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senate republicans face mounting pressure to get behind trumps nominees with 36 days until inauguration. >> all the conversations have been grating constructed. >> reporter: meeting with republicans and in this case democrats. trump's cabinet hopefuls for key lawmakers as hesitant republicans face growing pressure from the president-elect allies. senator thom tillis on how the controversial pixar favoring in the upper chamber. >> we have no evidence that the drone shining's have a public safety threat. don't look up. the white house facing increasing pressure to answer questions about those mysterious drones. the top democrat on house intel joins us as calls for investigation rise. plus. the brazen murder that captivated american no sparking

debate over the nation's health insurance industry. our sunday panel discusses the impact is the impact has divisions across the country. all right now on fox news sunday. ♪ ♪ hello from fox news and washington. here's a quick look at some of the top headlines this morning. abc news has agreed to pay $15 million to settle a defamation suit brought on by donald trump. trump filed the suit against the network and its top anchor after hearing correctly asserted ten times in an interview that trump was found liable for in the civil suit with e. jean carroll. abc news publish an editor's note expressing regret over the statements. south korea's parliament voted to impeach the president over his decree of martial law earlier this month. for now all presidential powers are headed into the prime minister. the court has up to 180 days to determine whether to dismissed

him as president. army hyphenate had a one hunter 20 the addition of the game in landover, maryland. president-elect trump attended with members of's upcoming administration and navy upset and army 31-13. live at the white house with the details and the guest list for trumps sweet. >> good to be with you. quite the guest list and president biden attended the army-navy game several times while vice president but never in office. president-elect trump asked appearance at the showdown since 2016 and this year he was doing some political quarterbacking of his own. just 15 miles an the white house president-elect trump was greeted northwest stadium by cheers and chants. offering a salute as the national anthem played. the impressive records of both army and navy boosted in anticipation what oh take place

on the field but the formation of trumps proposed national defense team provided similar intrigue. trump was joined by vice president to be j.d. vance along with nominee for director intelligence and department secretary pick. both are requiring extra effort by team trump to ensure support needed for confirmation. >> we had a meeting and had conversations and that's where we're at. there is no new news after that conversation. >> reporter: there's 53 republicans, all of us got there by the strength of our own character and our campaigns and our ability to make decisions regardless of where the pressure points maybe. >> reporter: florida government rhonda santos attended us had a twist. he had once... after allegations involving headsets personal life came to life. irene veteran daniel penney was invited as advances guest five

days after being acquitted to ththe new york subway choking death of jordan neely. at trump side you would've seen the incoming senate majority leader and also the house speaker mike johnson. he's also a naval academy dad. >> alex things. joining us now as north carolina senator thom tillis. senator thank you so much for joining us. >> good morning. >> the president-elect's team is sending pressure through various emissaries getting on board with his nominees were you will be primary to. the senator said the message was like this. we've got you here and if we want you to survive leo better be good. don't get on santa's naughty list because we will primary you. heritage action is already pressuring yes votes on these nominees in an ad campaign targeting you and eight other senators but trump only won your states by 3.2 points in a year

that was good for republicans and you've got a general election to worry about. you're one of the top two republican senators that democrats hope to unseat next cycle. what's your message trump over these primary threats? >> it's not to trump. i've a great relationship with the transition team and i'm working to try to make sure that everyone of his nominees get a fair treatment and committee. a lot of this are third parties that are making money from the fund-raising campaigns, to put some adds in there but double digit percentages are going into their pockets. here's what i would tell them. if they really support president trumps nominees they should stand down and let the nominees win on their own merits and i think most of them will. president trump had a good experience in his first term as president in terms of enjoying the support of republicans. he should expect it again. but if people want to play the outside game than they run a lot of risks. for votes are all it's going to

take to kill a nomination here so they should take pause. do the work, build a compelling case. pete hegseth had a good week this week on capitol hill and i'm working with cash patel. members are not really swayed by these. if anything they could create a structural problem for future nominees if they overreach but i don't believe that it's come directly out of mar-a-lago. it's coming out of groups that have good behavior and other times making change and get their name out there as an activist organization. i think that's not doing the president a very good service. >> it does seem like the president-elect is frustrated with the prospect of some of these nominees not even getting to a full hearing because the way they see it as if senators are allowed to essentially pocket veto some of these nominees and take them down without ever having to put their name on the board opposing them, than that senators avoid scrutiny when they are running for reelection's and it looks to

some like trump may not have control of the conference. but how do you navigate looking over your left shoulder and right shoulder with every vote ready to cast? >> stay focused on the facts. there are some nominees that are having to ask him legitimate questions coming from republican members and they have to answer and they're also going to have to deal with unfair questions from the democratic side. just take a look at the confirmation hearing for the general. i participated in when i was on the senator armed services. take a look at brett cavanaugh's hearing. everyone here who is coming before the senate, every nominee needs to be prepared to go to the level they have to go to to answer some tough questions in some cases and many unfair questions. the democrats have made it clear in the cavanaugh hearing nothing is sacred. family, past experiences,

personal experiences in high school yearbooks. the nominees need to get ready and they need to answer these questions to the satisfaction of the republican members memo and only and there are going to be many nominees that have significant democrat votes. i think marco rubio will, doug collins in the va. we're not talking with the nominees at all move quickly. we're talking three or four that have legitimate questions they have to answer. >> the base pressure seems to have an effect on senator joni ernst who is a sexual assault survivor. came from publicly lukewarm on trumps defense secretary nominee pete hegseth for asking with a second meeting with pete hegseth and saying he should have a full hearing. it followed a veil primary threat from iowa's attorney general and she wrote in an op-ed in recent days it's clear d.c. politicians think they can ignore the voice of their constituents and entertain smears from the same outlet that i pushed for years. win voters selected president they are selecting the vision for a cabinet that would enact his agenda so is this sort of

about face from ernst assigned that maybe pete hegseth and the other controversial nominees are going to ultimately make it through? >> joni is a very good friend of mine and she is a soldier, of patriot and a fantastic member of the senate. anyone who wants to challenge her in a primary for being thoughtful needs to be held accountable for that sort of garbage. the reality is joni and all of us are just looking for a good solid case to carry forward to the floor and joni asking questions and appearing to be objective is just fine with me. at the end of the day there's a lot of time. what's amazing to me as how we are not even in the new administration and we haven't even seen the background checks which i know the administration is sending our way. there's a lot of information that needs to be gathered and these folks who are making primary challenges, running adds

and they seem more like political opportunists than me than thoughtful members of the republican party. >> really quickly because you said most of these nominees are going to make it through. which of the nominees will have the toughest fight do you think? >> i think, i believe that cash patel who i'm working with because he's on the jurisdiction is going to enjoy solid republican support on the senate floor coming out of the committee. i think that pete hegseth will have to go to committee and answer some questions about organizational experience, some of his past marriages, those sorts of things. all of that is fair game when you're running for her in a or a sub cabinet position. and i think, ice and plea don't note tulsi gabbard. shall be on the intelligence committee and what i've said is any confirmation that comes from a strong republican base of support i am generally going to supports.

and committees where i don't have -- i'm not in the committee of jurisdiction when it comes to veterans baking finance and judiciary that i will be on the front row and i will be doing everything to get the members through and forced answer tough questions. we should not avoid tough questions because the democrats are going to go further and will be unfair in the process. >> i want to get to the agenda before we run out of time because the president-elect campaign to lower the cost for americans and the only way to get around this senates 60 vote threshold is to use the reconciliation process and this week the house speaker adopted this senates plan of doing multiple reconciliation packages and theoretically going with the border first but also theoretically if you eliminate the border and you'd take that with the first package and you don't include the tax cuts extension as part of it it could become very difficult to get all the republicans on the same page when you've got deficit hawks that are fundamentally opposed to some of the same requests the

new york republicans one on increasing the tax deduction for state and local taxes. are you concerned of the tax cuts don't make it to the first reconciliation packages won't get done at all? because you'd could have a situation where the largest tax increase in history comes under unified republican control. >> just take a look at it. when president trump came in in 2017 we tried to move quickly on reversing the damage that obamacare was creating. we came up a vote short. what we don't want to do is burn too much time because if we don't get the tax provisions in place and make it very clear to the market sent to the american people that will be in the august or september time frame the markets will place and that cost and it will be more difficult. here's the last thing i will leave you with. i know a lot of people are assuming that we can't convince democrats, seven or eight of them devote with republican policies.

i think that is being lazy and that will produce less results than i believe president trump wants. let's get in there and do the hard work and let's have the border package the reconciliation as an option but why don't we get together and start having discussions right now about border security and immigration reform that president trump supports? he's already said he thinks there should be a path for dreamers and dr. population and we could ashley gets a big stuff done i believe with 60 votes to take pressure off the timeline that we need to get reconciliation done for tax reform and we are having those discussions and i believe we can be very productive in hour first six or eight months in office next year. >> just to clarify our you say the tax cuts should come to the first reconciliation package? >> i believe we have to pull it forward. could be the mechanics of the tax package and some border, could be dual track where we are working on 60 vote threshold for border while we are trying to get the package. he is doing work as the incoming

finance chair but it is complicated and it is difficult and we have to get it done because we cannot afford to have a four to 5 trillion-dollar tax increase over the next ten years for the american people. they need just the opposite need the good work that president trump did with the tax reform in 2017 back and renewed this year. >> senator thom tillis thank you for your time and thanks for being with us this morning. >> thank you. reports of drones in a sky across the east coast prompt more questions than answers about the flying mystery objects. house intel committee member jim himes joins me next to join the search for answers. (♪) as you plan for your financial future, keep a steady eye on the best approach. for nearly 160 years, generations have put their trust

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mysterious drones of energy overnew jersey. in a moment jim himes will join me but first cp cotton is live in elizabeth, new jersey, tracking the recent sightings. >> during a call with reporters this weekend a senior defense department official confirmed there have been serious drones sightings into military facilities here in new jersey. he said the military is frustrated by what he described as a responsible drone activity while admitting that at this point the u.s. government doesn't know much about who was

operating the drones in those cases. simply tell you we don't know. we have not been able to identify or locate the operators of the points origin. other officials from the fbi, department of home security and faa said during the weekend called the ongoing investigation revealed most of the sidings are planes being mistaken for drones and that there is no public safety threat. national security risk or for an actor. and fbi official says most of the reported sightings across the entire northeast region match the approach pattern of some of the busiest airports in the new york area. adding later in the call quote i think there has been a slight overreaction. our fox flight team took a cell phone video what could be a drone with the naked eye. than our team shot video using a drone with thermal imaging and you can clearly see the outline of the plane. still there is growing

frustration. the new york governor sounded off about an airport temporarily shutting down friday night. she is now calling on congress to pass legislation to strengthen the faa's oversight of drones and give more authority to state and local agencies to investigate the drone activity. while people take to social media like this facebook group to share photos and vid videos. >> no doubt whatsoever. i've shown it to other people, my wife was home last night and she saw the video and there's no doubt they are drones. >> everybody has their own personal theories but nobody actually knows what's happening. >> and fbi official says the agency has received about 5000 tips but of those he says less than 100 were deemed credible for further investigation. >> life in new jersey. thank you. the mysterious sightings leading to bipartisan calls for answers. joining me now top democrat on the house intelligence committee

congressman jim himes. thank you so much for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> so contradictory statements can erode public trusts and that could be what's happening in the government. here is a congresswoman. >> i don't believe that the united states of america, with its military capabilities, does not know what these objects are. and what i'm asking and what we are all asking is for you to be straight with us and just tell us what is going on. >> the white house is saying there's no evidence of a national security or public safety threat, no sign of criminal activity or malicious intent or foreign involvement but also they don't know what these systems are and they don't know who is operating them or why or what they are capable of and those messages are inherently incompatible. do you believe the relevant federal agencies are really unable to answer these questions or are they just unwilling to

answer them and do you think the government actually knows what they are dealing with here? >> there's a lot of us that are pretty frustrated right now. the answer we don't know is not a good enough answer. win people are anxious and nervous and this has been true since we been a species on this planet, people will fill a vacuum with, you know, their fears and anxieties and conspiracy theories and oh, my god, there's an iranian mothership hovering off the coast of the park or it's the russians and the chinese. my frustration is that the faa and particular which is the agency of jurisdiction through the domestic skies, ought to be out saturday morning saying let's show you a picture at the number of aircraft commercial and private and military that go over new jersey in any 24-hour period when people say that they will be like oh, my god, i can't believe how many aircraft. and the faa should say we have 800,000 registered drones in this country and is probably 700 million more that aren't

registered. just a vacuum would be helpful and as a result we have senator andy kim coming out with the state police in new jersey, filling that vacuum hopefully with truth. let me say something i know with confidence. it is not the iranians and not the chinese. i know there is very unsatisfying for people who want a hollywood movie out of this but in the absence of good information, i can say that because i've spent all of my time as the ranking member of the intelligence committee watching what the iranians and chinese do, what they don't do is but a bunch of drones that they could easily recover over the continental united states. the chinese learned that lesson with their spy balloon and you're right, i can't say with 100% probability but to nicole's point, the military is amazing at what they do. an aircraft carrier has 6000 amazing people on it it will

defeat the iranians. what they're not very good at doing is identifying of those 12 teenage boys in montclair, new jersey, falli flying walmart drones. the military is not very good at dealing with that. it's a deep breath moment but you're right, the federal agencies have to put a lot more information about the nature of the problem even if they don't know what any given specific blinking light over asbury park is this morning. >> to your point about information that is put into the public domain, the white house held a briefing this week and appeared to make a series of false statements. take a listen. >> the analysis thus far in an investigation that is ongoing has not revealed any national security or malicious intent or criminal activity. there has been no evidence of any of these activities and/or near restricted spaces. >> we know that there were incursions and restricted spaces than later had to walk that back. military officials confirm this week on the record in new jersey

plus langley air force base last year and t nuclear test sight in nevada before that and in europe the military also confirmed incursions at four u.s. bases in the u.k. last month and ram stein and germany last week. there is also evidence of criminal activity because these drones are not operating on the faa system is required by law. they are functioning on undetectable frequency according to investigators. do you believe the mixed messaging invites a credibility crisis for the government that could have a real impact on the american people? >> what i heard kirby say in the clip is there is no evidence what's been reported in new jersey was contrary to the law or designed to observe a military base. that doesn't mean by the way, and don't get me wrong, that doesn't mean drones could be enormously dangerous and there have been case after case of people flying drones into restricted airspace and one of the things sketch sucked into a

jet engine into a plane in la guardia on approach and that is a very serious thing in the s there have been cases and we don't know the full outlines because the cases have and we try to people who flown drones over military bases and we expect it may have been for observation. ten years ago none of us have ever heard of a drone and now it's a powerful piece of technology that can be misused. i guess what i'm saying is let's not jump immediately to iranians, at a chinese into martians. the government has a real of ponce ability to put more information out there so people better understand what the real dangers are. >> this week the white house called on congress to expand counter drone authority. the new jersey governor phil murphy wrote to a letter to the president it's become apparent that more resources are needed to fully understand what's behind this activity. this week the fbi testified in the joint subcommittee before congress that the federal government alone cannot address unidentified aerial systems.

why is this congress' problem to solve? is it really possible that federal government is not in a position to address a potential threat over the home lender? what would happen if one of these was carrying a weapons payload? >> like everything else it's a division of labor. absolutely the federal government's job to make sure nobody is flying a drone over edwards air force base ended the cia headquarters in virginia to take to new surveillance or worse. that is absolutely the federal government's responsibility but i have two, 20 something daughters in either one of them could spend a little bit of money and get a drone or flight next to somebody's window with a camera and start taking pictures of what's happening inside the house. or worse by the way. that's probably not going to be a department of homeland security problem to solve. so look we are all dealing with this new technology and we will figure out what is the federal government's responsibility and what be handled by the state

police and what should be handled by local forces but this is a new technology and it's going to present new challenges and all i'm saying is we should be sober about it and not start worrying about iranian mother ships or the martians landing as new jersey self aimlessly had happen with the old orson welles thing of many decades ago. >> is there no concern in your mind this could potentially be a pearl harbor moment, like with the japanese submarines surveilling at the waters of hawaii in the month leading up to the attack? do you really have no concern this might be a state actor preparing for some kind of event in the future? >> it's not and frankly, luck, our adversaries that would wish us harm, you know, have billion-dollar satellites over our heads right now that are capable of, you know, doing what we do to them which is observing. you know what they're not going to do? they're not going to put technology over newark, new jersey, that can fall out of the sky and we would capture it. believe me was not happy for the

chinese only got their spy balloon. so no i really don't. there's lots of things to worry about don't get me wrong and we worry about iran and china but know they are not going to launch an attack on pearl harbor that is preceded by drones. does that mean they're not when he use it to try to spy on our sensitive facilities? of course they might but this is not the predecessor for an attack on the american homeland i can promise you that. >> i hope people can take some solace in your confidence they're congressmen. it's been a wild week or so and it's been going on for several weeks now so thank you so much for being here. congressman jim himes appreciated. >> thank you. >> the ouster is raising concerns what the future of syria and the wider middle east. live on the ground and amass guess with the latest. plus or panel breaks down how uncertainty in the region well shaped foreign policy for the trump administration. that's next.

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president bashar al assad as the world watches to see how the transition will unfold. fox news chief foreign correspondent trey yanks is on the ground in damascus,syria, for us. >> good morning. it's been nearly a week since the fall of damascus in the syrian people are uncovering what was left behind by the bashar al assad regime. on the outskirts we are looking at the aftermath and destruction of the civil war. the barrel bombs and missiles destroying these communities reducing them to rubble. and the people living here speaking out about their conditions in hopes. for the first time now unafraid. >> god willing it'll be so much better. it's been a week without bashar al assad in their life flipped 180 degrees after one week. god willing it will definitely get better than this. >> slowly international organizations will trickle back into this part of syria and the u.n. envoy arrived today to

determine the needs of the syrian people and today syrian christians attended their first church services since the fall of the bashar al assad regime. they are optimistic and fearful of what comes next. we continue to investigate following the fall of bashar al assad. so much information here in the capital city and so many missing people. >> thank you. the end of bashar al assad's regime's parking questions of how the incoming administration will address the wider situation in the middle east in his time now for the sunday group. national political reporter for the hill. former bite in white house special assistant megan hayes, resident fellow of the american enterprise institute and jewish insider editor in chief. thank you so much for being with us. mark i want to start with you. as bashar al assad's regime was falling, trumps an untruth

social syria is a mess but not our friend. the united states should have nothing to do with it, this is not our fight. the group that is poised to take power in syria is designated as a terrorist organization by the u.s. and there are 900 u.s. troops on the ground in syria fighting ices. is it really possible to stay out of it as trump said? >> we don't want to get involved in combat in syria but we do have vital interest. syria is a good news and that bad news story. good news in a sense the bashar al assad regime was a brutal tyrannical regime and it's a good news for syria people and its victory for israel because they were the chief sponsor of iran and it's a defeat for russia who went several years ago to prop up the bashar al assad regime that has failed. these are all good things. the problem is the new regime is headed by a guy who is radicalized by the 9/11 attacks to go to iraq and fight the americans. he saw 9/11 fed i want to fight that fight. he was sent by the leader of

that group that trump killed like a dog if we all remember, to syria. and he had a break with him. and so he's in al qaeda figure. al qaeda had two goals. to get control of a nation state and get control of nations of mass destruction. they got control of a nation-state that has chemical weapons so we have a vital interest in making sure those chemical weapons stockpiles are destroyed. reynaud israel in the united states are launching strikes but we have to make sure we get them all because what they couldn't up in europe are washington one day. >> terms incoming national security advisor gave a preview of his approach to the region. take a lesson. >> president trump was elect with an overwhelming mandate and not get the united states drugged into any more middle eastern wars. >> josh do you think that's a sign that trump could withdraw troops from the region? what could be the impact if he did and how it the rest of the region react?

>> it's a chest of trumps isolationist instincts versus the realities on the ground. i agree that market with the trump administration's got a very traditionalist foreign policy advisors that don't want to see isis reestablish itself in the northeast syria. there's a prison where many of the most hardened isis terrorists are being housed. the kurds are allies in that part of the country and i think trump and his advisors to realize there are national security interests for the united states. i think what he doesn't want to get his get involved in taking sides and we don't know sort of the long-term intentions and the rebel group, we hope they would be friendly to american interests and provide peace in the region but we know hope is in the substitute for what often happens in the middle east. i think israel and iran is another big hot spot and iran is very vulnerable with the losing one of their big proxies in syria and i think a question for the trump administration is what they support the u.s. or israel

going after those facilities? >> very good question. i want to turn to health care because the murder of the united health care ceo continued to dominate headlines this week. senator elizabeth warren called the murder of warning and it stirred some strong reactions. violence is never the answer but people can only be pushed so far. is a warning if you push people hard enough they lose faith in the ability of their government to make change and lose faith in the ability of people providing health care to make change and start to take matters into their own hands. they will ultimately be a threat to everyone. war and was later forced to walk back or comment and make clear that this is not a justification for murder but that is exactly the argument that is all over social media right now so what does that say about the state of the country? >> i thing we see on social media so much loud noise about this almost glorification of luigi mangione that has been disturbing for a lot of people to watch and it's also turning away from the nuance of the discussion with the feelings

that have about the health care system. there is certainly unhappiness and discontent with the health care system in the u.s. and there's a recent gallup poll that found roughly 23% of americans say they were unhappy with the current system. those numbers change when you look at their own personal health care situation 160, 65% of americans say they are happy with their coverage. that can also change if they themselves go through a catastrophic health incident. they are forced to confront and deal with the health care system in a more negative way but i think unfortunately we have lost that nuance of this conversation, going forward and talking to democrats they don't feel particularly optimistic about changing, how they would say improving health care in the u.s. particularly with republicans in the house and the senate and the trump administration. overall i think it's been disturbing to see the lack of nuance in this conversation.

>> aoc found yourself in a similar situation and here's what she said. >> this is not to say active violence is justified but i think for anyone who is confused or shocked or appalled, they need to understand that people interpret and feel and experience denied claims as an active violence against them. >> the suspect in this murder was not even a customer of this insurance company. do you think lawmakers need to think twice about using current events to advance policy discussion? >> absolutely. full stop this person has committed cold-blooded murder in broad daylight on video. it's discussing there isn't anything but conversation like elizabeth warren's tweet saying but. it's offensive to everyone full. that doesn't mean there should be a health care conversation in the policy conversation separate of that but that should not be

the catalyst to have that conversation we should not be saying watch out people are going to commit murder because they're unhappy with health care. that is completely disgusting to me but i do think there does need to be a health care conversation and there's a lot of things. drug affordability, the way we get access to health care and we're the only world country that does health care in the same way. two things could be true but it's disgusting that they're quitting this to having that conversation. >> panel stay with us. we have much more coming up next. business leaders are changing their tune on trump as the economic outlook grows more bullish for his second term. how it will impact wall street and main street coming up next. . one — remember, i don't want surgery for my dupuytren's contracture. two — i don't want to wait for my contracture to get worse. three — i want a treatment with minimal downtime. four — i want a nonsurgical treatment. and five... and if nonsurgical treatment isn't offered? i'll get a second opinion.

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[cheering and applause] trump are in the opening bell of the new york stock exchange is wall street leaders grow increasingly optimistic about his second administration and we are back now with the panel. so a year ago trump was politically dead and now he is "time" magazine's person of the year and he posted on truth social how it started, how it's going. with a photo of his 2023 mug shot there on the left, his inauguration poised to become a global event even though

xi jinping isn't coming the chinese are sending a delegation to attend. what does this reflect? >> greatest political comeback in american history. the last president to lose the white house and when it four years later was grover cleveland in 1892 and he didn't have to overcome the probe and that to impeachment and 91 charges of the federal, state, and local level. this is a comeback for the ages and what's happening now is trump's getting something he didn't get the first time around which was a political honeymoon. in 2016 everybody thought he was a fluke. hillary was unpopular and so they immediately went to attack him to say he was an accidental president, not my president. the resistance started and they launched all these attacks and it's failed. and he's got unified control of the government and he's now got a chance to have the honeymoon and a chance to push his agenda than normal presidents get. >> companies are pouring money into trump's inaugural fund. you've got amazon, mark zuckerberg's meta.

openai's sam altman all donating $1 million each an end opinion column from the hill is silicon valley ceos have heralded is when ann pitt positioned his companies. zuckerberg didn't even congratulate biden in 2020 so why is he scrabbling to go tamara lago in 24? >> a lot of the ceos are looking at someone like elon musk who has turned into trump's right-hand man in many ways. he's on calls with foreign leaders and you have trump attending the launch of spacex. you've trump somewhat warming to the idea of that even though he is truth social. they see the influence that elon musk is having and i think a lot of the ceos say i want to have a slice of that as well. >> meantime is trump is getting the honeymoon democrats are distancing themselves from biden. the party has no heir apparent after he leaves office. pennsylvania governor josh shapiro sounded often biden commuting a sentence of a former

lucerne county judge who embroiled in this kids for cache scandal and accepted kickbacks for wrongly and here's what shapiro said. >> i do feel strongly that president biden got it absolutely wrong and created a lot of pain here in northeastern pennsylvania. this was not only a black eye on the community, the kids for cache scandal, but it also infected families and really deepened profound and sad ways. >> josh what to make of biden's decision here? why would he upset his legacy and his hometown with this pardon? >> this is quite a way to go out. feels like the end of month theme of the biden administration as commutations or pardons for corrupt individuals. starter with hunter biden and the fox news poll showed about two-thirds of americans disapproved of that decision and

now he is choosing to pardon or commute the sentences of some of the most corrupt politicians or judges in the country. illinois comptroller that embezzled over $50 million and got the sentence commuted. the pennsylvania judge we just saw that governor shapiro thought this was unconscionable. someone who sent juveniles to jail as a pay for play scheme. i don't know what biden is doing, i don't think he is getting the best advice and will harm his legacy going forward. >> on that point, anita dunn who is one of the president's closest advisors publicly spoke out against his decision to pardon his son. she said the argument is one many observers are concerned about. a president who upheld the rule of law and has really defended the rule of law kind of saying maybe not right now. it's one thing for shapiro who might be positioning himself to run in 28 to speak out against biden but anita had done is not running for any public office so why is she speaking out against her former boss?

>> is a little inside baseball with the lawyers and her husband but i do believe what she also said was the timing wasn't right and i don't think she was criticizing the president, i think she was criticizing the timing of it and i think a lot of democrats feel that way. why was this not the very last thing you're going to do an office if you'd pardon your son i don't think the president could fault the president for pardoning his son. keeping hunter out of jail or to a stop where he has i think no one can fault him for that and i don't think american people actually really do care if he pardons his former drug addict addicted son who had these crimes when he was an addict but i don't think anita was criticizing the president's decision, it was a timing. >> you can fault him for lying about it. he told the american people he wasn't going to do it repeatedly and then did it. the other thing he did is valid into donald trump critique of the justice department. he set hunter was singled out because he was my son and raw politics has infected this process and lead to them is character of justice.

that's exact would donald trump says anything that about his own justice department that is allowed raw politics to infect the justice practice than donald trump would saying i agree with that. >> two things can be true here and also i think that when the present was and he was going to he was running for president. i don't think at present was lying when he said that i needed an evident tension to. other than circumstances changed and he saw the people being nominated like cash patel before it was matt gates and i do think he was here afraid that these people would come after his son and i thought he could take a stop to it and he did. i don't you was lying when he said those. >> i guess we will see the followed and whether any democrats take a step back from giving the president a bearhug as he exits his term. thank you panel we will see you next sunday. up next a look back at the life of a legendary courtroom sketch artist to work you have definitely seen. even if you didn't realize it. you turn 65.

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>> some sad news to report this morning. early this week legendary courtroom sketch artist bill hennessy passed away. known for bringing to life what happened by closed doors were cameras were not allowed, whether it be at the supreme court, that clinton and trump impeachment or other pivotal legal moments and the

nations history. hennessy's career spanned decades any pastorally on monday which was also his birthday. shannon sat down with bill last year in his studio in virginia. >> i want them to feel as though they are there. not trying to shaded in any particular way and that's my responsibility. >> you don't know his face but you do know his work. in a city where courtroom drama drives news and cameras are verily invited in. artist bill hennessy is there with his pencils and paper. >> trying to do more than just statically record was there but try to catch the energy and emotion of what's there. >> reporter: it's a profession he stumbled into as a young art student. >> our department got a phone call and the woman at the door said there's a tv station on the phone and wood anybody be interested in drawing in a courtroom? and i jumped at it. and much to my surprise it's been over 40 years. >> at what point did you

transition to this is going to be the work that i do? >> it was crazy. the whole concept of it was basically, you know, imagine wherever you are walking into a room full of 50 people and it's like quickly needed drawing of this. and it's like what do i draw here? i had to think like a journalist. i finally got a grasp and said okay. i can do this. >> today his sketches are a staple of television news. telling the story of a nation's most consequential cases. >> you been in celebrity trials and terrorism trials on a lot of big supreme court cases. ward of the standouts for you? >> oh, my gosh. that is all most impossible. >> he sketched a former d.c. mayor, the d.c. sniper case, the amber hurt and johnny depp defamation trial and a young woman who interned in the clinton white house. >> rumor is she wasn't going to testify and has likely been waiting for months and nothing is going to come out of this and then was the word, there is a

blue dress and they have it. actually monica will testify. >> he also sketched that interns former boss. >> the first impeachment really struck me because i this front row seat in the press gallery looking down on all of that. i remember being overwhelmed by that. i remember this from government class, this never happens and it's so rare and there a been three now. >> do you feel pressure win that someday that is a recognizable figure? >> absolutely. that weighs heavily. when it someone they know they're looking to make sure you get it accurately but at the end of the day you've got to finish, you are done and it airs and it's the best you could do and move onto the next case. >> his pencils have seen a lot. >> other moments when you're sitting in a trial and some thing shocking happens and you stop where you're at and think this is will be a very different sketch? >> has a lot of things that happen that you don't expect and that's when you're going to be ready for because that can be the story.

>> sometimes that story is outside the courtroom. >> i heard a commotion from the floor above and this shirtless guy comes flying down the escalator. he's going eight or ten steps at a time and he was moving and he's being pursued by four court marshals. it was crazy. the amazing thing about that is if you look at a sketched as a woman standing at the bottom of the escalator and she put her foot out and tripped him. >> reporter: inside the courtroom hennessy has perfected the speed of his craft. >> i see you in the courtroom. you're furiously scribbling your notes and you're working in realtime working on these sketches and it's going as the case is going. >> right. that's what's kind of cool about it but also kind of crazy about it. >> you walk into these courtrooms and people know bill hennessy is here. it's a trial of import and is going to make sure the public it's to see what's happening. >> i appreciate that. i've got to know a lot of really great people over the years.

>> reporter: i've seen hennessy over those years in my time covering the court's most historic cases. >> in the case of the top there was a really big moment in history, that's the dobbs case that ended up overturning roe v. wade. >> actually does a reporter in there that you might recognize. >> i was so excited to find out i made a bill hennessy sketch. in today's world of instant coverage sketching might seem like old-school but hennessy says otherwise. >> it has changed and now 24-hour news, they wanted immediately and is almost as soon as the gavel strikes. courts adjourned and it's like how soon could you have that? my method of working lends itself to this because i draw fast and i like that kind of energy. now it's more demanding than ever. >> do you ever think about the legacy and these moments in time that you captured? no camera could be there but your artwork is going to be what we have.

>> i haven't really dwelled too much on that. that is pretty special and in that regard, i am going to let my kids figure out what the heck to do with all of those historical images. >> wonderful look back at his career. bill hennessy was 67 years old and he will be missed. that's it for today. thank you for joining us. have a great week and we will see you next fox news sunday.