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we have accomplished make more -- accompanist more in one week and others have accomplished in years. >> president donald trump hits the ground running with major changes both at home and abroad as two of the president's most critical cabinet picks are confirmed. >> chant they got approved and christine norm got approved governor. >> reporter: tom caught another third ranking republican in the senate joins us to live as another key trump nominee prepares for a make shannon: or break week in front of the intelligence committee he now leads. plus... four more hostages released from hamas captivity as the cease-fire agreement enters a second week. rejoined exclusively on the state of the fragile deal and the impact of the new president's vision for the region. then. >> this is about ensuring the citizenship of our national identity. >> this executive order is not only going to be burdensome it's
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unconstitutional. >> border security and the fight over birthrate citizenship we will look at the legal challenges and how it might play out in our nation's highest courts. all right now on fox news sunday. ♪ ♪ hello from fox news in washington we begin with a look at some of your top headlines. much-needed rain is falling in southern california today. it aids firefighters as they tried to prevent another major flare up but there are worries major reign over the next few days could trigger mudslides and charred dry neighborhoods. the supreme justice warmed christine don't late saturday she resigned as north dakota's governor succeeded by lieutenant governor larry roden. and israel four more hostages are back home this weekend from hamas captivity in gaza after an exchange for hundreds of palestinian prisoners. in the moment we will get reaction from
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senators tom cotten and richard blumenthal but first return to fox news chief foreign correspondent on the ground in israel, trent 12. >> reporter: after forges submissive and is waiting for hostages released from captivity saturday morning. the women were paraded through gaza city across a stage before they were taken into custody of the red cross. in the emotional moment as the israeli soldiers were reunited with family members along the gaza border before being flown to a hospital in central israel. the exchange was the second of phase one and the cease-fire agreement and also included the release of nearly 200 palestinian prisoners. some of the prisoners were released into waiting crowds in the west bank city while dozens more of the violent offenders were exiled in the egypt. their current cease-fire deal is in jeopardy as it is really is weighed for the list of the reigning hostages had to be freed in the first round of the deal than released for other
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civilians being held inside gaza including a female from the community of me roses believed to be alive. a response israel has paused the ability for palestinians to return from the south which is a key part of the agreement yesterday president trump said he is asking egypt and jordan to open their borders to allow palestinians to go there while gaza is being cleared of hamas and rebuild. trump left open the idea this could be a temporary or long-term solution. that your reactions in gaza. the u.s. president donald trump completely rejected, completely. if you thanks he will forcibly displace the palestinian people this is impossible. it is impossible. the palestinian people firmly believe this land as there is. this soil is there a soil. >> there is hope that the current agreement could lead to a broader piece across the region ushered in by president trump and his team but the new administration faces an uphill battle. shannon.
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>> reporter: trey yingst thank you. no to fox news correspondent lukas tomlinson covering the presidents trip out west. shannon, president's trump -- president trump's return to nevada one of the states he wanted a sweep in las vegas home to some of the largest hotels in the world for the president had a message for supporters in the service industry. he wants to scrap taxes on tips. >> we will have no tax on tips from now on. many of these workers are some of the citizens who were hit hard and very hard by the ravages of the biden economy which was inflation. >> reporter: before arriving in las vegas his first stop on his first trip since returning to the white house was north carolina to tour the communities ravaged by hurricane hailey and next visiting washington where the california governor -- los angeles where gavin newsom showed up for his or her arrival after touring the devastation by air and on ground he thanked first responders and later
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centum of local leaders including the l.a. mayor karen bass. they spread over homeowners beginning to repair damage and not waiting on government contractors which trump says could slow down recovery efforts. >> they are saying they will not be allowed to start for 18 months. >> that will not be the case. >> okay i just hope not. four groups said that. >> you can hold me to that. no. >> president donald trump: they should be able to start tonight. >> reporter: trump said he expects to sign a new executive order to overhaul fema are get rid of it entirely. the commander in chief also getting rid of 17 inspector generals including those at the pentagon and state department response split among party lines. >> sometimes inspector generals don't do the job they are supposed to do. some of them deserve to be fired. >> one more example lack of respect for law. we saw it earlier when
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president trump pardoned januar. now how is any of this going to lower grocery prices squeezed. >> after pete hegseth was sworn in as defence secretary many republicans want swifter confirmations beginning with trump spec to lead treasury department scott peasant and hearings for rfk jr. shannon. >> reporter: all right lukas tomlinson thank you very much pair joining us now arkansas senator tom patton a brand-new book out titled seven thanks you can say about china and senator we will see if we get any of those seven in this conversation we are deftly going to talk about china but i want to ask you about the reporting there from lukas of the firing of the inspector general. i refer from some of your colleagues who were concerned saying it didn't give the proper notification even if it ultimately would be, the notice wasn't there and as president trump signaled, he is just going to observe which ones he wants to and not others.
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>> shannon time and time again supreme court has said congress can't impose restrictions on the president's power to remove officers pair president trump's first term remove the director of the consumer finance protection bureau despite limitations on the president's constitutional power to remove officers litigated at this -- supreme court. ultimately these inspector generals to serve at the pleasure of the present appear he wants new people in there and he wants people focused on getting out waste and fraud and abuse and reforming these agencies. >> do you think he will? that's the next question because there are times win the ax was inspector general's lot has been left open by presidents. are you confident they will be filled? >> i believe so and he says he wants to fill his offices may be not immediately because there is an entire administration staff but i think the president's inherent power to remove officers we'll be uphill it's challenging as it has me time and time again for republican and democratic presidents alike. >> shannon: i would ask about
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the middle east. you've had concerns about the deal and it came together it seems and an approach from prison abide in entry on. are you confident in the deal moving forward on the fact there is progress forgetting these people home. >> of course we welcome these hostages and we can't help but be overjoyed. at the same time the general preference is to not negotiate with terrorists. hamas was on its back foot, they are almost destroyed. we didn't negotiate after hiroshima and egg iseki we said and conditional surrender and give us back our americans. that said a deal was underweight predicted the way hamas might break the deal and that's what happened yesterday. one reason why the israeli government paused the relocation of the people of gaza. i would say of hamas would continue the cease-fire they need to respect every single term of the deal. >> we are watching win it --
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minute-by-minute. i want to ask you for the hearings this week. you chair we'll know here from the dni nominee who's got plenty of critics out there from both sides of the aisle. let me read from the former chairman of the u.s. national intelligence commission writing she's got no background in intelligence whatsoever and never managed much of anything even more worryingly as someone meant to advise the president and protect our nation secrets from adversaries cozying up to at least two vicious dictators who are america's enemies. their concerns about her positions and her use of her tools and how she feels about them. are you confident you've had those questions adjust? >> yes i've had many questions to speak with her as have many members of committee and senators. we got her background check back last week and probably scheduled hearing seven days later as the rules allow for effect and promise you and all americans that she is going to have a full
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hearing thursday and it's going to be just like the hearing we conducted for john radcliffe and that the committee has committed for nominees democratic and republican presidents alike. no more no less no better or worse. i understand people have differences of opinion with her a probably some republicans disagree with the vote she is cast as a democratic congresswoman. a lot of democrats may be upset. i do hope though that we won't see annual questioning her patriotism. if hillary clinton has basically called her a traitor in the past this is a woman who served more than 20 years in our nation's army she is past five background checks are reviewed the latest one it is clean as it was all. it's fine for people to have policy differences and ask questions about them. i hope no one would question her patriotism are integrity. >> there are reports quoting a senator saying she might not even make it out of committee.
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other things about her conversations are positions in regard to putin that might raise concern for you? >> i think there are a lot of people making predictions that don't come true on a background if you recall pete hegseth was on the verge of being withdrawn. they feel like making similar predictions about donald trump the last few years and has no stage the greatest political comeback in american history. so again we will have a full and fair hearing where she will able to explain her past statements and i am sure also explain her views on certain policies or programs that she will execute the president's agenda and if confirmed she will give unbiased look at the intelligence that comes in every day. >> shannon: one of the threats you've been long vocal about his china. president trump seems to be willing to pause the ban on tech talk and work out a deal. there are different conversations and rumors about
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what might come together but he's indicated he might allow some level of chinese ownership are connection to this. and he gives this explanation to our colleague sean hannity about why. >> you can say that about every inch i know we have our telephones maid in china for the most part appear so many thanks maid in china so why don't they mentioned that we. >> you're thoughts? >> the law we passed last year and the law is the law any company that continues to host or distribute tiktok. the penalties were so high most medium-size countries couldn't pay them. and want to commend the companies like apple and google following the law and no longer hosting tiktok but our point in passing the law was never to bend tiktok in the u.s., it was to force the parent company controlled by chinese communists to divest from tiktok.
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having a tiktok that's not insolence by chinese communists. it's not just a threat to our privacy and data although it is certainly that, it's a threat because it spreads propaganda like pro hamas content and exposes children to extreme violence, obscenity, drug use even encouraging suicide and it can be used as an actual tool as you saw win congress passed a law in push notices to users phones urging them to contact congress and lobby against the law. what might they do if donald trump imposes tariffs on china or heighten tension around taiwan? that's why it's critical there be a complete and total break with communist china and that's what the law insists. as for a deal, i'm not really concerned about whether this american company are that group of investors by z or for that matter if we have partners in places like europe or the middle east or east asia forfeited if it's controlled by an ally that's very different
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than if controlled by communist china. >> shannon: two quick things before you go. this is the headline from "new york times" yesterday the cia supports a leak theories. >> that was their headline 2020 and the send a repeated fringe theory p or do you find some level of vindication? >> i've said from the beginning covid republican from that lab. i didn't have access to classified intelligence i just used common sense and looked at the facts and understood by chinese communists do. i'm glad the final days of the by demonstration and cia range -- reached the same conclusion. important thing now is we have to make china pay for what it's played on the world just like we have to make them pay for standing our jobs and having american workers and businesses by doing things like impose tariffs on them strategically critical goods are pass knowledge. >> very quickly before you go
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president trump has taken back the security detail for a number of people. "the wall street journal" all the editorial board said pray it won't happen but what if one of them now gets attacked? if iran commits violence against any of these men mr. trumbull be able to escape some responsibility. >> i would encourage the president to revisit that decision for those being targeted by iran as the president was targeted for assassination. as the chair i've reviewed in the last few days and the threat to anyone involved in presidents trumps strike is persistent and real and committed to vengeance against all these people in fact the chief of staff and director of national intelligence agree with me if these debts were against him are his family he would want security because threats are real and we don't know we don't know is better to be safe than sorry because it's not just about these men who help president trump its about
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their family and friends, innocent by standards and also about the president getting good people and good advice. if people are saying going to work for the president now on china or the mexican drug cartels that may hesitate to do so and they may hesitate an office ticket for him the advice they need she needs her carry out the policies he decides on. >> shannon: thank you sender we'll be watching for that hearing. up next to connecticut senato senator thank you for being with us today. i want to go back to the middle east story i know you've been in touch with the father of one of the american hostages who we don't know his status. do you know anymore about his condition or status are when he may be released? >> all we know is that today 33 hostages on the list we believe
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praying and working for the fulfillment of the cease-fire agreement. america should hold high most of the agreement and support israel and insist every single provision gets a bipartisan agreement to give president trump a lot of credit along with president biden and we need to keep our eye on the ball because this in the two normal expansion of the -- united front against the real adversary here which is iran. >> shannon: let me ask you about the presidential pardons. you got a couple thanks potentially a bill to introduce that would force the president to explain why and why and how they are doing this and even talking about offering constitutional amendment that would limit the president ability on the sentences. one case in particular that you
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know well you are connecticut attorney general win peeler was convicted on both state and federal charges and sent to prison p he was convicted in connection with the death of an 8-year-old boy and his mom they were witness to another shooting. it changed laws forever in connecticut and the fact adrian peel or is being described as a miscarriage of justice and outrageous. have you got any indication from anyone connected to the bond and the administration why that would have been? >> i've no explanation and the decision frankly was appalling to me a was attorney general of the state at the time adrian peeler was convicted of murdering an 8-year-old boy who's about to testify in a drug case it was a miscarriage of justice and frankly it was as appalling to me as pardons for 1500 drivers who assaulted causing serious injuries i think
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president trump was equally if not all of poland to me for for the play is there's been mistakes on both sides. democrat republican president these decisions are maid in the shadows they are a black box. nobody knows why that decision on adrian peeler was made and many of these pardon decisions really cry out for more accountability and transparency that's five introduced a bill -- why i've introduced a bill pardon transparency accountability act that would have guardrails and requiring justice impact statement notification of the victim and prosecutor so they can express their opinion and explanation required, disclosure of any lobbying that has occurred in connection with that pardon decision. as you know, that pardon power is absolute. it's one of those where powers
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that has no checks or balances. the founders incorporate it from the english monarchy and really to establish safeguards and guardrails we need constitutional memo. >> so to be clear none of the 1500 jay six people were charged with killing an officer. but so we are clear. there is also the issue of president biden's pardons on his family members minutes before the swearing in. jonathan writes about that and he says its because he fears the vary law a he invented. it worked at biden's benefit as the recipients are leslie to disclose any information to directly indicate president biden to the families allege quote paid to play ten% for the big guys schemes. democrats doing on the way out the door would your proposals either of them limit the president's ability to pardon family members?
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>> it would require the legislation i've offered that the president provide some explanation and semikind abil ability, some guardrails. but let's be very clear, i was critical 1 of those democrats who said to the president no preemptive pardons. they are not required and they violate the basic spirit of the pardon law. i think what we need in the legislation is greater transparency and accountability for the president so that congress has a roll. and like my state of connecticut there is a board of pardons and pearls that have specific criteria outside judgement and a kind of check and balance the constitution applies and other decisions. while we are on the topic of transparency, to add a note on the firing of inspectors general, senator cotton is
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absolutely right the president brought in power to fire officials in the executive branch but with respect to inspectors general there is a specific law requiring notice of 30 days and a statement of reasons substantive and detailed rationale and that law plainly has not been complied with here i challenge my republican colleagues many of them strong advocates of inspectors general and these watchdogs to speak out and join me in opposing these firings. elon musk ought to be also joining because he is against wasteful spending. >> which is often their assignment in these different agencies p he mentioned the senator saying there might be good reason and he wants for the explanation.
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he said regardless the 30 day detailed notice was not provided to congress. .doc 2 other folks this sunlight they have concerns as well but are you confident in your colleagues? this caucus is brand-new that you guys have. >> we form this caucus because they do controversial work. they say and blow the whistle win there has been abuse or waste. they are the bulwarks against that kind of wasteful spending and that's the reason why our bipartisan caucus will and must provide stronger support and disappointed in republicans and so far that they haven't spoken of. many of these inspectors general have been very critical of democratic administrations. and the ranking member on the affairs team and very critical
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of the number of decisions under biden administration. the report those very critical of a number of decisions under democratic and administration they are a bipartisan, independent and we need to preserve that support. i challenge my republican colleagues and the president to reverse this decision. >> shannon: be a fast the white house for more comments so we will see what we get. senator thank you for making the time to come in. resident trump wasting no time issuing is echoed of orders aimed at shutting down the flow of illegal migrants into the country including sending troops to the border and an effort to end birthright citizenship but want to the courts have to say about this? our legal panel on the bottle ahead next. -- battle (♪) the retirement you've always imagined,
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the law is clear that harboring illegal aliens, smuggling illegal aliens, obstructing law enforcement, obstructing a legal proceeding and conspiracy to violate the rights of americans all of these and more are criminal statutes. so if there are incidents occur for a public official or an elected individual engages in violations of those criminal statutes then i fully expect the department of justice to follow the letter of the law. >> the white house deputy chief of staff doubling down on administrations week 1 crackdowns on century cities and states as the president's to end birthright citizenship sparked a
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debate. let's bring in our -- legal panel to break it down george washington university of law jonathan turley and former principal attorney general welcome. >> thank you. >> thanks. >> shannon: let's start here we've got these operations going on immigration and deportation in the country and a number of cities and states are saying we are not going to cooperate. several state attorneys general say the u.s. constitution prevents enforcing federal laws. how do you see this play? is there a common during or don't resist or block our federal efforts? who is in the right? >> let's see it's certainly true under our constitution the federal government cannot commandeer or conscript state officials into serving state policies but at the same time state officials for its federal immigration policy including
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law enforcement. you can have a universe in which the federal government is attempting to enforce the laws of the united states including the immigration laws. you have state or local officials taking every step to undermine the activity to through our federal policy and prevent effective invitation of federal law. i thing the constitution is pretty clear. i haven't seen anything in the new slate of his circuit of orders that suggests the administration is overstepping that constitutional line by trying to commandeer her or conscript state officials and to service. >> you for this language from in this week saying there are laws against harboring illegal immigrants and those things. the doj can pursue potential possibilities against state or local officials. i don't know what it means actual prosecutions but there is also language about cutting off federal funding. what potential dangers could these leaders legally face and a
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century city? >> there is nothing in the constitution that requires the federal government to fund its own demise. you don't have to give these states money. if it's being used to undermine federal policy. the key here is there's got to be a strong nexus and it has to be limited. if you deny all federal funds to a city are state it vary well can trigger the entity come a daring doctrines. you have to be focused and you have to have that nexus to say look you're not going to get justice department funds win you're interfering with the justice department enforcing federal laws peer there's a lot of funding within those parameters i think they can use. in terms of officials who were actively use of birding efforts, yeah, they can cross the line as well a gets often very difficult line for courts to define but there is peril here for state
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officials both in terms of budgets and in terms of their individual actions and everyone is going to have to be very careful to stay within the navigational beacons of their authority. >> so birthright citizenship is another thing president trump said he was going to try and make up this executive order seeing you don't have automatic citizenship simply by being born here. here's what the 15th amendment said. all persons born or naturalized in the essence subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the united states and of the state wherein they reside. sounding very bullish on their chance to win numerous lawsuits they say we will not let this attack on newborns go unchallenged. the jump and ministrations overreach is so egregious we are confident will ultimately prevail. >> i don't think they're going to meet with a whole lot of success in the lower corporate it's been a fairly well settled
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law for longtime birthright citizenship is encompassed within the 14th of them in. but you're right it will ultimately be the decider in this issue, of the supreme court. i think the trap administrations argument we'll have to be that things have changed. that yes back when the 14th amendment was enacted there was an understanding that if you were illegal aliens in this country and had a child it was entitled to birthright citizenship but the urgent would now have to go that things have changed in that we are under an invasion and that the rules of the game have changed and just as win the 14th amendment was passed people would not expect birthright citizenship to say children born to soldiers who had invaded the united states shouldn't be extended in this circumstance. my personal view is its a fairly bold and audacious argument they've already encountered pushback from lower federal judges but at the end of the day united states supreme court will sort out whether or not the 14th amendment still means what we've always thought it meant. >> so is there a victory in the courts for jump administration are will this be amending the
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constitution if you want to change how the 14th amendment has been understood for the most part until now? >> i think the initial argument might be different in the sense you have an amendment that has clarity on both ends that if you are born in this country, you are a citizen but in the middle or the 6 maddening words people have debated over since it was first enacted or ratified and i think members of the supreme court may want to look at them. win the 14th amendment was drafted,'s individuals, some members of congress said they believed it did not extend a thread citizenship. that's really fueled a lot of this debate. as tom says the law itself it's been fairly stable since then but it hasn't had a lot of treatment by the supreme court. the supreme court could adopt different interpretation but the jump administration may when
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either way a pair that's if they lose in the courts this is going to be playing out right before the midterm elections. most citizens do not approve of birthright citizenship we are in the minority of countries recognizing birthright citizenship and that may be watching ministrations looking for a they could start a constitutional amendment campaign and this is an issue they might invite. >> sometimes the legal loss is political as a person trump can attest he is now present again. jonathan anton thank you always good to see you guys. up next president trump says the days of fema may be numbered as he tore his disaster zones across the country. our panel weighs in on the fate of that and a slew of presidential action in week 1 bc-mac it's about time that they were recognized.
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there are no bad decisions when it comes to my new chicken fajita and caesar jack wraps. two new flavors for $3.29 each. unless you don't get one. that would be a bad decision. get my jack wraps or try my tasty munchies under $4. at jack, every bite's a big deal! welcome to jack in the box! i'm not saying they are not changes needed we need a lot of changes the past 4 years to try to remove some bureaucracy and made great strides in that peer there's always room for improvement. fema has been a big disappointment if they cost a tremendous amount of money is very bureaucratic and very slow.
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other than that we're very happy with them okay? >> shannon: the fema administrator said present -- and president trump different takes on the sticks of the agency let's take a tour of some degree. wall street reporter amy linsky karen roberts forbes conjoining writer and fox news contributor richard fowler and former constitutional law professor we could use you in the last panel as well but maybe we'll get your legal insight let's start with this fema situation because there is a report there will be in executive order at last check it is not up but we haven't heard anything official. they say a group will be establishes members we'll include members of home end security and defense in addition to subject matter experts they say they will issue a report person trump on how the response agency currently functions and ultimately recommend changes which could include reornizing or getting rid of fema peer kevin what happens with disaster
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relief if fema went away? >> if fema goes away disaster relief becomes more efficient essay that is someone who grew up in the gulf coast. i remember hurricane andrew 1982 all of us waiting for the power to come back and supplies to arrive. the only thing that could provide those things were local people. fema is a microcosm which is bloated and bureaucratic it's an efficient and it's outdated and i applaud president trump for doing this on behalf of disaster relief for every day americans. >> use of the gulf coast i also grew up there. gulf of america now? >> it is. 10 inches of snow in my hometown it's hard to believe. >> i know my floridians are covered in snow i've got pictures to prove it. richard as i usually cure had you don't agree getting rid of it would make things better. >> a couple things, is a lender back them. i was living -- living in barbour county.
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>> our member it too but i was a grown up. >> and look i think what we know from natural disasters in this country is that the response happens correctly it's win state and federal and local governments are working together. the job of fema is to empower and embolden local and state officials to do jobs better. we can all acknowledge there is been mistakes made by fema whether it was katrina and others so i do think this committee is the right way to go about the idea to abolish a federal agency that's had success in getting thanks right and doing thanks right and deliver resources is important. chi also think when you have politics of -- that's the thing that breaks my her in these situations win you see members of congress try to attach voter i.d. or this are that to natural disaster relief for people who are in need especially talking about california with many states going to this. and they've contributed so much to the federal general fund they
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say listen we just need some of what we put in back. chi think no more than ever we can say to get rid of it and i think it's the wrong way to go. >> speaking of politics, president trump visited north carolina. there was not a plan for kevin newsome. he had a plan to be there he was on the tarmac. the "los angeles times" said he was of a collection of l.a. democrats who welcomed trump with wildfires raging across the county working peacefully with the president might boost their political standing. it feels like a 180 think california your political standing boosted by hanging it with president tripp does trump something has changed. >> that's right. and to thank government -- governor newsome was great showing up in greeting air force one and typically governors do that win the president's plane lands. and i think there's more than meets the eye to the relationship between them they've certainly been at larger
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heads and she did each other like punching bags peer they also worked together on fires previously. they have a history together and they are both showman and they both know how to get headlines but they know how to work together. >> shannon: i keep using friend and enemies as a term for them peer "politico" quoting a strategist essay most of the 20th stripped -- century california was entirely republican. on the list of thanks he could list to not be vengeful is the possibility he could help a shift in the balance or is california going to turn red? >> a lot of america is turning red. after an november what we saw was a genetic shift in this country appear county after county was more red in 2024 than in 2020. but fema, if you have fema's
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record its going to be very difficult to survive the threat of dissolution. he can have emails where you say i went to this house and headed trump's own so we went on past in my case in 2021 we had a record winter storm in texas. it was 2022 that we get reached out to buy fema to ask us if we needed any help your that was a long-time leader. the record of fema is in good. and if they continue the record that they have their heading for dissolution quickly. >> 1 of the other executive orders was about releasing information on various assassinations. rfk jfk he said their families and american people deserve transparency and truth. he citizen natural -- natural interest to release without
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delay. there is a bit of a process going through documentation. >> i am a historian by training and from that perspective of just an observer there is no politics in this peer at the american people realize they want to get to the bottom of this and it's also what's driving a lot of americans especially young people in the so-called new right to try to figure what's going on with aliens in outer space. it seems to this middle-aged guy a bit of an esoteric interest that's the alien thing. it's not esoteric to understand why very important americans were assassinated but also importantly why did the federal government including some senior people in the previous republican administration block them from being released? this is the kind of thing donald trump is doing to bring the everyday american interest to washington, d.c.,. >> shannon: richard you shaking your head cocked leave there is agreement pair. >> i agree i think it's important the american people get to see especially since what
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happened in the assassination of martin luther king jr. we know there is intelligent against martin luther king and the fbi was going after him because he fought for civil rights and human rights and what we call today diversity, equity, and inclusion. and i think when the records are released hopefully it's a time to realize for the country many of the thanks he fought for a good thing the current administration is fighting against peer case in .1965 executive order trump overturned something dr. king advocated for. it's important these documents get released and hopefully it's a regulation -- recollection of what the country needs to do. >> shannon: the country is bracing for what we might find out. dunkel for because silicon valley is cozying up to president trump. the who's who of tech giants where there turned out at the inauguration president trump said it's time to secure america's place as the world's ai leader but there are some blood pearson clashing tech more on that next. ♪ ♪
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over is some communities don't want data centers or chip 5 facilities are new powerplants and some of the due. to the united states is a gigantic -- gigantic country and they'll be plenty of room to do this. >> shannon: that was sam allman talking to me last year for the need of data centers to help artificial intelligence technology. he was at the white house as the president rolled out the plan to meet the need in the u.s. peer we are back with our panel. horus was almost immediately answered by elon musk saying they don't have the money for it. trump's best friend and no 1 else intrudes. >> the president says the 2 men don't like each other and the thing i am most excited about is the importance of new energy
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generation centers whether we are talking factory are upon and we need to deploy efforts. whether it is in alaska or on the eye was extended they will bring in these forces that will likely follow with an energy development. >> shannon: it was partisan -- part of this physical -- visual we got this week all week all the top silicone valley guys showing up. apiece wrote it's a spectacle to see a new power flock to washington fight for trump's support character throw money at him crack 8 figure mentions around town peer if this is not what we've seen in the past at least during g.o.p. administration. >> that's true. it's a new power plant coming to town. these are group of people if your first 5 or 6 years many of them were very opposed to
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donald trump. [laughter] so, you know, they have some making up to do with the president and have been very quick to do the peer -- do so. i also thought the announcement showed a significant shift from biden to trump. biden was very cautious and scared of ai and was putting up guardrails around the technology peer trump's viewing as an opportunity and that's what many of the people surrounding him, not all, altmahas had a disagreement but seeing as an opportunity and a way to get a contact -- the country in a place where they can compete with the chinese who are also seeing as an opportunity. >> shannon: president trump doesn't want to fall behind them that's 1 of the driving forces of getting ai and the power force needed.
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c bannon says i've never seen action like this and my life about musk stepping on the announcement and he said he also called on the white house chief of staff and it seems like there's musk going on various issues. >> hear any great camping and i think these are growing pains of the -- for this lifelong movement conservative it's great to see all these men and women who politely opposed trump the last time come-around. it remains to be seen if the skepticism that i might have about a few of them such as jeff b's o's and others we'll of course be legitimate but ultimately i applaud trump for doing this. as a release to artificial intelligence balancing the need for american innovation with the common good because chief of
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staff susie wiles could bring this home and keep everyone on preservation but i'm optimistic. >> what do you think richard? >> at there are couple thanks in the news is used into art and duration you saw in the second row to governors or people elected by the people of your they were allowed in. it causes pause for a lot of americans. i think when you think the first agenda. this ai to happen it will require foreign resources spiritual biden's last trip in december was to angola a degenerate aip if it's a
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stalemate in terms plan to create this generate -- ai power that's necessary. so for the trump team how do you create ai without a foreign policy to focus on investing in other countries that have raw materials to make it possible. >> buy creating energy in our own country. >> we are the most abundant natural resource -- >> but we need copper which is critical for ai and the firms that don't have it. >> president trump is a wheeler dealer who will find a way to get his hands on what american youth but the center of the conversation sure we'll see how it materializes and whether the robots take over. okay panel. thank you very much see you next time. up next or previous my conversation with a young pastor is a favorite of gen z not a --
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