carolina saved his campaign. >> joyce for democratic party, allow joe biden to appear on the ballot. potential worst case scenario. they have kicked it down the road if you will. they are kicking decision down the round. >> mario, i see you shaking your head. south carolina changed everything for present biden. >> it resuscitated his campaign. last thing you want is him bloodied in the election. >> elizabeth what can he do to better meet that. recent stumbles. people always said joe is going
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to be joe. he is up to another four years. >> policy achievements have been extremely notable. even though they don't get all the credit they should. as my concern of the supreme court, getting justice jackson on the bench. huge while stone. more performances like ho gave at his last state of the union fig rows and dedicated to aggressive unless. >> shannon: all the big decisions due any day. panel, thank you. up next, conference about fatherhood. louis giglio, words of encouragement for all of us on thisday, next. people like sam who make...? ...everyday products... ...designed smarter. like a smart coffee grinder - that orders fresh beans for you. oh, genius! for more breakthroughs like that... ...i need a breakthrough card...
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and secure." pastor, love to have you on the show. you said there is fatherhood crisis? >> we look around statistics and current state in america, one in four kids, shannon, growing up in a home without as father present. that doesn't account the father in the home that is antagonistic or not plugged in. one in every four kids growing up without that presence of the covering of, protection of, blessing that we all long for, blessing of a dad. >> shannon: years ago after speaking to a group of college students young man told me if god is like my dodd, i am not interested. how do you speak to those folks, you are asking me to think of god as my heavenly father? >> god is not a bigger version
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of our earthly dad. he is the perfection of our earthly father. no matter what was broken, we can have a new relationship can with a perfect father who loves us as sons and daughters. >> shannon: how does it translate to our earthly relationships, dads that wanted to be better ats being a dad. >> for every dad and mom, begins being a son and daughter. of course you want to be a good dad, mom, leader, raise a good family. how do you do that? start by receiving the fact, god can give you what you need as a loved son or a loved daughter to help you be the leader of your family to help you raise your kids in a way god wants them to live. >> shannon: how did your dad make a difference in your life? >> my dad left a great mark on
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me. he wasn't the spiritual mentor. creative genius, amazing and cared for people and so genius. one of a kind original unique guy. a lot of his marks are left around city of america, chick-fil-a logo my dad did in 1964. a lot imprints. anything i have tried to do innovative because i watched this genius all my life and learned from him everyday of my life. >> shannon: you can hear my extended conversation on my podcast living the breem brand new this morning, download your podcast, also "fox news sunday" podcast and set dvr so you don't ever miss our show. 2:00 p.m. eastern. that is it for you.
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