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places where they set up camp or had possessions taken by city workers. the sweeps started in march. city workers and police cleared the items in front of the downtown shelters. michael hancock has defended the move and said the city made the move because of unsafe and unsanitary conditions. >> they took my sleeping bag and most of my clothes. i do wood carving. this is what i do for a living. my tools got taken. >> what haen property seized from them and destroyed in violation of the fourth amendment. >> those rights have been around since before the revolution. if we start letting those rights be violated, then we as a country are finished. >> that was the attorney for the group. he is seeking class action status. the court is expected to decide
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very few homeless people have returned to collect what was taken. much cooler today across the metro area. a little damp out there as well. we are starting to dry out. it will get much nicer as we had pheasant to the weekend. >> a big warm-up on the way. today was chilly. we were thinking highs would be in the 50s. we have not quite gotten there yet. the big reason is the clouds. we had this up sloping pushing the air against the mountains. when that happens, it causes the air to rise. and a lot of times, we get stuff like this. the low-lying clouds over boulder and denver. the other thing we have going against us now -- and is helping to keep the clouds around, is the temperature version -- version. where higher elevations like the foothills to the mountains, are a good 10-20 degrees warmer
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right now we have mostly cloudy skies. you see that over the denver metro area. visibility is good. a little more in the way of fog around broomfield where visibility is five miles. we do have visibility on the eastern plains. we have a little dish we had a little bit of drizzle this morning. it has built -- still been cloudy and humid across the front range. we are seeing where the clouds are on this map. denver, 44. fort collins, and we do have a cold spot here. steamboat springs, 61. so many mountain areas were at least 20 degrees warmer then we were here in denver today. that is going to be changing over the next couple of days. overnight tonight, these clouds will be
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wind shifting to the west, southwest. that will help push the clouds out. temperatures will be at about 47 degrees at 7:00. we may warm into the low 50s 8:00. overall, it is going to be a fairly chilly evening. coming up tomorrow, 60s and 70s back in the forecast for locations like denver. from there on out, we get even warmer. we will talk about that forecast. that includes 80-degree temperatures -- coming appear in just a few minutes. >> back and forth. >> if you are all about the sweaters and the cooler weather, hopefully you soaked in every minute of today. >> that will change quickly. and boulder county is putting support behind the fight to stop construction at the dakota access pipeline. the board of county commissioners passed a resolution tuesday opposing the project and lending support to the tribe. tribal leaders have been fighting for months to stop construction because of concerns about water supply and cultural artifacts.
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august. more than 100 have been arrested including actress woodley and green party candidate jill stein. hillary clinton laid out plans for infrastructure and improvements to things like roads and transportation. she also addressed the public and presidential candidate donald trump. clinton went after his failure to release tax returns. >> we are going to make it ib and infrastructure. we need to fix our roads, our bridges, our tunnels and our airports. [ cheering ] and we need to make sure that the rich pay their fair share. here is what we have learned. donald trump hasn't paid a penny and federal income tax in years. this is all allegedly because -- of course we don't know for sure because he won't release
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but it is allegedly because he lost a billion dollars running casinos. >> former secretary of state madeleine albright is campaigning for clinton. after announcing the shackles or off, donald trump gave us some insight into what that means on the campaign trail in florida. trump went after republican leader h said he can no longer campaign for trump but also would not campaign against him following sunday's debate. in the video, donald trump making comments about the sex assault. he accused the former secretary of state about corruption and doubledealing. >> she wants total amnesty. i will tell you what, folks. this is the last time you'll ever have a chance to save our
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already the republican nominee has a massive disadvantage. and especially when you have the leaders not putting there weight behind the people -- the weight behind the people. instead of calling me and saying congratulations, you did a great job and you absolutely destroyed her at the debate -- >> donald trump is going to panama city to campaign people in florida are getting more time to register to vote. the federal judge has extended the deadline because of hurricane matthew. democrats had asked republican governor rick scott to extend the deadline before the storm hit. he turned down the request thing people had enough time to register. a spokeswoman for scott says they respect the decision and people
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to get registration done. early voting underway in ohio today. this is a polling place in cleveland. you can see it is a busy one. all -- and in-state poultice for ohio -- has hillary clinton leading donald trump 43%-34%. the polls also found most voters are unhappy with both candidates. nine states will experience what has been like for voters in colorado. five states will vote to decide whether to legalize marijuana for personal use. four others could join half the country to allow arizona, california, nevada, massachusetts and maine are deciding whether to legalize pot just like colorado, there are fears it could spark more illegal use. those who support legalization say regulations will prevent illegal use. a lot of people however agree that if california approves pot sales, this could be a game changer for the entire country. >> it might be passed along to children. it might be more potent than originally believed.
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do have quality control. you do have advertising limitations. >> florida, arkansas, north dakota and montana are voting whether to decide to approve medical marijuana. a poll from august on that one in eight u.s. adults say they smoke marijuana. that is about double the percentage that reported smoking three years earlier. we have all heard of all- day kindergarten and the benefits of that. how about free full-day preschool westminster public schools is trying a three-year pilot program to support families and get kids ready for kindergarten. 9news reporter nelson garcia says the district wants to improve learning for at risk kids from low income families. >> this block is heavier than this block. >> when you run a full day preschool classroom, it makes sense that your name is lawless. >> isn't that great we have to do a lot of rules.
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>> they are also getting a lot more time for academic work, for teaching them language. >> which one is smaller? >> the westminster school district started a pilot program. >> what can we use to make a steering wheel. >> paying for seven full-day classrooms. district leaders believe that the simple factor of time will make a big difference. >> the teachers, the more time in school -- will show better outcomes when the kids hit kindergarten. >> and beyond. >> in the long run, you will see better test scores through 3rd grade and see less dropout. >> it is exciting to be on the cutting edge of trying something new. >> when i only had them for three hours a day, i was not able to be as consistent. >> she says the kids do get tired and they nap. it also helps families with employment. >> and if, as a byproduct, it
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we are accomplishing two means with this program. >> in a classroom that is truly lawless, when it comes to preschool. >> all of the factors, if you start young and you start training them young, it makes a huge difference in the future. >> in westminster, nelson garcia, 9news. >> the three-year pilot program was made possible grants from the erie community, investments and the walton fund. we want to know what you think about full-day preschool. go to we will reveal the life results coming up in a few minutes. the mining history in colorado is a big part of the culture. but it also left behind a lot of things that need to be fixed. in some counties, work is underway to restore a slight -- a stretch of the swan river buried by dredge mining. for a century, the river has flowed underground buried by rocks. we are hearing the rocks are now gone. for the first time in a long time, the swan river is seeing
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breckenridge -- >> we are at the swan river. >> trails and resource specialists -- they are doing what people love. >> working at a restoration project. >> helping to take a mile-long stretch of river -- once damaged by dredge minors 100 years ago and transforming it back to what it looked like for all of that mining. been here previously for the valley was dredged and filled. >> piles of rock just left behind have been removed leaving an open valley with a winding river that was at one time buried under tons of rock. >> it really is like a subsurface stream. we had to dig into it and find the stream. >> all this work is to fix all of that work that the minors did in the past while also
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rocks from dredging are being crushed up and used as the base for new roads. >> the majority is road based. >> some have teamed up to pay the $4.4 million to restore the valley. which has been seeded with vegetation and is already starting to see fish return to this wants dead stream. >> we have seen a couple here already. >> one reason they are so excited about restoring the swan river. >> these are the kind of projects you get excited about. >> he says it is not only fixing the past but protecting the future. >> it is really important for the future. we want to restore and protect. >> and while the site looks better then it did before, it will be closed for the next few years well more vegetation is added and a trail is added so
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along the swan river trumpet let's get your thoughts about all day preschool. the first choice, yes, it is a great idea. or no, it is too long of a day for kids. or should it be optional ex-73 % are saying that it is a good idea. 27% say that it is too long of a day. and nobody is saying that they don't have an opinion. >> the numbers keep changing. it is overwhelmingly, yes. a great idea. >> i k have the option to be at home with a parent or a caregiver or have any kind of a hands-on learning experience, it is great. so that is wonderful. maybe part-time preschool. but if you are really getting ready for kindergarten and they don't necessarily have all of those great options for parents that need that option, maybe that would be great for them. >> absolutely. >> she is a mom. she knows best. >> i cannot weigh in on this
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long time. kindergarten is what our 1st grade was. i believe that. they get them going. >> they learn a lot in the process. >> it is crazy what they are teaching them now. the kids hit the ground running . >> good stuff. start them early. teams for the u.s. are in haiti right now trying to stop an outbreak. >> and the fame is not over yet for perhaps the biggest winner of sunday's presidential debate. trimming as we go to break,
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a plane crash in connecticut appears to be io it went down yesterday on a busy road near the headquarters of a military jet engine maker in east hartford. one person was killed and another badly burned. investigators say it appears the pilot tried to take his own life. a flight instructor described the student pilot to investigators as disgruntled about the difficulties of learning to become a pilot. the official says the instructor told police there was an altercation in the cockpit during the training flight. the instructor was unable to gain control of the plane from
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on. but the effects from hurricane matthew are far from over. police officers and firefighters in north carolina spent the day trying to get people to evacuate because of rising floodwaters. several thousand people evacuated from last week. and still cannot go home. communities could be cut off by washed out roads or bridge closures. as many as 35 people have been killed in the u.s. as a result of hurricane matthew. at least 19 deaths were th more than him to thousand rescues. and 200,000 homes are still without power. >> there are a lot of people that are hurting. living in shelters and preparing for major flooding as we speak. and it is very hard to convince people of because it is such a beautiful day in north carolina.
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said today that about 3800 people are in shelters. some of them do not have a timetable of when they might be able to go home. hurricane matthew killed about 1000 people in haiti. in the aftermath, the caribbean country is dealing with a cholera outbreak that is caused by bacteria and contracted by drinking contaminated water or eating contaminated food. doctor john tourists has been working in haiti this week. thank you for joining us now? >> there is a little progress being made. the most important thing is people are starting to realize that today -- when we drove back from jeremy, the town hit the hardest -- it is the second largest town in haiti on the southern part of the island. it got hit extremely hard. a breathtaking amount of destruction. houses collapsed. roads washed out. bridges gone. water everywhere from the floods . but what you don't see is what is inside the water.
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clinics. they have about 15-20 people waiting to get into the beds. what the doctors told me is that the three months before the hurricane hit, there was no cholera in the area. after the hurricane hit, there have been hundreds of cases and multiple debts from cholera. the concern is that it will get worse because there is no fresh water. unlike the u.s., where a lot of help can come immediately and get shelters set up, here people are sleeping on the side of the road. people are getting any kind of water anywhere they can because obviously they need to live. but it is contaminated water causing the cholera problems. >> obviously the main water sources have been contaminated. that is why they are experiencing these issues. talk about how these clinics are doing. we are watching video of young babies and even adults that are severely affected by this what is happening in those clinics? how do they get back to normalcy?
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there is a lot of help going into the area. it took a few days for that to happen. for a few days, we did not here much about anything going on in haiti in that area. that is because nobody could get in there. the roads were destroyed. they finally cleared up the roads. it is going from port-au-prince to jeremy, a 7-10 hour journey. it takes a long time. what they are finding out is these people need food, shelter and water. those are the three essential things. they are getting it to them as quick as they can. the problem is, it is not fast enough. a lot of people are having issues with that. and unfortunately, there are riots going on. people trying to steal food from distribution trucks. it is causing a security issue. the works --the works -- the groups we worked with today, are trying to set things up and get people moving to the care they need. they are also educating them
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that is safe for the family. they are worried about the cholera epidemic -- and that it will start getting worse. >> we heard 1000 people have been killed from hurricane matthew. obviously they are in the beginning stages of cleaning up. does it seem like they have begun to repair infrastructure from what you have seen? >> right now, you are right. they are at the beginning stages of trying to get the roads clear, trying to get the houses -- whatever they can out of the house is. they cannot live in the hse anymore. they are completely demolished. you drive along the road -- breathtaking is the word that i would use for the amount of construction -- destruction you would see. the houses are collapsed. you see pictures from years past and there were a lot of palm trees and beachside vegetation. it is completely gone. the area hit was also the bread basket for the whole country
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those are gone as well. when they clear this up and get people sheltered and get people food and water, they will have long-term issues with keeping that going. it is going to cause a big impact. >> certainly a lot of help needed in haiti. that is an understatement. those people are in our thoughts and prayers. thank you for your work and your contribution to our show today. wells fargo needs a new ceo. the ceo is resigning effectively immediately after a scandal over the bank's scale -- he testified before congress two weeks ago and promised an expanded investigation into the 2 million fake accounts open without customer knowledge. he admitted that what his bank that was unethical. congress said it was illegal. wells fargo has fired more than 5300 employees and had a $185 million fine.
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said if they will refer the case to the justice department for criminal charges. locking the front door cannot have prevented the staff. because the thieves took the whole house. one of those tiny houses was parked outside of a sacramento woman's apartment. the 40,000-dollar home was not parked there when she went outside. not the easiest thing to hide. a woman found it in a parking lot about one hour away. the tiny house is now back where it belongs. >> you stole a house? i >> may be more to come. >> they are really popular. but, on. build your own. robo calls are bad enough. now another reason to check your facebook privacy settings. >> the campaigns are using your data to target you.
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overly excited. the service is closely tied to the amazon echoed devices. you can also ask it to play songs. analysts say not everyone is on board with that just yet. another reason to be careful about what you like and post on facebook. consumer groups are warning users about targeting as we get closer to the election. campaigns are in overdrive trying to win votes through online adds and they ar >> the average user spends about one hour a day on facebook scrolling, liking and commenting. each move you make is a data point. facebook is scooping up more than just your age, location and relationship status. working with retail brands and political campaigns to gather
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you have lived in your home, how many credit lines you have, which groceries you buy and what kind of medication you are using. >> i was freaked out. >> tyler woods has been on facebook for eight years. lately he feels like political ads are following him around. >> if you feel like your information is being sold or spread to parties or entities that unit -- that you have no idea about, it loses that sense of trust. >> the data is especially useful to political campaigns -- who spend an estimated $1.2 billion on digital ads this election cycle. >> i could tailor specific interests within that zip code. you can address those people with this. >> who did you target? >> in my be people interested in certain issues. >> he says targeted facebook adds alone have helped his candidates move up in the polls. and they are much cheaper than tv commercials. >> this is live or die for politicians. so being able to motivate
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essential. >> the hillary clinton campaign says they are spending $30 million on digital ads between now and election day. >> we face big challenges. we can solve them the same way families do, working together. >> on facebook, you are in competition with your best friend, spouse, kids -- if we are not able to reduce a message or a video that is actually compelling, you know perfectly well that you can click to any other thing on the internet. >> both campaigns match voter information with your facebook data to get out the vote. donald trump access campaign also uses his twitter account together personal data from twitter and matching it to find you on facebook and show you ads. >> when mr. trump sends out a tweet and his tweets are retweeted -- we are then able to pull that data and use it. >> private acute -- privacy advocates call this the surveillance business model.
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impact what you see in the future. >> when you are going on facebook, you will likely be presented with ads and information that is based on what your patterns have done in the past. it is not neutral. it is not supposed to be neutral. >> digital experts say all that store data could be made more available to the government and to hackers. and the more collected, the more of it is a target. >> and nbc reached out to facebook. facebook said this is standard in the industry and they recently made it adjust your settings. you may want to check that out. >> privacy experts say there are steps to safeguard privacy including installing programs that block third-party cookies and demanding more from social media sites. a lot of people concerned about this. you have to ask around about this. >> it is amazing how much the social media sites are clearing and on now.
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preferences. maybe you can change them -- hopefully inside of the facebook settings. >> the whole politics thing on social media -- everybody is weighing in. everybody wants their voice heard. >> it is like thanksgiving dinner every day. can't we just get along? . >> you can only stuff your face one time a year the sunshine went, don't worry.
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and dependence past -- you have to remember is above 12,000 feet. so some perspective. it is that time in colorado. >> if you need to see snow, look around. >> but we talked about this day and how some people really enjoy this weather. these are the images that look so cool sometimes. you get the fog rolling in. we don't see that much fog in colorado. up in fort collins, look at that. the partly cloudy skies and the fog. re meteorological terms about whatever that means. inversion or whatever. >> it is really pretty for the rest of us. >> we don't know exactly what they mean. it is like the hot air is down -- >> explain it to us. >> you are on the right track. i like this. it is called a temperature inversion. that is when temperatures are backwards from what you think they would be. so up high in the mountains, it is lower than down low in denver. >> a science lesson.
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>> thank you, becky ditchfield . >> it is the temperature inversion. the easterly wind that kept the clouds around all day. we were counting on those clouds to move out. and give us a little bit of sunshine. pushing highs into the 50s. and that just isn't happening. taking a live look outside, you see clouds over denver. not seeing any amount of blue over the city in the 9news backyard. as we look toward fort collins, there it is. more of the same. just clouds sitting against the foothills. and stretching out over the csu campus. when you look to the divide and it looks hazy. that is the sun shining brightly into the camera lens. it has been sunny in the mountains all day long. those temperatures we were talking about, warmer there
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here -- the hyatt dia is 48 degrees. that is it. the average, 67. so nearly 20 degrees below average for us. we have had this lower visibility throughout the day. fog -- at least in the city has lifted. the visibility is about ten miles. so as the clouds meet up with the foothills, you'll have to push through some of those. and you will see more of the fog out to the west. up against the foothills. temperatures, 44 degrees. that is dia. greeley, 45. on the eastern plans, low to middle 50s. look at the mountains. eagle, 68. grand junction, 74. outside in the backyard, a little chilly. i have layers. i'm good with my layers. we are at 46. if i would be out here for about a half hour, i would want my jacket. right now we are doing okay. these temperatures compared to 24 hours ago, 32 degrees colder in denver. 27 degrees colder for greeley.
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collins. a big cool off from yesterday. we have the same temperature differences on the eastern plains. look at the mountains. a lot of those folks are warmer today than this time yesterday. not a lot going on on the radar screen. we had a little bit of drizzle early this morning. especially with the fog. most of the rain is across the country's midsection we had reports of very strong wind associated with storms around the great lakes. wind gusting getting up to 40 and even close to 50 miles per hour with a heavy rain pushing in. the system clears out tonight. it gets really cold across the midwest. we have freeze warnings and frost advisory's in effect tonight through tomorrow morning for locations through omaha, parts of iowa and stretching into northern illinois. does not quite make its way into chicago. chicago will have a pretty chilly night. across the east coast and off the shore, we are watching
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eye and is considered a category two storm with maximum sustained wind at 110 miles per hour. nicole is expected to gain strength, becoming a major hurricane -- that is category three or stronger, as it approaches bermuda. then it will move into cooler waters and it will lose strength as it pushes even further away from the east coast. back here in colorado, we are looking still at more clouds. clearing a little bit a few around -- especially to the west early tomorrow morning. we will get sunshine tomorrow afternoon. and that should help warm us up tomorrow. 42 degrees is below tonight. greeley, 35. the eastern plains will be dropping into the upper 30s and lower-40s. we will see lows in the 30s in the mountains. tomorrow, 73, the high. it is going to be a lot warmer than today. greeley, 72. around fort collins, 72. lower to middle 70s on the
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actually cooler than what we will be. highs in the 50s and 60s. we are looking at wind tomorrow out of the south at 5-10 miles per hour. as long as we don't have the easterly component, we should start seeing some of the clouds clear a bit. we will have partly cloudy skies tomorrow. seventy-three, the high. wind out of the east at about 5- 10 miles per hour. it looks like it will be a beautiful day. it gets even warmer on friday. friday's high warm, sunny, beautiful. dry conditions continue into the weekend. saturday and sunday a little cooler with highs into the middle and upper 70s. check this out. mild into the start of next week. we have cooler temperatures in store for tuesday, wednesday and thursday. all those days look dry. into the low 60s. pretty close to average for us. this is looking to be a very nice next week and a half. when we get past today. which is not that bad. >> not too bad.
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. but we are not going there. >> she is just prompting people to call you. >> everybody wants to know. >> i have been thinking about it myself. sometimes we get these really warm starts to october and then we cool up drastically toward the end. time will tell. might be chilly. maybe a mild october. i know everybody wants to know if we have to cover up the kids with coats and hide all the halloween costumes. >> hopefully not. >> >> thank you. hillary clinton and donald trump are the two most talked about people of the debate. but there is a third. -- person people are talking about. >> and hugely popular.
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or trump, but a power plant operator by the name of can bone . >> he is everywhere. >> people are not tired him him -- tired of him. >> he has become an internet sensation. that red sweater. our affiliate in st. louis got to spend some time with him. the day started off with him taking questions from msnbc and then inside edition. three back-to-back on interviews, a quick sophie and it was back to the next tv interview. after a few more interviews, he did questions from viewers. >> answer the phone on camera. i'm the worst tv guest ever. this is ken bone, can i help you? >> he is so charismatic. that is what i love about this guy. you can't forget about the red sweater. it is what made him so famous. the sweater basically sold out around the world. ken bone says that is what is
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he would love to see people dressed up that way for halloween. >> do you watch that's what her? >> i wash it every day. i wish i could do it twice. >> his message is really why so many people love him. he says he just hopes all of this publicity will get people out to vote. just go vote. >> a great message. we were talking earlier about why he wore the red sweater. he says he ripped the seat of his very nice all of sut he had to swap out for a red sweater really quick. now he is famous. >> it is a power color. keep it going. get out the message. it out to vote. don't worry, the 15 minutes of fame is not over yet. a couple big developments for him. huber buys -- boat wants him to be a company ambassador. he will be in las vegas to be a commentator in the last presidential debate. most students cannot wait
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>> in the afternoon, when most students have left columbine elementary school in boulder, others are still in class. not because they have to, but because they want to. >> i loved learning about this. >> this afterschool class is part of a program aimed at hispanic students called, classy. the long version is the science and education. it is the brainchild of this woman. >> a specialist who consults with the national center for atmospheric research, the national science foundation and nasa. >> michael is to reestablish the connection -- my old is to reestablish the connections
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>> for hispanic kids, that can be a challenge. science and mathematics can be intimidating to begin with. on top of that, those fields are not exactly known for diversity. >> science is predominantly white male. >> they know this firsthand. >> i focused on changing the underrepresentation in stem fields. >> a trained biologist, she turned away from practicing science in a lab to focus instead on getting kids interested. >> trying to figure out a way to change i really felt alone often times. and trying to figure out why it is that there are no more of me there. latino students, students of color. >> she has helped develop science-based curriculums for use in schools for a component with hispanic students. >> how you can take everyday materials and create something new. where they see themselves as innovators.
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like a battery, magnets and colorful paper to explain planetary science. at the same time, connecting them to other worlds through cultural background. >> you find a teacher standing in front of 20 latino kids that are feeling -- this is mars. this is space. i don't belong there. this is too much. >> as a teacher, we tell you that the mayans documented the movement of 600 years. so you come from amazing astronomers. >> it is a powerful reminder that math and science are part of their story too. >> my dream is to become an astronomer. i always think -- she is my inspiration. >> and their parents say they are taken aback by how much the
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broncos nation, i know you are wondering. the quarterback says he will start tomorrow in san diego. the broncos insider for 9news says there have been a couple things pointing to that including the first afc west game against the chargers. >> this could be strategy. >> the team thinks tomorrow's game is more important than the game against the falcons.
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was one of the big questions. we know that gary kubiak will not be the head coach. still recovering from a migraine condition. all kinds of colorado ties. his dad has big connections to mile high. you will learn a lot more about that in the huddle. don't get to watch the huddle at 6:30 p.m. tonight. more in sports with all those connections >> a great matchup tomorrow night in the afc west against the chargers. hopefully a big win for the broncos. >> phillips is not the bad boy we always thought. >> philip rivers? >> yes. >> he is a great quarterback. you cannot deny that. the no-fly zone knows what to do there. >> yesterday it is okay. >> we will let the sports guys talk about this.
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if the make my day law could apply to the shooting this week of two teenagers who may have been stealing marijuana from the owner's backyard. a class-action lawsuit challenges efforts by the city of denver to remove homeless people from certain areas downtown. hillary clintonpa in several months work next on 9news. . a 15-year-old boy is dead and a 14 year -- 14 -month-old baby paralyzed. >> the men arrested faces first-degree murder and attempted first-degree murder charges. victoria sanchez has details on what happened. >> and whether the make my day law could be used in the case.
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year-old called 911 saying that he and his friend were shot denver police found the teenagers in the backyard of the house near 28th and high street. after using shotspotter, the gunshot detection technology to find them. the 15-year-old died of a gunshot wound. his picture and candles are placed in the alley near the backyard. 48-year-old keith hammock and his female roommate live in the house on the property. and pot plants growing in five- gallon buckets were growing in the ba keith hammock told police he heard an argument and then gunshots. he said someone jumped over his fence and activated the motion detector light. that is when he went downstairs and saw two kids lying on the ground. after serving a search warrant, police went to the second bedroom overlooking the backyard and found him to long rifles, ammunition and spent cartridge cases. >> you can't shoot somebody on the porch. you cannot shoot somebody in the
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