panel. let's go down the line again. we have micah, liliana and josiah. thank you for joining us today on like it or not. did you have fun? >> yes. >> coming to ktvu. like it or not like it. okay. good shoe. all right. thanks so much. you guys have a great rest of your school year. i appreciate your joining me today here on like it or not we will have to do it again and thank you at home for watching. this has been fun. for once i'm the tallest in the room and i'm not >> i'm anna garcia right now on true crime news. a married army veteran is reported missing, but not by his wife. she says he left after an argument. his brother and sister aren't buying it, and all signs point to foul play. >> they have a lengthy list of reasons as to why they believe he is deceased. >> a burner phone, fake text messages and allegations of embezzlement. >> she pocketed $32,434.

>> but where is shannon collins? plus, jason derek brown was a mormon with a master's degree, but was he really the devil in disguise? cops say he executed a security guard in a deadly ambush and disappeared with almost $60,000. nearly 15 years on the fbi's ten most wanted list. thousands of tips. >> we went. >> over 14 15,000 tips searching for. >> him, and not one. >> was ever confirmed to be him. >> and he's still on the run. can you help catch this fugitive? thanks for joining us. u.s. army veteran shannon collins hadn't been seen or heard from for months before his brother reported him missing. his family says that shannon's wife, teresa, told them that he was traveling, and for a while, everyone believed her. well, not anymore. >> i think everyone thought there was nothing wrong. >> by all accounts, shannon

collins was living a normal life in pottsville, arkansas, working as a delivery man. after being medically discharged from the national guard with his wife teresa, son josh and stepdaughter brittany, they appeared to be the typical american family. >> he was a big family man. he always wanted to make sure everybody was happy. >> but appearances can be deceiving. shannon was secretly having an affair and his brother blake knew all about it. >> shannon told his brother that the marriage had been over for some time. he had been seeing somebody else and that once his son finished college, they would split ways. he had actually seen that woman shortly before he returned home. >> according to blake, shannon spent lots of time on the road doing deliveries, but he'd often call and check in. >> he started doing deliveries just to sort of make life easier for his family with, you know, money, because he spent a lot of time on the road driving with deliveries. he would call him, he would call their parents, and

they would spend a lot of time speaking on the phone rather than text. >> when several months pass and blake doesn't hear from shannon by phone or text, he reached out to his wife, teresa. >> she tried to explain it away by saying shannon had walked away from the home, that he was texting them, but they hadn't spoken to him on the phone. >> blake's not buying it. after nine months passed with no word from his brother, blake drives from texas to arkansas to file a missing persons report with the pottsville police. >> he had to physically go to the police station to report him missing with all of the details. and also, i don't think the family initially thought that anything was too awry. >> but police questioned teresa about shannon. >> he tells law enforcement that the last time she saw him was when he returned home from tennessee, from making a delivery, and that essentially he walked away from the property. and that was the last time she had seen him.

>> but their daughter, brittany has a different recollection. >> her daughter then told investigators that she saw him get into a vehicle with an unknown driver. >> teresa also informs police that shannon has been texting her and the family from a different cell phone number. >> brittany, during the police interview, also said that she had spoken to him via facetime several times, and nobody else was able to say that they'd spoken to him by anything other than text. >> despite the conflicting stories, local police don't have enough evidence to move forward, but that doesn't stop blake from continuing to dig. blake learns the whole time that shannon's been gone. his veteran disability checks were being cashed by teresa. >> she pocketed $32,434, and they were getting around 3000 every month because the department of veterans weren't aware that shannon had gone missing or was not able to bank

the funds himself. >> blake alerts the department of veteran affairs, and they immediately put a stop to any further payments. >> she never tried to stop those payments, and she was spending, you know, the money as well on various things. >> teresa and her daughter brittany are now in the crosshairs of the u.s. department of veteran affairs. their investigators discovered that the day after shannon was last seen, teresa contacted the cell service in an attempt to unlock his phone, but they wouldn't allow it. the next day, teresa used cash to purchase a burner phone from walmart, the same phone shannon allegedly used to contact the family. investigators believe teresa used the phone posing as shannon, texting herself and others on several different occasions. >> she then sent a message to her son saying that he was in a va program, and also sent messages purporting to be shannon, saying that he didn't need to access the joint accounts. he trusted her to spend the money wisely, and that

also he could potentially be gone for two years and maybe longer to work overseas as a contractor. >> when authorities tried to interview, teresa and brittany again, both refused to talk and retained counsel. >> so it's clear what the investigators believe happened. >> for now, a u.s. grand jury has indicted teresa and brittany collins, but not for shannon's disappearance. the two faced charges for defrauding the department of veterans, aiding and abetting wire fraud and embezzlement. neither teresa or brittany face charges in shannon's disappearance, but investigators are still looking for more clues. >> it's difficult, i think, to bring a conviction when someone is missing or there's no body, but they have a fairly lengthy list of reasons as to why they believe he is deceased. >> five long years have passed since shannon collins went missing. his car still sits in the driveway of his home. the odds are not good that he'll ever be seen again, or that police suspicion alone will solve the case.

>> they just can't say exactly the circumstances surrounding where shannon is or what happened to him. >> anyone with information on collins's whereabouts is asked to contact the polk county sheriff's office at (479) 968-2558. you can also call our tip line at (888) 845-7555. coming up, he may look like a harmless california surfer dude, but he's wanted for being a cold blooded killer in a deadly armored car heist. >> it's such. >> a disturbing image. >> to see your brother on that table, and yet you can't even move t sheet because they don't want you to see. >> that's next. >> long after. guests leave. viruses and bacteria linger. air fresheners add a scent, but only. >> lysol air sanitizer helps erase the trace, eliminating odor and killing 99.9% of viruses and bacteria in the air. scent can't sanitize lysol can.

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jason derek brown may look like a harmless california surfer, but he's accused of ambushing a security guard in an execution style murder. and despite having been one of the fbi's most wanted fugitives for years, he's still on the run. and authorities need your help bringing him to justice. >> the armored car guy is here. the guy has been shot at least six times. >> on a cool november arizona day. robert keith palomares was

cut down in front of this movie theater in phoenix. the killer demanded money. >> he didn't warn my brother. didn't even say a word. just within the blink of an eye, he executed. shot my brother three times. and as my brother laid on the floor, bleeding out, the guy still shot him more times. who does that? >> oh, man. we got to get an ambulance here. he's dying. >> robert worked for an armored car company, hoping to become a police officer. he collected money from many businesses along his route. >> he knew what he was doing. he was trained very well. he stayed focused. he didn't take it lightly. he didn't take it as a joke. he loved his job. >> the cowardly killer fled on a bike stashed in an alley next to the theater, shooting robert six

times for a mere $56,000. the execution went down in broad daylight, shoppers and motorists just yards away. >> this was definitely. >> an ambush execution. there was no doubt in our minds at that point that this was something other than just a typical robbery. if there is one. >> it's such a disturbing image to see your brother on that table, and yet you can't even move the sheet because they don't want you to see the parts of his face that are missing. who does that? >> the first step to answering that question was a mad hunt for the bike, soon discovered dumped in a bush not far from the crime scene. >> if we didn't find that bike and we didn't find a fingerprint or dna on that bike, we would be spinning our wheels at this point. >> that fingerprint on the getaway bike leads cops to their

main suspect, a man named jason brown. cops quickly determined that jason grew up in a mormon family in southern california and did his mormon mission in france, but it seems he left the church and started living life in a much faster lane. >> around the neighborhood. >> everybody had the same opinion about jason. very likable. nothing wrong with. >> him with surfer dude looks and attitude, jason chose partying over piety and had all the toys to live large a bmw, an escalade, atvs. but there was one small problem. investigators say this high roller was living a lie. >> well. >> none of them were fully bought. they were all bank fraud. it was con to con people don't graduate from bank fraud to assassinating an armored car guard. i mean, that's almost unheard of. >> what in the world would take a man from petty cons to being wanted for murder in the first

degree? agent leason has a simple explanation. pressure and selfish greed. >> are you sick of couch surfing? living from couch to couch, friend to friend, not having a firm place. he was obviously frustrated with creditors. they were looking for his toys, his jeep, his escalade, his motorcycle, his atvs, his jet skis. i mean, they wanted it all. and he was sick of dodging. >> so according to leason, jason brown set out to fix his problems with a 45 caliber adjustment. his plan focused on the movie theater, an armored car, and thanksgiving weekend. >> he brought it up to friends. he brought it up in a way that a lot of the friends thought he was joking, you know, chalked it up to jason's drunk and just talking. jason would say something to the effect of, hey, have you ever thought of robbing an armored car? >> coming up, cops pieced together the clues and locate jason's c. but where s the

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college to see his first nephew. my kids don't have an uncle. my mom lost all hope. the family split up. he was the glue. >> police say jason brown was living the high life on low level cons. but his lifestyle had careened out of control. >> he wanted to buy the rounds. he wanted to be everybody's friend, and he just didn't have the money to do that. >> did he set out to fix his money? issues with deadly violence. as investigators searched for jason brown, they started connecting dots. >> he bought a concealed carry permit and got training in how to use a firearm. he purchased high velocity rounds that would do the most damage. >> and he trained with it in the desert near phoenix, then conducted surveillance from his car. >> he was doing surveillance on the armored cars. they were doing their daily deliveries. >> cops discovered the evidence by tracking jason's expenditures. >> receipts from restaurants that he had eaten at right in front of the amc movie theater

just days prior to the homicide. so he had spent all his time around them. >> but when police tracked brown to this hotel in phoenix, he had already skipped town for a while. he slipped off the grid. then the fbi learned he might be back in california, where he had family, perhaps hiding out. warrant in hand, they planned to raid his sister's house, hoping to cuff the man who seemed impossible to catch. >> literally two hours or so before we made contact at the sister's house, he gets word that there was a warrant issued for his arrest here in arizona. here's that. he breaks his phone. he throws some clothes into his cadillac escalade. he rips out the onstar tracking ability in the escalade, says goodbye to his sister, and he leaves. he went south. i went to a gas station, filled up, and then immediately went south towards the mexican border. then he pulled a pulled a crazy one on us and turned around and went north. next we have him is moving north through california and into oregon and ultimately in portland. his vehicle is

found in the portland international airport parking lot. we checked every record of every flight that we could, anything in his name or any alias that we knew of again. hours of surveillance video and nothing that would show that he got on a plane. >> the fbi estimated there were something in the order of 800 to 1000 tips related to jason derek brown each year since. >> we went over 14, 15,000 tips in the fbi searching for him, and not one was ever confirmed to be him, several look alikes were detained temporarily in order to see if it was him or not. it never was. >> now retired fbi agent lance lysing tells true crime news that the harsh reality is investigators have no idea where he is to this very day. >> it didn't. >> help us that he looks like an penn and any surfer in california, and his name is jason brown. that doesn't help. it's about one of the most common names in the book, right? >> the case has gone so cold that jason brown was removed

from the fbi's most wanted list to make room for more pressing cases. >> it doesn't mean the case is closed. the case still remains open. both the local investigation, as well as the fbi's fugitive aspect of the investigation, remains open. the fbi and local jurisdictions will still run down all tips and leads that are called in. and we're still looking for him. it's just he's not, at this point, considered at the level of other top ten fugitives. essentially, the list is not as effective for jason now as it may have been in the past. >> jason brown could be living halfway around the world from here, or possibly still in america, living right next door to you. lance lysing has his own theory. after working the case for years. >> i think it's much more likely that jason committed suicide. he made comments to friends and family members about suicide. he would talk about how he'd rather die than ever be arrested. he was trying to present himself as very wealthy and very rich, but really, he had no money and all

of that was crashing in around him. we have fbi legal attache offices in about 60 countries around the world. those offices are busy with jason brown tips, and we send them to him all the time. some countries more than others, but we get them all around. >> some leads have the accused killer on the run closer to home, returning to his mormon roots. >> he still knows the mormon church well. he can still talk. that talk flow within that community, understand the services, and understand the charitable work that the mormon church does. >> if jason brown is still alive. forensic technology has shown what he may look like today, but that and a $200,000 reward has so far only led to a dead end. still, robert palomares family pleads for help. >> i asked those that are watching, please help. help me.d justice. this guy is out there. he could be your neighbor. he

could be that guy living at the park. he could be that new guy who joined your church. you just don't know. >> if you have any information that might lead to jason derek brown's arrest, please contact the fbi at (623) 466-1999 or call the true crime news tip line at (888) 845-7555. we'll be right back. >> hi, grandma. i played baseball today. oh. that's great. >> what position did. >> you play? >> first base. that's what grandpa used to play when our hearing wouldn't allow us to use a regular phone. it made us feel isolated. >> it became difficult to communicate. >> with our friends and family. >> clear captions was an easy solution for us. >> clear captions provides. captions on a phone. >> like captioning on your tv. >> so you can see what the caller is saying. live as they

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>> on the next true crime news, the tik tok killer. a master impressionist. >> i felt like i was on the passenger seat of my own body. >> with a million followers whose jealousy triggered a double murder. >> yes, ma'am. >> my wife and another man were on that. >> i found them dead on the couch. >> okay. >> steph i. >> secret recordings. a shocking confession and his outrageous

courtroom outburst. >> i've never seen that in a discovery. i've been incarcerated three years. you never showed that to my team. where did you get that? >> on the next true crime news. for the latest breaking crime news, go to true crime news.com. watch more exclusive content on our youtube channel, listen to our podcast and follow us at my true crime news. that's it for today's true crime news i'm anna - so what do you think happened that night? - they go in a fight, she left. when her purse is found, it has cash, it has credit cards. - [nancy] a young mother is reported missing after a suspicious chain of events. - there was a man's footprint that was on the floorboard of that vehicle. - [nancy] an unlikely eyewitness. - he was three years old at the time. the details were wildly inconsistent. - [nancy] a marriage on the rocks. - there were members of the family said, "oh yeah, that's possible. maybe she just left." - [nancy] and buried secrets.