out on the little water, you wear some sunblock, exercise, you get some exercise. all right. thanks for joining us this morning as we leave you with that fun shot out on the estuary. of course, we have the latest news for you tonight on the ktvu news at six and on the 10:00 news. and you can always find the latest news anytime on our ktvu news app. enjoy this beautiful sunday around the bay area. everybody >> shannon: i'm . former president trump faces m . another federal indictment, republicans vow to keep investigating the biden family and accuse the justice department of a double standard. this is election interference at its finest. the former president entering not guilty plea on four charges accusing him of attempting to overturn the 2020 election in run-up to january 6. >> if was fuelled by lies, lies by the defendant, targeted at

bedrock function of the government. >> trump is target trying to keep him from winning back the presidency. look at his defense. >> this is unprecedented and affects donald trump and every american who realizes the first amendment is under assault. >> shannon: trump attorney john lauro will detail his legal strategy, then and there, republicans release closed door transcript of devin archer testimony about business dealings with hunter and the lure of the biden brand. >> none of the conversations ever had to do with any business dealings or transactions, they were purely casual conversation. >> efrp understands that is the brand and illusion and it wasn't illusion of access. >> shannon: we'll talk to chip roy of texas and >> jake: jake auchincloss,

democrat in massachusetts >> plus, another republican presidential hopeful meets with president zelenskyy in kyiv. >> we need to be with ukraine on this fight. >> shannon: the gop field is split on this foreign policy issue. >> i think the europeanings need to take the lead. >> shannon: ask the sunday panel about shifting attitude about aid to ukraine. this is on "fox news sunday." >> shannon: hello, from "fox news sunday" in washington, another week in presidential politics with all the attention on donald trump, former president and dominant front-runner from the presidential nomination. he pleaded not guilty in special counsel jack smith investigation into alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election. trump will not appear this thursday after pleading not

guilty to super seeding indictment related to classified document case there. that same day, there is a hearing on a motion filed by trump's team in georgia to remove the fulton county da into alleged efforts to over 2k4r9 turn election results in that case. indictment of trump or others could be imminent, all attention deflecting from the gop field vying for the white house in 2024 and from president biden who at 80 years old running for a second four-year term and could face campaign liability in his son hunter's troubles. turn to john lauro, john, welcome to "fox news sunday." >> good morning. >> shannon: let's start here, friday night the former president had a post that wound up in filing before the truck. jack smith submitted this. if you go after me, i'm coming after you. smith asking the judge for

protective order arguing this, the court needings to take action, if the defendant issue publicity post using details or grand jury transcripts, obtained in discovery could have a harmful effect on witnesses or affect fair administration of justice in this case. the judge asked you to respond by monday. you asked for extension, she said no, do you worry this could result in a potential gag order? >> jonathan: this is problem with bringing this in a political season. president trump was responding to political opponents and the biden administration wants the judge to put in place an order that will prevent the press from obtaining exculpatory and material information that might be relevant to the proceedings, even though mr. trump, president trump, argued from the

beginning, as i have, this indictment is an attack on his first amendment rights. now the biden administration wants to deny all americans the opportunity to learn nonsenseative information about what the case involves. in a political season. we have to remember, that president biden, back in april 20 2022, which he repeated in november of 2022, he was going to take president out of the election. even though president trump is his most significant opponent, now we see the biden justice department acting on the biden plan. so president trump in the middle of a political season, is certainly entitled to respond politically. make no mistake, this is effort to prevent president trump from running for president. the same theories being used in this indictment against president trump could be used

against president biden for enlisting his justice department under the biden plan to prevent donald trump from running for president. >> shannon: talk about the charges. you say an attack on first amendment. justice department recognizes president trump has right to say things. the indictment says the defendant had a right, like every american, to speak publicly about it is election and claim falsely there had been outcome fraud during the election and that he had won. the rest of the indictment is about conduct, not just the speech. >> john: well, yeah, the first amendment protectses conduct, as well as speech. but what the justice department, biden administration doesn't do is reference what is conduct at issue. president trump did not issue executive orders or do anything in terms of using executive power. he simply petitioned and asked

state legislatures and state electoral officials around the country to act responsibly and petitioned not directed, petitioned vice president ultimately to pause voting on january 6 to allow the states to weigh in on auditingo recertifying. all that is core first amendment protected speech. in fact, everyone, whether a president of the united states or ordinary citizen like you or me, can petition their government with grievances or requests to redress action taken by the government, that is exactly what president trump did. this is core political speech being attacked under the biden plan. >> shannon: the argument, you can talk about conspiracy and anything you want to, the allegation is that underlying smrs conspiracy is not free. from new republic says this, unbounded view would eliminate

state and federal crimes, perjury is free speech, bribery is etch spoo, many types of fraud are speech, they go on and on and say first amendment protects all kind of i think thises, organizing coup deis not one of them. >> john: what is the obvious problem with that statement? none of the examples involve political speech. that is the point. those examples involve core criminal activity. what we have here is political speech, where president trump is petitioning the government. of course, saying something fraudulent in prospect us or accounting statement is not protected or robbing a bank is not protected. those examples are ridiculous, first amendment protect political speech higher than any other speech. reality is if you are going to talk about the law, you have to

understand what the first amendments and stands for and all the examples in the indictment are core political speech. every single thing that president trump is being prosecuted for involved aspirational asks, asking state legislators, asking state governors and electoral officials to do the right thing. even asking vice president pence, protected by free speech, that is not illegal. we have right to petition the government. >> shannon: quickly, you said you think this move by the protective order to keep people from seeing all the information. would you be okay with the president televised trial? would have to go through hoops and rule changes, but let the american people decide for themselves? >> john: yeah, i personally would love to see that.

i'm convinced biden administration does not want the american people to see the truth and they acted on it by filing this protected order, effort to keep important information about this case from the press. i'm shocked all the networks haven't lined up and filed pleadings objecting to this broad attempt by the biden administration to keep information away from the american people during an election season. the american people have a right to know. of course, joe biden doesn't want that to happen 6789 >> shannon: we'll watch your response to the judge and justice department on monday and follow this. john lauro, thanks for joining us. >> john: thank you. >> shannon: today's legal panel, berkeley law professor, attorney general john yoo and andrew mccarthy, u.s. attorney for southern district of new york. great to see both of you. okay. this fight over televising of the trial, there are a lot of

democrats and folks on left lining up that want to see it, sounds like the president's legal team says they are for it, too. does it happen? >> i doubt it, there is more at stake. i happen to be nay sayer, it is good thing federal trials were not televised. it makes it easier on the witnesses and i'm sure the jurors, a lot of people would not want to be a juror if they televised trials. i hope the opposite is what happens. >> shannon: we'll see. there will be a lot of maneuvers, pretrial here and i want to talk to john lauro about this and ran out of time. this issue of venue, he talked about getting it out of desantis, where 92% of results came in in favor of president biden. read something from the judge and order from another trial,

they were trying to get venue moved because of january 6 and political surroundings. defendants assumptions concerning party afill yagsz are not basis for changing venue, not evidence jurors cannot fairly consider the efsdz and apply the law. that is in a different case. same argument probably made here, john, any chance they move venue? >> john: i doubt it. the judge got it right. to say you would move venue would be to say every person in washington dc are biassed to donald trump. any of the january 6 protesters really couldn't be tried in a state with a large democratic population like the entire state of california or illinois. i don't think that is the case, we have voir dire to see if

there is bias and there will be the answers and donald trump's counsel will have every chance to sxbt strike jurors. we have a system that tries to eshg eliminate bias to get an impartial jury. >> shannon: sounds like free speech will be the part of this. the complaint is based on statements protected under the first amendment, eviscerate free speech and government could arrest those for spreading disinformation in election. he says folks who hate trump so much don't get chilling implication of where this complaint is going. speech is one thing, pushing a conspiracy is another. >> shannon, there is a cart before the horse problem here. i'm very sympathetic to jonathan's argument as

prudential reason as why justice department should not get involved and interfere with politics unless you have what attorney general barr used to call a meat-and-potatoes crime, serious offense supported by evidence. it is doctrine of law, first amendment does not protect you from evidence to prove conduct and that is why we don't get first amendment argument like in mafia cases and other crimes. it is not that you're banned from making the statements, they can be used as evidence for conduct. to me, bigger problem for the government's case is whether the thing charged is conduct, like i heard in the clip you played, you don't get to organize coup de, against the government. that is fine, show me the section in penal code to do what trump did, then i will believe it, they can't tie him to

violence. i think the thing they charged him with is not a crime, that is defect in the case. >> shannon: john, people may not realize, it is government did not try for seditious conspiracy, they are not in the indictment. >> john: that's right, shannon and that is implication or consequence of how the justice department chose to try this case. they don't have the facts to connect president trump with the january 6 attack, you don't see insightment to insurrection and seditious conspiracy, preventing execution of the law. what jack smith talked on and on about when he publicly released the indictment. they had to fall back to claims which are really not suited for this kind of political offense, if this is what it is, like

defrauding the government, usually government contractors or medicare fraud or witness tampering. the one that seems worst of all, conspiracy to deprive people of constitutional rights when what trump was doing was trying to pursue constitutional and legal option he thought were open and did not prevent anybody from voting, for example, back in november. this is all the things, problems you are mentioning, shannon, are consequences that jack smith did not turn up in his two-year investigation. >> shannon: the hunter biden case continue to play out, plea deal fell apart, the judge told the parties to come back. we are told it is ongoing investigation, did the plea deal come together? >> that is fiction, there is no ongoing investigation, they are saying it is, that is black hole to allow them not to cooperate with the investigation done on capitol hill. if there were an investigation, the thing you would do when the

plea bargain blew up, you wouldn't have done it, it would be done all right, was indict the case. have indictment and stop the statute of limitation and layout all crimes against hunter biden. they won't do that for same reason they don't want to layout immunity in the plea agreement. if you layout everything you had in way of evidence in the charges in the biden family investigation, it would be unacceptable to people that you could sell the case for two misdemeanor counts, that would never happen fchl there were investigation, we would have indictment, we don't have one because there isn't one. >> shannon: thank you both very much, we'll track all the cases. see you soon. up next, more on hunter biden's legal trouble as republicans vow to continue their investigations and accuse the justice department of a double standard.

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>> shannon: the house oversight committee released 141 page transcript of the interview of devin archer. archer testified hunter was selling the brand in business dealings with foreigners and his father, then vice president of the united states, who brought value to the brand. democrats and republicans are divided about the interview. we'll talk with members of congress from bothf the aisle. start in massachusetts with conge

back on. >> shannon: this week, we talked to former baltimore police commissioner who got caught up in tax problems and ended up pleading guilty and going to jail for situation that was the amounts were lower, crimes charged about the same with hunter biden. i want you to hear what he has to say, he takes responsible, but as this. >> they should be held at same standard as me or someone else that unfortunately had to go through this. like i said, i want to hold myself accountable and i'm sure millions of americans across the world, they want fairness in the justice system. >> shannon: prosecutors were the same, amounts higher with hunter biden, no jail recommendation for him. jail for this gentlemen who served his time. how do you convince the american people it is not two-tiered? >> jake: if hunter biden committed crimes, hunter biden

should face justice and accountability for the crimes, which is a sentence i've heard few republicans say -- for more massive crimes. this obsession on hunter biden is really just what about-ism, republicans trying to diminish and defend donald trump from the grave crime of conspiracy against the constitution of the united states. they want the american public to focus on the man who swore to protect the constitution, the constitution i upheld as member of congress and he tried to overturn our very democracy and we don't have to accept that premise, american public deserves justice for donald trump and also should expect hunter biden face justice, as well, for mistakes he made. >> shannon: yes, we are spending plenty of time focusing on donald trump, we want to focus on hunter biden. call hunter biden and burisma

and big guy, influence pedalling, former president's legal problem, hunter plea bargain has become more than that, public test of equity for the government that put trump indictments in motion. do you get half the country is skeptical about the justice department? >> jake: i get that donald trump is sowing doubt in the system. >> shannon: let's focus on hunter. >> jake: this is about donald trump trying to overturn the constitution, of course hunter biden should face justice. no one in this country is not above the law, not son of the president, not former presidency, everyone should face accountability. this is apples and orange. they don't want to talk about the crime of donald trump. >> shannon: we aren't talking about that, we are talking about hunter. devin archer testified and democrats and republicans saw his testimony differently.

this is from house oversight committee james comer, he says there is more to come. >> we produced bank records and evidence, everything i said about criminal activity by bidens, i can back up with evidence. one member of the house oversight committee on democrat side can tell narrative to the press and they run with it. >> shannon: comers they may release more bank rords, as now gallup poll shows majority in u.s. say biden administration ethics is sub-par, 65% is the number there. there are red flags, maybe the bidens shouldn't have been involved with some of this? >> jake: i approach every issue with an open mind, i put country before party, something i wish my colleagues on other side of the aisle on january 6 would have done. i've said if hunter biden committed crimes, he should be accountable for them. what we saw from archer

testimony, unflattering portrait, no material involvement from joe biden himself. no material involvement from joe biden himself. it is smoke republicans are trying to gin up and no fire and redirect american attention away from most important indictment in american history, donald trump. >> shannon: i think americans have ability to look at both cases at the same time and make their own decision. one example republicans cite, talk about the fact hunter biden was on board of burisma in 2014, spring of 2015, dinner in washington, d.c. that included burisma official, vice president went by and devin archer said he stayed and had dinner. there was discussion burisma official wanted u.s. officials to come to ukraine, they were under investigation by victor

shurkin there and meet in the west wing with vice president biden and calls hunter after that and we're told there will be a trip by the vice president to ukraine. hunter biden gets e-mail from burisma saying, we want to confirm the trip is upon haing, he goes in december of 2015. they want shirkin gone. here is how the meeting was described. >> i leave in six hours if prosecutor is not fired, you are not getting the money, you get fired. that -- was gone. >> shannon: do you understand how people have concern after that chain of events? >> jake: very cherry-picked set of evidence. archer himself said it may not have been in burisma interest to have that prosecutor removed.

devin archer said hunter biden was trying to pitch the illusion of access. there are threads of conspiracy, republicans have been unable to tie together, designed to embarrass the president. we need to step back, stop trying to interfere in investigation for political end and allow law and facts to weigh, which is what is happening right now in the indictment of donald trump for conspiracy to defraud the american public. we need republicans and democrats to stop trying to sow doubt in legal institution. >> shannon: we want those to move forward, people of good faith want to see justice applied across the board. we will follow the trials and people can make their own decision. congressman auchincloss, we appreciate your time, thank you. joining me in wash ush wa, -- washington texasessman chip roy. there are people choosing party over this.

clearly the federal president has indictments and maybe more to come. >> good morning, shannon. if jake thinks there is no problem, if he thinks there is nothing to see here, why not have a special counsel appointed by the united states attorney general where there is clear conflict of interest? we have democrat administration, no special counsel set up. they set up special counsel with jack smith to target the president and there is not one needed. you have adversaryial process, they want cover for targeting president trump. question already asked and answered through the impeachment process. democratic colleagues don't want to seek the truth. you are going down rabbit trails and don't have evidence, why not get a special counsel and why don't the d.o.j. pursue information just laid out and jake had no response other than to say let's focus on president trump. rule of law matters and i say that as someone who voted for

electors and did not agree with john eastman and president trump in 2020 and january of 2021. rule of law matters other direction, as well. you cannot use doj to target former president when contemplates impeachment as path to go down political questions. this is something being put up politically, purposely, theory of defrauding, by "new york times" own description, novel legal theory to go after a former president and current challenger of the current president. democratic colleagues know what they are doing. >> shannon: talk about that. you talk about rule of law, and law of order and know ares talk about that all the time. you said it is time to push back on the d.o.j., what do you mean, defunding, impeachment? you don't like law and order when it is coming for your people, is what they say. >> we saw it against scott smith

in loudoun county and people targeted for being pro-life, we should hold funding back in the appropriation process and hold funding from alejandro mayorkas for going after greg abbott for wanting to protect the border. this country wants their country back and believe in america again and know the rule of law is being enforced. use power of purse in congress. for my colleagues, i not vote for continuing resolution or funding for dhs or doj if we don't get changes. i want the border secured, use power of purse as james madison wrote, it is most powerful weapon against over tyrannical executive branch we see before our eyes. >> shannon: if you take money away, how are they able to do their job? >> it is not taking money away, it is saying, you are not

getting a blank check without the president sitting down and sayings, here is what what we're going to do to secure thborder. we will pass hr-2, get rid of alejandro mayorkas, pay texas back and put people on the border to enforce laws that exist. with the fbi, put special counsel in charge of what is going on with the biden investigation, instead of leaving it to politicals to not pursue the facts. key can demand that, we hold the power of the purse. >> shannon: before we leave the devin archer and hunter situation, i read deposition and you have, too, interview, democrats say no smoking gun, they say there is no there there. >> you need a full-throated investigation to pull the facts out. we have house oversight committee doing a great job,

that is department of justice job, that is my point. need to force them to do their job. of course there is a lot of smoke and i think there is fire, at least an ember, president biden saying, son of a you know what, what did they do when i held back a million dollars. yeah, yeah, wink, wink, my dad is involved in all of this and proud to see you got business dealings going on. we see information coming from archer, we need a full investigation, that is why i said where is special counsel, they appointed one for trump, why not do it here. >> shannon: fitch downgraded this week. they are pointing fingers and say chaos in washington, you talked about what you won't vote for spending and talk of government shutdown, democrats

say downgrade is result of machines manufactured default crisis, they repeatedly put full faith of the nation and they are responsible for the second downgrade in credit rating. you have funding bills on a rocky path at this point. >> earlier this year, the house freedom caucus, entire republican conference united behind a spending bill to return bureaucracy to pre-covid numbers. 4 trillion of borrowing blessed by congress and president signed it. we've seen trillion and a half dollars of debt since memorial day, we can't keep spending recklessly. we are funding dhs that doesn't secure homeland or enforce rule of law. dod is more interested in being woke than defending the united

states, my job is to hold spending to 1.4 trillion, 2024 level and get on path to fiscalk and that is what we will fight for. >> shannon: it is thank you for coming in. god bless you. most democrats think former president trump would be the best target in 2024. new warnings from the left and right that they should be careful what they ask for, up next, we will bring in our sunday panel to discuss the latest in the race to the white house. affordable healt h care? christian health care ministries could save you up to 40% today. as a member, you can choose your provider without network restrictions. sign up at your convenience with our anytime enrollment. join a christian community that supports each other's medical expenses, offering peace of mind as you prioritize what's most important.

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>> every time they file an indictment, we go way up in the polls, we need one more indictment to close out this election. one more indictment and this election is closed out. nobody has a chance. >> shannon: interesting take by president donald trump, defiance in first speech since being arraigned, predicting the legal issues will help him in the race to the white house. talk to our panel, josh kraushaar, constitutional lawyer, elizabeth wydra, former

rnc director and author and legal commentator, thank you for being here today. start there. editorial board for "wall street journal" says this is where democrats want voters to focus on mr. trump all day everyday. horace. >> when i was a kid, my grandmother told me the case about breyer rabbit being caught by the fox and he said you can drown me issue eat me issue roast me, whatever you do, don't throw me into the briar patch and the fox threw him into the briar patch and set him free. it looks like these indictments constitute the briar patch for former president and many like the fox think they have finally caught him, they have him under control temperature may prove to

be just as like the issue of the briar patch. >> shannon: that's what axios is warning of, trump is tied with biden, biden and trump are tied in polls according to "new york times" poll saying they think trump committed serious crime baked in with him. there are warnings, we read about in politico this week, that former president obama had a warning for president biden and warned him about not taking president trump seriously enough. are democrats getting what they ask for at their own risk? polling results seem they want president trump, but he can put up the good fight with president biden. >> we are seeing in that defiant speech, he is using this to political advantage with his base. i think the administration was in a tough place, if the facts about the indictment and very serious issues of trying to

overturn democracy and classified documents case, potentially threatening the national security of the united states with highly sensitive documents, these are serious charges. i think the administration, the doj, which is insulated from political concerns, i think they did the right thing by following the facts and law where it led. whether or not it is positive political thing, is less clear, i'm proud of them for not engaging in political calculus necessarily and working to uphold the rule of law. even if he can score points or fund raise off indictments, republican party i grew up with wanted to protect national security and ensure people's votes were counted and democracy rang in the united states and around the world. seems cause for definite

self-reflection for the party. >> shannon: piece by david brooks, he talks about, what if we're the bad guys, people who are anti-trump, are they pushing half of americans into his arms, people in less educated classes assume they are under moral assault and rally around trump as best worrier against educated class. the real question is when will we stop behaving in ways that make trump-ism inevitable. a lot of people felt condescension, are you making america love trump? >> a lot of things that happen on capitol hill, republican meetings, democratic meetings, horace and i were in meetings, challenge our own assumptionless, what can we do embarrass? that is what david brooks is

speaking to, there is anti-strump and the ant anti-anti-trump. you played that game before, clinton campaign wanted to face donald trump, they got their ideal opponent and see what it got them, they lost in the end. >> shannon: there is worry among democrats, we've seen polling many in the party don't want president biden to be their nominee again. that looks inevitable at this point. whistling past the graveyard, democrats are worried about grassroots fund raising. lack of grassroots engagement is warning sign to biden raising questions about he is exciting the democratic base the way he will need to win a second term. we are about to head into election with a match up between indicted president and 80-year-old president who has a problem making his case to the

american public. joe biden has raised less money at this point compared to donald trump in this quarter, running up to re-election, to bring up barack obama run-up to the re-election, half of democrats show desire for someone else to run as democratic nominee and i think joe biden's biggest concern is not trump. there will be a lot of voters looking at trump's problems and voting for biden automatically, challenge is getting them to show up, getting the base to show up and they are apathetic about his campaign. >> that "new york times" poll with tied 43%, this was not about donald trump strength, it was incumbent. joe biden is in a bad place. >> especially with black voters. >> shannon: fox news channel, your home for first debate august 23 in milwaukee, bret baier and martha maccallum will moderate at 9 p.m. eastern.

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>> shannon: ukrainian president zelenskyy presenting peace plan at summit of two dozen countries this weekend with one absence of russia. joining us live in kyiv fox news senior foreign affairs greg p palkot, with the beautiful church bells in the background. >> bells going on, not peace here. peace talks going on in saudi arabia wrapping up just about that, we'll get to those. to the war-like action happening here overnight. >> russia firing another wave of hyper sonic and cruise missiles

and drones at locations throughout ukraine. blood bank in eastern ukraine, a war crime it has been called. ukraine busy, too, university building up inim thats, unconfirmed charges ukraine used cluster mu nittions and launched in the black sea this past week, apparent response to russia grain pullout to get grain to needy countries. crown prince solomonhas met in the u.s. russia was not there. according to officials, basic principles were discussed, international law and international rule based order. >> we anticipated this conference will show progress,

progress of work with countries in the global south and progress is there. >> russia again a nonattendee at this meeting, called it a hoax. it grinds on, one important takeaway, the decision to meet again. >> shannon: greg palkot, thank you. back with the panel. this is something the 2024 gop field is having to talk about, there is daylight among them on the issue with ukraine. chris christie latest to touchdown for meetings on the ground. what about the field having to get serious about foreign policy discussion? >> josh: if ukraine is part of divide within the republican party, as you are suggesting, shannon, and you have strong division between hawks, mike pence and chris christie and nikki haley, isolationists are making up majority of this

republican electorate, donald trump, ron desantis a little bit in that direction and this will be the fight within the republican party. look at pollings and strong support for funding and upon hadding ukraine defeat russian aggression. republican party is divided. this will be fought on the campaign trail and this debate on folks, foreign policy will be an issue. >> shannon: foreign policy issue with russia pressuring current administration there is a coup, valuable uranium, an outpost for those wanting democracy. waved russian flag to denounce french empiricalism. the world would depend more on moscow and clients for atomic

energy and word this morning the pro-coup group, is calling on wagner for help. >> no surprise, our president was selected to be running mate of joe biden. since he was vice president, he's been on the wrong side of every consequential and foreign policy issue. he seems to have a problem with military bases. our niger access is frit erred away like bagram was frittered away. little to no attention to the needs of our country and like nixon, who was seen as a hawk, but during vietnam war, ended up having to shut it down, because the american people were sick and tired of the shenanigans

andim gas. we are seeing american dollars going to waste and little positive outcome. no surprise we don't see support in the ukrainian base for this republican effort. >> shannon: issue with niger, the aps now the u.s. gave russia an opening says this, coup could leave russia to pick up important drone bases used between libya and nigeria, we have misstep and miscommunication breakdown, push niger, toward russia? just another headache for this administration. >> it is also a blow to democracy around the world. region of west africa was a burgeoning democracy hub in the continent of africa and to see corruption and neglect of the people. the people of niger, have been

suffering with extreme poverty and a sense of injustice. this coup is disturbing for growth of democracy, the failure to really shore up some of the west african democracies and we're seeing this and other copies in the region in the past few years, it is heartening to see the west african regional forces say they might intervene to put back in place democratically elected president there, it is certainly a cause for concern for the people who are the most affected by this here in niger, ukraine and for democracy. >> shannon: we make foreign policy issue on stage and throughout the 2024 field, vivek ramaswamy, who has been rising in the polls, got himself in a place, he had to explain himself. this is some of his, what he had to say on 9/11. >> i don't believe the government has told us the truth.

i'm driven by evidence and data, what i've seen, we have to be skeptical what the government does tell us, i have not seen evidence to the contrary, but do i believe everything the government told us about it, absolutely not. do you believe 9/11 was an inside job? >> i don't. >> shannon: issue of mistrusting the government. >> for sure, robust skepticism for anything in government, taking it extra stretch or four, from vivek ramaswamy, he said in iowa, i don't know if this is left-leaning talking point, i don't care. running for republican nom nagsz, probably don't say that sentence and don't go down a rabbit hole, you get in a dangerous place having to explain weird things very quickly. >> shannon: we have to say u.s. women's world cup team is out, i think we might have images of this disappointing loss with sweden. watch world cup play out on fox.

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