follow through. vegas, baby. vegas. it happens. egas, baby. we will see directing more than $2 billion in emergency aid as more wildfires spark danger across southern california. >> people feel helpless, but not everybody feels hopeless. [music] and i think this is about distilling a sense of hopefulness. >> from ktvu, fox two news. this is the four. >> and governor newsom, just a short time ago, directing roughly $2.5 billion to fund the ongoing fire fight in southern california and the recovery efforts. and right now, crews are still spread thin, working on at least six different fires across the region. one of the most concerning is the hughes fire, which has grown to more than 10,000 acres in northern los angeles county. welcome,

everyone to the four this afternoon i'm alex savage. >> and good afternoon. i'm frank mallicoat. the seemingly endless series of fires all across southern california may be an omen of what's to come. even before and after the traditional warm weather, fire season peaks of what's become now a fire year. ktvu tom vacar joins us for a look at the short and the long term implications of these events. tom. >> and they are many, because these fires will completely redefine preparation and firefighting itself. in less than 24 hours, the hughes fire consumed over 10,000 acres. though this fire is getting the headlines, the palisades and eton fires are still burning and dangerous. >> from the palisades to our multiple wildland fires that have occurred in the city and around the city within our region. it's been extremely challenging. >> consider this even a week before the month is over, california has already racked up more than 51,000 acres burned,

compared to just four acres by this time last year, and just 457 acres over the five year average rains expected in la this weekend raised concerns about mudflows, but the national weather service says the rains will not be significant to create dramatic flows or extinguish the fires and terrain. drying santa winds will not abate until at least the end of february, often continuing into the spring. syracuse university paleoclimatologist professor tripti bhattacharya studies the history of climate changes. >> the santa ana winds, which bring this low humidity, dry, warm air to the coast, definitely help exacerbate the fire risk. and that's why there's a warning for fire weather going forward the next couple of weeks. >> doctor daniel swain is a ucla climate scientist who shows in a graphic that the coming rains

could be meaningless. >> i think this period will very likely be a period of greatly reduced fire risk. once we get back to the end of the first week in february, though, unless it rains again, we're going to be at the mercy of the winds, because all it will take is one santa ana event to evaporate all of this water. and we'll be right back to where we started. >> usc economist adam rose is a renowned risk analysis expert for disasters ranging from terrorist attacks to weather and wildfires. >> if you look ahead, while this was unprecedented, this is not necessarily the worst of these types of events that will happen in the future. there are very likely to be even worse conditions. >> now getting real, given the way the winds were. it is very possible that if every fire engine in the state was on site, they could not have prevented the mass destruction that we saw. yes, it was that bad. the winds were that strong. back to you. >> all right. tom vacar in our

newsroom. tom, thank you for that. >> all right, let's keep talking here about the winds in southern california, because we want to bring in meteorologist mark tamayo. you're tracking the red flag conditions that are still persisting in southern california. but they are going to let up here. the winds will. but by tomorrow, we hope. right? >> yeah, that's our thinking, alex. as we do head into your friday, we'll see a weather shift. but today the winds have been a big challenge for the fire crews. we had a high wind warning earlier today and a red flag warning that continues. so there is the hughes fire, as you can see, to the north of santa clarita, that little red perimeter there, that is the fire perimeter. and as you can see, it's just really showing up on this map, just a defined area as we show you the current wind reports. and unfortunately the winds still a factor you can see gusting to 28 to 32 miles an hour, that warm spring sites a higher elevation, but gusting to 46 miles an hour. that is right. now look at those relative humidity levels very low down around right around 7%. so the red flag warning continues for

all of these areas in southern california, including the main fire zones, until five 10:00 friday morning, winds could be gusting to over 40 over 50 miles an hour. here is the short term forecast 9:00 tonight is still windy, but finally we see a change in the overall weather pattern into your friday and this is a big time improvement as we see light winds and a change in the overall wind flow. and as you have been hearing about over the past few days, there is increasing confidence that we will bring in some rainfall in southern california. and these amounts could be maybe topping a half an inch or so, and that will be on sunday. so they're talking about rain in the in the southern portion of the state this weekend. even a chance here in the bay area. we'll have more on that coming up in just a few minutes. >> all right mark, thank you for that. today, marking the second year anniversary of the deadly half moon shooting, half moon bay shooting that killed seven farm workers and shocked the small coastal community. >> ktvu jana katsuyama is joining us now live from half moon bay with more on how the city is honoring the memory of those who were killed and helping others to heal. janet.

>> alex and frank. the city wanted to give the community a space where they can come and remember those victims. so they have the banner here. and also, if you look over on the other side, they are getting community input now on future future memorial for those victims so that they will not be forgotten. flowers and a banner placed in the plaza across from half moon bay city hall thursday marked the loss two years ago, when seven farm workers were gunned down by a coworker at the concord and terra california farms. still, painful memories for people in the community. artemio figueroa remembers that day and says the people killed, they had family here. it was a huge shock that was felt here in the community. >> we checked in with one of the daughters that lost both of her parents at one of these farms. >> sandra santillan with the nonprofit says. she called each of the victims families thursday. >> checking in and letting them know that we are with them,

thinking of them. >> it wasn't until this tragedy that it really shifted the narrative for the whole co site to say, we need to do something. >> in two years there has been change. according to alyssa's founder, belinda hernandez arriaga, she says they've been providing workers with more mental health services and there is construction of new affordable housing, with 28 of the 47 units reserved for the victims families and farm workers. >> there were 19 households displaced from from their living situations. both of the farms also served as residents to some of these families, and so they immediately had to leave the property. >> on thursday, the city also displayed three possible designs for a memorial getting public input. the design committee includes a survivor of the shooting, and the hope is to create the memorial site at kitty fernandez park, honoring the mexican heritage of two victims and the chinese heritage of five of the victims. and along with this gathering

tonight is also planned. some events tomorrow at 11:00, a press conference with the farm workers association, and then in the evening, a candlelight vigil at 6:00 with some of the family members of the victims, alex and frank. >> all right, jenna, that's good to see housing being built there. but do they have a timeline for when those houses will be ready for the farm workers? >> they are working as quickly as possible, frank, because some of those conditions were really deemed too squalid and unlivable. so they are hoping that they can get this all done by spring so that those families can move in. >> yeah. an important project. >> jana katsuyama, live in half moon bay for us. jenna. thank you. state lawmakers are now considering legislation that would create protections for communities and environmentally sensitive areas affected by lithium battery energy storage systems. this all follows that huge fire that destroyed most of vistra energy's moss landing storage facility late last week.

the fire forced hundreds of people to evacuate the area and drew intense concern from elected officials over the health and environmental impacts of the fire and those toxic fumes. they say the battery energy safety and accountability act will help prevent future energy storage fires. >> additionally, ab 303 will establish reasonable limitations on where battery energy storage facilities can be located, ensuring that they will not be built in environmentally sensitive areas such as high fire and high flood zones. >> governor newsom and other state leaders have called for an independent cpuc investigation into what caused that battery storage plant fire. up next here on the four this afternoon, a federal judge halts president trump's effort to end birthright citizenship after lawsuits from more than 20 states, including california. what happens next in s

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president trump's executive order that seeks to restrict birthright citizenship. the judge called that order blatantly unconstitutional. this hearing was for the first of five lawsuits brought by 22 states, including california, along with a number of immigrant rights groups across the country. they are all challenging trump's order, which calls for ending automatic citizenship for children born here in the u.s. to undocumented immigrants or mothers who are temporary residents. the lawsuits argue that the order is a violation of the 14th amendment to the u.s. constitution. >> is a nationwide order, essentially directs the united states government to take no further action in implementing the president's unconstitutional order. >> i would like to remind donald trump that the united states became the most powerful, most prosperous nation on earth, not in spite of immigrants, but because of them. >> and house republicans now are

getting involved. they have introduced a bill similar to trump's executive order, saying that citizenship should be earned and not automatically granted at birth. they are hoping the issue ultimately reaches the supreme court. >> president trump spoke at the world economic forum in switzerland today, marking the first international address of his second term. speaking virtually, the president doubled down on his willingness to tax foreign goods. he called on business leaders and some of the world's top ceos to manufacture in america, promising lower taxes. >> if you don't make your product in america, which is your prerogative, then very simply, you will have to pay a tariff. differing amounts, but a tariff which will direct hundreds of billions of dollars and even trillions of dollars into our treasury. >> president trump also spoke about the flurry of executive actions he's taken since he was sworn in on monday. the world economic forum brings together

some 3000 leaders, including top ceos and government officials from all over the world. turning now to our bay area weather, a live look at mount diablo and what was just a picture perfect day. if you didn't get out and about, you still got a little bit of time. let's check in with mark and see what lies ahead here in the bay area. great day. >> yeah, definitely. it has been a nice little weather stretch for us after the chilly mornings. a nice chance to get outside this afternoon with the temperatures in the 60s. even the lower 70s. but some changes beginning tomorrow and really kicking in this weekend. so this was the scene today looking out toward the golden gate bridge. a beautiful day looking out toward the bay. so we had sunshine today. 60s and some lower 70s. this weekend we're going to cool things off. we'll have some winds as well, and temperatures will be back down mainly in the 50s this weekend, and the winds will be ramping up as well. a wind advisory already posted for portions of solano county out toward the north bay hills as well. this begins 10 p.m. friday through saturday into sunday morning, and winds could be gusting to over 40 miles an

hour. as far as rainfall, the bulk of the action will be focused to our south down in southern california for the fire zone. so as we put this model into motion, you can see the main action is to our south and also to our east. but there is the chance of some scattered showers here in the bay area. so as you can see, the satellite, the main storm track is up to the north of the bay area. right now, the main cloud cover up here. so we've been in this dry weather stretch and it will last at least. we're not talking about any significant rainfall, but it might come to an end into the weekend. right now though, lots of clear skies. we'll check out some of the current numbers for the 4:00 hour. san francisco 65. look at that. san jose 73 degrees. so a warm day in the south bay. concord is 67 and santa rosa in the upper 60s. we'll check out the winds right now. and these panels, the winds are relatively light. you can see san jose, a calm wind, and out toward livermore, an easterly breeze at 12mph. here's our live camera looking out towards san francisco, wrapping up a beautiful afternoon. as frank mentioned, with mostly sunny skies, we are expecting partly cloudy skies first thing

tomorrow morning. temperatures in the 30s and the 40s, so a bit of a chill in the air first thing tomorrow morning, but no frost advisories. here's the change though. tomorrow we do bring in some clouds tomorrow morning, 7:00, and then into the afternoon hours. we could actually have maybe. mostly cloudy skies. look what happens into saturday. this is when things possibly could get interesting with maybe some shower chances. back in our forecast, we'll talk more about your weekend outlook with your full update coming up in a few minutes. >> all right. we'll see you in a bit. mark. thank you for that. santa cruz county is launching a brand new initiative to help improve interactions with people in crisis. the care alert program is a collaboration among law enforcement agencies in the county. county officials said the initial idea was proposed by the mother of a son, who wound up in jail during a mental health crisis. starting today, people can voluntarily registered loved ones online, providing information for dispatchers and triggers that might affect their interactions with law enforcement. >> we're asking for potential

calming methods, things that can develop a rapport between the responding officers or deputies and the person who is in this program. just things that make that interaction safer for everyone involved smoother, more efficient, and more effective. >> officials said santa cruz is the first county in the state to implement this new program. they say it will help them handle some 3000 calls a year. >> and for more on how this program is going to work moving forward, we are joined live this afternoon by santa cruz county sheriff chris clark. sheriff, we appreciate the time. thank you for doing it. we certainly want to get some more background on how this program is going to work. and obviously, the idea here is that your deputies and members of law enforcement will have more information about a person who may be struggling with mental health issues through this program. how do you envision that changes the way that a law enforcement officer might approach a person in crisis? >> yeah. thanks, frank and alex, i'm really excited about this program. i mean, for us as an

office, not including other agencies in our county, we go to about 3000 crisis calls a year. and these are people in, you know, suffering from a variety of different issues. what this system does is it's another tool for us. we have mental health liaisons, mental health referrals. we do a number of things in the mental health space, but it provides families with a way of being able to provide more intimate information to officers about the about someone. if law enforcement were to have to respond to somebody's house, for example, like, hey, my daughter would rather you call her sam, not samantha, or she's triggered by loud noises. and so it would be helpful if, you know, you didn't, you know, arrive with sirens if we had to call you. and so it's all on a voluntary basis, but it's getting that information into the hands of the folks that are responding to these calls to be able to just better help us navigate those situations when they arise. and, you know, we say it all the time that public safety is co-produced between us and the community, and we're really excited to have this program and launching that today for folks that live in santa cruz county.

>> and, chris, i'm curious what kind of training is involved for your deputies and other members of your department to understand the information that's available in the care alert program and making sure they have that readily available when they go on a call, per se. >> yeah. so we've done a lot of things both in our with, with, with cit training, but with the care alert specifically, we've launched a training, a training bulletin, a training sessions to all of our deputies, all of the officers here countywide. and how that works is as soon as we vetted the information, we want to make sure that the information is accurate and that it's not somebody providing false information about somebody else, but we'll make contact with the person that's provided us that info. and then what happens there is that information then gets sent to our dispatch center so that when we're dispatched to, say, an address that the dispatcher is providing us with those with those really valuable pieces of information at the time that we're that before we arrived, before we get there. >> obviously, as you pointed out, this is, you know, this

information would be submitted all on a voluntary basis. the whole program is voluntary here, but it feels to me like it only works if you get people sort of buying into this idea and actually submitting information about a loved one who may be facing some of the challenges that you spoke about here, how as a department, how do you go about sort of getting the word out and trying to compel people to submit this kind of information through the care alert program? >> yeah, i think it's allowing people to just hear us when we say that we understand there could be some trepidation with someone that's in crisis and wanting to make sure that we're all safely navigating those calls, making it safe for the folks that we're responding to, as well as it is for the folks that are like our folks that are responding there as far as line staff is concerned. so it comes from the it comes from the heart of wanting to know, and really, how do we make this this better? how do we better help you? how do we better serve you from a public safety standpoint. and in that is what we're at our core, what we're all about. and so this is just another mechanism

to really allow the public to really help us help you in a lot of ways. and so that we can we can provide the best service we can. and the mental health database, who will have access to it. and you mentioned it's voluntary or will the county require people to register loved ones that may have mental health issues? maybe they were violent, or maybe they had a brush with the law as well as. >> yeah, we're not looking we're not looking for specific, you know, medical diagnoses or anything necessarily protected in that regard. we're just looking for real common sense, you know, things in terms of how do we interact with people if we have to arrive at your home for whatever reason? and so and then it is it is secure. it's only accessible to only a select few here at our department and our dispatchers that have access to it. it's not open to the public, but obviously we would want to vet the information as it comes in and making sure that it's as accurate as possible. >> and one of the few counties in the country to implement a program like this. appreciate

the conversation. that is. santa cruz county sheriff chris clark joining us live this afternoon. we appreciate it. sheriff. good to see you. >> thanks, frank. thanks, ale y'all take

used to help doctors and nurses. as fox's evan brown tells us, the company behind this technology says the robots won't replace medical professionals, but they can serve as an assistant. >> we've heard a lot about the robot revolution lately, and now

our automated friends are seeing more action than ever, thanks to ai programing. that's prompted a push for robots in the medical field, but so far they've been used for things like transcription and disinfecting. now, one company, enchanted tools, has gone a step further, deploying a robotic medical assistant called muroki. the developers say it arose out of a lack of trained medical personnel. >> what we see is that we need more nurses. we need more caregivers to bring them a superb tool, something that helps them to increase their productivity. >> muroki isn't designed to replace your doctor or your nurse, but it can make their jobs easier by taking on some of the logistical tasks and patient interaction. and it was designed to put patients at ease with a fox like appearance and a character backstory. >> it comes with a kind of psychological effect that we need to take into account when we are designing such machines,

so that's why that was very important for me to start from scratch. >> and they're already being deployed at a hospital in montpellier, france, where they're doing everything from carrying supplies to offering emotional support for child cancer patients. >> of course. kids are like, wow, a robot. but it's not only kids. >> the medical robotics industry is worth about $16 billion, and that is expected to double over the next five years. in miami, evan brown, fox news. >> president trump ordering federal workers to return back to the office. up next here on the four. we're live with an industry expert to discuss that directive and the data suggesting remote positions produce better work. straight if you're frustrated with occasional bloating or gas, your body's giving you signs. it's time to try align. align probiotic was specifically designed by

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back to work on site full time in the next 30 days. that memo came from the office of personnel management last night via president trump's executive order that he signed on his inauguration day on monday. there are currently 2.3 million plus federal workers here in the u.s. and with some insight, we welcome in curtis barer. he's principal and co-founder of burisma public relations, specializing in tech. great to have you with us, curtis. good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> all right. well, let's start with the logistics of this with 30 days notice. can can this be done at the federal level?

>> probably not. there's all sorts of problems already, and people are already looking at how hard this is going to be done. and so i will i'm going to expect that this is going to be a long process. and we're going to hear that this is going to be botched. >> okay. well let's talk statistics. if you compare the productivity of someone working in house and someone working at home, how how do they compare? >> well, all sorts of research has been done on this. and i think my favorite research comes from the federal reserve. the san francisco branch found that there was no difference in productivity. and so i think that really calls into question, why are we doing this in the first place? because everything about working from home makes more sense in terms of the environment, in terms of the cost, in terms of like quality of life. and so i think this is just kind of old fashioned thinking, you know, rearing its head at the start of this administration. >> well, i mentioned the number off the top 2.3 million plus federal employees in the u.s. to

do they have any idea how many work remotely out of that group? >> not really. they're trying to figure that out. all the reports show that they are putting allowances and clauses in to make some wiggle room for the implementation of this. and so i think that we're going to see constant updates as this, you know, story pushes along. >> how about reaction. i imagine the federal workers are not too happy about this either. >> no. federal workers are really mad. and there is this kind of sense of dread in washington about how, you know, this is just death by a thousand cuts. and so they're expecting another bad thing to happen tomorrow and another bad thing to happen after that. so i think everyone's pretty upset. i know a lot of federal workers are looking for new jobs. and while some, you know, budget hawks might think great, great, let the people go. the real truth is that talented people are going to leave. and that's what we see every time a company gets really

draconian with work from home, the best people know they don't have to put up with that. and as the economy improves, we're going to see more and more employees demanding to work from home. >> yeah, well, it's certainly a trend, especially after the pandemic. there was a little bit of ambiguity in the trump order. the difference between telework and remote work. how are they different and how does that apply to the mandate from president trump? >> that's a really good question. and, you know, the thing is, people are scratching their heads. they're not really sure. and that's kind of endemic of the whole thing that this has been a very grand, muscular, you know, order. and yet the specifics are very weak. and so people are really trying to figure out what this really, truly means. >> well, if the mandate were to be applied to the private sector, would that make their products or potential employment less desirable? i know there was a study on that kind of tangential. what do they find from that? >> you know, nvidia is a work from anywhere company, and they're one of the most valuable

companies in the world. and so i think that shows that working from home really can work. in fact, you can see all the awards behind me. we've been a work from home agency for ten years since our inception, and we are the most awarded agency person by person in the united states. so i don't think it's really a matter of work from home or work from the office. i think it's really about company culture and a culture of accountability. and so you can have people work from home. but our research also shows that when people go back to the office, they take those same sort of traits of working from home and apply them there. >> especially the time saved and the money saved in commuting, sitting in your car, sitting in traffic when you can have your cup of coffee at 8:00 or 9:00, go right to work. >> you know, the other thing that's important to know is that working from home five days a week cuts your carbon footprint in half, and we have a deadline to cut our collective carbon

footprint and hat in ten years. and so i'm hoping we're going to make it because you can't really have a good business if the whole species is extinct. >> yeah. well, good point by you. well, we got 30 days. >> to be a drag or anything. >> we got a month to think about it. we'll see how the federal government deals with this. curtis spera, the principal and co-founder of burisma public relations. a big thank you to you, sir. all the best. >> thank you. >> on capitol hill today, the senate confirmed john ratcliffe to lead the cia. ratcliffe was director of national intelligence during the first trump administration. he now becomes the second member of the president's cabinet to be confirmed. the confirmation process hasn't been quite as easy for some other picks. the controversial nominee for defense secretary, pete hegseth, made it through a procedural vote today, but senators are expected to debate his confirmation for hours as part

of a delay tactic. >> i left mr. hegseth hearing last week with a number of unanswered questions and some real concerns about his qualifications. >> the nominee himself is unconventional. that may be what makes mr. hegseth a good choice. >> he is a former fox news host and military veteran. confirmation votes for trump's nominees for homeland security, treasury and transportation secretary are coming up next, with democrats expected to filibuster. up next here on the four this afternoon, an escalating war of words between openai ceo sam altman and elon musk. the clash over stargate and trump's push to expand the country's artificial in lligence if you like options, you'll love my $6 all day big deal meal. choose from 4 delicious entrées and 5 tasty sides with a drink. oh, and nobody else includes breakfast items all day. just this guy.

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questioned this investment in ai, and that led to an online clash of sorts with openai ceo sam altman. the two of them have been going back and forth for more. we're joined now live by casey ellis, the founder of bugcrowd, a san francisco based crowdsourced cybersecurity platform. casey, good to have you on here. i think we need to start with this sort of back and forth between elon musk and sam altman, so you can help us make sense of what we're watching here. we saw just recently altman, his latest post, he's sharing photos of what he says is one of these stargate ai facilities that's already under construction in texas. and this was in response to a post by elon musk. what what is at the heart of this feud between the two of them? >> look, i think it's elon being elon and kind of calling into question or calling into detail how these things are going to be funded. you know, some of the things that have been said around the amount of money that's available for this, he's kind of unpacked that and wants, you know, a deeper explanation of it. and in the meantime, i

think, you know, sam and the openai folk, as you mentioned, they're already kind of underway with, with, with getting this stuff built out. so it' definitely, you know, a public version of a private discourse. i think we're seeing at this point in time. and given how topical this all is, and, you know, the flurry of policy making and obviously the, the, the way the ai is featuring in a lot of the conversation at the moment, i think they're both kind of, you know, just making sure that what their thinking and their point of view and what they expect to see coming over the hill is, is known. >> yeah. and it certainly does sound like, according to the reporting that this, this stargate project has kind of been in the works now for, for quite some time. that's what we're hearing. let's talk now about just the broad significance of, of this project, this $500 billion investment that's being promised here by these three companies, much of which is going to be used to build out these new ai data centers across the country. why is it so important to build out that kind of infrastructure? why do we need this? >> yeah, absolutely. look, the

other piece that's a follow up from this is that there was an executive order dropped from from the white house, probably two, two and a half, three hours ago around removing barriers to artificial intelligence. so, you know, while the stargate announcement was kind of the joint venture, you know, conversation and call it the pitch, so to speak, to the american public, the actual policy documents that support going after ai more aggressively, you know, really as a, as a, as an issue of national priority and national security. i think to your question why this is important and why it's being kind of pursued in this way is that, you know, artificial intelligence is being seen as kind of a great power technology. it's one of those things where if you if you have the biggest ai, you you win kind of on a global scale. and, you know, we're not i wouldn't say that we're seeing that yet in practice. but i think, you know, a lot of folks, myself included, actually do believe in that sort of being the future of, of how this technology is going to influence, you know, global order and all those different things. so as an issue

of politics and as an issue that's coming from the white house, making sure that there's a kind of a top down directive to make sure that this is known as a priority within the us is obviously strategic as trump takes office, but also very important. and, you know, as we mentioned before, there's a lot of folk already thinking about this and already working on it. just very practically speaking, you need computers, you need, you know, real estate, you need, you know, places to actually house the cpus that are doing all the data crunching, places to store the data you need power available to, to keep all of that stuff switched on, keep the lights on, so to speak. and that is a pretty significant infrastructure project. so that's really what they're signaling here. >> yeah. and you know, obviously it does send a signal that this this administration obviously wants to make, you know, these kinds of investments in ai. but as you sort of talk about the other side of the coin, along with the big investment announcement, is the fact that we did have president trump this week rolling back a number of former president biden's orders when it comes to ai. and this includes guardrails that have

been put on the technology, forcing ai companies to share the details of their technology with the government before they're released to the public. you have any concerns about those kind of orders being rolled back and those guardrails being being taken down? >> look, to some degree. so eo 14 110, which is the secure you know, i executive order issued by the biden administration in 2023. i actually had the opportunity to work on that, particularly on the cybersecurity, privacy and kind of testing side of things, like as we're developing all this new technology, it's smart to, you know, have something in place to be able to figure out if there's security or safety issues that get caused as we're innovating so quickly. so, you know, i would be concerned if, if stuff like that disappeared, you know, i'm not, frankly, alarmed by that right now, because when you look, you look at how some of the follow up on on kind of revisiting the, the downstream kind of what is it the work kind

of triggered by the executive order that that came out in the biden administration. it doesn't say, throw it all in the trash. it basically says anything that's in there that, you know, meaningfully impedes america's ability to be dominant in ai, goes through an audit for those sorts of things, and then those those will be revisited from a policy standpoint. so, look, i think it's a little too early for concern or alarm on my side. i'm trying to be pragmatic on that. obviously, seeing all these things that are in the interest of public safety and cyber security and, you know, all those kind of different things that we need to be thinking about. with the technology as powerful as i think those are important to have them around and for them to remain. but i think this administration is aware of that as well. so, you know, i would expect to see some of those things kind of reinserted as this policy gets kind of regenerated in the trump era. >> yeah. and before, you know, trump took office for the second time, you know, we did see sort of some public commitments from a lot of the major ai companies that they were open to

government oversight, sort of understanding the concerns, as you talked about around cybersecurity, national security, do you think we are going to see continue to see that kind of openness? how would you define how how open these companies are to having the government regulate the technology that they're putting out to the world? >> yeah, i mean, i think the fact that, you know, openai and others are actively a part of this conversation around stargate, around, you know, i presume the creation of this, this new executive order around artificial intelligence dominance, all those different things. they clearly want to be at the table when it comes to, you know, policy creation around ai safety and security and just the pursuit of ai as, as, you know, something that's fundamentally transformational. and i think ultimately a really important thing for america to be on top of its game with as it goes forward. so it's not like they're shy of regulation now. i think really what we're what we're seeing is that, you know, some of the biden era stuff was

pretty focused on the brake pedal. and what we're now seeing is, is what, you know, the trump administration is going to do on the gas on the gas pedal side of things. i think they're all i think they're going to be, you know, pretty interested in staying quite closely involved in both, because ultimately we're going to end up with a combination of the two. i think, you know, how do how do we how do we prompt innovation, you know, be in a position where we're dominant as a country, all those different things, but also make sure that we're doing that in a way that doesn't, you know, minimizes unintended consequence on safety and security, especially the american population itself. >> and you bring up the question of dominance here. and as we wrap up the conversation, casey, you don't have we don't have a whole lot of time left. but, you know, i know in in the comments he's made this week, president trump has been clear that he wants the united states to be the global leader when it comes to artificial intelligence, and specifically to beat out china here. so can you sort of give us a lay of the land who don't really understand this industry and the ins and outs of it? where do we stand? where does the united states truly stand in the global ai race?

>> i think the us has applied. i mean, the us is doing some phenomenal things, and all the companies inside the us that are working on this stuff are really kind of leading the way in terms of technology and thinking. i would say that, you know, stuff that's been developed out of the prc, you don't have to worry about administrations changing every four years. so you've got the ability to have a bit more continuity in your overall kind of national approach to building this kind of tech. and there's a lot of people working on it. they've been working on it very consistently. so, you know, in terms of the actual who's doing better right now, that's a really difficult question to answer because obviously information is limited in both directions. but i would say that it's a it's a good thing that we're stepping on the gas at the same time as, you know, making sure that we don't forget about the brakes. >> all right. well, i appreciate the insight here and the perspective as always. and the conversation. casey ellis, founder of bugcrowd, the san francisco co based cybersecurity platform. appreciate the time. it's good to see you. >> thank you. you too. cheers.

>> all right. let's turn our attention to weather. beautiful shot. as the sun is beginning to set over the over the city of san francisco. that's the oakland estuary on what was just a banner day so far. let's check in with mark and find out if that sunshine is going to keep shining the next few days. >> well, why not have a few clouds visit the bay area tomorrow? it will be changing a bit, but it has been a dry weather stretch. hard to believe it is january with the temperatures today. a few spots in the lower 70s. so it has been quite a bit of time since we've been talking about some rain here in the bay area. going back to the first friday of the year, friday, january 3rd. so a dry stretch is up to 20 days, but things will be changing as we head into the weekend. not a widespread soaking rain event, but there is a chance of some showers here in the bay area. and finally, some snow showers out in the lake tahoe area that will be on saturday, so they could definitely use some more snow to help build up those bases once again. and then, as you can see to our south for the southern sierra, for the mountains of southern

california, they actually have a winter weather advisory. and snowfall could be around 2 to 8in. so big time changes in the south. here's the satellite this afternoon showing you lots of cloud cover, but it's way up to the north, so we still have lots of clear skies. some of that cloud cover up to our north will move in first thing friday morning. so this will be moving into northern california for tomorrow, so it won't be completely crystal clear. blue skies for your friday. current numbers. we have san francisco to mild 65. look at san jose. a nice day. 73 concord, 67. and napa right now in the mid 60s, 65 degrees. here's kind of a neat shot looking above san francisco out toward ocean beach. and still lots of clear skies and nice vantage point from here, so no fog to speak of. the key change for tomorrow will be increasing high clouds and a bit of a cool down, but still a fairly nice friday as we do move into your forecast for tomorrow. another cool start as well. no frost advisories but still want to bundle up tomorrow morning. with temperatures in the 30s and the 40s when you step outside the door. so here's the setup. this area of high

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