you think. we really appreciate it peter hamby is going with us next week in honor of the globes. he's great. we leave you with hollywood nights by bob seger. uh, for the hollywood nights ahead. uh, chris, thanks for being here. we'll see you all next time for more of the issue is great job, chris. thank you. all those big city ghts ♪ ♪ >> shannon: i'm shannon bream. tensions over record number of migrants ratcheting up the new year. as officials around the country point fingers over who is to blame for overwhelmed cities across the u.s. ♪ ♪ >> it is outrageous that they are saying that they cannot deal with this. >> shannon: pressure growing to fix the record inflicts into the

country. of the face-off between red and blue america reaching a boiling point. >> what governor abbott has done, he just wants to create chaos. >> shannon: but is common ground possible. >> i reached out to governor greg abbott. >> shannon: we will speak with texas governor greg abbott and denver ma mayor mike johnston. inside the washington beltway. >> house republicans themselves voted to decrease the amount of border patrol agents by 2,000. >> instead of providing leadership, this administration has done nothing but attack elected officials. >> shannon: little sign of working anything out between white house and congress as a government shutdown looms. >> no more money for this bureaucracy until you have brought this border under control. >> shannon: a group of bipartisan senators comes forward to try to work something out. we will speak with the gop's

lead negotiator, oklahoma senator james lankford. and president biden hits the stop. >> president biden: trump's assault on democracy is what he is promising. >> he says that on that for democracy. he is bad for democracy for another reason. he is incompetent. >> shannon: we will get our sunday panel's take for 2024. right now on "fox news sunday." ♪ ♪ hello, for fox news in washington, first of the highest single month of illegal crossings in u.s. history, the pressure to pass sweeping border security reforms attached to israel and ukraine gears up. as the clock ticks towards a potential government shutdown. republicans who have long called for taylor porter restrictions have found unlikely support from blue city mayors calling on the white house for swift action. to address the surge of migrants in their cities.

as their areas become overwhelmed with boxes full of people being transported to their cities by border state republicrepublicans. in a moment, we are going to start with two leaders at the center of this the patriots is recovered -- texas republican governor greg abbott and denver mayor mike johnston. we turn to stacy steagall. hello. >> reporter: a new year has struggled with new activity on the front lines of this escalating crisis. migrants climbed through the border wall this week in blue hill, arizona after cartels cut a hole in the steel structure. while in eagle pass, texas, hundreds continue to illegally cross and turn themselves in. >> just waiting to be arrested knowing full well if they are arrested and claim political asylum, they will be processed until their case is heard. >> reporter: more than 302,000 migrant encounters were recorded

at the southern border last month. that is roughly the entire population of pittsburgh. >> every state and city in this country is a border state. >> reporter: mike johnston led a delegation to eagle pass where they put pressure on democrats o reach a deal on immigration restrictions. while on the ground, johnston also made this prediction about the 2010 for election. >> i do believe in large member because it does measure because of this issue, i think we are going to have a change in the white house. i think we're going to win the senate. >> reporter: the administration shot back, accusing the gop of standing in the way. >> we have house republicans that's literally blocking the republican party -- president's effort. they are playing political games. >> reporter: all eyes will be on washington with dhs secretary alejandro mayorkas facing an impeachment inquiry on wednesday but first he will travel back down here to eagle pass for

another operational visit scheduled for tomorrow. shattenkirk. >> shannon: you will have is covered on that, casey stegall, thank you, casey. joining us now, greg abbott, governor, welcome back's to try to. you know we got the lead negotiator for the gop and the senate coming up. the senator jeng -- james lankford. he says they are pushing for policy changes. what is the number one thing you would tell senator lankford you need to get the border under control? >> we need to stop the magnet that is enticing people to cross our border illegally coming from more than 150 countries across the entire globe. and the way that you do that is to deny asylum to anybody crossing between a port of ent entry. if you have a valid asylum claim, you can go to one of the support of entries of which we have 29 just in the state of texas alone. you must make them seek asylum

from either the country they are fleeing or from mexico or some of the safe country to go into. that would dramatically cut down on the number of people that you see coming across the border every single day. the same thing that must be done is they must end the catch and release policies that the biden administration has put into place. the law already prohibits the mass allowance of people getting out and wandering the country for years before they ever have to go to court. the biden administration is not enforcing that. they must hold the biden administration responsible and deny them the ability to have catch and release. >> shannon: governor, are you in talks with the biden administration, with the white house at all? >> shannon, you know this. have provided eight letters to the biden administration in which includes the president and

mayor lucas and i personally handed a letter to president biden and to secretary mayorkas when they showed up in el paso, texas, outlining five things that they could do that would eliminate the crisis at the border. shannon, in response to all eight of those letters, i have heard absolutely nothing from the biden administration. >> shannon: okay, you have heard from new york city where the mayor there has announced a lawsuit. he says the tens of thousands of people that have been blessed invite you to his city, it is overwhelmed and so they have announced his lawsuit this week that is against the best companies that brought the people there. they are citing this new york law that says that anyone who causes to be brought a needy person from out of the state into the state for the purpose of making him a public charge is going to be guilty of a misdemeanor. they talk about fines and it goes on to say they have to support them at their own expense. so they are suing these 17 best companies for more than $700 million. you are not a party to this but do you worry that this is an

attempt to shut down companies that would do business with the state of texas and scare away other companies from do that? and will you get involved at all with the defense illegally with these companies? >> for one, there's no worry whatsoever. one, the joke, it is really apolitical statement by the mayor of new york. you talked about what the purpose was of that statute on the face of the statute alone, it is not purpose. why the prices are moving people to new york city. second, what the mayor did, that mary sued the wrong party. if that mirror really is trying to cut down on the number of illegal immigrants coming into new york, he needs to be suing joe biden, is not this best companies, because it is joe biden and joe biden's policies that is causing the massive multimillion influx to the united states that leads to many of them wanting to go to new york. the third thing i will tell you and that is the lawsuit is completely legally baseless and

the mayor is going to lose very badly for this very specific reason and that is everybody who is best to or planed to new york is already authorized by the biden administration to be winning those within the united states illegally. they have the legal right to travel wherever they want and lawsuit by the mayor violates the in our states constitution's and several respects and the mayor is going to lose and lose badly and i hope he is forced to pay the legal fees for the cost of anybody having to defend against that lawsuit. >> shannon: that is just one of the many lawsuits will be tracking with contraction of what is happening in the border. the doj is also suing you for a law that you passed that would allow police officers and law enforcement to arrest people who are in the state of texas after crossing in illegally from mexico and even gives some state officials the ability to remove or to deport them. but what the doj is reporting to

-- they are pointing to what the supreme court did, in case i covered back in 2012 when arizona had a similar state law. they shut it down. they said essentially that the purview of immigration and handling the border is left to the federal government and states can't get involved here. what is your argument for overturning that precedent with this law? >> three arguments to make sure that we're going to win that case. but first i got to point after this is just one of many lawsuits that joe biden is violent against the state of texas. they filed to eliminate the buoys that we put in the order that would deny illegal entry into the state of texas. we are in the middle states supreme court right now where joe biden is making a nested supreme court to allow the border patrol to cut the more than 100 miles of razor wire that we put up that denies illegal entry into the state of texas. and now they are suing to stop this new law that i signed. this law was crafted in a way to ensure that it was going to be

constitutional. first, it is drafted in the way that does not comp -- conflict with federal law. arizona law did conflict with federal law in. the state of texas law does not conflict with federal law. that is one reason why we will avoid the preemption allegation made by the federal government. the second one is preemption does not apply because the federal government is refusing to enforce the laws passed by congress because they are not enforcing the laws passed by congress. the law that we passed simply enforces the laws passed by congress. the third reason why the texas case is different than the arizona case is we are relying upon pinching ourselves under article four, section four, and article one, section 10 of the nets state constitution that authorizes texas to do this. >> shannon: you talk about that texas is not taking over what the feds would be doing. but they essentially say they are. if you're going to arrest people

in texas for being here illegally, then that is their purview when it comes to deciding who to deport and how to handle immigration and the border. they said there is a direct crossover with what texas is doing. >> well, shannon, listen, you and i are both lawyers. you know what i talk about. hopefully we will not lose the audience here. but they rely upon what is called field preemption. and what that means is that the laws passed by congress to preempt the field or the totality of the ability for states to do something different. however, that field preemption that the federal government is relying upon presumes that the federal government will be enforcing the law passed by congress. and in this case, the federal government is not enforcing the laws passed by congress. in fact, they are acting contrary to the laws passed by congress. that creates the opening for texas to be able to enact a law that simply enforces the very same laws passed by the united

states congress. >> shannon: alright, well, governor, i will track that. we will see if it winds up here at the supreme court does. we are tracking the razor wire case, too. governor, thank governor, thank you for your time. joining us now, then for a democratic mayor mike johnston. welcome to "fox news sunday." >> thank you so much for having me. >> shannon: let's start here. texas has sent tens of thousands of people, bust them to denver. you have talked about how overwhelming it is there. we will get into some of the things that you are requesting. but there's a word now that denver is also giving people a one-way ticket to places like chicago, like new york, those mayors have said we can't take people. we are overwhelmed. knowing the string you got there in denver, why then send people to these other cities as well? >> sure, sharon. one thing. listened to the governor. spork what he has talk to our newcomers. it is important to understand these stories and these are folks almost all from venezuela. they have walked 3,000 miles

taken probably three or four months. many of them are women with kids. these are professionals. these are school principals and engineers and when i talk to a police officer who refused to teargas people in her own country and so was threatened to be killed by her stay and so she fled. these are the definition of what the statue of liberty says, send us your huddled masses. those are the stories we see every day and they are tragic. at the same time, i understand governor abbott's point break we agree, noa bronstein or no one city should be expected to carry the entire weight of this arrival but these are human beings with real suffering going through incredible feats to get here. what we have as many folks that arrive in denver who had no intention of arriving in denver, it never meant to go to denver. they do have family in the united states. they have a friend who has a job at a place to stay and they were trying to get to a chicago or a los angeles or a nevada. if they were sent to denver, that we help them arrive at the city where they were trying to arrive and other cities do the same with us.

and we think that is the way to set them up for success, especially if don't have work authorization in the city where they are arriving. >> shannon: you talked about work permits. i want to talk about something. when biden tells migrants do not come to the u.s. and then creates a magnet like work permits, it undermines all the returns. so do you agree with those who would say that reality is millions of people will be encouraged to take dangerous illegal journeys to the u.s. if they believe once they get here they will be able to work and if you did get those permits there, in denver, are there really tens of thousands of open jobs that these folks could fill? >> there are, shannon. the tragic part is i talk to migrants who looked to me and say, mr. mayor, i have strong hands. i have a big back. i have a big heart and i just want to work. and i have ceos who call me and say, we have hundreds of open jobs, restaurants, hotels, a landscape, construction, all

of these industries are massively understaffed and ceos want to be able to hire those people and there's nothing more american than looking a hard worker in the face and saying, please, please, don't work here in america. that is the opposite of what these individuals want and what we want and i don't want to does to be the want to tell them not to work? >> shannon: do you think it is, where the restoration will say don't come and then when they get this message, of course, there's an economic opportunity here. they will come regardless of their's legal status when they get here. >> i think it is absolutely in the purview of the car was to what they want their initial policy to be based on what we think our capacity is. we have far more open jobs right now that we have arrivals. i think what we know is this works if you coordinate that entry. if you have cities and states that collaborate the same way we did when we brought in refugees from ukraine or refugees from afghanistan, we identified cities that had capacity. we've parked them in with work authorization. we give them some federal

support. the great untold story here is the city of chicago has more ukrainian asylum-seekers who arrived in the last year than venezuelans. they all have work authorization. they have jobs. they are contributing because they have the infrastructure. i'm actually hopeful that this is really a solvable problem. and i think that we can solve it. it just takes us working together to do it. >> shannon: in chicago, a lot of the local residents there have started to speak out at very heated meetings and public events saying they cannot manage this, that the city is being overwhelmed. their schools, their parks, their shoulders, people are very angry with leadership there because it is in the -- i know for you in denver, you have said this could impact 10 to 15% of your budget in the next year, $180 million to try to care for people in a responsible and humane way. what do you then tell the taxpayers in denver about what is going to get cut in order for that to happen? >> i agree with you, shannon. it is unsustainable in the current structure when we have

30 or 40,000 people arriving without work authorization, without federal support. it is going to be a huge strain on cities. but it does not mean we can't solve it because we could solve it if we actually had work authorization for folks who came, if we had resources at the border so that you could educate these asylum claims faster. we have folks whose court dates is 2029 because the courts are so backlogged. if he could put capacity at the border to administer these asylum claims, decide who has a valid claim and then send them to interior cities with work authorization, even while they are waiting to hear that claimant. we could put them to work. we can solve this. there's a direct relationship to. the more authorization, they less federal resources they give us. if you sent us some into denver who has to wait six years for a court hearing and they, work in the meantime, we will need support. i don't think that is what i don't think that is what we want or the federal government wants. >> shannon: and this will attract apparently millions more people and as you said, trying

to humanely care for them is a whole 'nother child's. in denver america mike johnston, thanks for your time. >> thanks for having me. >> shannon: outraged building here in washington over an extraordinary breach of protocol. the pentagon waiting three and a half days to tell the white house that defense secretary lloyd austin was hospitalized in intensive care and even longer to tell congress and the public. we are going to get reaction from joe senator james lankford. he is live next. ♪ ♪ number one broker here for the number one hit maker. -thanks for swinging by, carl. -no problem. so what are all those for? uh, this lets me adjust the base, add more guitar, maybe some drums. -wow. so many choices. -yeah. like schwab. i can get full service wealth management, advice, invest on my own, and trade on thinkorswim. you know carl is the only front man you need. (phone rings) oh, i gotta take this, carl. it's schwab. schwab. (feedback rings) have a choice in how you invest with schwab.

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>> shannon: defense secretary lloyd austin says he takes full responsibility for not disclosing to the white house and the public that he had been hospitalized in intensive care for days following complications

from an elected procedure. the white house on the news -- news thursday. congress and the public did not find out until friday. in a statement, austin says, "i recognize i could have done a better job ensuring that the public was appropriately informed. are committed to doing better. the pentagon press association that invited the public has a right to know when he was captain members are hospital hospitalized. as the nation's top defense leaders secretary austin has no claim to the privacy in this situation. joining me now to take about that and much more, senator james lankford of oklahoma. senator. senator crapo come to. you said on the intelligence committee. when did you get word on this? do you think you should have known more sooner? >> a guard word of this usually when the news started breaking. it is pretty shocking on this when you are the secretary of defense, you need to make everyone aware that you are actually going to be -- it is rest and then he did not notify the white house. everyone else that he was working from home during that time period when he was actually

hospitalized and his number two was on vacation and not available as well. even, apparently the national security council did not know it. the white house did not know it. congress did not know it. a lot of turmoil especially. more than just a matter of was not there actually sent over false information, saying, i'm working at home, when he is not actually available at all. that is a whole different issue. >> shannon: he says he takes responsibility. so i'm sure there will be mornings -- many more questions to come up. in the meantime, you have day after day after they've been involved in negotiations on what is happening with the reported deal. the administration says it meets those needs more money. republicans have been pushing for policy change. can you tell us, are you getting to substantive changes that will actually mean something at the border? and when will we see something more? >> we are hoping to get it later on this week. nothing has been done in this area for decades. as you know full well, the biden administration has authorities they are choosing not to use. even during the trump administration, they struggled in certain years because they

are limited in some of the authorities that are there. so there's a desperate need and change in the way we handle asylum and the process we actually do for asylum. we need to end catch and release. we need more bed space. we need more people to be able to process. we got to fix the process as well. so is not just a dollars issue. it is the house and the senate republicans have been very upset. the white house continues to say, if you sent is more money, we will fix it, when money has been sent to the white house and they use that money to facilitate more people coming into the country. let's change catch and release. let's change the way we are handling asylums so that folks that are just gaming the system will be able to be here for a decade before their hearing is done, they are actually turned around the league. >> shannon: so maybe this weekend. >> hopefully this week to be able to get that out. everyone will have time to read and go through it. no one is going to be jammed in this process. but it is a matter of trying to get this out.

to make law, we have to have a democratic senate and democrat white house and a republican house to be able to get through this. this agreement has to work. everyone is counting on this working. but it will have to be an agreement that is a democrat white house and then, send it with a republican house and we are working to for the needle for things that actually work. >> shannon: it sounds like it is going to be a very difficult thing to accomplish. speaker johnson who was at the border this week and took dozens of house lawmakers, there were reports that he is thinking about negotiating directly with the white house but how will that impact what you are doing? and is the greater concern that even if you get a deal done in the senate, it can get to the house gop, where you have some folks over there making some very concrete domains of what it is going to take to get their vote? >> i would say the speaker should always be engaging with the white has. that should be the basic role of the speaker to be able to negotiate with the what has. i was the house has not been heard. it has a very strong bill. that led laid out principles and

here is how to resolve the issues. there was not a single democrat that further for that. the house has put out, this is what actually fixes everything. now the speaker has to be able to sit down with the white house and to be able to work out how we're going to be able to get there but that is the same thing we are doing as the senate to work, how we are going to get republicans and democrats onboard. something that actually makes a difference on our border and to be able to get it passed in the house, if you can pass this in the days ahead in the senate and send it over the house, the house can work to improve it or that house can look at it and say, make real progress on the border. let's go get this and keep going for more. >> shannon: okay, how much of the border concerns you when it comes to the national security interest and with that in mind, second mayorkas, we are told, is heading back down there again. he is also facing impeachment in the house. do you think he is doing a good job? do you support what the house is doing with respect to impeachment? >> al woods tell you at this point, i don't think anyone sees that it is going well at the

border. and what that looks at the border and says that is being handled well. secretary mayorkas is working with the president of nine states and these are the president's policies. president jim had a consistent set of policies but he had four different sectors of homeland security but the policy was consistent on the border. regardless of homeland security, because he had a set of policies but these are the broader policies. so the problem is president biden's policies o on the border could not mayorkas. this is a big national security issue as you mentioned before. we have had literally tens of thousands of people just in the past year that this administration has labeled as a national security risk. they were given the designation of special-interest aliens. that definition is there an initial security risk. and then they were released into the country into this decade-long backlog. that is a terrible idea to be able to do. so not only do we have individuals that are coming into the country that don't qualify

for asylum, all of us know they don't qualify for asylum and they are just being released in the country. there's a backlog. we also know that there are people that are national security risk and have been labeled by this white house as this that are being released in the country and we literally have no idea where they are. >> shannon: okay, with that in mind, secretary mayorkas says he has been advising your group. i don't know if you have been meeting with him or having conversations. but how does he respond to the information? >> he is not actually doing the policy. he is actually providing what is called technical assistance in when we are negotiating things out. at times, we have to go back to homeland security and say, how does this actually work on the ground? we are driving the policy issues. but we are reaching out to go to, technical assistance in the process as well. i would tell you he has said several times, give me more authorities and i will take this on. at this point, we are going to test it out and try to make sure because the biggest thing we can do is actually try to have mandates in this and we actually enforce the border and to be able to take on the issue of how

we actually handle asylum again because this has been a big problem now for over a decade. it does not get better by doing nothing. it gets better by doing something congress has to pass something and for -- after decades of doing nothing in this, we got to pass something to make this better. >> shannon: and this is all tied to the bigger package for the white house wants for israel. we're looking at a potential government shutdown living against this backdrop. yourther negotiator on this is them, chris breece. the senator has said this. the fate of the world is at stake in these talks. he tweeted this on christmas day. it is, republicans -- up to republicans in congress if this is a last christmas in a free ukraine. the fate of the world, is that how this feels to eat? >> there's a lot that is all tied up into this. the president put together a request for national security and then a request for israel, ukraine, what is happening in the indo-pacific, more aggressive china and then also border security. at the same time, he said, we just need funds for all that.

we responded back and said, we understand the funds for israel. we understand the parts into one, the funds in ukraine. but this is not a pending issue. this is a policy issue and we are demanding a real change in policy. we are engaging to be able to help the rest of the world. we are the role model for the world of freedom. we understand that engagement as we are as the road states of america. but we also have a responsibility to protect our own country. we're going to do that. >> shannon: senator, thank you for the update. we will watch out for that. appreciated your time. gop presidential candidates make their cases. ahead of the state's critical first in the nation caucus is as president biden and triple h say the other one is the dire threat to democracy. our sunday panel, where the race stands, they are alive, next. ♪ ♪

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there? >> reporter: they are excited to get out of there. we are just eight days away from the first in the country our caucuses. it is officially crunch time for these candidates and look, we're going to point out through these polls actually match reality. and these candidates are making their final push. >> people of the state are going to kick has the most important vote of your entire life. >> reporter: the blitz is on on in the hawkeye state. >> i'm running for your family's issues. >> the energy on the ground is good. people want something new. >> it is not the right vision. >> reporter: time is running out for these gop presidential candidates to make their pitch before our voters make their choice on january 15th. former president trump maintains a huge lead in the polls. in the target on his back is getting bigger. >> when it comes to trumka she can call me anything. never raised attacks. but why don't we ask him, oh,

that is right, he will get on the debate stage. >> i'm the only one running that has delivered on 100% of the promises that he has made. as governor, wouldn't it be nice to have someone who was doing that again? >> reporter: biden and trump is targeting president biden, calling him a threat for democracy during a campaign speech. >> president biden: he is willing to sacrifice our democracy. >> he runs out of fuel. the field is not last very long. you notice the speeches, they start off very energetic. he is a threat to democracy. by the end, he is like, i got to get off. this is not the man we should have for our president. >> reporter: and governor desantis seem to slam shut the idea that he would be anybody's vp candidate. he said he would not accept a vp position, "under any circumstance" because he feels he will not be able to get the job done as vp that he's been campaigning on. he said it it came to that, he

would finish out he's -- his term as florida governor. we will say back to you. >> shannon: you rarely hear that. promotion live. thank you. it is time for our sunday group. former democratic presidential candidate and congressman john delaney. josh holmes, former chief of staff to mitch mcconnell. we got the two josh is back together. happy new year. so let's start there. we had the speech from president biden on friday which was very dark and harken back to some other speeches he has given. i am here to save democracy and freedom. it does not work because we see -- who is like, bring it on, you are the real threat to democracy. >> look, shannon, it is a throwback to the successful 2020 campaign message from then-candidate joe biden. he was going to save the soul of america. and it was -- a look at the polls. you see that issue of democracy. january 6th.

it is one of the few issues frankly the democrats are -- have an advantage on any come to democracy and the fundamentals of democracy. the challenge, though, is that biden is now the incumbent. he is a record that he has to defend. trump is the counterpart he is out of office. so voters, are a lot more about the border. they care about the economy. they care about a lot of the issues where biden has a record on and they are not viewing the white house favorably on these other issues. it is going to be a -- an issue. it is an winning issue for them. but there are a lot of bread and butter issues that voters care a lot more about. >> shannon: and the president is going to move on to south carolina and speak there. is how the philadelphia inquirer puts it. the church there in charleston next week, biden expected to call out white supremacy along with the assault on the nation's capital on january 6th. while make an appeal to black voters whose support for biden has decreased in polls compared to 2020. biden is also losing support among hispanic and young voters.

what has he got to do in that speech. >> somebody can win this election. but it is not going to be with hope and optimism. i think the early first two speeches show how he intends to run the campaign. he has a record that the american people don't believe in and when you have that set of circumstances, eager to figure out how to bring a -- an opponent down to where you are at. so he has got to try to provoke anything he can to get a base of support, some energy and has shown very little at this point. and he has to try to figure out what unites. and 2020 and 2022, as josh said, he had some success and convincing sarah white to suburban electorate that this guy is not donald trump is a danger and is a threat. whether or not that actually takes the precedent over how they fulfill the economy or whatever, it remains to be seen. he does not have a lot. this might be the only one he has got. >> shannon: president bid obamas

worried about what is going on. he said former president barack obama has raised questions about the structure of the president's election campaign and he was "animated" in discussing the election of the potential return to power. john, is the white house missing some opportunity here to campaign in a different way? do you think they are taking donald trump seriously? >> i think they are taking donald trump seriously. i think the president's like about these issues. not only because they are good for him politically. he did win the election in 2020. precisely on these issues. so we have a ride to the to show that -- road map to show that they were. the president understands that the united states is much more than lines on a map. and help those he believes that in his corporate he is right to talk about these issues. he is the steward of our democracy and we are on the anniversary of january 6th, a terrible, dog day in our nation's history. and he is right to be out there

reminding people what the stakes are and why it is important that we continue to strengthen our democracy and we continue to have a leader who actually cares about these issues. he also is going to run on the record. part of the president of his job is to make sure all the democrats get back on the same page. if you look at the president's poll numbers, some of his numbers are soft because of democrats who think that maybe he has not done enough on different issues et cetera. they will come home as he continues to reiterate how successful his administration has been across the last three years. >> is there going to be a lack of enthusiasm over some of these issues? that they just don't show up and that is the biggest concern right now. >> we have all seen those polls. we know the democrats are concerned that biden may be lacking that enthusiasm the democrats in particular really depend on when it comes to these important general election issues. they need young people to turn out and vote. they need racial minorities to turn out and vote and these are the areas where we are seeing

people start to lose faith in president biden. and i think we are starting to see really for the first time the strategy that the biden campaign is trying to make, that we know that they see their successful issues being democracy and dobbs, of course, you know, can bring to june 6 narrative, cowering trump antidemocratic language sometimes and also of course abortion they see as another key issue and then with the latest speech, we are looking forward to we see by and trying to get rebuild the coalition that he and former president obama have been committed on for so many years. >> shannon: and student loans, too. >> if the president trump turns out two types of voters, a republican primary voters who are particularly low for him and turns out there because. and president biden understands that. president obama understands that. and i'm sure they talked about that. >> shannon: and speaking of turnouts, expectations going into i work at here's what politico says. trump -- trump and his aides

have faced a unique problem for expectations for a romp are skyhigh and him self has said that. >> and there's nothing to disabuse people with that. every poll shows him with these massive cleats. you have seen nobody be able to put together the kind of consolidation nikki haley has had in new hampshire and the state of our so far. ron desantis has made that side of an elbow of his campaign. he is going to have to figure out how to distance if he is in second, he is going to have to have some distance to the third-year presumably nikki haley would finish. he has got to be threatening trump at some level in order to keep the momentum going to bring him to a state like new hampshire where he is not going to do very well into south carolina and ultimately the rest of the campaign. so it feels anticlimactic in many ways. but you never know. are what would is a carcass that does it may be some unpredictable things. travel or we know. not too far in the past. hopefully we will know who wins

there on election night. last times the winner there is not the nominee or the person. >> trump is in dominant position. i think the news out of iowa is not going to be a close race. it is going to be trump doing a whole lot better in consulting the party and showing that he has a support with his socially conservative voters. ron desantis has been spending a lot of money in trying to capitalize on it. if nikki haley beats ron desantis or finishes in second place in a state where she did not spend quite as much time as the sentence, it does not have quite as much of the infrastructure, that could give her some huge momentum where trump is a lot more vulnerable. >> shannon: we will know a little more than a week from now. that is round one. on go anywhere because of x as president trump makes his way across i work at the supreme court says it will wait until the battle over blue state efforts to keep him off the ballot. how quickly, the justices decide? ♪ ♪

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trump's legal battles in 2 2010 for. we are back with the panel. and stef, president truman says they're going to try to talk them out of doing something that may be the right thing. here is what he said friday. >> he owns the supreme court. if they rule in his favor, it will be horrible for them and we will protest at their houses and we will do all of the things. and that? pressure on people. >> shannon: he thinks the right thing is the setting in his favor. the court does not want to be in the middle of this. >> the supreme court is going to be weighing in on the 2024 election cycle in a way that we have not seen in a very long time if ever. to be frank. and we are seeing trump already kind of starting to find a way he wants to message -- the message around this and leaving open the possibility that the court will decide for him, that he would be clear to be a these

pallets across the country. the court would put to rest these efforts to see if trump should be removed from these pallets. there seems to be some confidence there, that might happen and it is kind of interesting to hear him a sort of defending and put into decision where up until now he has tended to view himself as, you know, really the victim of the justice system, the victim of judicial decisions there. so it is certainly a different tactic we are seeing from the former president on this. >> shannon: there's also the obstruction charges for the january 6 defenders that are bubbling now up to the supreme court that he is charged with a couple of those same counts, not a days -- but it feels like this is on a collision course right before we get into the conventions. >> we are going to be spending a lot more time focusing on the court room because trump, the. >> this is very, very critical because the beginning of the january 6 probe was before super tuesday. maybe that would have some impact on the primary. and for trump, these cases

supercharge his support with the base and helps him with republican voters. so there are some polls, some evidence among swing voters, there could be some sign voters that look at trump's legal problems, possibility of a conviction and they may actually vote for joe biden or vote for a third party candidate if those legal situations were sent for trump. so look, the timing matters. trouble certainly and i think has been helped by the legal mess. >> he predicted it would work for him. >> it is like kryptonite for the bass. it has been a challenge to come in the general election. >> shannon: i want to go across the street back to capitol hill because an announcement from house gop members that they will continue investigating the issues of anti-semitism on campus days after former harvard president claudine gay wrote a lengthy piece in the new york times. she said this. those who have relentlessly campaign to oust mason trafford and analyze and ad hominem insults. they recycled toward racial

stereotypes about black out and temperament. imposed a false narrative of indifference and incompetence josh, this josh, this is bucking the conversation. and again, about the conversations about d.e.i., about, you know, race issues, all kinds of things that are blowing up again. >> i can't think of an absolute that has exposed a greater intellectual vacancy and a lack of accountability in higher education system in this country than the claudine gay episode. and i think ultimately, her answer is completely telling because nothing to do with her comments of anti-semitism. that started all of this. no mention of plagiarism issue which by the way it is very real. her problem is it is all racist. it is all republicans are attacking me. where is the accountability in any o of that? this is something the left has gotten way too far out. over the last i would say three, four years and now you are seeing that started to be reeled

in by the american public and letting some accountability. this is, i'm not sure this is going away anytime soon. i think there are a corporate board rooms all over this country that are going to be dealing with d.e.i. in a very different way than they thought. >> shannon: and she said her comments could have been better. but she does also say that the congressional hearing that she got caught up in public it was a trap. to point because you have been a businessman and you have dealt with this, i'm sure, the corporate level, axios had this interesting piece that said companies are breaking away from d.e.i. anything that smacks a quarter, they say is out. businesses are pulling back from the d.e.i. term, the focus is moving away from those three words overall well-being and inclusion. how to american businesses now navigate this? >> businesses, whether they be for profit business or any organization understand that diversity is a strength. i started two businesses. my businesses were diverse. they were diverse by gender.

they were diverse bike race and they were diverse by ideas. right? you need a diversity of thought as well as diversity of gender and race and other forms of diversity. you are stronger when you have those things. and businesses understand that. so they are not at all going to back away from that concept. right? if you take a business that 100 white men who were progressive and that was the entire workforce, you would love to compete against that business. right? because he would say they don't have a diversity of thought. and that is how businesses -- >> isn't it a problem that d.e.i. has gotten away from the diversity of thought and made it diversity for diversity's sake? >> you needed diversity of thought but you also need other forms of diversity as well. you need to have -- any enterprise, whether it is the border, you need to have people thinking of that work differently from their own perspectives. court decisions and things about

quotas, et cetera, that will change. but the fundamental notion that you have a more diverse business, you were going, you were going to win in the playing field, businesses are not backing away from that. >> shannon: and they will act on who is a well-known harvard alum who pushed for gay to be ousted. he said, he has run businesses and he says -- >> that has nothing to do. what she said at that hearing and the brazen anti-semitism that has occurred on that campus, it was right for her to resign. these are different issues. >> shannon: and what he says is businesses should be about diversity. his fear was the more at what he looked at what was going on with d.e.i. on campuses, it turned into oppressed versus oppressor. panel, thank you very much. we will see a next sunday. the israel defense force has announced the war effort against hamas has changed gears. the very latest of what is happening in gaza right now. we're going to take you like to israel next. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ >> shannon: israel says its war against hamas has entered a new phase and plans to partially withdraw its forces in gaza in the coming months and some of the reverse is who have been called up will return to

civilian life. trey yingst is live with more. hello, trey. >> reporter: good morning. it has been three months since the october 7th massacre in israel these are still fighting for territory inside gaza. role for schools and districts do remain the same. to look for the remaining hostages and also destroy hamas military and government capabilities. battles have shifted further south. the main fighting no taking -- taking place in central and southern gaza. that military action falls amid the backdrop of diplomatic efforts. you can -- u.s. secretary of state antony blinken is in qatar as part of a multicountry visit to the middle east and the gulf. among his goals is to move forward a postwar plan for gaza and divert a larger conflict. on saturday, has been fired more than 40 rockets into northern israel in what they called an initial response to last week's killing of a hamas deputy. >> in beirut. the act through an immediate israeli response with airstrikes

against his blood command positions in southern lebanon. america's top diplomat also looking to address a growing crisis in the red sea. ongoing attacks for iran backed houthi rebels against commercial shipping vessels are diverse in vessels around africa instead of. >> to the suez canal. shifting giant friday it would avoid the red sea for the foreseeable future. to move those at the time and fuel costs further interrupting global trade. israeli officials are increasingly pessimistic about finding a diplomatic solution for the rising tension across the region and they are preparing for the possibility of a broader war. shannon? >> shannon: très, our thanks always to you and your team. and a quick note this one before we go. my podcast drops fresh this morning. i'm chatting with best-selling author and journalist. to talk about his new book, the little wire. it is a riveting tale about the fight for truth in the middle of the holocaust. and just a reminder, we are awake away from the more from the first verse of the 24 presidential election. they are carcasses take place

january 15th. fox news sunday will get you ready for the big day. we will be live from des moines next sunday. for now, that is it for today. thanks for joining us. i'm shannon bream. have a great week. we will. we will see yo u next, "f news

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