all right. welcome back your turn to shine. now we need your help out there. we want to find out why your school is so cool as mentioned athletics, academics or anything that sets you apart. we'd like to hear about it and we just might come out and feature your school right here on ktvu fox to really easy to do. just email news tips at fox .com and tell us why your school is so cool. wanna thank you for joining us on this first edition of cool school? many more to come see you next time online and on the air. i'm frank mallicoat have a great day, everybody. >> shannon: i'm shannon bream. another natural disaster shines the spotlight on two political rivals in a test of their leadership. >> the nation has your back and we'll be with you until the job is done.

>> shannon: i'll focus on florida, as residents clean up from hurricane idalia. governor desantis and the president showing readiness as white house makes plea for more disaster aid. tied to a funding fight over more money for ukraine and the u.s. role there should be. hot topic on the campaign trail. we'll discuss it with former vice president mike pence only on "fox news sunday." then -- >> we will investigate. find out why did it happen. what went right and wrong. >> shannon: house republicans ramp up pressure on the president's response to the maui wildfire and the growing economic toll with top economic advisor jared bernstein. plus >> did you hear the question,

running for reelection in between the26. >> shannon: questions about mitch mcconnell. >> right now the senate is most privilege nursing home in the country. >> shannon: should there be an age limit for serving in washington? all right now on "fox news sunday." >> shannon: hello from fox news in washington. millions of americans work to recover from the impact hurricane idalia, there is finger pointing between a meeting between president biden and governor desantis that didn't happen. biden administration claims there was a mutually agreed on location and there was no

indication the governor would not be there. hello, lucas tomlinson. >> lucas: president biden toured a disaster zone, this time in florida. >> president biden: i told your governor, if there is anything your state needs, i'm ready to mobilize support. >> president biden speaking out touring the damage without ron desantis, who is an hour south in dixie county and kevin mccarthy was in hawaii conducting his own assessment in maui. desantis declined to meet biden with a second gop debate looming, rick scott played host. >> the president did a great job. it was a big deal. >> in live oak, biden was asked about the desantis snub. >> president biden: i am not

disappointed, he did help us plan this. fema chief has requested money to help maui rebuild. >> we are experiencing more severe weather than we've experienced before. >> critics slam biden for comparing his kitchen fire to the fire in maui. >> i almost lost my wife, my 67 corvette and my cat. >> when congress return from august recess, it could be forced to fund maui and florida relief and ukraine at the same time. the u.s. has given 175 billion. >> some want additional aid. shannon. >> shannon: thank you live from the white house. turning to someone in the 2024 race to be next to live at 1600

pennsylvania avenue. former vice president and republican presidential candidate mike pence. welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> thank you, shannon, good to be on. >> shannon: brand new polling has you in sixth place this morning and analysts say if majority or strong plurality of republican primary voters believe the lie the 2020 election was stolen, how can the man that certified it gain your support? why does he think the people who wanted to kill him will vote for him? why take on this fight when the numbers show no scenario where you can grab this nomination? >> i'm running for president because i think this is country is in trouble. joe biden has weakened america at home and abroad.

bidenomics has been a disaster and withdrawal from afghanistan embolden enemies of freedom around the world. i'm simply and i say with humility, most experienced, tested and proven conservative running. it is not what i'm seeing on the ground. ir spent last week in iowa, will be in new hampshire tomorrow. our canvassers in iowa have me running second in that state and tell us there is plenty of time between now and the iowa caucuses and we'll continue to take our message, my lifetime in the conservative movement and offer fresh vision for the republican party and for america. >> shannon: you got to share that on the first debate stage.

you had the most time and people are talking about the person who showed up there. quote a member of your administration saying where did that guy come from? how did you and when did you decide that version of mike pence versus the nice guy are going to show up? >> is one of my conclusions was i'm well known, not known well. during the administration whose record i'm proud of, i stood beside him through thick and thin and my oath required me to do otherwise. people who know me well know i've been a governor, i was a leading house conservative for 12 years and people know that i know how to make a point.

i know how to argue and to stand for the conservative agenda and we have important debate happening whether the agenda of strong national defense, right to life and traditional values or follow siren song of pop limp and move away from many of the same principles to agenda more moored to conservative values. i will continue to be a part of it. the version of me you saw in the debate stage is just me, shannon, that is who i have always been. i know how to fight for what i believe in. >> shannon: and it was especially with vivek ramaswamy. one area you have real

disagreement is foreign policy. start with israel. he said friday on his watch u.s. would fully back israel and added this. >> i've said i don't want our sons and daughters, u.s. troops to die in that conflict fchl they say i don't stand for israels, i am happy to have the debate. how many u.s. soldiers would they like to see die. i have not gotten a response. >> shannon: how do you respond to that comment? >> thank you. my son and my son-in-law. i don't have a problem with vivek ramaswamy, he's a good man and a good family man. he is wrong on foreign approximately, he wants to let putin keep what he grabbed in ukraine and make ukraine promises the way he is willing

to walk away from taiwan and let china grab it. this week when he said he would not use military force to defend israel in attack by iran, that is deeply troubling. israel is not an important ally, israel is our most cherished ally and we have to send a clear message to tehran that any move against israel will be met with full force of the american military thachl is how we keep israel safe and secure peace and we sent that message for four years during the trump-pence administration and the first new peace accord in 25 years. peace comes threw strength, if i'm president of the united

states, the world will know america stands with israel. >> shannon: he said the u.s. would fully back israel, but he asks how many u.s. soldiers you would be willing to see die there. do you think there is a role for us in middle east conflict? >> this is a pattern for vivek ramaswamy. i don't know how we fully back and then say that there is a limit to what our military involvement would be defending israel in an attack by iran. one thing i bring to the race, i've been consistent, stood for american leadership in the world. as governor, i stood strong and as vice president, i'm proud of our record, record that med

historic investments in the military. there is another plan that will layout a vision for not rebuilding military, although joe biden has been pushing budget cuts for military since day one. we have a vision for that and it is a way we do achieve peace through renewed american strength. >> shannon: one area of divide within the gop in washington is continued funding for ukraine. the white house asked for 24 billion to be committed, tying that to domestic aid, there is criticism that needs to be broken apart. mark offer on the hill wrote, he says he will not support monmouthy going to ukraine, he needs a clear direction from the

white house, what are the issue ms sticking? we can't continue with mounting expenses and escalating national debt. for you, where do you draw the line in measuring objectives in ukraine or saying no more u.s. tax dollars or depletion of our military involving china and taiwan? >> i want to agree with the congressman, president joe biden has done a terrible job explaining what natural interest is in ukraine. a lot of gauzy speeches about defending democracy. we need to continue to provide ukrainianian military resources to repel the russian invasion, i have no doubt putin will cross border of a nato country and we will be required under article

five to send our troops. i want to agree with him that this economy is struggling, i know you have another guest coming on and biden administration trying to make a case that bidenomics is working. nobody is buying bidenomics. i was in iowa this week and told people inflation is 40-year high and mortgage rates 22-year high. two out of three americans are living paycheck to paycheck and the time has come to offer vision for renewing the economy, tackling inflation. it doesn't mean we give up our role of the leader of the free world. anybody thats we can't be leader and get this economy moveing and secure the border and deal with all the issues, if you think we

can't do both, we can with right republican leadership in the white house. >> shannon: what is the measuring stick for where aid to ukraine begins and ends? >> joe biden says we're there as long as it takes. i will tell you, it shouldn't take that long. we're arsenal of democracy and biden administration has been providing support to military in drib and drab and recently approved transfer of f-16s and promised tanks in january and they are still not there. we need to provide resources and equipment, missiles and aircraft to repel the russian invasion in a more rapid pace than the biden administration has done and i will champion that. we are the leader of the free

world, if america is not leading the free world, joe biden has left a vacuum on the world stage that china and russia are working to fill. >> shannon: more topics to get to, hope you will come back. thank you for joining us. this labor day weekend, report card on bidenomics, we will talk about the president's top economic advisor, he will join us live and do a deep dive on inflation to skyrocketing credit card debt and why you at home are not feeling as optimistic as the white house thinks you should. will

>> shannon: the nation celebrates american worker tomorrow on labor day and new numbers offer good news, polls show majority of americans are unhappy with how inflation is eating into their wallets. joining us is chair of the white house economic aidvisors, jared bernstein. the polls are not good for you. it is making lives worse. you say stick around and wait for benefits. jason if you rememberan held the job you now have and said this, it is difficult to take a victory lap, a typical worker is $2000 behind compared with before the pandemic.

people are worse than before you took over. >> that is not the truth. >> shannon: is that wrong what jason says? >> he is a fine economiy real wages are up and higher for middle and low wage workers. >> shannon: for many months, they were up. >> wages are rising faster than prices. tell mike pence that june 2022 wants its talking point back. he talked about inflation at 40-year high, it is down two-thirds. it was 9.1, that is a stale talking point and it is down to 3% and certainly not ahead of wages, wages are beating inflation.

jason asked what was trend before pandemic and extrapolating that trend forward. he is not the only one to do that. it ignores the pandemic and leads to global inflation, ignores deep pandemic reduced recession and the war in ukraine and the impact on food prices. i got to live in real world and real wages are beating prices, that is a vehicle trend. >> shannon: good jobs report for august. truth is every month this year, the job be ins have been revised downward every month this year. that means jobs that we were told were not created, 30% did

not happen. is reality more in line with data than what you are trying to portray? >> two answers, people perceptions are not what i say they are. second of all, i don't think there is good way to massage the statistics and get you to another conclusion than we have a strong labor market. 13.5 million jobs. >> shannon: you guys know when we talk about 13 million jobs, the vast majority were added back from covid losses. we had strong job growth, that is not just covid. >> you will not find an economist who does not say this

is exemplary job growth. gdp is 2.1, a great growth rate. 187,000 jobs, that is great job growth. what we havish mr.ed is unusual. president said i want to maintain strong labor market and take down inflation. typically to get that inflation reduction, you have to see weakening in the labor market and we have not seen that at all temperature is contributing to consumer spend iing, which is strong. >> shannon: not without pain. north of 7 for mortgages and

first time buyers don't see how they will never buy a home. people sitting on homes because they are locked in. that is a trouble spot if people think they can't get into homeownership. >> vast majority of homeowners are locked in to well below 7%, that is key. our administration has deep agenda, increasing affordable housing. we have an income for the tax credit and talked about exclusionary zoning and something we are actively doing. we have programs associated with chips and inflation reduction act. tell us how you build affordable

housing near a transportation hub. we are getting take-up. this brings me back to something else. how people perceive the be ins, you give me your polls, let me give you numbers. 82% want to cap insulin cost and give medicare lower drug prices and 79% want more manufacturing jobs, 77% want to cap out of pocket on prescription drugs, all measures in place, components of bidenomics. so when americans tell you americans do not like bidenomics, it is false, they approve above 80% and are helping to do what president biden has long sought to do, build from middle out and bottom

up. >> shannon: a lot of things packed in there. talk about other numbers, average mortgage price people pay is double from when you took office, record of tril knowiodollars in credit card debt, people have blown through savings and are living paycheck to paycheck, is this bidenomics? >> average mortgage is not -- >> shannon: payment hasn't doubled? >> if people got new mortgage. 9 out of 10 people that have locked in mortgage is well below 7%, average mortgage has not gone up, most have not changed. >> shannon: talk about people getting into low income housing, if they can't afford 7%, they will not get into any house.

>> congressional democrats and republicans are there. i mentioned litec and we have grants and loans that increase supply of affordable housing and this involves purse strings. we have to do this in a fiscally responsible way. we have 150 billion for affordable housing. both sides have to work together to get there. >> shannon: something we have talked about today, funding request from the president involves 24 billion to ukraine, domestic aid tied to that, in maui, 4 to 6 billion range. a lot of consternination about the federal response and senator rubio is saying you are holding

americans hostage, why not split these two apart, why not? >> trying to address pressuring measures with this sup elemental. i'm an economist, i don't get why they are playing politics. i hear bipartisan support, some in your interview with mike pen pence, for helping people who have been hurt by weather events, that typically has support, same with support for ukraine. there is a group of republicans who can't get out of the way. help people who have been hurt. we know what people are going through, get out of the way and pass the sup elemental.

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>> any plan that does not include stopping the flow at the border is a failed plan. if national leaders are not stopping the flow, that is a failed plan. >> shannon: eric adams slamming

the white house, time for our sunday group, howard kurtz, marie harf, marc short, former chief of staff for former vice president mike and horace cooper. appreciate your time being here. eric adams says they are not stopping the flow at the borter, karine jean-pierre said we are stopping the flow at the border. families acrossing the border reach all- time high in august. the numbers tell us something elsz. >> you have a problem as administration, president biden

abandon old trump plsz, the numbers went down, now it is a giant albatross. people from cuba and haiti are fighting to come in legally. this is a difficult situation, everybody knows the border is a mess and blaming the imcumbent. >> shannon: trump-pence administration had to deal with this, as well, there are business leaders signing to letters, we have to do better. governor kathy hochul has been critical. the president did not meet with her. >> there are democrats along the border expressing concern about the flow. there is focus on the border

wall for good reason. most impathful policies because we're overwhelmed with asylum seekers, stay in mexico and if you get cleared, come in, not until then. when the biden administration overturned that policy, it led to this disaster. >> shannon: there are signatures from jamie diamond saying we urge you to get things under control at the border. they say as long as chaos stayed and crisis stayed in south texas, democrats in new york, chicago and los angeles were happy to hit anyone who claimed there was a problem at the border. shelters are beyond capacity and neighborhoods and now they want something done about it.

>> fact so many migrants are apprehend said is a good thing, batter patrol is trying to find people trying to cross illegally. democrats represent state and border district, there is not agreement republican performance should take the day. republicans are seen tougher, on the ground democrats win the ballot box. this is a crisis, a problem, biden administration knows that, democrats beyond administration talk about that. republicans are so extreme, when you have ron desantis saying he would take military action in mexico to go after this issue, that is not a serious policy. biden team will say this is a hard problem, we need congress to act but republicans are not

talking about real policiless here, leaders donald trump, ron desantis, vivek ramaswamy, this highlights extremism. >> shannon: those candidates say they talk about the policies and what they will do. >> they are. september 11th is around the corner if rudy giuliani had been saying i am worried, there are serious threats we face by foreign nationals that could assault our country, he didn't make that claim, he was not aware. we have mayors now making concerns that record number of foreign nationals identified as national security risks are coming in. if we were to have god forbid, some sort of attack that is

result of this, you would not see what george bush saw where he gained in the upcoming midterm election control of the u.s. senate and easily ran for reelection, you would see devastation politically. harm and political risk, this is where this is going right now. >> shannon: these are real families and real people caught in this thing. meanwhile, administration is taking criticism for how it responded to various disasters. this is from ohio senator vance, and why president has not gotten to east palestine yet. >> donald trump showed up in

east palestine and joe biden never did. >> i haven't had the occasion to go to east palestine, there is a lot going on here. >> presidents can't be anywhere, but to pronounce the town correct doesn't play well. >> he's been on vacation for quite a bit of august. it is a black mark on the administration they have not visited there. as well the crisis we're talking about at the border is horrific crisis and talking about fentanyl to families in america and everybody knows a child, a young person who died from fentanyl, it needs to be addressed and cannot be ignored >> shannon: do you think the process will hone in on the fact he has not made it to ohio?

>> he just revived the issue by bringing it back up. it has been so long. when presidents go, i'm glad he went to maui and florida, not that they will change the policy, the president is showing he cares. you cannot disrupt efforts, there was five days biden didn't talk about it at all. he is widely described as man of great empathy, he needs to use that more and get on air force one and show the administration is doing everything to help victims. >> shannon: is that fair? optics count for a lot. >> optics do count for a lot, biden is known as empathizer and

chief and they say he was comforting and supportive whachl they need is federal disaster relief from washington and federal fund for that is running out of money because we have so many natural disaster, many prompted by increasing climate change. we are running out of money. when the president goes there, he can bring money to help rebuild communities. he's asked congress for billions more to refinance the disaster relief fund. not to pick on ron desantis, he voted against that funding and now he needs it. republicans vote against it until they need it. interesting part of this funding fight, how much money do we have for places like maui and

florida. >> biden gave him a pas and didn't criticize it. >> you are right. >> shannon: desantis, many other things are tied up in packages and now we have it tied to ukraine and there are people like senator rubio in the middle of florida saying you are holding americans hostage when you say you give me 24 million for ukraine. >> my old army used to say caring about people is key to washington, if you can fake that. >> shannon: i was going to say, i'm not sure -- >> this president hasn't been even faking it, he doesn't go through the motion and american people can tell. this juxtaposition of ukraine and american domestic is exact worse mixture possible.

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drdr dr. makary wrote a piece in "wall street journal," there are no human outcome data on the new shot, expected to approve in next two weeks. he notes 20% of americans took the last booster and millions of doses had to be thrown away. not sure people know it is not being tested on humans. >> the data is concentrated. my doctor in virginia told me his patients are taking it. in texas, i can't find a person taking it. this construct where in washington everybody knows this is what you are supposed to do and it is normal, there are

americans that wonder why aren't we following normal protocol and doing the things that give ass assurance and that may explain why people are taking it. >> shannon: and dr. fauci is talking about this, chatter about new cases and shot and mask mandates and here is what he said yesterday. >> people need to realize it is extremely unlikely you will see a mandate from the cdc which has no authority to mandate masks, can only recommend it. >> shannon: skeptics say cdc only recommend things, that meant mandate on shots and all kind of things and have fallen out of love with the cdc. >> that is putting it mildly. i can't believe we are still talking about covid.

as far as masks or lock downs or mandates, consensus has radically moved and there is feeling these were failures by and large. i don't think we will see any rationale politician say we're going to order this, you have to take the shot and get a mask or you can't go to work or school, that would be political suicide. >> shannon: we track and see. make sure we get to this topic. senate is back in session and saw mitch mcconnell had a public episode raising concern about his health. his doctors he is fine. nikki haley is talking about him and other lawmakers in d.c. >> it is sad, no one should feel good about seeing that anymore than seeing dianne feinstein or a lot of what is happening or

seeing joe biden's decline. what i will say right now senate is most privileged nursing home in the country. >> shannon: both parties is prominent senior members and questionless about ability to do job. >> i had covid for 18 days this month, it was not mild or fun. get updated vaccines, we are in middle of a surge is because of vaccine, i will say that having lived through covid recently. i don't think we will ever get term limits or constitutional amendments. i don't know where people are, their families and spouses, other members of leadership and their party. it is sad to see what people

like mitch mcconnell, dianne feinstein, we have worked with folks over the years, there is something to be said. they know how to get bills passed and work with the other side. it is sad when you see the politicians who don't look like they are operating full strength. we need more transparency. joe biden's side puts out physicals from his doctors. dianne feinstein, i agree, as well. >> shannon: senate leaders are chosen by party colleagues in best position to judge mr. mcconnell's continuing abilities, if they think mcconnell can be effective leader, he should stay on the job. >> i agree, reality is there is mechanism there, senate republicans can choose their own leader. i don't think mitch mcconnell situation is comparable to the

severe dementia dianne feinstein is struggling with age, i look forward to nikki haley calling for grassley to retire soon. >> shannon: 89 and still going strong. politicians don't like to give up power. "washington post" opinion piece is calling out lawmakers, press secretary said it is hard to keep up with this president, line she uses a lot temperature is difficult to believe karine jean-pierre who is in good health and in her 40s is having hard time keeping up with biden, maybe s should see a doctor, to. >> this conversation makes me think in washington, d.c. we need a crypt keeper instead of

someone checking to see if someone is healthy or not. we are looking at the oldest senate we have seen in 100 plus years and president who is oldest president ever. i'm not saying we need a rule or constitutional amendment, but in a nation this large with this many type of people with skills, can't we get people in office who bring vibrancy. >> shannon: we also lost a couple ledgends this weekend. governor bill richardson, jimmy buffet, governor richardson was a shock and his team after governor won him accolades. >> negotiating to get americans

home safe and sound. he did hard work of diplomacy, what a tragedy, sad when i saw that. >> shannon: and shocked to hear jimmy buffet was as sick as he was. yeah, we have no margaritas for this part of the discussion. >> shannon: that is my fail, we should have. >> everybody knows his songs and his voice. what surprised me, he became fabulously wealthy as he packaged this franchise about beach lifestyle, key west, taking it easy and got to the point he worried he was no lo longer jimmy buffet. he tried to stay in touch with his roots. >> shannon: he's given us anthem

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>> shannon: quick note my podcast drops new this morning, i sat down with dr. jackie green. talking about shou she juggling it all with god's great, her new book "permission to live free." hear today's program on fox news podcast. don't miss the best moments on "fox news sunday," set your dvr. be sure to tune in next week, we have a special state of education in america, we'll do a report card on the nation's school system in the midst of plummeting test scorings in the classroom. hear from parents, teachers and

kids. our guests include virginia governor glenn youngkin who is at the forefront of the education debate, he joins us next week. that is it for today, i'm shannon bream, have a great week. we will see you for the next show. "your world with neil cavuto" labor day weekend.

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