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intelligence director camila h hhs, and attorney general. >> we are going to reduce regulation, waste and fraud and inefficiency, we are going to clean out the corrupt, broken and failing bureaucracies. >> we look at reaction from spike johnson who just won the gop nomination for a full two-year term, as democrats determine how they can best looks their power in a new washington. we will talk with their him and his fellow or the illustrator chris coons plus the trump agenda and what it means for foreign policy and the economy. >> you have to start my term from november 5th because the market has gone through the roo enthusiasm has doubled. >> all right now on fox news sunday ♪ ♪. >> hello from foxnews in washington, here's a quick look at your headlines. russia launched a massive drone and missile attacks on ukraine overnight targeting energy infrastructure. president since he said ukrainian forces shut down 140

air targets but there is damage to power and water supplies. president biden met one-on-one with jenny present saturday at the asian-pacific economic cooperation summit in peru wher china has just open a massive seaport. the president said he is ready to work with the incoming trump administration. meanwhile pressure for precipitated by usc fight in madison square garden last nigh getting a rousing welcome from the crowd and joined by many of his brain cabinet picks the but the house speaker mike johnson was there. we will speak with him in a moment and later senator chris coons joined us as well but first we turn to team coverage with kevin correct covering the final weeks of the biden administration in the white house and bill reporting a president elect trump's in west palm beach. this that's where we begin. hello, mobile. >> hicken shannon co. good morning. president elect trump and transition team in palm beach fish based moving at record speed when it comes to filling out his future administration

bill if they made more than a dozen pics this last week alone. some have bipartisan support from others are raising some eyebrows. elect trump taking a victory la and you at ufc fight night at madison square garden, after a busy week building his second administration. his choices this past week include marco rubio for secretary of state, mike walz for national security adviser advisor adviser to john radcliffe for cia director, dou bergen for secretary of the interior, and christine norm fo homeland security secretary. >> we have for his or her boss that donald trump has kept as a golden age of america can and h is putting of hard-working people into these positions. >> but other choices have been more controversial, including trump's election for health and human services secretary. >> today i nominated him for, i guess if your account and your people live a long time, it's the most important position, rf junior.

>> we need to structure across the entire government and he'll do just that. >> schedule the summation of needed health center. >> trump narrating matt gaetz returning to her bleeding senator martin heinrich to post "people voted for cheaper eggs, that whatever the h this is ca call. about republican senators are not sold yet either. >> he's got a steep hill to climb to get lots of boats including mine. >> trump also tapping army veteran and former fox news colleague pete hegseth as secretary of defense and former democratic presidential candidate, not republican, tuls gabbard, as director of nationa intelligence. >> the question that we have to i'll all ask colin are these th best individuals available. >> and trump has said he wants recess appointments to potentially be on the table to push his picks through without senate confirmation if necess necessary. incoming gop senate majority leader john thune tells fox new

that he is looking at every single option, including those, controversial recess appointments. they will all be in the table essentially gives trump the people he wants whenever we com down to it. shanna, we will send it back to you see >> shannon bream: will talk about that quite a bit in the show today. room illusion reporting from west palm beach. not to see the initial correspondent kevin couric at the white house. >> shannon more than two months or any office for mister biden but that does not mean the lame lame-duck period will be an inactive one for the biden whit white hospital plenty on the agenda. as you know just wrapping up a number of ambitious closing international global confere conferences, from peru to the amazon rain forest, to brazil. where mister biden just inches from climate change to global governance and the economy economy. fax today back in peru mister biden presumably meant for the last time with jenny president changing ping whose country jus opened a major seaport there an was front and center of leaders

photo from, while shockingly mister biden was consigned to the upper right-hand corner. what he does this pick when he returned to the white house, mister biden is expected to rol up his sleeves and press ahead with his domestic agenda which includes partnering with congressional lawmakers by allocating any remaining authorized resources from media initiatives here at home as wel as additional funding for support of the war in ukraine and israel abroad. and speaking of congressional lawmakers where there is a fulsome to do list as well including excellent efforts to keep the government funded to the holidays to pick up any additional federal disaster aid as well as pushing the bill ove the finish line and getting the right money for the national defense authorization and, of course, to confirm judges but with a special especially important for democrats who are concerned about the looming gop control at both ends of pennsylvania avenue. which, of course, is all to say the president is eager to get back to work as memories of his legacy and his and, of course,

the loss in november make way for the final verdict on his term in office, shannon >> shannon bream: all right, kevin couric reporting at the white house. tate taken bill not to the interview interview with house speaker mike johnson. the speaker after late night an early morning, back to fox news sunday. >> great to be with you. >> shannon bream: let's start here promote the house ethics committee has been investigatin the president's nominees former kirschman now matt gaetz up for attorney general turbo and they say their friday meeting was postponed not cancel but it doesn't look like that report that have come from them is going to be released democrat look at democrat johnson different -- here's what iv sai about first thing that report. >> there is precedent for that bill but i can't get into what is going on now but the fact that someone has left the congress does not mean that the report can't be released or additional information for that matter >> shannon bream: so you know our intrepid ten program,

commercial correspondent said there are at least two terms or turns our report had been released after a member left congress. why y against transparency? this report may clear him befor somebody who would be the top federal enforcement officer in this country >> speaker2: yeah so i don't know anything about the content of the report but the way the rules work, of course, the speaker of the house can't put them on the scale or be involved in an ethics committee report. what i do know is that the comments about this being -- there is a precedent for recent reports is not exactly accurate yet there are no two breaches o tradition in the past under ver various ordinary circumstances. i don't think this meets that criteria. look, matt gaetz is a colleague of mine but from research together more than eight years but he is one of the brightest minds in washington or anywhere for that man and he knows everything about how the debt that just justice had been recognized and misused. he would be a reformer and i think that is why they say thes this nourishment in washington is so shaken up about this pick. but with regard to report there is a very important reason for the tradition and the rule that

we always have almost always followed and that is that we don't issue investigations and ethics reports on people who ar not members of congress. i'm afraid that would open a pandora's box because the jurisdiction of the ethics committee is limited to those who are serving in the institution. davis that is its very purpose but i think this will be a breach of protocol that can be dangerous for us going forward in the future. >> so his nomination will have to go to the senate confirmatio judiciary committee but that will be a long process. our next guest coming up in you chris coons, is part of that, m and says the report should be released but he is not the only one bill is not just democrats. here is where republican senato john cornyn said. >> i think there should be no limitation on the senate judiciary committee's investigation including whateve the house ethics committee has generated. stewart he is open to issuing a subpoena to the house ethics committee. how do you see this playing out?

>> speaker johnson: i hope the ethics committee will stick by our tradition and protocol police please police are just particular. i think this would take us down a on a path where i don't know how we would return. if the house ethics committee and its resources which are significant and substantial could be used to investigate people who are not in the house then where will that end to get a meeting people recognize that function of functional government has well. the reason that matt gates is such an exciting practice only people is because he will go in and before the depth of justice. it desperately needs a biblical he and i sat committee together for almost seven years before i became speaker the of the house and we heard the evidence. we saw the evidence of law for her law for her. the depth that justice had been used for political purposes, ho they targeted catholics in some examples, and parents and schoo boards, and pro-life americans. this is not what arsenal justic was built to do abel and matt gaetz will go when in there and shake it up but i think most of the american people understand that's an important function

keys. >> well, to be. he is a member when the message was underway but will seal the metal -- have how the battle ma be in the house as we plant as he proceeds and confirmation. meanwhile press trump made it clear if he's nominees get stuc he wants the senate to move ahead and possibly the house cooperating with the idea of recess appointments. ford says that lawmakers in bot the house and senate would have to agree for with him to adjour for more than ten days as a condition requires both chamber to agree in order to adjourn fo more than three days. there have to be house and senate action. nash review says about your ro role, the very idea that the speaker of the house would collude with the president to undermine the senate's constitutional role and effectively make the legislativ branch a passive plaything of the executive should not raise any member of congress. would you take steps to put things into recess so there's those apartments could happen? >> speaker johnson: listen, i believe in the principal of a new president bring them to choose his team and that you se

should not be controversy controversial notion. we are in a, very divided government and a very partisan atmosphere in washington. i wish it were not. i wish the senate was to a troubled advice and consent and allow the president to put the persons in his cabinet of his choosing. but if this thing bogs down it will be a great detriment to th country come going to the american people. remember they still remanded to prison and overwhelming popular vote victory and, of course, electoral college victory. and they have sent the a messag that the america first policies should be the rule of the day but purpose of the persons that the president is choosing will help with an agenda. they will take their in these agencies and they will reform them and the people expect and demand. we will evaluate all of that at the appropriate time and we wil make the appropriate person. there may be a function for th that. will have to see how it plays out >> shannon bream: you had a specialty as a constitutional lawyer but i knew your four years in that role before he proceeded it's what you're doin

now. he hears here is the most eternal and its role board on the conditionality of these recent points saying it's unconditional, anti-anticancer national anti-transitional. it would eliminate one of the basic checksum power the party built into the american system of government. if mister trump gets away with it, the next democrat to win th oval office would look through left-wing nominees and were hol the presidency would gain unilateral power to name cranks and cronies to offices of immense authority. you talked about opening a pandora's box by going against tradition earlier in the show bro but isn't that what this would do? would you worry about a democra president is installing whomeve he or she wanted without the restrictions of the senate confirmation process? >> look i've been a jealous guardian of the constitution my entire life and it was my caree before i became to congress and i've demonstrated over and over that we will have banality to our oath which is pull uphold the constitution but was purpos so we evaluate all these very carefully. i am so pathetic to these arguments. and i said what we want to see

how this develops people i'm hopeful, very hopeful, the senate will do his job, and the provided it provides advice and consent and movies nominees along. have an obligation to do a rating of every nominee and the will build and we will see how this plays out but i think all of the hyperbole and everything on the front end here is to distract the american people an to try to stall press trump in delivering a pond that made it again that the people have give him i know he's excited to get to work. i think all spent all day yesterday with him at mayor la lago, a long day of hard work and then we went ultimately and had some fun at the fc fight last night. he is in a good place. he is ready to govern and the people he is choosing are ready to do the same. and i think that's going to be good thing for the country. >> . , "we know you've got a big agenda and but first in this lame-duck session you got to figure out funding the government. we run out of the money and for if you live on december 20th, 2 f-2 or at least in part. so what is a plan? a short-term measure? a long-term effort? i new york to all the

appropriation bills passed. is it possible to do that? what do we do come that cliff? >> speaker johnson: well, is getting more and more difficult to get all those bills down. here is the reason why. the house has done its work wit the senate has not been a chuck schumer is still democrat leade in the senate and he has refuse to put a single appropriations bill on the floor. that is not how the process is supposed to work so it's broken down in that regard. so we are running out of clock. december 20 is the deadline. we are still hopeful we might b able to get that done. it's not a that we will have a temporary measure i think it would go into the first part of next year and allow us necessar time to get this done. i think it would that would be ultimately a good move because the country would benefit from it because he would then have republican control and we would have more say in what those spending bills are. the reform agenda begins in earnest and soon as soon as president donald j trump takes the office in january. and we have a full agenda to ru bill is going to be a very

aggressive first hundred days o the new congress and we are getting all the members of congress ready for that. the house had been preparing fo this for almost a year and now the senate under its new of you leader lacked soon, he and i me this weekend talk about this aggressive agenda and he told m he is ready to go and deliver the america first policies produced which will be a very busy time for congress and a good time for the country. >> >> shannon bream: we know you have a majority again and asked in a way to see in the last few seasons two seats in the lot an watch as agenda get up in january. we should pick speak mister. continued take you for your ti time. always great to have you >> speaker johnson: thank you s much more good to be with you >> shannon bream: we will get perspective from the other side of the aisle with democrat senator chris coons, and then all this talk of recent appointments i could think take the center of the confirmation process but with that includes rfk jr. for health and human services secretary. that nomination are coming up after this.

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stuart president-elect trump bradley washington by us with schmidt some smith some cabinet nominations including robert f katie jr. as health and human services secretary. his controversy controversial views are right back in as his partner. joining me now johns hopkins professor jordan may carry also the author of, "blind spots cor when medicine gets it wrong and what it means for healthcare. what have you back on. you spend time with rfk jr. and you know his coach richard june's district views and not creature beating him up. a piece in the washington post

says he is either unable to understand the scientific process to form the base of modern medicine or he purposely ignored the research one conclusions both support his preconceived notions. either explanation is disqualifying for someone overseeing the nation's health and science. >> i think if you listen to wha he's talking about, he's very clear about what he wants to do both number 1 he was to address corruption in healthcare and corruption in our government health agencies. is not don't like that message and are threatened by a. number 2,, here to get back to evidence-based research and he was to fund research that led t the big questions of our day. and number 3, he was to addressed the to address the child's chronic disease epide epidemic. young people are concerned the food supplies poison the kids are growing up in a toxic milie and we are drugging kids get in the american academy of pediatrics' posting was epic an six euros. he is talking about health and chronic diseases that shouldn't be a political message. i think you are seeing a lot of people unite around that mess message. parents, effective on the campaign and i think they are delivering on that now

>> shannon bream: i have seen this within those within the medical community, your peers opposing about thing we agree with him on a lot of that stuff belittles our conversations we need to have been over them ove there very worried about his authority over agencies that ar very important when it comes to things like vaccines and public health. >> i would say people should no dissect what he said 30 years ago and listen to what he's saying now. he is saying very clearly he is not anti-vaccine and will not remove or take away anyone's vaccines. and what is scary and dangerous to health is not rfk jr. it's what people just witnessed. it's the food pyramid like that's been out there for 60 years. is a medical establishment that lied to us for opioids for 20 years saying it was an addict addictive. maxey made it saying that for national media o'clock masks on timers. that is what is driving a lot o this trust in the medical establishment, not rfk jr. >> there are also those who object within a the airport in part because of issues on abortion whose position say for vice president pitts with american freedom to put this on x saying he will be the most pro-abortion and focal point of

hhs in modern history says i'm strictly urging senate republicans to reject this nomination but there's the abortion issue to conservatives that they have concerns about with him >> senator coons: i don't know his views on abortion but i do know his views on addressing a lot of these chronic diseases and the issues of the food supply. if you look at the path that we are on as a is our country, is not a good path. we are watching so many chronic diseases go up. early onset alzheimer's has tripled. cantor cancer in young people under age 50 has gone up by 79%. we are looking at half our nation's children are sick. we are looking at 40 our nati nation's children there was a mental health diagnosis diagnoses. one in five kids on medication. so what he's really focused on is this concept that we can't keep drugging our nation nation children going down this path. that is what is dangerous >> shannon bream: real quickly, if you are to be confirmed, how much comes authority we have to make real progress on all those things you mentioned in maybe

four years? >> i think you want to bring in a lot of scientists from highly respected institutions and let them do good work and i think that's the focus. he is really the quintessential environment to and health attorney of our iraq. and that may be the of our area if we look at our status in terms of health. the central issue in healthcare is the health of the population but is not health insurance and how we finance the broken healthcare system, is how we fi it. so for the first time ever we are announcing a focus on addressing the health of our nation's nations children and their chronic disease epidemic. that is exciting a lot of peopl peter, well, for a lot of peopl it's a shock to the same so we will see how this plays a pool doctor to get to see you. joining me now cannot tell, delaware democratic senator chris coons who would be somebody voting on all these different confirmations. senator, good to see you >> senator coons: good to see because shannon can think for a chance to be on again here let' talk about rfk junior because there are people within the medical steps in community who

have some problems with him but you like the things he is highlighting. a new york times just yes sa d dr. rachel bedard says, i believe there is a healthcare agenda that finds common ground between people like myself, medical researchers and clinicians, and mister kennedy. there's opportunity to leverage mister candy kenny's skepticism and political independence for good to turn his most valid criticisms of the american healthcare system into constructive reforms. are you open to sitting down an have these kind of conversation with him about where he really stands out all issues? >> senator coons: of course. and you introduce me, shannon, as someone who will get a chanc to vote on all of these nominations. certainly hope that's the case. and that we won't see nominees jammed through in recess appointments where there is no commission hearing, no confirmation vote and they take over incredibly powerful positions for up to 2 years. of course, i be willing to meet with president-elect trump's nominees unbearable i did the previous time he was president.

i voted on many of them. and i look forward to meeting with rfk jr. i have to say, though, that his long record of being an ant anti-vaccine campaigner gives m real pause and concern. that will be the first thing i would ask them up because the fact that american children are vaccinated against things like measles, mumps and rubella keep us safe. and save millions of lives a year. so into the bottom of his real views on a wide range of issues from maxine's vaccines to dietary supplements, to the research work of cdc,, nih and fda, and whether he is pro-choice or pro-life, all tha would be important for us to ge some clarity on she was just a few days ago he said he's not anti-vaccine and he doesn't accept that label given to him. he says he is for being more transparent. he will not block any vaccines for people or for four kids for kids or whatever but he said he wants people to have more of th scientific information and studies that have gone on behin the vaccines. is that kind of conversation --

the deposition, without the comforting or acceptable to you to hear him say it and articulated in that way? >> senator coons: yes. look, shannon, the whole point to of a confirmation process is to have meetings with those who have been nominated to run incredibly significant and powerful agencies and get clarity on their views, they their experience and their character. is why frankly has been both great consternation in the senate about matt gaetz nominated to be the next attorney general because of rea concern about his character. and there is generally real positivity about senator marco rubio being nominated to be the next secretary of state. senator rubio has served in a leading role on the intelligenc committee on the foreign relations committee, for 14 years. he is a conservative republican. he had and i differ on some key policies. but he is someone i've worked with legislated withdrawal traveled with. matt gaetz on the other hand, i someone who just resigned in order to avoid the public release of a bipartisan report

of the house ethics committee that might very well have cast very damning allegations agains his character and conduct in th congress soon we don't know wha it says. anderson earlier, the deal she decided to not charge him in february of last year but the health ethics issue, you obviously called for it to be released. you are not the only one. republicans including dunkin' and others as well saying he will be open to subpoena bill d you think you will be a bipartisan supports from the committee to do what you need t do to get your hands on that report? >> yes. to be clear about what speaker johnson said before on the because the ethics committee loses jurisdiction to disciplin a member when they are no longe a member on several occasions i the past the house ethics committee has reached a report when someone has met -- and mat gets adjusted, resigned at the last moment in order to avoid the release of a report of from some might say why is it

relevant now? is relevant because the senate has a constitutional role. is called our advice and consen role going to make sure that he president-elect's usually gets their choice, they are nominees but doesn't get to put people i who are unqualified or who lack the requisite character and ability to lead over incredibly poor agencies like the deal jmack. >> interesting to see if the subpoenas come from your committee is to get to this and generator. but absent this, the conversation about recent storm that make up the center of this process all together potentiall what do you think that all republicans are all 53 of them once you flip into the new year if the mccormick sheet holds holes in hold is expected to recount what do you think all o them would go to vote to adjour the senate? do you think there is some republican colleagues of yours who would say we're not going t agenda adjourn the senate and g along with this recession wrong? >> likely s, shannon because they understand our constitutional role. we are a check and balance. we are there to be a guard rail.

you said earlier a wall street journal that said frankly i think you think the confirmatio process out and you only put in the cabinet as a result of recess appointments, then there is a real risk that future demonstrations in my future future presidents, will jam in increasingly marginal character who are there because of their popularity or their celebrity o what they have said, who lack the requisite skill and experience, policy views and character, to lead what are hug and an intricate intricate federal agencies. i agree with that view you feel there's something else being worked on called up stepped tha top topic of the. it won't be official government entity but run by elon musk and. vickram almost vikram almost told me they were to highlight what they say is from time to commit fraud relation, to me make sure employees it employs blue wall street editorial boar says this thing can be trump. they say the attempt to tame an strengthen his in the myosin is worth the toil and it is essential to liberty americans from the tyranny of the expanding administer the state.

you know there are these government which report to come up for members every year pulling out all kinds of crazy things the american taxpayer ha no idea they are funding from a what you make of this effort? they come to congress and suggestions you have to act on or have opportunity to act on it. is a worthwhile exercise? >> look, when president clinton came to office one of the thing he asked his vice president al gore to do was to lead a commission to look at your deficiency and operation. they work closely with folks in the bureaucracy who knew better than anyone where there were things that they were doing tha were unnecessary or duplicative of and they actually actually save billions and billions of dollars per shannon, we also already have an agency called the gal, the general accounting office that does reports. as you mentioned they released member of congress that highlight areas of inefficiency and waste and operations. the numbers that vikram is forming an elon musk have throw out that they might be able to

cut $2 trillion on government spending, there's no way to achieve that kind of savings without killing the critical functions like social security and medicare, medicaid and veterans health care. but they could save tens or eve hundreds of billions of dollars. depending on how it is structured and what they do, this could be a constructive undertaking that ought to be embraced. but frankly it is somewhat amusing to me that they have chosen two billionaires with no programming experience to run this entity whatever it will be and that one of them is a major government contractor. i think it is important that we proceed with transparency and guardrails. look, it six access with your musk and bids may mean he has inserted to operational efficiency. but but it amazed me frankly that it takes two of these folk to put together an organization on government efficiency and i look forward to having a conversation about what that path forward can and should loo like so we achieved some progress for the american peo

people. >> two persons or guys who say they are doing it for $0 so tha is a cost-cutting measure acros the top. sounds good thank you for your time, always good to see you >> senator coons: thank you, shannon >> shannon bream: okay so we mentioned elon musk and vivek ramaswamy are trying to go for person president because the federal bureaucracy. our panel is going 2 into this. is limited depth epic that the government efficiency or does r fower how we could shake up washington next. the type a cpa. the bootstrapper. the bootmaker. yeehaw [narrator] but many do have something in common. we all trust schwab with our wealth. [narrator] thanks to our award-winning service, low costs and transparent advice. every day, over a million multi-millionares trust schwab with more than two trillion dollars of their wealth. bent finger appointment in 30 minutes.

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>> by but it can you take the oath of office hopefully it wil it'll nominees will be to confirmation hearings and be ready to act on them on the senate floor but there is that is a question of how much to th do democrats resist or object o try to block those nominations from getting forward and we wil bring them out to an incoming senate majority leader john doing for sharing confirmation as by former president trump's memories are possible recent supplements. let's talk about with our study group for which it the state senate candidate tiffany smiley kevin roberts here to present, fox news unit political analyst juan williams and steph kind, co-author of axial cheerleaders newsletter. welcome everyone is pinot interesting been no interesting week in washington i think it's fair to say. >> exciting. >> you have a number of these senators now choosing their

words very carefully i think is the right thing to say. but, staff, then have to know there are these types that serv if you don't support all these nominees on the republican side you may make it primary and a a margo premier and they got a cake at that. >> look at cassidy for example who has had been at times with would vote against the party line but has come out preferabl for people like our erica jr., his apartment and others but also people differently walking a narrow line here as these are not have come out the summer proteins have expressed concern about some of these especially matt gaetz had been one that i was in the human that came out and was talking to senate republicans who seem to indicat pretty clearly think it is goin be a tough road for medicaid to get to bill, of course, did not make it is right now but it's clear that these controversial pics are going to have pretty rough processes even if eager t get across the finish line in the end. there'll be some real questions asked, and the there are still

handful of republicans, six or or seven i can name, who are no going to be able to be discounted on the book book for anyone through national view says revoking centers door cour dort reviews -- resist or poste but even they might discover some hint of institutional prid if the president demands a senate certain sort of operatio we can circumvent the constitutionally required commission process and put in place cabinet officials that most senators oppose. so kevin, how to display play out in reality? >> i think we will see recent points and it's a a support the support rep. as a historian if you only don' learn lesson from the past and repeat the same mistakes and what to make if have said not just conservatives, shannon, is that they want a trip administration and a cabinet filled with men and women replace the ordinary american ahead of joseph washington. from our heritage friend and fellow come home and as the borders are rfk and the 80 hhs secretary tom marco rubio --

marco rubio asked as secretary of state as a is meant to be said that we can have your institutional prerogative to th american people want their country back. his morning in america again an the senate need to understand that junior and i were together on election night and have this weird more analysis what announcers talk more than one won 10,000 people and tractor them over a period of time to see what is motivating their vote. more than i think 82% said that they either wanted to take to change or a complete upheaval. i mean, they want that bill the there seem to be some appetite for his controversial pics. >> absolutely. the thing about it to me is there are conservatives who i would say are credentialed and qualified to do major jobs in this town like rome run the defense department. but when i look at the nominees of president elect trump, i think he is like casting the apprentice. i think it looks like a parody. and many people -- steph was issued on the hill talking to revoking centers, didn't say democrats. and republicans have questions.

it looks like the priority here is not about serving those people who are faithful what washington disrupted, it looks like it's about, are you a trum loyalist. will you really do what i tell you and not interfere with the white house prerogative in setting the agenda for washington in going after enemies within an and vendettas? you know, to keep his point about recess appointments, the senate that we know now is goin to be 53-47, shannon verbal ribble and with that you would think, well, g, if these were qualified people, you wouldn't have any trouble getting them confirmed. the advice and consent function would be fine. it's a report and send it. but i think the fact that they are not qualified people is why you are hearing talk of recess appointments and why there is pressure being put on republicans to advocate this might abdicate their response ability to screen. >> because the senate which use

which was the instant they move faster to do the will of the american people to and the american people made a loud and clear with what trump trump winning popular mode. estimated for our country. >> did but there is a senate role to walk them through and that may be house house ethics committee and whether with that -- politico says lawmakers basically left with them two options here. they can reach their long-running report to his alleged misconduct and risk president trump's wrath or keep it under wraps and faced accusations of repetitious candles information about a nominee for attorney general an those powerful enforcement official in the country. tiffany what do we get to see that? to senators who are going to vote get to see that? >> stef: there's plenty of wiggle room, 53 seconds with house majority in the senate an the house. there's an opportunity here for tristram to get his nomination through and this is exactly wha the american people want. they made it loud and clear, 26

watching for i want to make a point appointment applicable because obama had 32 recess appointments. so when it comes to matt gaetz is a mandate for change. it's a breakthrough of status quo. hughes on the judiciary committee so he believes in the rule of law bobo donald trump had been clear that he is there to root out corruption in the doj. and exec with the american people looking forward to in th next four years. >> if this was a democrat and the kind of sexual potential sexual crimes we are discussing i think conservatives would be up in arms. >> doj didn't charge him last year and we don't know if the house as ethics committee clear to cleared in. i mean, we just don't know so i think senators will continue to try to fight and get that information. in the meantime i do want to talk about does and chris trump said about his buddy illness ca distract. >> he likes his place.

i can't get out of here. he just likes this place the space below and you know what i like having him here one of the things he'll be tasked with doing he and vivek ramaswamy is the governor of district department of beneficiary which was printed on x november 14th. we need superhigh acute more government revolutionaries willing to work 80 plus hours per week on all unglamorous cost-cutting. eland himself followed up with tweet saying indeed this will b tedious work. make lots of enemies. and compensation is zero. what a great deal? >> i mean is not the first time he saw commission that looks like -- is not the first time the government has looks to try to save american taxpayers and all of that. it will be itching to see how someone like you elon musk kind of takes on this role as well a transfer and the big question i whether they try to find ways t implement their suggestions on their own without congress. that's the big question right mark now, congress is in charge of appropriating funds were usually coming up to congress t decide where money should be cu

or more funding provided. and we have been hearing that the trump folks are looking at options and ways to kind of cut spending on the round so that's the biggest thing we are watching here because they can make submissions all they want but if there's not a way to really implement them, then it' hard to see how much change the can provide. >> kevin in the legal experts out there are saying, if they try to do some sort of run around congress on these cuts t on these ideas, that will light up in court like they want. >> sure. that's fair. i don't see this for them is attempting to do and can in round, shannon bobo i see there said in a city and 30,000-foot view or something that every or almost every american acknowledges which is at the very least on its best day the federal government is inefficient and we need to improve it on behalf of the everyday american. there's another facet that i think we to think about and tha is by enlisting americans as volunteers not only will they get better ideas but perhaps they will improve the level of trust that americans have in th

federal government bill and i would like to think that that i something that even one and i i liberals can, conservatives, centers, with think is good id idea. >> i agree. elon musk in the richest man in the world, i think, and he made his money-based based and government spending and government regulations. if is looking out for himself o if you're looking for the american taxpayer here because the spec. >> the american dream thinking about excellence and ingenuity in his country is exactly what this is but i know him and donald trump have talked and i know they have great ideas but they do girl things in the private sector. took the american people want. i mean, he was a rock and to th moment moon. one decka working in an agency in our government. >> he should be accountable. >> what they will do not think that for government money allegedly doing this and publisher publish everything online so most of them can see what we are paying for. which i think most of us would like to know to impanel this week we can week and a judge if judges do to make a decision whether or not president trump will be set sentenced on criminal charges but. that's next.

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judges and the doj, he should stop this nonsense right away. >> top attorney in the harbor arguing for the elect new york from the case should be tossed. we are awaiting the judge's decision to the end we are back with our panel. one, i'm guessing he was a angr at a realtor her? >> juan: well, to me i'm not sure about the law but i am sur about this, that what i heard from my conservative colleagues this morning is president elect trump won the popular vote. i think it is very hard right now for the trust just department or any judge to say this because he present elect must go to jail. it just seems like wow. >> something short of jail. i mean, there could be if he decides the case survived and there is something you is you should. >> series an elderly man, right and typically that would be factored in, as well as the fac that he was convicted and penalties paid. so you are right, there are other ways that he could be penalized. >> and what you think he does? i mean, judge marchand has move

and moved and noticing it looks like we are due for a decision. >> well, art works and legal scholar jonathan turley called it right. he calls in a circus people and maybe the circus master will finally realize the gig is up. that's what were hoping for. that's what we'll be right and just people even people who didn't vote for print trump to want want to point think typhus to come to a close has passed. every decision he's made, every decision that judge has made, has favored the prosecution, which is really a political persecution that no one in this country should stand for. >> i did she to do a trial and can say cancel, yes, i don't think there's anything he decided in favor of the trip legal team that they were arguing for. >> so that the jury. >> the dream and it i didn't se but you know the judge can shap things and every events on the way and he is not a trump fan i think it's fair to say. over over it was smc a legal analyst right on their blog, a jury found him guilty. dismissing the case out outrigh would out right what is jury's verdict and generally would not make sense but trump could argu it would interfere with his he didn't have the sentencing hanging over him but that is hi

problem. he was convicted of a private citizen. tiffany, would want what about that argument? 3630 shortness of certain circumstances but i think the court was clear when they ruled that press trump has a need for criminal liability while in office. on official duties. >> yes, official duties, yes. but to be clear, anytime this i brought up the american people tuning out. they are tired of it. they want to talk about securin our border. they want to talk about the economy and that is exactly wha they voted for. i'm voting for press trump. >> so we got to federal cases, one of them here in dc, one dow in florida, and jack smith special counsel and asked the cause of both of those to put this on hold and says you have report by december 2nd. looked like he was will step down but there's more potential to comparable and be reported the looming question in the weeks and it is rather a whethe she is stressful report detailing charging decisions within a public porn for inauguration day posters coun counsel's office is required under justice department

regulations to provide a coverage report to attorney joe merrick garland who can choose to make it public. do you think the doj is like we are closing this chapter or is there that one last dig at here's what we are alleging the president did? >> you can see it going is a what i do think that the justic department has been very aware of the political dynamics and i is hard to imagine that trump winning as resoundingly as he did and he's antilynching off office, the deal jmack we decid to release something like that right at the end. i find that hard to believe but you never know probe and there also is the question of the american people also want to know what has been going on there? what are the findings? what is behind the the decision making at the same time so they can also be an argument for reaching a report like that and it's point to american people i what the investigation has looked like, this is what has come out of her. whether it would be helpful to the political conversation is another question. >> i think there's one other factor which is there maybe may be other people who could be

charged and other people who have gone to jail because of hi january 6th. so the question is, will have a impact on these other cases? >> we will have to wait and see. but i also want to note this week that fema administrator da criswell will be on a on capito hill after work of the story where fema worker campus or there were they were notes that she had said to avoid trump and she is saying that came from above her and she is being scapegoated and it was about making sure they boarded computations. apparently there's been your experience with some homes. he she is talking to gallagher and fox news that night to this house also happen in other our place? this was for but didn't happen in north carolina and other places? >> george as well. just ask asked the crew reading specialists. we it was discussed their voice and their installation there wa in the field. and i think ms. criswell would be happy to know what's going o truly. >> q1 one when this happened

criswell talked talk about this employee, it was reprehensible, we are taking care of us with this person no longer with up about this woman is saying she got his orders from someone els and it is more widespread than we know. how much more grueling you thin your administration will get on the hill? shoulde looked into. it's wrong. if you can't do that but if he it is cremated because anybody can against portable, people living off the grid or whatever of those people deserve help in the midst of crisis people i will say that what we heard fro republican governors and polka mayors and county officials was that fema was about out there and doing their job was but als it's inconsistent with that. i don't know the truth of what this woman said to him and the idea that anybody would be left by government and attended an need is wrong. >> subject of this one of those none ever came into a lame lame-duck period one of the hearing that might actually get attention. >> i think it's important for hard question to be asked about this situation and i think it's very unfortunate but this was this fact could have been isolated and innocent and could have been a broader issue but i

comes in the context of already massive distrust and fema. it already comes with people feel like they can't turn to th government to take care of them talk to protect them and they are of need. to when they are facing disas disaster. i have family near asheville i went to visit and volunteered volunteer a bit after the storm there and i heard from people who really did not feel like they're being served the way they should sue and i would als like that woman was having to smith to testify on her because she felt like she generally was up as a minister to understand what's going on both men should be part of the hearing want to build on the a member of the commission i don't have any control of that still okay. thank you very much and we'll see you next sunday. coming up a sneak preview, in a in-depth look at the lives of catholic saints who, flaws and all, by a world-renowned hollywood heavyweight. coming to vaccination. district coming district coming to vaccination. fox nation d ekg that provides six-times more heart data than any smartwatch.

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>> shannon bream: we have a fascinating new series debuting on fox nation today. about the first episode of what martin scorsese presents the saints it's available on fo foxnation.com. the series looks into religious figures as people who struggle just like we do. we sit down interview on the side of the saints to talk abou

the episode on joan of arc. >> 14-year-old girl will girl hears voices. voices of saints, the word of god. they tell her to dress in men's clothes, organized organize in america lead french soldiers in developed to put the boat about what she does but she becomes a political liability. she is captured, she is trying tried, condemned and burned at the stake. and at that point a dumb dub source from out of the firso i think that's very compelling. >> was scorsese presents the saints is available exclusively on fox nation starting to build and a quick note to my podcast living the dream jumped in toda set sit there with senator kati britt to talk about challenges come to the senate when it come to gop control in january from and about her book, "god calls us to do hard things cool. living the dream or anywhere yo like to get your, podcasts. thanks for joining us, i'm shannon bream. have a wonderful week. i'll see you next on fox news sunday.

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