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how will his 4th criminal indictment in the race for the white nothing othing wrong. everybody knows it. >> a snapshot in time. surrendering in georgia a day after his rivals ebated their support. >> the t is beneath the office of president of the united states. >> president trump i believe was the best president of the 21st century. >> all 19 defendants now processed in a trial that for at least 1 could start as at least october. republicans in the house are demanding answers and documents from the fulton county da. we will discuss what comes next with one of president trump's attorneys alina habba. >> then the odds of a 2020 repeat are very high.

a growing number of voters is open to backing a third-party candidate. >> people are sick and fed up with the 2 major parties. >> we will discuss the prospects for third-party ticket with no labels founding chair. former senator, joe alleva ben. as cricket it would benefit present trump. >>. >> and, they will not be able to turn back the clock. >> civil rights leaders gather in the shadow of the lincoln memorial. 60 years after martin luther king jr. gave his, i have a dream speech. will ask our sunday panel, what progress has been made and what still needs to be done. as a pardon campaign fields criticism from black voters. plus, as russia's work with ukraine rages on, "fox news sunday" takes you to the front lines for look at cutting edge battlefield medicine. >> when that patient recovers and looks in the mere they see themselves as a full human being. >> all right now on "fox news sunday". hello from fox news in

washington. we are following to breaking stories this morning. a military helicopter carrying nearly 2 dozen us marines crash this morning during an exercise on an australian island. this is look at emergency crews at work this morning. 3 marines were killed. 5 more have been flown to the mainland into his condition. the marines were taking part in drills with several countries at the time. the cause of the crash is under investigation. we are also following tragic news out of jacksonville florida. 4 people are dead including the shooter and what the sheriff there is calling a racially motivated shooting. authorities say the government, a white male in his 20s entered a dollar general store during a tactical vest armed with an error 15 and a handgun. one of them marked with a swastika. 3 black victims, 2 male and one female were killed before the shooter took his own life. the sheriff says this suspect wrote several manifestoes " it

hated black people and involuntary committed to a mental hospital for evaluation. residents gathered at multiple prayer circles near the scene of the shooting. we will track those 2 stories. 2 other top story. anyone criminal charges and for pending criminal cases. there are 3 several cases looming as well. standing in the way of former presidents trump efforts to win back the white house. all of that leading to this. mug shot for the history books. taken by the fulton county sheriff's office in the georgia case. the former president along with 18 codefendants booked on felony charges related to election interference. will any of them decide to now cooperate with prosecutors? that's the question. trial dates are up in the air. starting as soon as this fall then running for the first half of 2024 as a primary election will be in full swing.

right now donald trump is the undisputed republican front runner in every poll. his campaign confirms he's raised a staggering $7 million since that mug shot was released. we began here with trump legal spokesperson alina habba also general counsel for the save american leadership. welcome back to "fox news sunday". looks thank you. happy to be back. >> you call this mug shot one of the best things that's ever happened president trump. these indictments have been a boon politically. months and years down the road there are a lot of legal battles ahead. we want to show folks. this is the timeline of all the pending court dates and trials in the coming months. he's innocent on every criminal charge unless a jury finds him guilty unreasonable doubt. the maximum charges and convictions all total together they come to more than 700 years in prison. are there moments in talking this over at city with the president that the weight of that reality sets in for him? >> no shannon. you just displayed i think says it all. that is all intentional. that is exactly what they wanted to do. there's very much accorded effort. if you ever doubted it about

how fanny when she was asked at her press conference she was coordinating with jack smith dc and the government couldn't give us a guess or know. that sense at all. we note this is intentional. we are not concerned because we know the facts of the cases. which i can't get into perfect privileged reasons. i can tell you is to tie him up. it's deathly political. the motivation is under investigation by jim jordan for fanny. i believe jack smith should be investigated as well. they intentionally waited years and years for something that happened to bring it now when he is a leading candidate for the republican party. >> we will talk about some of that back and forth with the gop with our legal panel. let me ask you this, with the logistics, he saw the timeline. that's the middle of running for president. caucasus primaries.

how do you logistically handle prepping a client for all those different trials and running for president of the united states? >> if it was a normal person, honestly shannon i could understand the concern. president trump is not your average person. is a crudely intelligent. he knows the ropes. he also knows the facts because he loves them. these are not complicated facts. look at fanny, it was a phone call. a phone call that's been around forever. that he refers to as a perfect phone call. what will he have to be prep for? the truth? you have to prep gone chinese done nothing wrong. that i'm not concerned with. these trial dates are going to move. it's unrealistic. it's theatrics. no judge is going to say that you could be on 2 trials at once into different states. a lot of these overlap. they look at the start date of the trial. these are 4 to 6 week trials at the least. there's no wait for knock on overlap. the can have to go into october, november of next year. again, by design. in terms of president trump, the candidate, i've zero

concerns. look at his poll numbers and he didn't even go to the debate. >> the numbers are through the roof. to be fair for georgia indictment is very lengthy. at times and a lot of people. it seems to be in the center of what fani willis is building her case on. let me look back at one of the federal cases. there's been a change with regards to the mar-a-lago case. special counsel filed a new document it appear trump employee has changed his story. jack smith's filing says this and really after receiving new counsel trump employee for retracted his false testimony and provided information that implicated now to de oliveira and trump in efforts to delete security camera footage. newsweek rents is handling about that employee. him flip it could spark domino effect against donald trump. saw people involved a lot of different cases. they don't all have the resources the part for president has to defend himself. are you worried about them flipping in any of these cases?

>> the term flipping shannon in itself implies that you've done something wrong and somebody's going to turn on you. >> no, just as testimony. meaning he told one story, changed atari attorneys and now he has flipped. >> meaning that he possibly obstructive justice or said something different, i don't know.i wasn't there and have it to the testimony. my point to you is this. it's very nerve-racking from these defendants for all of them across the board. to go in front of a grand jury which i have had the pleasure of doing because i'm a trump attorney appeared to go in front of grand jury even as an attorney is a very frightening thing. they are intimidating. it's not normal. for these people that are literally "the american dream", they've come in, the parents were born here. they are immigrants and gotten a great job. all of a sudden both roast into a grand jury, white because of work for president trump. that's what they do to you?

it's terrible. i feel for all these witnesses. including the one that got his due lawyer. who knows what the facts are. they're wonderful people. i note many if not all of them. what they're doing is intimidation. i will not what happened in a grand jury testimony without speaking to that testimony. i could take we know one side. when we get our chance we will show exactly what happened and hold president is vindicated. >> that's what our justice department is all about. alina, thanks. we will continue to track the cases with you. >> thank you. >> not her legal panel, jonathan turley and tom dupree assistant attorney general. welcome back. tom, let me start with you. what you make of that? the filing of the special counsel said the sky changed his story and that's how they got to the superseding indictment which leveled more charges against the president. >> it's intriguing. my senses are might be a harding of west compared the georgia case you have 20

defendants. i suspect is a must play on and a lot of these codefendants appease the prop of incarceration themselves. they will start doing things like this. they were start changing their testimony and having second thoughts. some cases they might flip or cooperate with the da. i think this is a moving target. i think will take time. probably few months before the dust started settlement think shakeout i would figure out what every witnesses story is and how precisely they fit into the overall mosaic. >> fani willis wanted to try all 19 together which most of us seems like a very ambitious undertaking. if at one split off and be granted a city trial. that we have 5 reporting they will move over to federal court. how would that work? to think there's a chance and how would it benefit the defendants? >> it will be hard to make it work.it's like a potato sack race with 38 legs. it's hard enough to do it with 2 people. these people are very different in many respects.

there charged with a wide variety of crimes. she links them altogether with this conspiracy. a point seems to break down. it will be hard to see how you could do this. there's a compelling argument for trump meadows and perhaps others that they should be removed to federal court under a federal statute. others are going to want a speedy trial. speedy trial may be an advantage if nothing else. not to be tried in mouse. the georgia prosecutors want to do is to try to get a mass prosecution hopefully has conviction. that socko set well. some these people said you know what, give me a speedy trial. you can have all distinct fractionally along those lines. a lot of defendants like most defendants are gonna say no, or waving a speedy trial. there is a lot of evidence here. we need time to get through it. >> the gop is pressing hard on the georgia prosecutors saying we want to know what your motivations were.

to do work with chuck smith? did you use federal resources which state offices do use federal resources. is there a problem there or as republicans of accusing her to be political in person in nature. she could talk to chuck smith. >> she could. we saw the house attempted sort of thing with that they try to get the prosecutors and that didn't go anywhere. i think the challenge here, i understand the frustration. we talked about a local or state prosecutor they don't have that same built-in supervision but a federal prosecutor would. not that the rogue actors. they could do what they want. the ultimate check on them as a judge and the jury.understand why the house is doing it. my guess is they may send letters and may subpoena and tried to bring prosecutors in. at the end of the day it's a uphill battle. even if the prosecutor start to show there was a look one up bill of oppressed prosecution or investigation will talk to you now. will come back later. >> i think the alma bragg case

is an example of how there could be a lot of angst but nothing comes to fruition as the house investigator's would hope. i want to talk about victor show can interview that are brian kilmeade dead. this hunter bided in brisbane appeared this is the former prosecutor general in ukraine. he does this interview with brian. he says he believes he was fired based on pressure by then vice president biden. he asked this serious allegation.>> i do not want to deal in unproven facts. my personal conviction is yes, this was the case. they were being bribed. the fact that joe biden gave away $1 billion in us money in exchange for my dismissal, my firing. isn't that alone a case of corruption. >> these are false claims. they been debunked. this from ian sansone. this is a former ukrainian

prosecutor general's office his own deputy called a hotbed of corruption. trying to transfer form not only from then private vice president biden from diplomats and national partners. what you make at these new claims? the white house said everybody that the white house was cropped up a time. >> was struck at how fast they came out and said don't listen to the sky. that always sets off alarms. when the most interesting aspects of the brian kilmeade interview is the first ever to ask me for an interview. bob pulled me over. after all these years nobody has actually tried to ask one of the key figures about what happened. it's not that you should take his word for it. as you know there were republicans and democrats raising concerns about shogun. there are very serious allegations here. he's making new ones at least he supported one set of party been made. the question is how do we resolve it? in many ways merit garland has

made the case for the start of an impeachment inquiry. we are not going to get these types of answers out of the special counsel by making an insulated wise for many of the questions that will be answered in congress. we need answers to these things. people need to talk to show can and his critics. to have the house and just don't listen to the sky. it really raises its own questions. if there is a problem here involving white house officials in this narrative could come back to haunt the president. i think it's better to say look, how about it. it's interview all these people. bring a man to congress and gets the answers . >> well, we will see if that happens. they're always investigating multiple things. jonathan and tom thank you very much.>> could 3rd party spoiler told the white house back and president trump's favor? we will discuss 2 worries on the left we sat down with the founding chair of no labels for third-party option. [music] hltes could save you up to 40% today.

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increasingly grabbing headlines as it says it wants to provide an alternative to a bided /trump rematch. is preparing a possible unity ticket. many democrats worry the groupáin applying the spoiler paving the way for trump to return to the house. tournament out former connecticut senator joe lieberman whose founding chair of no labels. senator is a democrat turned independent in the vice presidential nominee in 2000. senator, welcome back to "fox news sunday". >> thank you shannon. good morning to you and good to be with you. >> let's start here. data for progress as a group that's on the fan of this idea.

they've crunched a lot of data, numbers, talk with potential voters. they say this with no visible path to victory such a campaign would only serve to split independent voters, undermined biden's reelection campaign and spoil the election in favor of trump. what criteria do you use to assess whether you think this is going to benefit one side or the other and what you bow out if you think this no labels party run would actually benefit president trump?>> okay, good and fair questions. incidentally groups like that that have been attacking this no labels exploration of a possible third choice for the american people next year are not a surprise because no labels is challenging the political status quo and in the control that the 2 parties have over a political system. the american people keep saying, 1 the word about their

own future and the future of their country, our country. and 2, the 2 major parties spend more time fighting each other than trying to respond to the things that the people are worried about like the economy and crime and cultural changes in our rule in the world. we think there's a real opportunity for 3rd choice and the american people are telling us on pulling we are doing in discussions we are having that they've lost confidence in the 2 major parties. by large numbers they don't want to have to choose again between president trump and president biden. >> senator, let me ask you if that polling showed you you guys are gonna to in one way or another and especially for president trump. would you bow up and let the 2 parties go head-to-head?>> well, here's what we've said about that. we are only going to run

basically to offer our ballot line, 3rd line on the 50 american states to a bipartisan unity ticket if we think it has a realistic chance to win. we are not going to be a spoiler. by my definition i think most people would say, a spoiler ticket would be a ticket that has no chance to win and would take votes disproportionately from one of the major party candidates. our plan is to only run if we think we have a chance to win. we just finished a bowl of 10,000 voters in the 8 battleground states. the give them a choice of trump, biden and a moderate independent third choice. 63 percent say they are open to a moderate independent third

choice. i understand that's not a ticket. it shows how much the american people don't want to just have to vote for trump and biden. incidentally, if we run it's going to be a bipartisan ticket. not only will we have concluded that they really can win but, because it's bipartisan we are confident it's going to take equally from both parties. and the idea that we will spoil it and relook president trump is not realistic. >> let's talk about how you would choose the individuals who would end up on the ticket. a lot of attention given to an event you had earlier this year with former joe manchin and john huntsman. how will people have a voice? how will you select who ends up on the ticket? >> or breaking new ground here. that's it been really strong or winning third-party ticket

since abraham lincoln. perot in 1992. here's what were planning. right now we are focused first on what's most important. on getting on the ballot with iii line in all 50 states that we will then offer and give to a bipartisan unity ticket. this fall were going to bring together a process that will be open where we will begin to consider what that ticket might be. who might be on the ticket. we were offer this line if we think next year as the race clarifies really for this trump and biden whether we want to go forward and run according to the standards i mentioned just a few moments ago. we are to have scheduled a

bipartisan convention. think about it. we haven't seen that ever in recent history. bipartisan name nominated convention for dallas texas in april of next year. >> okay. as we look ahead to that there are 3 leaders of democrat groups who are worried about this. they penned an opinion piece at the "washington post". they said this is dangerous. note labels has yet to say quote biden makes biden 8 kamc unacceptable quantity. there's no need to search for a centrist candidate who is willing to work with members of the opposition. we are to have one. he sitting in the oval office. what is your argument against president biden being a reasonable option? >> you know i've known joe biden forever. i'm served with him for 24 years in the u.s. senate. i liked him. i admire him. the reality is that it's not what i like. the american people want 3rd

choice. they want 3rd choice because the 2 parties and these 2 candidates are not giving them hope that the us government will really do something about all the things they worry about, crime, the economy. what were gonna do in ukraine and the rest of the world for china for instance. therefore i think, here's the other thing. i think people are convinced my worry about this too. if it's trump and biden one of them gets elected, in the end were still good how partisan gridlock and division. what we want to do is offer an alternative which is a bipartisan unity ticket. think about it.a fresh start with some capable people who were not going to be accountable to the party and feel an obligation to slash the other party but, will really

try to get something done together for our country. >> well, senator we know this group has been in the works for long time. you have good goals. we will see how this plays out with the name and if it ends up on the state balance. that convention in april next year. senator, thank you. >> thanks shannon.we will see you there. it's gonna be a great year ahead. >> growing concerns president biden's commit resistance from long reliable democratic constituency. black voters. we will record on this week's washington 60 years after doctor kings i have a dream speech. ask our sunday panel what may be causing some voters to lose faith in the democrat party. [music] o she had a lot of questions when she came in. i watched my mother go through being a single mom. at the end of the day, my mom raised three children, including myself. and so once the client knew that she was heard.

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>> it was the suites are native progress for the thousands of marchers who this weekend marked the 60th anniversary of the historic 1963 march on washington. remember it for doctor martin luther king jr.'s, i have a dream speech. an indictment of america's unkempt promise witnessed by 1/4 million people and delivered in the shadow of abraham lincoln. by contrast saturday's commemoration was more of a reflection of just how far the nations come. along this journey towards a more perfect union. the fulfillment of doctor king's dream. >> yes, it did come true in many ways. however, of course we are still in a struggle. >> struggle because democrats facing political pressure from black voters. whose disillusionment with the biden administration is growing. for the white house that's

worrisome. the latest survey showing 35 percent of black voters disapproving of the weight mr. biden is handling the economy. worse, black voter turnout regularly 10 percentage points to 42 percent during the 2022 midterm elections. the patterns that experts suggest could spell ruin for biden's reelection hopes. perhaps then not coincidentally the administration is reigniting its focus on affirmative action. issuing informal guidance to colleges and universities yet there are legal ways to pursue racial and ethnic diversity in their student enrollments. >> we are here for rededication for the fight for future who at long last america's practice will be as good as its promise. >> promise 60 years in the making. >> that was kevin cork reporting in washington. it's time not for study group. it was safe today white house correspondent jessica chambers. ron williams senior political analyst. former chief of stash mission mcconnell and penny nance. welcome to all of you. want to look at the pew center

research. they were looking at the effective carton luther martin luther king's legacy. they say this, 52 percent american seeing there's been a great deal of her amount of progress on racial equality in the last 60 years. 3rd say there's been some progress but $0.15 state no progress at all. 60 years out from that speech, ron, where do you think we are? >> i think we've made progress. remember doctor king made that speech in 1953. that's before passage of the city for civil rights act. we had segregated movie theater seating and water fountains and the like. i don't think there's any question we've made progress. you can't use that as an excuse to look away from the division, the disparities on race that continue to exist. gallup had a pullout earlier this year said 60 percent of americans are dishonest fine with the state of race relations today. we lived in an era, i think that the satisfaction will relive an area or have the first black president.

we've also had a knee on george floyd's neck. this is an era in which we have a monument to doctor king on the mall. we also have efforts to strip black history out of some schoolbooks. this is an error in which the supreme court is undone much. i think hollowed out much of the voting rights act. we don't ended affirmative action. you have people that are saying caution, there are still so much to be done. looking for answers. right now i think a lot about, when i look at the question of how much progress we've made. you've noticed there's a political division the republicans are twice as likely as democrats to say they are satisfied with race relations. you know, especially in the republican party there is a base there that is very anxious

about the changes in american demographics, the rise in the numbers, the percentage of non-minorities, the presence of minorities. i think some people on the rope consigned take advantage of that anxiety and it exacerbates our racial tensions. josh? >> i disagree with that last point but i agree of what he said before that. there's a political effort by institutions across this country to try to equate the background of what we are seeing to that incredible speech 60 years ago. i fight over voting rights with a georgia voting law. which they call jim crow 2.0. which obviously wasn't. there is a massive disconnect between recognizing the progress but also not fanning the flames of resentment and assuring they get to a point where we are trying to work through division. rather than trying to pull things apart and to often feels like recovering and talking about is exacerbating things that do not need to be

exacerbated. largely we are moving in the right direction. >> both of you have a lot that you're in agreement on. which is a good thing. as you said, moving forward there's more work to be done. i think everybody agrees with that. kevin cork cited in his piece on political fallout and some appalling that mears will be hearing in this political headline.it says pathetic is worth the use of talking to a group of voters. the focus group last make 8 men of color who voted for president joe biden in 2020 were asked to describe the feelings about the economy. the answers were bleak, once and dammit pessimistic said iii. francesca, a lot of them

say they were hoping for more action by this president doctor not seeing and they feel abandoned and unhurt by him. >> president biden will deliver a speech on monday evening in which he will hit on some of these issues such as the unemployment rate among black americans as well as his support for hpc use. his attempts to ignite student debt relief as well as other things such as voting rights. one challenge the president faces is between showing americans and convincing black americans that if reelected he would be able to advance more of these things he wants to do when there such congressional gridlock. allies of the president are encouraging him to draw a greater distinction on this between republicans. they're very concerned not only will black americans not turnout in as great of numbers in the next election but some of them could deflect to republicans. it's on the last presidential election that despite donald trump losing he built within black americans by 4 points. you could see more of that in the next election. >> so much of this goes back to the consternation over the economy the people don't feel like it's delivering. the president is making it the

centerpiece of his election campaign. western journal has this. they say according to bank of america's quarterly participant pulse report the cold hard truth is life is so expensive that many people are tapping into their retirement accounts to scrape by. the new york post reported on this and cost forever can americans cost them more than $8000 a year. regardless of what voting locket is people are concerned about the reality. >> we were first talking about this is the anniversary of the martin luther king i have a dream speech and it was a beautiful time for people to get together. we also need to recognize racism israel. it still exists. men are broken.jeremiah says the hearts deceitful and full of evil, who could know it? if we didn't recognize and i think the shooting in jacksonville it reminded us of that. we can start their agreement without point. the question isn't where do we go next? certainly this economy is not helping anyone. bernie sanders even recognizes that the democrats have lost

the working class. the losing black men because they want to be entrepreneurial start businesses and are having a very difficult time. really, i think the issue that if republicans want to win and want to win african-americans and working-class minorities they need to recognize the issue and speak more about the issue of school choice. 12 states now have now gone into school choice. for the money follows the kid. basically parents have a debit card. they can choose if it's a public school they want to go to. if it's a public school in a different subcode or they want to go to a private christian school or a catholic school. her homeschool and what is it that they want and what fits each individual kid? we recognize there are some places we can go that is

growing. 72 percent of the african-american saint they support that position. >> i hope we hear more about education in the conversations about the campaign trail. everyone wants to see where we could do battle. panel, to not go for. take a quick break. the winners and losers on the fox news channel just a month out for the republican candidates next face-off at the reagan library on foxbusiness. [music] alittwento innovates daily and our doctors teach at harvard medical school and the physicians doing the world-changing research are the ones providing care. ♪ there's only one mass general brigham.

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israel. you want to go, i'm can address each of those right now. [cheering] >> you have no foreign policy experience and it shows. >> former south carolina governor nikki haley has served as advisor to the un calling out fellow presidential candidate vic ramaswamy for there's credentials which he is defending. or back with a penalty talk about this. josh, one of the very heated moments of that night. i think a lot of people that government dissenters were tickled incoming. for vic was in the middle of every thing. >> everyone had a branch in our hands are going for ramaswamy. i thought that was most powerful exchanges.there's a massive difference between her for vic has been an foreign

policy, even donald trump's foreign policy has been over appeared of time within the republican party. she was strong. shaughnessy knows what she's talking about. when you get in her backyard to link with foreign policy she really delivers. i think that was a huge moment. i think mike pence interestingly controlled the pace of play in the whole second half of that debate. in a way i think far exceeded the expectations of people coming into that. he did everything he needed to do and more. on the ron desantis front everyone but a guest overcoming from him. he's clearly framed his campaign as the other. the alternative to the trump. they didn't treated that way. he was actually able to deliver the talking points he had worked through over the last couple must relate to the american people. probably millions for the first time. and that of itself i think that's a win for him. i think through those stood out clearly as big winners. >> i thought desantis was a most like he was doing a

placeholder. i didn't feel like you made any progress. the fact is that going and he was losing in terms of his standing in the polls. relative not only to donald trump who has a massive lead. also in terms of ramaswamy. and some the other candidates who have been coming up slightly. >> you got a remember on the one thing is just about the time you get tired of saying something is a first time anybody has ever come up. i think for this audience they haven't been on everybody's's trump speech. they got to hear what ron desantis is selling. his persuasive books i think vivek ramaswamy was lightning rod. the center of the 2 toothpick "washington post" bumps up. guess what he bumps up in terms of just favorable. his dis-favorables went twice as much as his just favorable state. a lot of people asking who is this guy. >> first off let me say i was

there. there's a lot of excitement in the room. a lot of cheering. sometimes stepping on the candidates lines because people are cheering so hard or billing for chris christie. i will say i concluded not surprisingly that any one of those people would be a better president than joe biden. you had 8 of the elite. you have 5 governors. you have an accountant, your former vice president and a couple of billionaires. although there are different opinions on who did the best, i don't think desantis hurt himself. certainly vic got more tension and now he will have to answer tough questions. what on earth was he saying about funding for israel? any republican a much on the science of republicanism regardless of where they are maybe there's a ron paul version that doesn't support israel. the vast majority do. i think he hurt himself there.

he will have a lot more scrutiny going forward. is a very bright guy. he will have to think through some things and listen to some of his advisors better. >> is getting attention for something he said on the radio this weekend. he talked about he voted libertarian in 2004. finney takes through he didn't find candidates aspiring didn't get involved with voting. then he went on to say i'm using the republican party as a vehicle to advance a pro-american america first agenda appeared taken out to the next level. francesca, a lot of people he was using that he voted libertarian. they went over he is out. >> he took a lot of heat on the stage. talk to most of the campaigns of the candidates on stage. it wasn't planned that they were going to go after him. it wasn't a strategy for most of them. >> didn't feel like he was going after people? >> the moments presented

themselves. for nikki elite the moment presented itself and she took opportunity to capitalize off of it. there are other moments that work plan like the back-and-forth between nikki haley and mike pence over abortion rights as well. a lot of what happened there is those moments were taking place and candidates capitalized off of them. my question is heading into the second debate is if ron desantis will get off as easily the second time if these candidates are looking at that saint, maybe we should focus our attention on him. team desantis, they're feeling good coming out of it. they think they have an entire month for him to focus on is reset. focus on his message before they have to get up on the debate stage again. >> one of the issues were there's a splint not only in the debates, the candidates on stage. the issue of ukraine funding. the white house is asking for billions more now and tying into a supplemental to domestic funding as well. i'm wondering what you think. the president was asked this weekend any chance you split those apart and he said none. >> house republicans are

frustrated that the white house sent this spending request while their recess. devon had a chance to fully go over it. both sides agree there will be a continuing resolution. there's not enough time to get back to be able to get through all the spending for the next fiscal year. whether this ends up being attached to it is mercury shannon. this isn't a situation we are not gonna see ukraine moving forward. it's not that dire. it may not be part of this upcoming bill. >> one, it quickly comes as all the spending bills to be fought over in september. >> for the vita demonstration and there's been bipartisan support. you think about mitch mcconnell. he's been a supporter less issue. lots of republicans and i think mike pence and secretary haley. they'll support it. there's got to be a sense that if you see ukraine to russia it's a victory not only for russia but for china. those are america's enemies. >> i talked to house members before i came on. their main issue is transparency.

they want to understand, where's it going ask that legislation hasn't made it across the finish line. there will be more of a push for that. panel, thank you very much. a breakthrough in medical technology is proven key and the war in ukraine. how the technology born in the us is saving lives there on the front lines. [music] >> it's been more than a year

and half since russia launched its brutal invasion of ukraine. us officials estimate in the time 70,000 ukrainian soldiers have died. more than hundred thousand additional have been wounded. the war has kicked battlefield medicine into overdrive.with new technology invented in the us. making its way to the front line of ukraine. former military surgeon is pitching in. jennifer griffin shares how it's contributed to saving lives in our sunday special. >> ukraine's front lines 80 percent of the wounds are dramatic brain entries or amputations. on this day in june doctor nikolai had just completed his third surgery when the air raid sirens went off. >> the air raid siren to need to go to the basement?

>> i'm in a safe place. >> every war leads to innovation. especially in battlefield medicine. young american nurse named florence anna gail cut her teeth during the 19th century crimean war. doctor nikolai's hospital is one of 5 in ukraine using a technology born in a north carolina medical lab. a new infection resistant artery not yet approved by the fda. >> this is a good size to repair most of the arteries in your body. >> laura nicholson is a head of humus height. i discovered this new technology. >> with implanted hundreds of patients in the us and outside the us and we've never had a single episode of rejection. >> perfect for war zone. >> the surgeon can pull out of the fridge literally restore blood flow immediately. that's a game changer. it means a lot of the soldiers can walk out of the hospital. >> doctor rocco served as us military's top neurosurgeon at

walter reed before retiring from the army. he says he wishes he had this technology while treating troops wounded in iraq and afghanistan.>> i led one of the nurse teams 20 years ago today in iraq or in the open desert for the first 6 months. were basically doing surgery the open field. >> he volunteered to go to ukraine's front lines. doctor andre circo ukraine's top neurosurgeon met him at the new pro train station. he did 19 brain surgeries in 4 days. >> the volume of casualties is anywhere from 5 ã10 times of what we saw in iraq and afghanistan. 20 years ago we were out the middle of the desert in iraq. we felt isolated.we felt abandoned. you felt forgotten. you can really relate to the way they must be feeling. there on the forefront of the fight for humanity. there on the forefront for the fight of democracy. >> if you think back to the history of that region we think

of florence nightingale, the crimean war. what struck you? >> possible is 2226 years old. it existed almost 7 years before the crimean war. they been doing this for long time. it's like poland in 1939. >> in ukraine doctor armando worked with the descendent of a famed postdoc general. we never lost a battle. that same fierce warrior spirit of zone today. >> they would do surgery then evaluate which patients they can then ship they would then move the patients to the train which is like a step out of world war i and world war ii people weren't whining or complaining. i raid sirens would go off at 3 in the morning you could hear bombs exploding. >> doctor armando invited to ukrainian dentist who before the war focused on teeth cleaning and veneers to visit walter reed to share what they have learned treating compact injuries to the face appeared. >> with her doing so putting faces back together. they're putting humanity back

together. when the patient recovers and looks in the mirror they see themselves as a full human being. >> every patient is a story. because i don't know. they are brave. >> doctor nikolai described a soldier who treated with ahima site artery. >> my nurse said he will not survive. looks after the operation he was in our icu for 3 days. then he became better. i said to him, you know this is your war. you should win. he said, yes doc, we could do it. >> the soldier was evacuated to hospital in keefe. >> then they got the first video when he started to walk.

>> it was miracles. >> ahima site vessel saved his leg. 2 months later the soldier returned to thank doctor nikolai. before returning to fight on the front lines. >> he came with both legs. i don't know. very cool eart. i think the guys are the best. were trying to do the best for patients. >> at the pentagon, jennifer griffin, fox news. >> some of these innovation in battlefield medicine ukraine may wind up back here in emergency rooms where they can save lives here at home. by the way the top ukrainian surgeon doctor andre circo received a very special honor. ukrainian president that america zelenskyy presented with the presidential award. starting 700 complex surgeries

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