a rare winter snow storm hits the southwell hurricane-force winds fanned the flames in southern california. deadly fires were through los angeles, destroying entire neighborhoods. >> everyone has lost everything here. >> in dealing with the response from the state's democratic leaders. >> what are you doing at this point there and back people's trusts. >> a fema administrator joins us in the recovery and containment

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hello from fox news in washington we begin with the disasters across the country. much of the south digging out after major winter snowstorm. millions of americans only the frigid temperature and the flights being impacted in the southeastern airline hubs like atlanta and charlotte. out west the death toll has climbed to at least 16 people because of the devastating wildfires in los angeles. thousands of homes and businesses have been simply reduced to ashes. firefighters deal with major increases in wind gusts today, 30 to 50 miles per hour and coastal areas and up to 70 miles an hour in the mountains. in a moment we will talk with the fema director about the federal response to the disaster first we turned to rick jenkins was on the ground in los angeles. >> street by street block by block of apocalyptic scenes like the 1 behind me of homes and

buildings charred and decimated as they deaf toll rises to 16, more than 100,000 evacuated from their homes. the palisade fire at this hour 11% contained in more than 23,000 acres destroyed to give you perspective that is more than 25 times the size of new york's grand central park. the other fire they are battling the eaten fire, 50% containing more than 14,000 acres destroyed. yesterday l.a.'s mayor giving an update saying now is not the time for pointing fingers. >> we need to stay focused that when i say when the fires are out, make no mistake we will have a full accounting of what worked and especially what did not. >> lives have been shattered, the emotional component is building here was a preschool lined with tiles that children

had painted. parents were out here. a couple digging through the rubble trying to find a mento of their children's artwork to hold on to. here's they told us. listen. >> all of my girlfriends, the 1 thing we said we wish we grab which no 1 thought this would happen and we were in a rush to get out. all of our children's artwork. this is it. we have nothing. so finding all of my friends and each 1 you find is, like, a treasure because we have nothing up there. >> there are others outside the area that have been courted off by look national guard and law enforcement that want to get into find out what remains of their homes and their memories. it comes as the winds are picking back up and we'll see where the fire fighting goes today and they are all hands on deck 24/7 and we expect in a few hours a press update from

l.a.'s mayor . >> we know your working around-the-clock. thank you very much. joining us now the fema administrator. welcome back to the show and thank you for your time this morning and we know you're pressed on many sides as you try to help out california and many other places. what is the federal role at this point in california and where can people get help? >> i think the biggest thing right now is as the firefighters and california being supported by the national interagency fire center are coordinating the resources for fire suppression and contain containment. fema is now starting support with a major disaster declaration and the individuals that have been impacted and we want to make sure they start the process by 1, registering for assistance but also contacting their insurance company because we will need to know exactly what they are going to cover but more importantly not covers they could be eligible for different programs within our system.

>> shannon: i want to ask you because fema is pulling in so many directions and managing multiple disasters at once. is the ongoing situation in northwestern california. there is a major storm coming through there as well and our local affiliate, actually an abc affiliate said that the fema transitional sheltering assistance program is ending for 3500 households there. the programs provided hotel rooms to thousands of helene's survivors across the mountains. however, on january third fema started notifying those in hotels there are no longer eligible for the program. i know that was scheduled for the 14 but what is the message to those families? 1 woman they spoke to said she has a broken down car and her home is uninhabitable and she doesn't know where to go next. >> the transitional sheltering and assistance program is 1 of our best tools to help people in the weeks and months like we see in north carolina with what their initial housing needs are going to be. there's a number of reasons why

somebody might have received that notification, you know, what we do is we call everybody. we call every 2 weeks to check where their atom what their status is and is there home able to be occupied again. 1 of the biggest things is when we call them and we don't hear from them the only thing we can do is assume they are back in their home. that 1 of the things i want to make sure is if somebody has received the notification but haven't to talk to somebody at fema and their situation is still in need, they are still eligible we just need them to get in touch with us so we can talk with them. everybody love a unique circumstance and a unique situation. we need to work with them all individually to make sure we are getting them the right resources they continue to this day and a safe place until their home is rebuilt or accessible. >> shannon: quickly can you give us a best weather at the website or an email or a phone number for them to use in those cases? >> the best thing to do what to call a 1-800 number but more

importantly they can go to a disaster recovery center and talk face-to-face. i was thick it's easier to show a person way rat and what your statuses and then they can work right there to make sure you are getting exactly what you need. >> shannon: thank you for the information and your time. we wish you all the best in these fights. >> thank you shannon. >> shannon: just note the american red cross is providing meals and sheltered to thousands of people affected in all kinds of places but especially right now the los angeles wildfires. you can help by donating today. just go to. or you can scan the qr code. it is there on your screen. that the peer camera on your phone and that is the quickest way to get it done. i sat down for an extensive interview with vice president like j.d. vance yesterday. 's first since leaving the senate official and we started talking with a new it administration plans for handling disaster like the ones

in california and recovering in the carolinas. now as vice president-elect, congratulations. >> thank you. good to be here. >> shannon: i wanted to talk to about the fire situation in california because you are at administration will be coming in to take the reins as the feds are trying to meet that along with many other emergency situations they have going on. avenue some that governor of california has written to president trump saying let's not be divisive right now. come out and visit and let people see us working together. any indication the president-elect wood do that? >> another president would love to visit california and first of all our hearts go to families affected by the storms. i see videos of people where folks have lived in their houses for 25, 35 years and everything has gone. whatever your political affiliation, it's hard to see the images and feel bad for americans. i do feel like the federal government has to do a better job. president trump is going to do a better job when it comes to

disaster relief. that's true for the flood victims and fire victims. we have to do a better job and we have to have competent governance. that is a mean you can't criticize the governor of california for every bad decisions over a very long period of time. some of these reservoirs have been dry for 15, 20 years. the fire hydrants are being reported is going dry while the fires are trying to put out the fires. there was a serious lack of competent governance in california and that's a big problem why the fires have got so bad. we needed a better job at the state and federal level. >> shannon: there are skeptics who worry about what the administration will do when it comes to handing out aid to california. there citing backus having the president-elect said in september when he said we won't give him money to put out all his fires and if we don't given the money to put out his fires he's got problems. is there any consideration of withholding aid to californians? >> president trump cares about all americans and east the president for all americans and i think he intends to have fema

and other federal responses much better and much more clued into what's going on there on the ground. president biden has been asleep at the wheel for a number of different crises and i think this final california fire as it's really going and getting out of control and biden's last week and a half, i think it drives home again have been competent governance for so long. president trump also says the coalition that made him president was just a common sense coalition. there are conservatives and moderates and even a few liberals but the thing that united us was the basic idea that yes government should be smaller but when government does the thing it ought to do it well. that's what president trump and i will fight to get back to. >> shannon: president beit is fighting what he can out the door on a number a few issues and critics would say some of those would appear to be into blunting of what you all plan. let's talk first about immigration. "politico" has the headline biden extends this temporary status of migrants ahead of

trump's deportations. temporary protected status to run new work permits and protections extending the program for el salvador until march 2026 and so ukraine and venezuela until october of 26 and how does president trump plan the last minute things and what are his own executive actions planned with regard to the border on day 1? >> shannon: 1 he stepped back a little bit and i think to reiterate president biden has left us an absolute dumpster fire. we are excited to get to work but we need to be open and honest about the fact that president biden has not left the next administration in a good place. fema's funds are depleted, we have a wide-open southern border, oil is going through the roof and bond yields went from 4.1% to 4.8% in a month and that is on top of the fact that president biden has been running the largest peacetime deficits in the history of this country. we have a lot of debt and a lot

of problems and a wide-open southern border, thank god donald trump takes office in a week and a half because we need somebody to actually govern this country effectively. on the border crisis in particular, the most important thing we have to do is to send a message that america is closed to illegal immigration. for the past four years we've been wide-open and you will see i think dozens of executive orders coming from the trump administration, coming from us on day one to send a message to customs and border control and you guys are allowed to do your job again and to illegal immigrants all over the world you are not welcome into this country illegally. if you want to come through you have to come through proper channels. >> shannon: what of the critics were humanitarian activists and worry about the deportation saying families or were to be celebrated get people will be put intends and terrible conditions. they are concerns about the way you plan to meet out those things you're planning to do. >> this term is going to see a lot in the next couple of months and years.

family separation. i think it's important and that's a euphemism. that's a dishonest term to hide behind the fact that joe biden has not done border enforcement. if you say for example in the united states we have a guy who is convicted of violent crime and has to go to prison, we want that guy to go to prison. but, yes, it does mean that that guy is good to be separated from his family and that's the concert was a putting violence and your fellow citizens. if you come to this country illegally you need to go back home. you need to have basic law enforcement and what the democrats are going to do is they're going to hide behind this and say this is all about compassion for families. it is not compassion to allow the drug cartels to traffic small children. it is not compassionate to allow the worst people in the world to send minor children, some of them victims of sex trafficking, into our country. that is the real humanitarian crisis of the border and you're not going to exacerbate it

through law enforcement you will fix it through law enforcement and that's what donald trump will do. >> shannon: the egregious things he would cite all americans are against, that's a small fraction of a million people who are here that many in been here for decades. >> you do have hundreds of thousands and even a million people who would addition to crossing the border illegally have also committed some measure of violent crimes. it's actually a very large number of people. and the point is if you want to fix the overall border crisis you have to engage in law enforcement. we can't buy into this lie really for the extreme left because i agree with you, most americans want common sense border enforcement, we can't buy into this lie that a law enforcement at the american southern border is somehow not compassionate to families you want to cross illegally. a number 1 responsible it is compassion to fellow americans and that starts with enforcing the southern border. you can't have a country of law and order and of stability and of basic good governance unless you give control of what biden

has left us the american southern border and it president trump is committed to do it in day one. >> shannon: you tug what was left on the border and he wants to talk about what slept on the economy. is a robust report out of december on jobs and unemployment down to 4.1%. president biden says his policy decisions are finally paying off. here's a bit more of what he said on friday. >> president biden: after decades of trickle-down economics, up primarily benefited those at the very top, a registration is open a new playbook that grows the economy from the middle out and the bottom up to benefit everyone. the new playbook is working. >> shannon: the december numbers were good, what kind of credit do you give him? >> worst of all i wish joe biden all the best but the fact is he has left us at dumpster fire. not just at the border but with the economy. we note that prices are way too high for many americans and we have to work every single day to stabilize prices for american

families but shannon, everything he's bragging about ignores the fact that he is added trillions and trillions of dollars to the federal debt, during a time of peace. he has left us with bond yields meaning how are we going to finance that debt? we have to and the treasury bonds of got more expensive because of joe biden's policies. you go issue after issue in oil prices are shooting through the roof and the final two months of joe biden's administration in part because of decisions joe biden has made over the last few weeks. he actually hasn't left the american people in good economic condition, that's why they may donald trump the president-elect of the united states that we've got a lot of work to do. i remain fundamentally and you know this, i will always be an optimist about our country but i think that optimism has to start with a bit of realism in the real truth is that joe biden has left us at dunster fire, donald trump will have to put it out but he's good at doing that. >> shannon: we will try to get through a lightning round so we can get through a few things with you. january 6 pardons with the process and where is the line drawn and who will and will be

considered for a pardon? >> i think it's very simple. if you protested peacefully on january sixth and you were treated like a gang member you should be pardoned. if you committed violence on that day, obviously you shouldn't be pardoned and there's a little bit of a gray area there but we are very much committed to see the equal administration of law and there are a lot of people we think in the wake of january 6th who were prosecuted unfairly and we need to rectify that. >> shannon: the president has talked with the middle east and you live with a situation in gaza that's an ongoing conflict. we think roughly 100 hostages are still in hamas control. here's what he said on tuesday. >> if those hostages aren't back i don't want to hurt your negotiation, if they are not backed by the time i get into office all will break out in the middle east and it will not be good for hamas and it will not be good for ink leaf or anyone. >> shannon: what does that mean practically? all will break loose in any update back

in the region to negotiate a deal? >> first of all steve would cough is a good guy and is doing a great job over there and i think the president, is very clear that president trump threatening hamas to make it clear that there is going to be held to pay as part of the reason why we made progress we are getting hostages out and we will hope there is a deal structure toward the end of biden's and administration may be the last day or two. but regardless of when the deal is struck it would be because people are terrified that they're going to be consequences for hamas. what does that look like? number 1 it means enabling the israelis to knock out the final couple of battalions of hamas in their leadership. it means a very aggressive sanctions and financial penalties in the middle east and it means doing the job which donald trump did well for four years and would do very well for the next four years. >> shannon: what's the deal with greenland and the panama canal and i have a use of military force?

>> i think the people always ignore as we always have troops in greenland. greenland is really important strategically and has a lot of important resources. my friend donald trump jr. was there a few days ago and you look at the total and they want to be empowered to develop the people of greenland. want to be empowered to develop the resources there and we also need to make sure greenland is properly taking caring for anna american perspective and frankly the current leadership, the danish government has not done a good enough job of securing greenland. i thing there's a real opportunity here for us to take leadership to protect american security and to ensure those natural resources are developed and that's what donald trump is good at. he's good at making deals in it and it's a deal to be made in greenland. >> shannon: quickly your buckeyes, they get to the national championship the same day as the inauguration. you sparked a lot of backlash about your tweet that you will skip the inauguration to go to the championship.

is there any ministry should power to move the game? >> i sure you that's a joke. it will be there doing my constitutional duty and swearingen as a 50th vice president of the united states but i wish they could do move the game until tuesday so if you're watching the show and do you have the power i would like to watch the buckeyes and i don't want to be at the inaugural ball state staring at my phone because we're watching ohio state versus notre dame so let's move that game. but if not i'll be rooting for the buckeyes and spirit. >> shannon: i've a feeling we'll get the shot of you at the balls. vice president like think you for coming here. president trump aiming for legislative wins and quickly. while a senator hosted his meeting with senate republicans this week as they mapped up a way forward but some say it's not clear. she will join us live next less . the type a cpa. the boot strapper. the boot maker. hee-ha. but many do have something in common. we all trust schwab with our wealth.

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>> donald trump is the quarterback of the football team and he has been presented options and he is that his preference is one big beautiful bill. >> shannon: south dakota congressman dusty johnson on trump's preference for packing numerous packages to one big vehicle but can lawmakers get that across the finish line? joining us now west virginia senator shelly moore capito and the republican policy committee chair. good to have you this morning chair. >> thanks for having me on. >> shannon: not to get too wonky, the two bills versus one bill and this is the way "the new york times" spells it out. summer republicans have argued the past two bills in order to pass through legislation focus on immigration in the southern border. but republicans voted to lowering taxes for one mammoth bill to ensure tax cuts are less on the cutting room floor. what are the logistical considerations how to get this done? >> it in the most important aspect is of it is that we have

a wonderful opportunity here with the president coming in and control of the house and senate. we need to seize this opportunity, the american people know what the election is about in november. so we want to have a success here weather it's one bill or two bills i don't really think it matters as much as long as we get it across the finish line quickly and that it has the results of border, unleashing energy, taxes and all of the things that we know that president trump wants and that we want to make sure that we are moving in the right direction. i think you will see this iron out a little bit has to do with what the speaker thinks can actually pass in the house. we are waiting as senators to hear that and to see what the president thinks about that. he still wants a big beautiful bill but i think he does see the merits of a two bill system where you can push something through very quickly and get quick results. we will iron this out, it's not

as confrontational or anything it's just how to get this across the finish line. >> shannon: one of your colleague senator lindsey graham a fellow republican is worried about the optics of this as well and saying if there is a delay on getting the board are done because you're trying to hitch tax cuts to what here's what he said. >> i'm very worried if we don't put border first and get it done, it's going to be a nightmare to national security. of you hold border security hostage you play russian roulette. >> shannon: what about the message up from the right everything all day the border is a national security issue? >> there's no question border is the number 1 issue. we have 10 million people here illegally that has been poured over the borders and the president campaign hard on this issue, saying he will fix it.

and i know you seen a lot of executive orders at the beginning we have it in our power to make sure his desires and our desires that closing the border actually become effective and efficient. and i do think and i said publicly that the two bill system makes more sense to me because we can do it more immediately and have a quicker and more positive effect. at the same time we have to live in the land of possible here. and i think, i agree with lindsey that the border is number 1 and the president believes that as well. and i do believe. >> shannon: is important here. i think we will pick up the speed, that president is it even president yet and once he got sworn in on monday we will hit the ground running. >> shannon: one of the things that you will have to deal with are all the confirmation battles over his nominees. want to go through a couple ticks if you can and i know you met with most of them in many of them. i want to talk about former

congresswoman tulsi gabbard to head dni. is a nonprofit on tax of civilians by the former tatar there bashar. he was concerned she went there on her own without the assistance or notice to the u.s. government taking pictures with al assad. as an american it concerns me, if tulsi gabbard is running our intelligence services, france, australia, if i was them i would not share intelligence with us knowing it might end up in the wrong hands. as a matter of fact he says i think it could get back to putin. you had a conversation with her, what was your conversation like and are you reassured with respect to past actions and statements regarding putin and regarding russia and regarding bashar al assad? >> i think this is part of the senate's responsibility which is advising consent and when tulsi

gabbard came in, we talked about principally syriac, russia and her opinions on the intelligence gathering procedures that she has questioned very deeply and at one point wanted to have them taken away. she's changed her position on that are clarified her position to satisfy that the 702 provision is extremely important. i asked her about syria and how she got there and she told me she traveled with former congressman and that originally they were going to lebanon and then they ended up in syria. she said she believes that syria under that regime is a terrorist nation and there were deep problems in syria that could endanger, you know, that were not favorable to us. so she's explained i think a lot of some of the misinformation that has been out there but she is getting ready to testify

before committee and we will see what she does. >> shannon: let's turn to rfk jr. there's a group in west virginia i believe it's called protect our care, and advocacy group calling on you not to vote for them. they're saying he's radical and heat their worried but his positions on medicaid and medicare and the affordable care act. tell us your conversation about him and what concerns he may still have and are your question still answered? >> the first thing i would ask robert kennedy jr. is about vaccinations inoculations. i come from a generation where my parents took me to the elementary school and we ate a little sugar cube and a mother was jubilant because she noted be protected against polio. i believe that to be able to prevent these types of diseases is exceedingly important. he came back with these not anti-vaccination, he is wanting to have it science based and that's what he kept going back to. let's have basic science to make these decisions. i think he wants a healthy

country. i think he wants healthier food and i think he wants a health system that works for people that need it and want it and i can't acame away from that meang impressed and that the symptoms will be in front of the committee and the tough questions will be asked. >> shannon: we know there are many others u.s. it will work for the process and we will watch is that as front and center for the weeks to come. thanks for your time. >> thank you. >> shannon: president-elect trump sentence is weak on felony convictions out of new york but the judge imposed basically no punishment, so what was the point? our legal experts are here to weigh in and facebook creator mark zuckerberg on announces big policy changes while bashing the bite and it missed ration. the sunday panel is up next to see why some skeptics are questioning what they call the meta-change of heart.

>> this is been a weaponization of government. they call it law fair and never happen to any extent like this but never happened in our country before. >> shannon: president-elect trump sounding off in his new york criminal case. was sentenced to an unconditional discharge on friday with many jail time fines and cementing his place as the first convicted felon to take the oval office.

time now for our legal experts to weigh in. jonathan turley and former u.s. attorney andy mccarthy and gentlemen welcome all three of us sat through this trial so andy, what was the point of friday? >> sometimes it's not the destination, it's the journey. and i think, you know, you can't judge this by the bottom line. the bottom line obviously is nothing came of it. but the point here was not so much to achieve a certain result, certainly not to put now president-elect trump in prison. the point was to help the democrats win the 2024 election and if we take the point of these in her own terms to do that. it's a terrible politicizing of the justice system but the objective was to get the democrats into the white house

in 2024. so that's the real failure and not just the failure of this particular prosecution, although this is the worst of them. it's really the hole l'affaire effort. >> shannon: so the appeals will begin on the substance of this whole thing and "the wall street journal" editorial board says they can pursue the appeals they hope will prove mr. bragg was wrong about the case all along. the d.a. and judge are now both on trial. your thoughts? >> i think there's something to that. i feel the trump team was good on the fence hearing but the most was on the judge himself to defendant's conduct in that case. i also think the verdict against president trump is not going to last nearly as long as the verdict against the new york court system and that judge. they allowed that legal system which was one of the great legal systems in the world to be weapon iced for political

purposes and in the end they all resulted in a little more than a shrug and a sound bite. i think that's what ultimately was the thrill of this thrill kill case. was to be able to have this mantra that president was the first convicted felon to take office. even though it may ultimately be reversed. but it is ultimately sensing by sound bite. there's nothing else. he will walk into the white house and i feel the new york court system will walk into infamy unless they reverse this, there's not a lot of high expectations. but eventually this paddlers wagon held high with reversible error is going to rattle its way up in front of the supreme court and then i think we will see some different results. >> shannon: i will be covering when it gets there. in the meantime we have federal cases for the president-elect they have gone away but jack smith has got these reports they will release that has been litigated. whether they go public they will

be in over legal ramifications for the president-elect but i will start with you with your thoughts on spite of releasing them. >> that thing they will not be in the report is the most interesting one and that is how jack smith destroyed his own case and my friend annie and i have both written about this and he had a clear easy case in florida, cannot that there were controversies but there were false statements and obstruction charges that he could have moved on. instead he loaded up with classified document charges that slowed it to a crawl. and then he brought the d.c. case which was a bridge too far, that i don't think whatever it been sustained. and the really interesting aspect is what they won't talk about in the rest we've seen because that judge in d.c. allowed much of this to be released in summary form earl earlier. >> shannon: the attorney general, amir garland has said he would release all special counsel reports on his watch. he did that with the investigation to

president biden's handling documents. does the ultimately get the jack smith stuff out the door? >> he does shannon but as jonathan said, it's a marginal importance at best. they filed a 2000 plus page submission that was public in court three weeks before the election. which again i think underscores the point here was not so much the litigation of trump, it was the election and trying to get the democrats in the white house. the point of that was to aid the democratic party messaging and the three weeks prior to the election. but the point is it was all out there. 2000 pages of disclosures. what on earth more could he tell us? and with respect to mar-a-lago, that case has been from here to the north pole. indicted a bunch of times, there's been elaborate, you know, motion practice for the last, you know, however many, two years? so there's nothing more they can tell us in these

reports. >> shannon: well we may see them anyway. or maybe not, we will see how that goes. jonathan turley andy mccarthy always appreciate your time. come back soon. >> thank you. >> they pushed a super hard to take down things that were honestly true. they basically pushed us and said anything that says that vaccines might have side effects, you basically need to take down. and i was just like we are not going to do that. >> shannon: so facebook and meta founder mark zuckerberg telling joe rogan about the interactions his company had with the biden administration and he's also rolling a big policy changes. time now for the sunday grip to see what they think. usa today washington bureau chief, the editor in chief, fox news senior political analyst and by the way authoring the brand-new book out tuesday new prize for these eyes, the rise of america's second civil rights movement.

and are editor in chief of jewish insider. welcome everybody and congrats on the book this week. somali, zuckerberg went on to say that wants they pushed back in earnest the agencies and government began investigating and coming up and said quote it was brutal. >> this was a fascinating three hour interview with joe rogan. were mark zuckerberg goes to what it's like to be subject to pressure from the government to censor american speech and debate and all sorts of issues and how any instance they put forward against this resolve to different agencies of the federal government coming after them seemingly unrelated but clearly because the government really wanted facebook to be a massive partner in the censorship regime. i don't know for americans realize how big that censorship regime has been and how much the speaking debate has been affected or really how much democrats have benefited from that. and zuckerberg goes through some of them, covid going to be one of them but so many other issues as well. huge advantage for democrats an acute problem for republicans.

if there's some easing up on that censorship regime you might see some big political results. >> i think conservatives are focused on the censorship angle and that's the one that zuckerberg pitched to joe rogan and his pitching otherwise but i think the reality is that jeff b's oh's, musk, zuckerberg, all these high-tech guy know where the gravy train is and who is driving the gravy train and that's donald trump the incoming president. and they want to keep public funds blowing to their programs, think spacex for example. but they're also i think concerned about regulation of the internet. and, you know, the internet to my mind is a cesspool. you think of the kinds of things that are out there and now he says he's not going to fact-check anything? the russians and the chinese must be celebrating. they will put out nonsense. you think about the damage the internet has done to our children into our lives, i just

think they have misdirected and a lot of people are being fooled the think it's a censorship argument when in reality we need in fact some regulation of what is the wild west on our computers. >> so what mark zuckerberg is getting rid of his of the left-wing fact-check enterprise where left-wing groups speak debate against conservatives. there are still be moderate ship but there will be done through free speech entered market of free speech where users can check information. but it is interesting people think that if you want to pleas democrats, you engage in massive censorship of american speech and debate and if you want to pleas republicans you embrace free-speech. i think that excellence a lot about the last election results. >> shannon: quick comments from this side of the table? >> i think the question as one pointed out, where do you draw the line? every social media platform will have some type of regulation and mark zuckerberg is clearly loosening those

regulations. ethic it's unmistakable that's not out of altruism entirely that there's a new republican president donald trump coming in with the new republican congress and worried about regulation and trump perhaps putting out on the social media platforms and that's also part of the dynamic. but the reality is having a successful social media platform you have to have that somewhere. the question of where the line is drawn is the key one and it's clear that i think it's all most impossible to monitor every crude comment are every, you know, ugly thing that sit on the internet i think they made it easier and have a touch of what they want to say. >> shannon: susan it's been interesting to watch the parade of mar-a-lago and these incidents not that long ago. >> president savard power leasing demonstration for soft power in the recalibration by these media companies in the recalibration by democrats and the recalibration by foreign leaders who are trying to get right with a guy who's going to have power next week.

>> shannon: susan i wanted to talk to you because we talk about leaving the office and how the exit interview with president biden was fascinating and again you talk about regrets and people say there will be some questions about afghanistan and the way the withdrawal what down and he sent you to the idea that he didn't do a good enough job of combating this information was one of the biggest regrets. >> combating misinformation making the case of his economic policies that will help americans. 's biggest regret in the interview that i did with him will go to his own communications ability to combat misinformation to make his case to the american people and i think that's one reason he did this interview. wanted to make his case for a legacy at a time where there's a lot of criticism on things like his age and his health and his part of the sun. >> shannon: what about this idea of him prepardoning or partnering people for their charged, things like liz cheney or anthony found she? >> he has said what signals

donald trump sense when he comes to the office but he says he made that case to trump in that meeting he and trump had a week after the election. they met in the oval office and told trump it doesn't serve your interest to go after these people you see as your enemies. he said trump didn't indicate he would take his advice but he did say he listened. >> shannon: it was a fascinating interview and thank you for sharing that with the rest of us out here. in the meantime we've got folks on capitol hill trying to figure out what the next administration will mean to them and how they will work together and there's a bit of a meltdown for some of the democrats like the riley act and coming together. rolling stone has this headline, democrats are rolling over for trump and republicans are loving it. the resistance is over as john federman, chuck schumer and many more democrat signal a new era of enhanced democratic subservience. is that overstating it? >> a little bit but elections have meaning and trump won a pretty decisive victory.

you also attend democratic senators representing states that donald trump carried and a lot of them supported or have supported on record the act and are trying to figure out ways they can work with this new administration. it's not just altruism or they agree on policy but they understand the voters in their districts do want to see cooperation and 53 republican senators, tim democrats and trump states is a possibility for bipartisanship even if trump chooses to go in that direction. >> shannon: what you thing but bipartisanship in this new congress? >> i'm all for it and that all the power is with donald trump the incoming president. the lake and riley act is about punishing criminals. people who commit theft and burglary and illegal immigrants i don't have american legal protections anyways. i think most democrats and americans would overall agree with that. >> there's also issues were democrats are on the wrong side of this 75, 25 issues. there's a lot of other issues

involved. >> their counting on trump to overreach on the immigration bill and draw some distinctions. >> shannon: thank you very much. i was appreciate your insights and see one sunday. the dnc is a electing a new leader is calls for change in the party grow louder in the wake of a bruising election defeat. ken martin is campaigning to be the new dnc chair so what is the party learned in this postelection autopsy? he is life next.

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and can find a health plan that's right for you. >> shannon: the dnc will meet next month to elect party chairs as democrats try to recalibrate after the g.o.p.'s decisive victory in november. one of the front runners to fill the position ken martin the current chair of the minnesota democratic former labour party. welcome to fox news sunday. >> thank you so much for having me. >> shannon: let's talk a little bit postelection analysis. our fox news analysis say they favor president trump on nine points on crime, ten points on the economy, 16 to 17 points on immigration. what has been your assessment of why the message did not connect better with the american people and is there any internal agreement with the

democratic party? >> we are still analysing everything from last year we know we have lost ground with latino voters and with working-class households and with women and young voters. a whole group of demographics and parts of our coalition need to do better with for sure. as you mention we lost ground in some of these important issues and we need to really get to the bottom of that but one of the things that surprised me last year and should have been a red flag for our party is our process of the two parties and the majority of americans now believe the republicans are best suited to the working class and the poor in the democratic party is the party of the elite. that's an indictment of who we are and we've got to change that because i will tell you from personal experience i mom was 15 years old when she had me and by herself and if there wasn't a community or a government that cared about those little kids in the family we won't be here and

our party has to fight for working families again and there's so much to learn still and get to the bottom of it but i will tell you what, the democratic party needs to do a better job for americans and friendly working families that they will stand up and make their lives better. >> shannon: you are one of several people to running to become the new dnc chair. it's on "the new york times" sorted out. the dnc chair posed is described as one of the worst jobs in american politics, especially when democrats do not hold the white house. lever wins the vote will be responsible for helping lead a party grappling with wyatt lost again to donald trump while keeping peace in congressional committees ambitious governors and state parties. why take on this job? >> you first off you are absolutely right. political equivalency is if you get piston on everyone and you don't get the credit if you when you get all the blame if you

lose. the reality is a very thankless job but the reality is you do it because you love the party and you do it because we have to rebuild this party and we have to unite our party to win and not just to pat ourselves on the back because we won elections but we win so we can improve people's lives and make people's lives easier to afford an easier to live. that's why i'm running, i want to get the dnc out of d.c., focused in partnership with her 57 state parties on a plan to compete with every zip code and every big part of the ballot. it's a job but i let the party here in minnesota successfully for the last 14 years and we haven't lost an election here in minnesota. we are 25-0 and i thing we will scale it up with the dnc and bring the same model to the national democratic party. >> shannon: your supporters describe you as a workhorse and you will talk with them in the coming weeks as well. big forum yesterday and the folks can watch it on c-span and

you will see other report leading up to the vote. in the meantime we appreciate your time. >> thank you shannon. >> shannon: up next a preview of president trump's second inauguration. you're watching live as rehearsal for inaugural parade is underway in washington, d.c., this morning. the mayor on how they're getting it all in order for the inauguration coming up on the 20th. turn 65. but, you do face more risk from flu and covid. last year alone, those viruses hospitalized nearly 1 million people 65 and older. 1 million. vaccines lower your risk of getting really sick, so you can keep doing you.

>> shannon: you are looking live here in washington, d.c., this morning. they are holding the rehearsal, that run through for the inaugural parade that is eight days away. it'll be the trump-vance inauguration on january 20th and these are live rehearsals on their way. next week fox news sunday will go through it all and will have a bird's-eye view so you can see where all the action will happen as president trump this morning for a second term next sunday and brand-new episode of my podcast drops today. this week my conversation with dr. bobby duke is that chief officer of the museum of the bible. we talk about some stunning new archeological discovering's and the new surprising things they revealed about the early church

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