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>> did jenny webb really kill herself? >> i just know this whole thing was staged. >> a suicide note, a cigarette butt and blood stains. the clues start to add up. >> i knew right then and there. >> he did it. but the trail will lead detectives to a dark and unexpected truth. >> what kind of sick person even dreams about something like that? >> then? a mother's worst nightmare. >> i froze, i didn't know what to do when her teenage daughter doesn't come home. i think she's been kidnaped. i think about the worst. >> a mysterious phone call. >> i answered it, and there was a ashley on the other line that said, it's me, mom. i'm okay. don't worry. click. >> but ashley summers is still missing and the fbi needs your help. >> we believe the last person that saw her was. >> your daily source for true crime starts right now. it's an unbelievable, almost surreal sight. a pregnant woman found

dead hanging from the luggage rack of her own car. the tragic story of jennifer webb is as heartbreaking as it is grisly. and, as one prosecutor described it, bizarre beyond belief. but was it suicide or was it staged? jennifer webb of buena vista, michigan, is thrilled. she's eight and a half months pregnant with her first child, a boy she plans to name braxton. even though jenny isn't dating anyone. it's no secret to her loved ones anyway, who the father is. what did she tell you about him? >> well, she and he had been friends for probably ten years. i had never met him. >> one reason she isn't with the father. he's married. was she in love with him? no. >> absolutely not. >> and did she have any fantasies of marrying him or bringing up the baby together? >> absolutely not. >> so jenny was preparing to be a single mother. >> she had a good job, and she

had bought a house and starting a family of her own. >> yes. or were they? how then to explain jenny's decision? one beautiful august evening after work, jenny goes to help her best friend andrea, a new mom of twin girls. jenny says she can't stay late. she's got plans to meet up with the father of her unborn child. >> i said, you know, what do you guys meeting up about? and she said, well, we need to discuss this whole child support thing. >> did she also want to put his name on the birth certificate? >> yes. >> and how did he feel about it? >> i think that was one of the things that he was kind of on the fence about. so they were discussing that as well. >> a couple of hours later, a gruesome discovery on a secluded road, a pontiac aztek parked near a ditch, a woman with an extension cord around her neck hanging from the car's luggage rack. first on the scene, buena vista township police officer kenneth blue, followed by officer tim patterson.

>> when patterson rolls up, the first thing blue does is get out of his car and say, how do you want to do this? >> they approach the vehicle and see the victim. neither seems to know her. officer blue pulls the woman's purse out of her car and finds a small folded piece of paper. the officers read it together. it's a suicide note. there were a lot of details in the suicide note that she had lied about the true identity of the baby's father. she finally revealed that his name was chris. she goes on to say she met him at a bar one night and lied because she didn't want her family thinking that she was an expletive. she's ruined her life and feels like a failure because she can't afford to support herself and her baby. the suicide note ends with it's the only way i love you, and i'm sorry, jenny. after reading the note, officer blue pulls out the victim's wallet. >> he looks at her id and then

proclaims, gee, i know this girl. >> he says he knows her from one of the local bars. minutes later, detective sergeant sean waterman arrives on the scene. >> when i first get there, officer patterson comes up to me and says, we got this girl over here. and she looks like she hung herself. >> and detective waterman makes his way to the home of jenny's family to deliver the heartbreaking news. >> there's been a suicide. and i said, a suicide. and i said, she may be dead, but she did not commit suicide. >> soon, another shocker. when jennifer's dad tells police who the father of jenny's baby is, mr. webb just looked at me and said, your officer, ken blue. >> i just couldn't believe it. i felt sick to my stomach, sick to his stomach. >> because waterman knows officer ken blue is the one who found jenny hanging from the luggage rack of her own car.

>> and i knew right then and there he did it, and i just knew this whole thing was staged 190ft from where jenny's body was found, a cigarette butt lying on the ground, a necklace, charm and blood. >> i don't mean to sound like an. i'm just thinking, how would you not recognize her? it's just odd, man. i mean, you just you just kind of go into go into cop mode at that point. it's just. okay, what do i got to do? >> about nine hours after jenny's body is found, he has the chance to explain to lead investigator sergeant alan ogg and lieutenant jason. >> teddy, just tell me what happened tonight. what's what's going on here? >> blue walks his colleagues through his version of events. they don't buy it. >> so, you know, here, here a guy like me and al struggling with this right now because we're looking at one of our own sitting here and going, how do you how do you go? how do you

talk to a guy about this? and i and i'm sure you saw it coming, but. well, i mean, yeah, i mean, once i realized i knew her and. okay, bring it on. i mean, it's going to happen, so. okay. but there's a there's a lot of things that have come up already that, i mean, the flags bayreuther the flags. >> i know multiple times during the interview, blue denies ever having sex with jenny. when they ask for a dna sample. he seems to know the walls are closing in on him. >> why is it that i'm feeling warm like a suspect every time i remember every minute that was by him. >> when his colleagues ask him to sign a consent form for a dna test, suddenly blue changes his story. >> i can't tell you one thing about this. i did, in fact, sleep with him. >> when we come back. officer blue is in the hot seat and his fellow officers are about to turn up the heat. >> now it looks like october,

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we're back with the mysterious death of 32 year old jenny webb and her unborn son, braxton. investigators are questioning one of their own, who happens to be the father of that child. buena vista township police

officer ken blue did he murder them and stage it to look like a suicide? no. >> it looks like i killed her. and all i can tell you is i didn't. >> what kenneth blue says happened, that he found jenny with an extension cord around her neck, hanging off the side of her own car just doesn't fit the evidence. an autopsy determines she died from a chokehold. jenny's death is ruled a homicide. his blood was found on the extension cord that was wrapped around the roof rails of her vehicle. >> his blood was found on her clothing. >> his blood was found in her car. his blood was found in his patrol vehicle and on his uniform, incriminating evidence piles up with several fingerprints found on jenny's car. >> one in blood. all right, so what's this? >> this is a fingerprint of the suspect, officer ken blue, who was fingerprinted seven a little over seven days after the incident. this shows his right

index finger with the right loop with the recurve, and it shows the same similar damage done to the fingerprint ridges as the area is on the pontiac aztek of the victim. >> and what's truly identical here is the fact that this finger was somehow injured or wounded. >> that is correct, yes. >> and remember, the three items found 190ft from her body. the dna on the cigarette butt came back to match kenneth blue, the dna on the necklace charm and the blood spot came back to match jenny webb. armed with a search warrant for his home, detectives find extension cords like the one used on jenny, a computer search about vascular compression, strangulation and another the best way to commit suicide. >> he was a cop. what kind of sick person even dreams about something like that? it's mind boggling. >> but there was one more piece

of damning evidence found on the alleged suicide note. >> on the back of this suicide note i found and located 14 latent fingerprints, all 14 matched officer ken blue, and the condition of blue's prints on the note changed how this case would go forward. there was no damage to the fingerprint ridges, so it's telling me that that particular note was handled by kenneth blue prior to his right index finger being damaged, showing premeditation. >> and the only way he could have put that perfect fingerprint on the outside of the suicide letter would have been if he did it before he killed her and she bit him. >> that is absolutely correct. yes. >> okay. and the whole case turned there. officer ken blue was arrested and charged with four counts, including first degree murder and assault on a pregnant individual

intentionally causing miscarriage or stillbirth. a little over a year after jenny was killed, kenneth blue faced trial. >> he killed jenny webb and made it look like something it wasn't. and that person, ladies and gentlemen, is that man right there? kenneth blue. >> in over three weeks of testimony, the prosecution called 31 witnesses. the defense called only one. >> he didn't really present a specific defense, just his attorney tried to poke holes in the prosecution's evidence, but the evidence was just overwhelming. it couldn't be done. >> the jury deliberated just two hours before rendering their verdict. guilty on all counts. >> i have never in my 30 year career seen a case like this one. >> ken blue is sentenced to life in prison. no chance of parole. in the end, kenneth blue did

himself in with a lot of help from jenny webb. >> she was our best witness. >> this really impacted you. >> well, you have a lot. the little baby boy. you know? i mean, i was at his autopsy. i truly believe god made her do what she did. bit his finger and left all that evidence. i really, truly believe that. >> so go to your cage and think about how you squeeze the life and breath out of my daughter and grandson, and i hope it haunts you every day for the rest of your life. >> kenneth blue appealed his conviction and sentence, but the michigan supreme court declined

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>> the kids always said, mom, when's ashley coming home? where's ashley at? and i'd say she'd be home shortly. >> and when law enforcement in cleveland capture predator ariel castro for abducting three local teens in a case that made national headlines. >> i was kind of waiting for the phone call. >> jennifer's hopes to find her daughter get crushed even more. >> it turned out not to be ashley. i was kind of mad that it wasn't her. there. >> so where's ashley summers? >> i never thought that that day would lead to this day. >> at the time ashley disappeared, jennifer says her daughter was going through some serious teenage problems. >> she was hanging with the wrong people and they were influencing her in the wrong way. >> ashley stopped going to school, got her new boyfriend's name tattooed on her arm, and moved into jennifer's uncle's house. >> we believe the last person that saw her was an uncle. >> he told jennifer her daughter

left his house that day without saying a word. >> i called my uncle to check on ashley, and he said that she thought she went home. and so i began to call other relatives and no one had seen her. >> all of ashley's clothes were gone, but oddly, she'd left her phone behind. >> i froze, i didn't know what to do, so i immediately went to the police station and filed a missing person report. >> cleveland cops initially believe ashley is a teen runaway and back burner her case. but jennifer says without a doubt, her daughter did not leave on her own. >> i used to drive around day in and day out looking for her. i would talk to her friends, find out where she used to hang out at. we put fliers up everywhere and nothing. >> jennifer even questions ashley's boyfriend, gene, the one whose name she had tattooed on her arm. >> he never seen her from that day either, which was odd. >> ashley never contacts a single friend or relative. and

then about a month after her disappearance, jennifer says she gets a strange call from a private number. >> i answered it, and there was a ashley on the other line that said, it's me, mom. i'm okay. don't worry. click. here. at that moment, i was 100% sure it was her, but now when i replay it, i'm like, was it really her? >> was it really ashley? or possibly a cruel hoax? by now, both the cleveland police and the fbi are also wondering what happened to ashley. >> it wasn't until ashley didn't come home that it really became concerning that maybe she wasn't a runaway, or maybe she had run away, but something had happened to her during that time period. >> but what? >> and i think she's been kidnaped. and i also think about human trafficking. and then i think about the worst. and then i have to stop thinking at that point.

>> eventually, the fbi launched a massive search for ashley. and over the years, friends, family and complete strangers. report ashley sightings. but nothing ever pans out, leaving many wondering if ashley is dead. or maybe she simply doesn't want to be found. >> i didn't know how to feel after that. i was more hopeless. >> and then a strange clue surfaces in the case. remember that uncle? both ashley's mom and fbi agent, vicki anderson, mention. >> we believe the last person that saw her was an uncle. >> turns out the last person to see ashley alive is also a convicted sexual predator. two years ago, ashley's great uncle, kevin donovan, landed behind bars in a mandatory 35 year sentence for the rape and attempted rape of a minor. law enforcement has not been able to establish any connection between him and ashley's disappearance. yet another dead end for

jennifer's quest for answers. but neither jennifer nor the fbi are giving up. the fbi releasing this age adjusted picture of ashley, now a young woman. >> if she is still alive, i just hope to get that phone call that she's coming home. i wonder if it's going to be the day. >> if you know anything about ashley's disappearance, please contact the fbi in cleveland. or you can call the true crime news tip line at (888) 845-7555. we'll be right back. >> mild, moderate to severe crohn's symptoms kept me out of the picture. now i have skyrizi. i've got places to go, and i'm feeling fri. >> controlling my crohn's means everything to me. control is everything to me. >> and now i'm back in the picture. feel significant

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