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start shortly after president biden attended the dignified transfer of the three u.s. soldiers killed on a base in jordan. this hour we're joined by white house national spokesman john kirby and by lindsay graham who said the strikes so far do not go far enough. then new pressure on senate negotiators to close a deal for fresh aid to israel and ukraine, while stemming the flow of migrants illegally crossing the u.s./mexico border. and calls grow to deport those accused of attacking police officers in times square who were let loose on no bail. >> our criminal justice system is upside down. it fails every day. >> changing the tune of the blue state's top leader. our sunday panel addresses the heated election year uproar over illegal immigration. all right now on fox news sunday.
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hello from fox news in washington. the u.s. has carried out a series of strikes in three countries over the past couple of days. friday u.s. military forces launched retaliation attacks in iraq and syria landing more than 120 strikes on 85 targets all across the region. that, of course, in response to an iranian backed drone attack in jordan that left three u.s. troops dead. the u.s. attacks are targeting proxy groups across the region. for now, two locations that were hit remain undisclosed. iran has long funded groups in the region, ranging from hezbollah and lebanon to the houthis in yemen. now since the start of the israel/hamas war, u.s. troops in the region have been under fire from iranian supported militias facing at least 166 attacks in that time. leading us to where we are today, with friday's strikes just the first we believe in a series of large scale attacks. in a moment we'll talk with john
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kirby from the white house and republican senator lindsay graham. first we turn to the middle east. trey? >> reporter: shannon, good morning. the middle east remains on the brink of a much broader conflict after the u.s. response to continued attacks from houthi forces in yemen and the response to that drone attack last weekend that killed three american soldiers. friday evening the united states striking back against iran and its proxies in iraq and syria. 85 locations hit with 125 precision munitions according to u.s. central command. the target's control centers and weapon storage facility, some affiliated directly with the iran's forces. in a statement overnight u.s. secretary of defense, lloyd austin, hinted at further retaliation saying, quote, the president has directed additional actions to hold the
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irgc and affiliated militias accountable for their attacks on u.s. and coalition forces. these are will unfold at times and places of our choosing. the iraqi government claims 16 people were killed during u.s. strikes against locations in their country and condemn the action as a violation of iraqi sovereignty. at a bombed out location along the border between iraq an syria, residents expressed frustration with iran backed militias hiding among civilian areas. >> translator: we ask official bodies to make a stop to this. >> reporter: and this weekend, new reaction to the strikes from tehran. >> we condemn any move against the front and we reject and condemn these attacks which naturally leads to the resistance. >> reporter: the region now waits to see if there will be further american strikes in the middle east or a response by
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iranian proxies. shannon? >> trey, thank you. joining us now john kirby, national security counsel coordinator for strategic communications. welcome back. good to see you, sir. >> good to see you. >> before the strikes started you knew there were critics who talked about the delay. one week ai go the soldiers were lost. militia leaders can't say they were warned and if any of them were still around the target areas they are the world's dumbest terrorists. was it too much of a delay? >> two thoughts there. first it's not like we held back any notification that we were going to respond if our troops were attacked. ''s been clear. we will respond. it's not as if prior to the attack last weekend that the militia groups and irgc and folks in tehran didn't know that we were going to take seriously any attack on our troops or facilities. then with the specific attacks that we struck, targets we struck friday night, you want to
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do this in a deliberate way. you want to carefully select your targets. you want to make sure all the parameters are in place to have good effects including factors in the weather. these attacks were using manned aircraft. you want to make sure your pilots can get in an get out safely. so there was a lot of planning that went into that. pentagon is glad we hit what we hit. >> senator graham said he thinks we need strikes inside iran. that you have to get their attention with things that really matter to them, like their oil infrastructure. strikes on iran, within iran, on or off the table? >> i'm not on a national television show going to telegraph punches or get in front of the president and his decision to make his case. i'm not going to talk about potential future military operations. what i would say, and this is a really important point. what you saw friday night was just the first round. there will be additional action taken against the irgc and the groups they're backing.
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>> there were growing calls from some on capitol hill that they need, from the white house, you to come to them, to ask for authorization for using military force. do you think that will come at some point with this specific set of strikes? >> the president is acting consistent with his article ii responsibilities as commander in chief. these are self-defense actions that we are taking to prevent and to take away capability from these groups from targeting our troops and our facilities. >> it's not just republicans. you have senator carden who chairs the intel committee. he said you guys need to come to him. >> we're comfortable and confident that the president has appropriate authorities to continue to conduct these stripes to protect our sheurpbgs sailors are troops throughout the region. >> there are critics who say we are in this position because of the president's actions. they point to things like easing sanctions on iran's oil industry that allow them to rake in tens of billions. we know money is fundable. how can we say or with any certainty that those funds are not funding these groups taking aim at our soldiers.
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three lives lost, dozens injured. an opinion piece on the hill said, any clear assessment of biden's performance of his policy remains one consistent threat which would help explain the dire state of world affairs during his presidency, his unusual commitment to choosing the weakest or least confrontational tact. you talk about being worried about igniting something broader in the region, but is this idea of appeasement sending the wrong signal to people who only understand brute strength. >> it's hard to look at what we've been doing and say we've been soft on iran. more than 500 entities sanctioned, 50 sanctioned regimes. he has bolstered our force presence in the region including at one point having two aircraft carriers there. one in the med and one in the middle east waters. in fact, there's a carrier still there. and in terms of the attacks we've suffered over recent months, he has increased aggressiveness of our responses
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to go more directly after the irgc. what happened on friday night, that's not the end of it. there will be more. i think obviously come to a different place here on whether or not we've been aggressive enough and muscular enough on iran. you're right, the president doesn't want to see a broader conflict in the middle east and we're not looking for a war with iran. i met the american people don't want that either. it's not like, shannon, there weren't attacks in the previous administration either. right? after then president trump ordered an attack on the head of the irgc. attacks on our troops and facilities, spiked pretty dramatically to the point where in late 2020 the former secretary of state was considered weighing the options of closing our embassy in baghdad. these groups have been doing this for awhile. we got the first round out on friday. let's see where this goes. >> let's talk about iraq and syria. you've said iraq was notified in advance, government officials
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knew it was coming. they have since said they are not happy about what's happening. new york times reporting syria and iraq condemning u.s. strikes in their countries saying such attacks only impede the fight against islamic state terrorists and threaten to drag the region deeper into instability. have you heard directly from them since then? they say this is sovereign territory. >> i can't speak for our diplomatic conversations. i'm sure our ambassador in baghdad has had conversations since the weekend. i'll let them speak to that. we've got to take seriously the attacks on our troops and our facilities. in this case, in jordan, three americans were killed. three troops. three families now are grieving. president's not gonna sit back and idly take that. we're gonna respond. we're gonna respond as aggressively as we need to. there were appropriate notifications and discussions with the iraqi government. i'll leave it at that. we also want to see the iraqi government move to help us, to help us rid the threat of these militia groups on iraqi soil.
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that should be what they consider a violation of their sovereignty. that these groups are operating with some manner of impunity on iraqi soil. >> let's stay in that region and relationships. axios said the president is losing patience with prime minister netanyahu. he's rejected the idea of a palestinian state. we hear the state department is working up proposals with respect to that. it appears there is growing day light between these two world leaders. how would you describe their relationship? when did they last talk? tkpwhr they've known each other a long long time, decades here. and the president has said repeatedly he doesn't always agree with everything prime minister netanyahu says or does. the advantage of having alliances and long relationships such as the president has had through his many years of public service is that you can have those difficult conversations with a foreign lead and you can make your case. i will tell you i can't speak for what the prime minister says publicly. i can just tell you in our
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conversations with him and his war cabinet, they know america's got their back, that we're going to continue to support them. that's why the supplemental funding request is so important. they also know we're going to be concerned about reducing civilian casualties, getting humanitarian assistance in. secretary blinken is on his way to the region. i will say they have been receptive to that advice and those perspectives we have shared. they have altered and changed the way they are prosecuting operations. >> certainly not open to two states. house speaker said yesterday they're going to put up a stand alone israel aid package. would the white house sign it if it gets there? >> we are in good active discussions on the senate side in a bipartisan way to get -- >> a bigger deal with the border. >> to get the supplemental funding. all the things the seems important which is indo pacific, ukraine. if that gets sent to the president's desk, he would sign it. >> would he veto a stand alone
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bill to help israel? >> what we are hearing is a political ploy. he's focused on, and rightly so, the terrific work that's been done on the senate side to address all these national security challenges. >> we await it. thank you. always appreciate your time. joining us how south carolina senator graham. all right. you heard what the admiral had to say there. not taking strikes within iran off the table. you've advocated for them for a long time here. there are those who worry about that. they say this is how america and its alliances gets dragged into endless war. the moment they feel justified by unacceptable attacks by these militias put us on a path to a war that doesn't serve our interest an whose exit cannot envision. >> well, the admiral is a good man. i think he does a good job telling a story that's hard to tell. our national security is in free fall. morgan ortega made a good point.
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look at the record for the last three years. this is a symptom of a greater problem. we withdrew from afghanistan, taliban took over in 2021 showing weakness putin invades ukraine in 2022. in 2023, hamas attacks israel killing more jews than any time since the holocaust. 2024, we're having americans killed by iranian proxies in the middle east. they're pushing us all over the place. our national security is in free fall. here's what works. hit something they value. solumani was killed with a single strike. he was their general patten and eisenhower. there was nothing left but a smoldering car an ring finger. it worked. they got back in a box. >> wait a minute. the admiral noted there were attacks on u.s. interests after that. >> yeah, but they are in a box. i don't remember it like this. 160 attacks? we kill one guy, we got out of
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the iranian nuclear agreement. we cut their money off. they were the weakest they've been, now they're the strongest and most provocative. admiral, here's what we need to do. you need to hit something the ayatollah values. his leadership team like sulmani. or take him out of the oil business. if we hit their oil infrastructure, you don't need manned aircraft. they got four refineries you can see from space. if you knock one of them out, it would stop this. our american troops are in harms way. if the goal is to deter iran, you're failing miserably. if the goal is to protect american troops, you're not achieving your goal. if you're convinced iran, we don't want a wider war, they believe we don't want a war with you, they got the message. what they're not afraid of us. they were afraid of trump. they're not afraid of us. look what happened in afghanistan in 2021. look what happened in europe in 2022. 2023 hamas attacks israel. it is not working. we need to change our policy.
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people are not afraid of us. this idea of hitting hundreds of targets that doesn't matter. the on iranian we've killed in syria, iraq is some dumb ass that doesn't know to get out of the way. we gave them a week's notice. if there are another round of strikes coming, i hope they really will hurt iran in their pocket book or kill their leadership, 'cause if you don't, nothing changes. >> both you and admiral have served in uniform. you understand the risks of getting more broadly involved in these things. do you think there needs to be a request from the white house for authorized use? >> absolutely not. he has the authority to protect those in the fieldto those who want to get it approved by congress, every commander in chief can protect our chiefs. they're just not on vacation. they're not hanging out in the middle east. they're there to make sure isis and al qaeda do not attack us here.
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iran is trying to drive us out of the middle east. and the response we're giving is inadequate to the task. they do not believe or fear that we will hit what matters most to them their oil infrastructure or leadership. >> you don't agree on that. i want to agree. you have spent a lot of time in the region. you've met with prime minister netanyahu. our administration is pushing for talk of a two-state deal, which he clearly does not want to have. reuters also reporting about conversations that former uk prime minister david cameron, they saw it this way. he told prime minister netanyahu to, quote, start talking about the things a palestinian state can be rather than things it can't be, reiterating a british support for a two-state solution. what should our position be? >> i think it is irresponsible and dangerous to unilaterally recognize a palestinian state until you first achieve peace with israel. it would be like recognizing the germans in the middle of the
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holocaust. on october 7th, there was an attack by hamas that killed 1,400 jews. they raped women, put babies in ovens. we will not reward them for that attack. i have been working with administration. they've done a good job trying to get saudi an israel to end the arab/israeli conflict. we need to deal with the palestinian issue. but nobody in israel is gonna recognize a palestinian state until there's first peace with israel. nobody in israel's gonna reward this attack. nobody's gonna give the palestinian state after being slaughtered by hamas. so to my friend david cameron, who i like a bunch. it is a horribly bad idea to talk about a palestinian state unilaterally granted until there's first peace and security with israel. you've got it backwards. nobody in israel will recognize a palestinian state until there's peace. >> it's been centuries in the
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wait for that. we'll see if we get there. i want to make sure we talk about the border. we've been waiting on a deal. we think we'll get the text here sun morning. we're still waiting. we're told even though we don't have text yet there will be a move potentially to get this to a vote on the senate floor before you leave for a two-week recess in february. there are a lot of folks who don't want to see the deal at all, others say i'm open. >> it's a process. this is the oldest game in town, to bring an important piece of legislation right before a holiday or right before a break. so process wise, we're not going to deal with this next week. it's too important. substance. i have been involved in negotiations. what they have achieved as far as i know, we haven't seen yet. real change in asylum, in parole, in expedited removal. here's what trump said. we do a very good job on the walls. they're incompetent. it's not that they're old, they're just bad.
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we can't get any democrat vote to change them. that was in 2018. there are democrats willing to change this law to make it better, to deal with parole, to enhance expedited removal. substantively james langford i think has done a pretty good job. i'm going to wait and see what the final bill look likes. on process, there's no way we're going to be jammed. we're not going to take up something this important right before a two week break. on the substance, i hope people keep an open mind. if you believe our laws are broken, you got to fix them. hr2 is the gold standard. it passed the house. >> it will not pass in the senate. >> you're dead right, shannon. that's why you're doing this show. you're so smart. in the house it involves two republican votes. did not get one democratic vote. we hook hr2 up on the floor of the senate. we lost rand paul. we had to pick up one vote. bringing in a bill that fails doesn't solve a problem. do you know how you solve a problem? do what langford is doing. sit down with the other side and
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negotiate. i appreciate what senator langford has done. for those who push hr2 it's not going to happen. if it doesn't happen, you got to do something else. >> you know what they'll say. if you put up a senate bill that's dead on arrival. >> totally agree. i hope speaker johnson will look at the substance of it and we'll see if this is worthy of being voted on in the house. but i want to just tell you that senator langford is doing the best he can to fix a problem that's been around for a long time. >> no one's gonna get everyone they want. senator, thanks. migrant crisis seemingly out of control. video showing more than a dozen men attacking police officers outside a shelter in new york. all but one quickly released by authorities. they're back on the streets. we'll talk about that with our sunday panel up next. you don't have to wait until retirement
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>> the bail laws allow for people involved in these physical assaults of a police officer to be charged, to be bail eligible, meaning right now they should be sitting in rykers. >> that's new york's govern r reacting to the brutal beating of cops by migrants in new york city this past week and criticism that all but one of those men were quickly released. there's growing frustration with how the issues of the border and safety within the u.s. are colliding. talk about it with our sunday group. bloomberg news white house and politics editor mario parker. marie harf, rich lowry and olivia beavers congressional reporter. we all saw these. the one of the police officers under attack. that shocked a lot of people.
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but then they were turned quickly to fury when they saw this. some of the suspects released and basically flipping off america. didn't go well now that we have reports of some of them on the run. probably not excited about or intending to return to their court date. >> totally infuriating. what you have is a toxic combination of an ineffective border, and these insane bail policies combining to get these cops attacked and then these guys literally let loose. figuratively and literally flipping the country offthis is a problem in our cities and huge problem for the president. >> marie, you're increasingly hearing blue state mayors and governors really starting to put pressure on the white house. this is enough. cities are struggling with things we can't manage. you got connecticut's democratic governor this week saying i will send the connecticut national guard to the southern border because that's how bad i think this problem is. >> right.
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i think this is an issue where democrats and republicans understand it's a problem. both of them are sort of right. we do need law and order in our cities. that is clear. we also need to address the root causes and why some of this violence is happening that can include criminal justice issues. that can include border issues. it's amazing to me we are talking about immigration. joe biden has said he will sign an incredibly tough immigration bill if it comes to his desk. it will reduce wait times drastically for asylum cases to be seen. it will send a lot more resources to the bodder. it will require closing the border if certain criteria are met, and yet republicans in congress, to help elect donald trump, are refusing to pass it. so this is a situation where there's a bunch of causes here. one of them, the border, that republicans have said they really care about, they are refusing to move on it for solely political reasons. >> we'll see. the things you outline we think are in the deal. we don't know.
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we're still waiting. some in the house are saying, we'll give it a shot but we have to see what the senate serves up before you do that. in boston, another city where tensions are flaring. there's a community center there in a predominantly black neighborhood where folks say we have been fight for years to get this place updated, outfitted, up graded. it's not happened. now it's being taken for use to people in the country illegally so they have what they need, they can be treated like human beings. there's a guy in that neighborhood, i was trying to play what he had to say but i had to bleep every other word. he's angry. this is his neighborhood and what he need and wanted for so long didn't come until now, for someone else. >> certainly. you were seeing quotes saying i have been a life long democrat but now i'm starting to consider where these parks left them out of a life of crime. what you're going to watch is how much the migrant and crime issues are going to be colliding in places like new york.
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if you look, it's already playing out in places like new york race to replace george santos where they're trying to blame tom flossy for rolling out the red carpet. tom flossy is also trying to separate himself from the migrant crisis because it's draining resources. there is that friction between people who want to help and want to create a system where these people who are seeking asylum coming into the country, and people who feel like it's impacting their livelihoods and causing an unfair imbalance in their lives. >> okay. by the way, we're just getting news the border text bill will be out today. whether it's before the end of the show, i don't know. but we're told it's coming. to this issue in boston, chicago they found time to vote on a cease fire in gaza. not sure how that will impact the situation. the mayor said he supports removing police officers from schools. they've got a crime epidemic there. they also have a situation where local residents say, again, you
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know, access in their own communities are not being used for them as promised or being used elsewhere. there are several lawsuits. free press quotes one resident said all of these people i have supported every one of them, talking about the mayor and his allies. she says, are you freaking kidding me? there's a humanitarian crisis in the black community but every time we have a need in our community, we are told there are no funds. mario, there are multiple lawsuits there in chicago. >> absolutely. that's my home town, i should mention. i was just there over the holidays. so i saw some good stuff first hand. if we were to take an autopsy of where we are now in the political cycle, he is probably the most influential person in this cycle. by taking the tactic of bussing the migrants to city, he's exposed some fissures in the democratic party. just at a time where biden needs to ramp up his coalition, you've got black voters expressing just
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extreme dismay about some of the policies that are happening and blaming democrats and democratic mayors. it's exposing this rift just given some of these long simmering tensions between these different communities and constituencies. >> it's important to remember, abbott's had a big role in highlighting the democratic division on this. it's just a small portion of migrants in cities like new york and chicago have been bussed by governor abbott. illegal immigrants head to those cities anyway, and would be regardless of what texas is doing. in terms of the ultimate responsibility for the crisis at the border, on february 2, 2021, couple days after taking office, biden repealed remain in mexico and these asylum agreements with the northern triangle agreements. anyone who knew anything about the border knew it would create a disaster. it has. he didn't need to do that. no republican made him do that. he did that.
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he thought anything trump had done had to be revealed even though trump created a secure border. >> what do you think about that? the president will now say i need these tools. folks will point out there were executive orders that were stripped away. i was told at the time the transition teams were warning the biden team, you guys know what's going to happen if you do this. those were the things he did three years ago. >> there were two problems with remain in mexico. a number of courts ruled it's not legal. there were significant legal challenges to remain in mexico. the other problem is the mexican government has to agree to it and has to play an active role in it which we have no confidence they will. it's not a long term solution, shannon. sure, at the time -- the biden team has said this in court filings. it did help reduce the number of migrants coming across the border. also may be illegal. so it is not a fix. we need systemic fixes that only congress can provide. republicans in congress have been begging for democrats to sign something. joe biden says, he'll sign it.
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>> how convenient, in an election year. he's upside down in all of his polling on immigration. listen, there's motivation on both sides to take two very different tacts on this. >> what's interesting if biden were to sign this, lot of progressives don't like this because it's tougher than any democrat, certainly in my life time, have signed. independents love it. it may be good politically but it's good for our security and for the border. republicans should get behind it. >> everything else, ukraine, israel, tied together. we'll seethis thing can get across the finish line. up next we got a brand new round of polls as some democrats are sounding the alarm over president biden's support among critical voting blocks and voters speak out on how a criminal conviction would impact their decision of whether or not to stick with former president trump.
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stationed in jordan by an iranian backed proxy. lucas tomlinson live in vegas tracking the president. hey, lucas. >> reporter: shannon, since friday, u.s. forces have launched air strikes in three different countries across the middle east. the biden administration claims this conflict is not expanding. >> we acknowledge tensions are high in the region, but i don't necessarily agree we're in a wider regional conflict. again, we've seen attacks on our forces prior to october 17. we had attacks on our forces earlier in 2023. so i think it's important to remember this is nothing new. >> ask the parents of those three young americans we lost, ask about if all those strikes that have been on american facilities. of course. may not be a nuclear war, full scale war, but if people don't consider this a war, they have never put on a uniform. >> reporter: one battle the president wants to win here at home, the potential head to head contest with donald trump.
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it would mark the first presidential rematch since 1956 and the first time presidential incumbents have faced off since 1892. president biden spoke in wilmington without mentioning trump by name. >> the guy we're running against, he's not for anything. he's against everything. no, i mean it. it's the weirdest campaign i have ever been engaged in. >> reporter: president biden's name was onballot for the first time in south carolina after skipping iowa and new hampshire, states where he finished fourth and fifth respectively four years ago. biden did not need to anxiously watch those polls close. he captured more than 96% of the vote in south carolina though turnout was far less. biden arrived in l.a. yesterday for a fund-raiser at the home ofhood director george lucas yesterday. he arrives here in las vegas later today, shannon, for more campaign events ahead of the democratic primary tuesday.
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donald trump's republican rival appeared last night on saturday night live. >> nikki haley, sixth sense. remember that? i see dead people. [ laughter ] >> that's what voters will say if they see you an joe on the ballot. >> reporter: for the second straight year, president biden is declining the traditional super bowl interview, a game that will be played right here in las vegas next weekend. it will be a rematch of 2020. shannon? >> thank you, lucas. we're back with the panel. why don't we start there. this news broke yesterday that the president is going to skip the super bowl interview which has millions of eyeballs. why not sit down for that? >> you've seen the white house trying to go around the traditional modes of communication to voter, right? they're going more towards just niche outlets, not some of the traditional venues that presidents have taken advantage of in the past.
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probably a questionable strategy just given that the white house is struggling to message with voters and connect with some of its key constituents. we saw south carolina yesterday, the outreach toward black voters. that's a troubling sign given black voters are the bed rock of the party. it shows hey you need to figure out how to communicate with some of these key constituencies as you start to barrel toward a november general election. >> we have poll, some showing trouble for the white house for the president's re-election. our fox news poll in georgia, choice voting for today it gives president trump an eight point lead in a very important swing state, olivia. >> very devastating. we've been seeing swing state polls coming in for months. they should be raising alarm because in some of the ones that donald trump is on i think the states we've been tracking, now biden is behind in six of them. i think they're also optimistic that they will be able to sell their economic message which president biden just had a very
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good jobs report and the fear of recession is going down. job wages are beating inflation for the first time after bad inflation. but it still hasn't impacted his numbers. so i think that he's hoping in those state, he's going to be able to sell though voters. donald trump is trying to claim this is an economy responding to him being the future president. i think some of his advisers are saying, we don't think that's the best tact. >> speaking ahead of time. let's go to wisconsin, another one of our fox news polls this week. they are in a dead heat there, 47/47. it's a state president biden did win last time around. >> yep. >> neck and neck. >> other states will be very close. this national polling is really extraordinary. you look back at 2020. trump didn't lead in any polls. i think maybe there was one where he's ahead of buyen in 2020. every other one he is trailing. against hillary clinton in 2016. same story. this is the strongest donald
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trump has polled ever in his national political career. not because he is hugely personally popular. it's not. it's because the infeebled state of joe biden, who is the weakest incumbent president running for re-election since george h. w. bush and jimmy carter. >> we've got conflicting national polls when you go head to head. cnn said 49% said they would back trump if the election were held today. 45% for biden, 5% for someone else. then quinapeac they say biden holds the lead over trump in that hypothetical election matchup. >> this is going to be a close election. polls this far out aren't really predictive of what would happen. it should be concerning to the biden team in some states. donald trump, hit a ceiling, hard ceiling. he's probably there. joe biden is getting all the downside of tbeing the incumben. joe biden is governing dealing with war in the middle east,
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dealing with an economy. olivia is right, they are running on this economy. it is back in many ways better than prepandemic. wages are outpacing inflation. inflation is down. people are starting to feel it. so i think the biden team has work to do. this is a close election. the country is very divided. if i were choosing which side to be on, setting aside my own personal view, i would pick the biden team. i would rather be them with trump's ceiling, with biden having enough time to run and make that economic argument to voters. >> the key places that will matter are your swing states. the path to 270 is the whole ball game. if biden trails trump in each of seven swing states in the monthly survey lags trump 42/48 across all states in a head to head matchup, the swing state, the former's president lead grows to 9 percentage point. that's another headache for the white house, this idea of a third party really shaking thing up. >> it is. when you see rfk junior or
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cornell west there, that is a thorn in the president's side. one of the things the poll also shows, as much as donald trump has expanded his lead, particularly on the back of the perception of the economy and then immigration as well, is if he's convicted on one of these court case, more than half of those swing voters say they're not going to vote for them. another 25% of the republicans even say that as well. for the last eight years or so we've been wondering how much -- testing the loyalty of the republican base with donald trump. it seem likes if there's a conviction in one of these cases that has propelled him through the primary, it could get questionable in general. >> washington post has more on that from their poll with monmoth. this is from south carolina voters, gop voters. they were looking at where clearly president trump is outpacing nikki haley. asked who they would vote for if trump was convicted and still the nominee, 62% said they would stick with the former president but 17% say they would go to biden and 15% say they would
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vote for another unnamed candidate. olivia, if you get to the convention and have your nominee and then, this is a lot of if, there is a criminal conviction, what do republican doss? his name will be on the ballot? these numbers aren't good. >> i think you will see a pullout messaging approach trying to undermind whatever the conviction is, saying it was unfair and you'll see the rigged campaign argument again. >> all right. welsh well we'll stand by. the supreme court takes up the case whether or not states can ban president trump from their ballot. which justices will be watching how quickly we get a decision. our legal analysts are next.
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>> the high court set to hear arguments this week as colorado's top election official urges the supreme court to uphold the state's move to keep president trump's name off their ballot. let's take the case to our legal expert, jonathan turley and tom dupree deputy assistant attorney general. welcome back. >> thank you. >> i want to start with word
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that jack smith special counsel case on the january 6th events involving president trump officially has been removed from the calendar. there's a lot of wrangling going on with issues. but march 4th, tom, doesn't look like it's going to happen. >> it's totally off the calendar. the district court basically said, it is completely unrealistic to think we can aed here to a march trial date. she's pushing it back. my guess is we would be looking at late summer at the earliest. even once the d.c. circuit and once the supreme court have all resolved these immunity issues, there's still going to be months of pretrial wrangling as each side prepares their cases before the case can ever go to a jury. >> the state said let's let the lower courts figure it out. do you think it comes back to them on this immunity issue? or does it get punted to the calendar that starts in october. >> they indicated there's no sense of urgency. jack smith said we really need
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to get this done. trying to get this done before the election. the justices clearly don't see why this has to be expedited to that degree. so it's unclear whether they're going to make any new effort once it comes back to them. >> this could be kicked even further. >> it could. >> okay. so let's talk about the case that will be argued this week at the supreme court. the brief of the colorado secretary of state jenna griswold. colorado kicked president trump off saying he was part of an insurrection. just as colorado cannot be forced tobe placed on its ballot a naturalized citizen, minor, it also should not be forced to include a candidate found by court to have violated his oath to support the constitution by engaging insurrection. how will that land with the justices? >> i think it's a silly argument. there's a different between an age requirement and this. first of all, it depends on your ruling on a series of questions in order to even get trump disqualified. it's got to apply to a president, which has been
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contested. it has to be self-executed allowing the state to act unilaterally. finally this has to be an insurrection. those are very tough questions. i think the court is unlikely on the first question to rule on that. it's more likely to look at this self-executing question. because remember chief justices roberts feels the burden of being chief justice. he's going to want to eke out as large a majority on this question. the second question probably offers the best chance for that. >> okay. there's a group of former gop lawmakers who support what colorado has done on the question of whether there's an insurrection. the events surrounding january 6 necessary tats the inclusion that trump armed a violet mob to as a result of his actions trump is not qualified to serve as president. >> i agree that there's no
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chance that the supreme court actually gets to that question. i think the likelihood of president trump losing this case in the supreme court is somewhere between zero an zero. >> you heard it here. >> to disqualify someone who is currently the leading presidential candidate, you need clear constitutional basis for doing so. legal scholars and historians are all over the map on how this procedure work. for that reason the supreme court is going to be cautious. they are going to try achieve unanimity. there's no question you have to get a unanimous decision. the idea the supreme court would kick him off the ballot, i just don't see that happening. >> arguments on thursday. how quick do you think we get a decision? >> this is an argument where we're going to learn a lot. everyone will be listening to those three justices on the left and how they, what question they're focusing on. but i think, hopefully, you'll hear all of them reflect the same conclusion of many of us that down this road lies madness. if you could have a single outliar, like colorado,
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effectively decide the election. let's assume this was california. you could have california dictate an election unilaterally. >> by the number of electoral votes. >> that's right. by the mere number of the electoral votes. justices will see that and will put a quick end to this, i hope. >> i want to make sure we get t. several protesters pro life demonstrators at an abortion clinic charged and now convicted on felony charges that could get them more than a decade in jail. justice department decided to pursue them. doj said these defendants knowingly chose to violate laws they disagreed with. there's a lot of consternation for folks looking around, violent offenders on the streets and wondering why the decision to prosecute these people an the fact they could face more than a decade in jail for singing hymns and being there. >> you want the rule of law to be applied fairly and impartially. you see these situations where people who have a conservative view.are point are protesting.
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and with a liberal view, they go free. people look at this an say, what is going on? is this the fair rule of law? the fact is protest laws should be enforced uniformly regardless of the under lying political viewpoint an then if you're going to drop the hammer on people who take a pro life view, you have to do the same to people protesting from the left including people who are protesting the white house just a few weeks ago. >> more than a year of people showing up at justices private residents protesting under a federal law everybody agreed the wording was clear about. some state statutes as well. i didn't hear a single rattle. >> what's going to happen is there's going to be renewed interest in looking at the safe fact dealing with abortion clinics and how it's written. it has very ambiguous terms where you may not be stopping someone from going into a clinic, but you could be arrested because you are nearby, you're singing, you're praying. the fact these people are facing
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a decade in jail shows this lack of consistency in sentencing. that's the very heart of a system of fair and equal justice. >> well, we understand their sentencing is set for july. sounds like their legal teams are discussing appeals to launch after that once they find out. sentence could also include $260,000 in fines. gentlemen, thursday, thank you very much. new developments in the middle east as the u.s. takes aim at iranian backed militias. we've got an update for you, the latest. we're travelling all across america, talking to people about their hearts. wh—who wants to talk about their heart! ♪ how's the heart? how's your heart? how's your heart? it's good. —is it? aah, i don't know. it's okay. —it's okay! yeah. good. —you sure? i think so. how do you know? it doesn't come with a manual, and you like ooh, i got the 20,000—day checkup, right? let me show you something. put two fingers right on those pads. look at that! that's your heart! that is pretty awesome. with kardiamobile, you can take a medical—grade ekg
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>> what you just saw was first round. there will be more action taken against the irgc and the groups they're backing. >> that was john kirby earlier talking about the biden administration strikes in the middle east. fine update on a couple big stories before we go. u.s. and u.k. struck 36 houthi targets in yemen saturday working to degrade the group from continuing to hit global shipping vessels in the red sea. early sunday morning u.s. central command says it also conducted an additional strike against the houthi anti-cruise ship missile. all this comes after friday's separate strikes on iran proxies in iraq and syria launched in
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response to the january 28th drone attack in jordan that killed three u.s. service members. bombers hit 85 targets in 7 location including command and control head quarter, drone and ammunition storage sites and other facilities. turning to the border crisis. senators are facing a standoff over whether or not they can move legislation aimed at including a border deal which would overhaul the asylum system and funding for aid priorities in ukraine and israel before a recess scheduled just days from now. on the campaign trail, president biden is headed to las vegas ahead of tuesday's democratic primary before winning his party's south carolina primary last night with 96% of the vote. quick note my podcast living the bream drops this morning. this morning i talk with trey yingst about life in israel. we talk about domestic politics here, there. all the complications, as many groups including hezbollah,
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