republican voters would come around and choose somebody more serious. they talked about ted cruz's ground game. they talked about marco rubio's perceived depths on foreign policy. policy. donald trump won the nomination and now primed to potentially win the presidency. >> all right. we've got a katy, we have anotherro we go to side of rock center, and nbc news projects when all the votes are counted, maine. and the raw count vote. the electoral map there to 218

neither still in reach of the 270 needed to secure the presidency. all right. steve smith, you just popped in next to me. i didn't see you. a campaign veteran, how will, how will democrats assuming hillary clinton loses here, where will the finger pointing be? >> well, you know, you don't know where to begin. i mean first off, you will have the democratic party out of power with all three, you know, congress, very weak bench. a massive repudiation personally of secretary clinton by the lek tort. it will have been a close election. for republicans will have 100% of the political power here. and right away, they're going to have the votes to repeal and replace obamacare to dismantle dodd frank. and i think you're going to see really fast action.

>> yes, he is going to speak. we understand that this is not going to be a final statement. the friends, the donors, the supporters have all reassembled. the other people here, the large crowd has been here. the music came back up. and here -- here's the announcemero it will not be the clintons. [ applause ] >> thank you. well folks, i know you've been here a long time. and it's been a long night. and it's been a long campaign. but i can say we can wait a

they're still counting votes and every vote should count. several states are too close to call. so we're not going to have anything more to say tonight. [ applause ] so listen, listen to me, everybody should head home, we should get some sleep, we'll have more to say tomorrow. i want you to know, person in this hall to know and i want every person across the country who's supporting hillary to know that your voices and your enthusiasm means so much to her and to tim and to all of us. we are so proud of you.

is not done yet. so thank you for being with her. she has always been with you. i have to say this tonight, good night, we will be back, we'll have more to say. let's get those votes counted and let's bring this home. thank you so much for all of you have done. you are in all of our hearts. thank you. [ applause ] >> campa podesta addressing the crowd gathered at the jacob javitz center on behalf of hillary clinton saying every vote should count, we can wait a little longer and telling the crowd go home. it's not going to happen tonight. there will be no speeches tonight. andrea mitchell, did you see that coming? >> reporter: well, what i was suggesting to you just a bit ago was that hillary clinton saw what happened with al gore and

especially given her verbal indictment going all the way back, but certainly in that san diego foreign policy speech last summer, the fact is, she has said she is not qualified to be commander in chief. that he is not qualified to hand the nuclear codes. he is not qualified to run our military. it would be very difficult for her to concede until every vote is counted. that said, this contradicts everything she had said as being gracious and listening to the voters, but they're basically saying that there are some states that are still, they think, within the recount range. and they want to use every legal procedure that they can and they're going to fight on. at least legally, as long as they can. as long as they have any argument. this is an extraordinarily role reversal sflp yeah, and let me

doesn't play by the rules. so what's the betting that he comes out? >> i think he comes out. >> by the way, if i were him, i would. he's leading in pennsylvania, leading in michigan, and leading wisconsin, he only has to win. he can win both wisconsin and michigan, donte, our data guy, he's running out of -- he's run out of a path for her to carry michigan. and it looked like it was, but there's wayne county didn't turn out. >> does he come out and declare victory or something near victory? >> i hope not. look, there's a choreography to this, in our system, and i was critical of donald trump earlier in the campaign, but now the burden will likely fall on secretary clinton here to commence the process where we transfer power peacefully this in this country. and that begins with a concession phone call. and the first person who will address donald trump in the next

and i think the choreography. and into the next afternoon and elections and this will probably be one of them. >> we don't know if any phone call transpired. >> clearly not yet. >> yeah. and most people seem to be heading for the exit, but there are long, sad faces here because even though john podesta is dlaekt it's not should count, clearly the folks have been watching what we've all been watching here and that path to victory all but closed. >> look, there is -- if we were talking about one state where they -- they needed to find a counting error or missing that or precinct here, she needs it in three states. >> just imagine if trump were refusing to concede under these

it has happened, again, she is trying to do something we've never seen which is find that missing -- whatever it is. that in three states where she's down essentially anywhere from a half percentage point. >> at the end of the night, she could still win the popular vote which gets the debate that comes up every four years or so, why do we do this electoral college thing? >> these are the rules y everybody agrees with -- agreed to these rules. >> exactly. but it comes up. >> just try amending the constitution. you think a presidential election -- >> that ra-- let's go to the trp headquarters, are they away of what john podest adjust gsd. >> the crowd is aware. i have reached out to the

plan to coming out to see him tell his crowd to go home and not make a decision tonight for the clinton campaign. i still have not heard back. what i have heard going on is conversations about whether donald trump should come out and decide whether he's going to decla declare himself a winner or wait it out until they get to 270. at least wait for one news network to officially call him the winner and the president elect. me. they are yelling call it, call it. obviously people are getting quite tired. it's 2:00 a.m. in the morning and many of them have been here for hours. the doors opened here at 3:00 p.m. these are folks who have been waiting to see donald trump win the presidency. they want to see it happen as quickly as they can.

when he will come out. we do know he does want to come out. he has been preparing his remarks. as of now, the last we heard, he is still waiting for 270. >> thanks. chuck? >> 2004 john kerry did not concede the night of. and you guys did not declare victory. you made the decision we'll give kerry, if he wants a day, give him a day. give him time. the psychological impact of this is not only all of us but certainly everyone on the clinton campaign went into the peninsula hotel today believing that she would be the presipres president-elect of the united states. giving your opponent some time to get used to the new reality is an okay thing to do. >> let's make it official the

senate. alaska holds on. this is want a surprise. puts a fine point on the night. it is a republican night and everything turns out the way i think we anticipate that it will, stays in republican hands, the house we know and it looks like donald trump will be president-elect the. >> this is already a more powerful con congressional majority than george w. bush. in fact, basically 50/50 senate when he came into office in 2000. he's got, if he wants to he's got the ability to do it. we're all -- i think everybody is trying to figure out how is that going to work? >> they have an r by their name. >> let me quickly make another projection. it is the state of alaska. nbc news predicts that donald trump will win the state of

54% to 37%, trump over clinton right now in alaska. as we come down and look at that race to 270 it inches trump closer but not quite there. look at that map. a sea of red with illinois kind of breaking it up there in the middle. >> lester, arizona, 11, leads in pennsylvania, leads in michigan, he leads in new hampshire. any comp nag bination of his enr leads i believe does it. >> kevin tibbles is in michigan. he can count some of those votes or the people around him. >> reporter: well, you know, lester, this has been such an initial roller coaster ride evening here in grand rapids.

from talking to the several hundred people that were here earlier, obviously the crowd has thinned out as has across the country, but the people here are just sort of flabbergasted by what has taken place with regards to this election this evening. i spoke to some people who said when they had their first sort of trump organizational meeting, you know, you could have held it in a phone booth here in grand rapids and last night, mr. trump had more than 4,000 people in the local convention center here after midnight. so things have really changed here. i can honestly say, and i'm looking across the room, that people are very surprised. i'm getting a nod that it has gone down this way. but at the end of the day, i think that people here are

cubs last week to be honest with you. how many innings is this thing going to go tonight, lester? >> and in the same week we saw the end of day late saving time. none of us is going to get enough sleep right now at least on this end. savannah, the morning papers are probably being produced even as we speak. we'll hear a lot of talk about brexit and drawing the comparison. >> well, on a couple of levels. complete rejection of conventional wisdom and what the establishment thought should happen. this is the voters of the great brit an deciding to pull out of the european union. that was a political earthquake. then also many people felt that the polls got it wrong. i think if you look a little more deeply into that it might have been the analysis of the polls that was an error. so we have a lot in common in the sense that if this election turns out tonight as we are

the establishment, polls that aren't getting it right, media conventional wisdom being rejected, it's all there if you want to make those connections. donald trump has been making that connection himself actually quite a bit. saying we got a brexit situation. he's been using it as something of a short hhand, a way of sayi this is a moment that all the people are supposed to know everything. soon it's going to be turned >> brexit hasn't played out yet but people can look over there and say -- >> well, there was this immediate regret that people felt. you see the financial markets. we already are seeing some of that happening. the dow future is crashing and you're seeing some of the overseas stock markets that are already open dropping significantly. but then there's also as the months go on you start to see that life goes on. >> the world didn't end. >> yeah.

>> i find it fascinating we talk about rejection of the establishesment. in every state even the makeup of these states, they're slightly different. it is very rural urban. it's like she did -- look at texas. she actually did it better than texas because she did well in urban areas. but it's the rural vote that came out. it is every state essentially shows the -- those that feel as if they were feeling left behind whatever the big city is in that state, they voted clinton and rurals of that state said no. >> senators get returned to office, blur and blunt to name a couple. >> we're going to take a break f. you've been flipping by, just to be clear, the party essentially ended at the what was the viewing party for the clinton folks, came out and said

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. it 2:20 in the morning eastern time. watching the cameras in the trump headquarters trying to figure out if we're going to hear from anybody in the campaign. hillary clinton's folks have left their viewing party. not certainly throwing in the towel because this isn't over, but we'll keep an eye on what's happen tlg at the trump headquarters. why we do that let me go back over to chuck todd.

tell us what they're looking at. >> i can tell you what we're loo looking. number one, we don't know what the total absentee vote is in milwaukee. then we will know what the absentee vote is and we'll figure it out. then a few precincts. ey and that's why we haven't called those. move over to michigan and explain where we are there. still some vote out in detroit. in wayne county, when all of the p precincts are counted in detroit, then they tell us what the absentee vote it. we don't know what that number is and our guys want to know what the number is until they feel comfortable making a

as you can see, it is a trump lead there. let me take us over to pennsylvania. there it is. here in pennsylvania, again, between provisional ballots and the exstratraneous ones that ar around, and some provisional ballots, our folks don't think we'll be able to call pennsylvania tonht that's available. we know a few other news organizes have. our guys don't want to do it considering how many pro provisionals or ut out there. >> can he win without -- >> he can win with any pairing, any combination. he can win with just pennsylvania and arizona. he's 22 short. so both wisconsin and michigan

i think wisconsin looks of all these i think the biggest reach for clinton is wisconsin. we'll throw ten in there. that's 258. michigan would put him over or pennsylvania. so look, we are -- i'll get to the what if in a minute and make sure it's all working well. she's got to win all of them. this point. pennsylvania puts him there. he just needs that. arizona would put him over the top. he could lose both wisconsin and michigan. or let's do. give her both of those. then he could win michigan and wisconsin. talk about all those paths she had. donald trump has them all now. he's the one with all the paths. >> but the fact is those combinations are still possible.

the clinton folks have gone home. and the question is now, what will donald trump do? it would almost seem in character that he would want to come out now. >> i have to say, look, when they decided not to declare victory that night with john kerry, we were talking about one state. we are talking about three states here. they basically, they need a miracle in two of those three ballots that are missing or provisional ballots from -- or a bigger absentee vote that was expected. obviously, you wait. but i can see why the trump people are irritated. >> hillary clinton had talked so much about healing in her final remarks. as andrea pointed out, if she had to concede, you almost wonder what can she say in a healing way given the way she has positioned herself against

democracy and many other things? >> she's laid out the homework assignment pretty well because she's been telling him what is required, what our democracy is required when there's a peaceful transfer of power. she's going to have to fine the words if she finds herself in that situation, to put the country first, to say this man is our president. there is a script to follow. but i mean, these are speeches to give. >> not to interrupt, spokes person for the republican party says donald trump is about to take the stage at the hilton. >> let's go to katie then. katie are you hearing the same thing that we're about to see donald trump on stage? >> yeah, i am. donald trump is in the building and there is a bit of a frenzied atmosphere.

lineup a couple minutes ago. now secret service are on either side of donald trump's podium. we are expecting him to come out. it is unclear at this point what donald trump will say. will he declare victory? will he chastise hillary clinton for not conceding? will he chastise the news organizations for not calling it? this crowd has gotten you hear them yelling at times behind me, yelling at fox news which is standing right next to me to call this race and wondering why they are not doing it. of course fox news is on the monitors here at headquarters. it is late. many of these folks have been drinking. there are bars here. they want to see their candidate come out and they want to hear what he has to say. and what donald trump has to say frankly is anybody's guess.

campaign trail for this last 17, 18 month, you never predict what donald trump is going to do. >> i think you appreciate the restlessness of folks. they have seen this thing turn around in ways that not even members of the campaign could acknowledge. >> look, the right thing -- the right way to handle this if you're donald trump and you think you're going to be president of the united states is to go out there. you thank everybody t. it's close. we don't want to assume an. the winner soon. something like that. can he restrain himself? >> call for a moment of grace. >> that's right. this is his first presidential moment. how he handles this will be an interesting test. >> i remember having a conversation with him in new hampshire at the beginning of all this. he had said something that raised eyebrows. i remember asking the question that at some point will you switch into a presidential mode? i said it's hard for people to think of you saying what you

seal in front of you. he acknowledged there's a certain amount of showmanship and he in fact would. we've seen moments along the campaign where he has but then he reverts back to the primary donald trump. >> you're right. he says i know how to be presidential. >> there's just no question. he's treated this as a steel cage death match from the first hour that he descended the e is he capable of showing that level of restraint? >> this could be that moment. >> look, he's going to have -- he's got a very divided country on his hands. he's going to have it the same way, no matter which one of these candidates won tonight, they had a divided country. he's got one that's going to feel more divided by race than perhaps there was an expectation. so look, he, again, he has got

million people, not the 122 that voted. >> one of the interviews we saw earlier down in the plaza was with someone who said this is -- you've got to remember this is in many ways more about hillary clinton than it was donald trump. the vote against -- >> i hear you. i'm not fully convinced of that. >> there was a lot of hate, you know, generated you don't think that would -- >> there's no doubt. but these folks were gravitated towards trump. if this were always anti-hillary, i think he would have done better in the suburbs. this was different. this is rural america. this is them saying you know what, stop trying to leave us behind. >> it was like in some way it almost is beyond any one candidate. it's like who most effectively sends the message that we've had

the candidate that prevails. >> by the way, what is enough? you've got to define that. >> it's just a massive re -- >> katie, seeing any further movement. >> we are seeing a number of his staff from his campaign and governor pence's campaign. we really could be waiting any minute now for donald trump to take the stage. just to reflect a little bit on how he has gotten here, the questions that still remain around donald trump, i think it's worth noting that he still hasn't addressed the conflict of interest between himself and his business. he said that he would hand it over to his kids and give it to them in a blind trust, but that's not quite how a blind trust work, especially since many of his holdings are so public and it's very clear to find out what would be going on with them. there's also an open

having to do with his university. there are also questions surrounding his conduct with women. women alleging that he has groped them. he has gotten this far by defying political norm, by defying the system, by breaking the rules. by doing. that's what his supporters have liked about him. now, the question is, he has made some very big them. he's promised that he is going to build a wall. he's promised that he would immediately end obamacare. he promised that he would tear up the iran deal, get rid of the epa. these are difficult things to get done alone. but donald trump could potentially and does actually have a republican-controlled senate and a republican-controlled house if he were to win. that certainly would help him.

as much as he energized his own supporters, he revolted millions of americans and we saw this from city to city especially in the urban areas, especially the areas that were closer to the border with mexico. large crowds of people that would come out and protest defiantly reviewing to accept donald trump as a legitimate candidate and getting into confrontations with his su city in this country in the lead up to donald trump's nomination for the republican party. that died down a little bit after he won the nomination and after it seemed that many folks who supported hillary clinton just didn't see the prospect of donald trump actually winning to be plausible. i wonder what happens tomorrow if donald trump does, in fact, get to 270, what sort of

enfranchised by donald trump or targeted, excuse me, by donald trump, what sort of reaction will they have tomorrow? >> there is so many ways this could fall. think of all the republicans running for senate who distanced themselves from him. those who publicly were part of the stop trump movement. you know, there's a saying about payback and how much will they see? >> i think one of the t first candidate voiced to win who defeated two parties. so he defeated the democratic party tonight but also the republican party, the establishment of it. it lays in ruins. this is the party of ronald reagan and both president bushes. it's something new and different. as katie said, that campaign has functioned far outside the normally boundaries of what's

>> he is going to have the rational to give the victory speech. there is one news organization that has call the president. that is call he may be looking for is one major news organize to do it. one has. >> and we are guided by our decision desk and they're not there. >> by the way, i stick by our guys. we've been, you know, after going through the ringer in 2000, we areer right, we can wait until we see how this plays out. >> no reason why you don't count the votes. >> clearly there is a high sense of expect -- expectation. they have seen the reports that we all had and the confidence in the clinton campaign. poll numbers that had her

multiple paths to 270 and we have watched here seven or eight hours we've been out here watching that wall crumble apart in a reversal of fortune. it is clinton who has been left with a singular path, if you will, to the 270 and right now we watch and wait. we look at the numbers. keep seeing these are the states that are all too close to call. clinton holding on to a slight there's wisconsin trump ahead. >> trump didn't plan a bash for tonight. in fact, his aides were saying he didn't want to have a big party because he didn't want to jinx it. meanwhile the javits center is a huge convention center. >> their transition was in full gear. i mean, there was coordination beginning with the white house

first. they were measuring the drinks. >> there's been certainly discussion about what a trump cabinet would look like. >> could be in charge at least nominally. >> he has not been as much of a factor and a force as he was as early on. >> part of it is the bridgegate trial, his two with it. they're about to serve time they thought -- sos that was the reason why he had been sort of staying away. >> nicole wallace is back with us. you had a little insight into what a trump cabinet might look look. >> i think governor christie,

very reason of what we're seeing tonight. the outcome is uncertain. that work sort of goes on in private. chris christie and his staff had vetted cabinet members. there was a list. i think we just didn't ask a lot of questions because we trusted what we were seeing in the polls. and didn't think we'd be talking about a trump cabinet. but all that work that goes on on both sides has gone on on the trump side. >> camera continuing to pan the crowd there. all eyes on the tv monits the stage. folks waiting and hoping for a call. certainly waiting to see their candidate donald trump who will have a lot to say when he comes out here. because though he had predicted victory, most of the polls largely pointed against that happening. this will be a stunning upset if it in fact how it all plays out. continue to watch those states

close to call. katie, what are they seeing on the screen? what are they hearing? >> they're watching fox news and they are waiting just like everybody else here. you can see there's a woman right there who is even yawning. many of these people have been here since 3:00 this afternoon. from what we've seen around the country is that donald trump supporters will wait hours on end for him to c on the balcony, people shaking hands. we're seeing members of donald trump's staff down by the buffer area where the stage is. also the whole crew has been pacing back and forth unclear at this point whether he will come in from the left side or the right side. although we do believe it will probably be from the left side.

this is all extraordinarily preliminary at this point because donald trump didn't want to have these conversations behind the scenes with his staff because he was very -- he didn't want to jinx his chances. staff members told me that he would tell the story of 2012 having a conversation with mitt romney and romney saying he was too busy to talk because he was dealing with t donald trump reacting by what do you mean transition, you haven't won the election yet. who knows if he had that conversation, but that is the story that his campaign had relayed to me. his campaign was behind the scenes -- i had conversations with folks were telling me i don't know, what have you heard about me, what do you think i should do, i think i'd like to do this, that, or the other, but

campaign and even one in the national security realm, nbc news heard, was that general mike flynn. we got that from a few different sources. also newt gingrich for secretary of state. rudy juliana for attorney general. these are names that we are very familiar with at this point because they travel with donald trump and they've been who knows if they will be ultimately on this whittled down list. but what i can tell you is that donald trump does like loyalty above anything else and these men have been very loyal to donald trump through the thick and thin of this campaign, through the roller coaster right even any other republicans were

their endorsement, then coming back around. at some point even newt gingrich chastised donald trump for his responses or behavior. ryan frebis would go quiet at point. we just heard a huge cheer from the crowd. they're reacting to what they're seeing on fox news. essentially, though, what happens next with campaign is still very much an unknown, guys. that's going to be the big question that dominates the news cycle for the next three months. >> all right. we're watching celebration at tu trump headquarters. they're not reacting to anything that we have reported. let's go to nbc's kelly o'donnell. kelly. >> sources tell me that hillary clinton has telephoned donald

it is now president-elect donald trump the phone called was placed just a short time ago where the former secretary of state has conceded the general election to donald trump. who has never held elective office and is now president-elect. >> if that is the case, that occurred less than an hour after john podesta came before the crowd and said all the votes need to be counted. bu the same data drawing conclusions perhaps at a different pace, but it's becoming clearer and clearer where this is all pointing. right now we have donald trump at 248. 218 for hillary clinton. there's the breakdown for you of the electoral votes in the race to 270. nonetheless, there is excitement here. as we said, others interpret data differently.

trump in a few moments. he'll have a lot to say. rightfully so. he will have pulled off, if in fact he is victorious, he will have pulled off the equivalent of a ten magnitude political earthquake in this country on every level. but you can see the smiles, the waves, the signs in the air at the trump headquarters. all this by the way taking place just about four blocks from us. t i'm channeling, people have spoken. we all -- everybody needs to accept it. you know, you can be frustrated by it. >> that's the way it works. >> that's right. this is american democracy. it's at its best. people turned out. you would feel worse about a situation like this if this was a low turnout election. everybody has their say in this.

call to a lot of establishments of both parties. it's a wake up call to the news media. i go back to -- i thought about this and how we covered the great recession and how we covered the economic downturn. we covered it statistically both as it was going down and we covered it statistically as it was going up. we never touched it. and look, i -- i know i'm going to go through this and plenty of other peopl this, but we've got to acknowledge this. it is -- this is the populace. we're in which economic transition. no doubt about it. going from this industrial economy where jobs, people knew what their job was going to be -- nobody knows. i'll stell you something steve

they want to go driverless. >> what's being is trump's making big promises, i'm going to bring those jobs back and i'm going to reverse those and i'm going to make your lives closer to what they were before. that is a huge promise. >> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the vice united states, governor mike pence. >> you heard the words vice president-elect to the introduction to governor mike pence. in looking live here, trump headquarters in midtown manhattan, there is governor mike pence introduced as the

>> even in the close inner circle didn't know how tonight was going to turnout so i doubt all these speeches were ready. >> i spoke with someone who said we've got -- >> and the headline kelly o'donnell reporting a source saying that clinton has called trump to concedes the election. >> here's didn't often seem on the same page with his running mate. >> this is a historic night. the american people have spoken and the american people have elected their new champion. america has elected a new president and it's almost hard

i and my family feel, that we will have the privilege to serve as your vice president of the united states of america. i come to this moment, i greatful to god for his amazing grace. grateful to my family, my wonderful wife karen. our son michael and his fiancee sarah. our daughter audrey far away and

them. i'm deeply grateful to the american people for placing their confidence in this team and giving us this opportunity to serve. and i'm mostly grateful to our president-elect whose leadership and vision will make america great again. so honor and distinct privilege to introduce to you the president-elect of the united

trump.

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>> thank you. thank you very much, everybody. sorry to keep you waiting. complicated business. complicated. thank you very much. i've just received a call from secretary she congratulated us. it's about us on our victory. and i congratulated her and her family on a very, very hard-fought campaign. she fought very hard. hillary has worked very long and very hard over a long period of

of gratitude for her service to our country. i mean that very sincerely. now it's time for america to bind the wounds of division. have to get together. to all republicans and democrats and independents across this nation, i say it is time for us to come together as one people. it's time. i pledge to every citizen of our land that i will be president for all americans and this is so important to me. for those who have chosen not to support me in the past, of which there were a few people, i'm

guidance and your help so that we can work together and unify our great country. as i've said from the beginning, ours was not a campaign, but rather an incredible and great movement made up of millions of hard-working men and women who love their country and want a better, brighter future for it's a movement comprised much americans from all races, r religions, backgrounds and beliefs who want and expect our government to serve the people and serve the people it will. working together we will begin the urgent task of rebuilding

american dream. i've spent my entire life in business looking at the untapped potential in projects and in people all over the world. that is now what i want to do for our country. tremendous potential. i've gotten to know our country so well. tremendous potential t. it's going t thing. every single american will have the opportunity to realize his or her fullest potential. the forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer. [ applause ] >> we are going to fix our inner cities and rebuild our highways, bridges, tunnels, airports, schools, hospitals.

infrastructure. which will become, by the way, second to none. and we will put millions of our people to work as we rebuild it. we will also finally take care of our great veterans. [ applause ] >> who have been so loyal and i've gotten to know so many over the time i've spent with them during this campaign has been among migry greatest honors. we will embark upon natural growth and renewal. we will call upon the best and brightest to leverage their tremendous talent for the benefit of all. it's going to happen.

we will double our growth and have the strongest economy anywhere in the world. at the same time, we will get along with all other nations willing to get along with us. we will. we'll have great relationships chl. we expect to have great, great relationships. no dream is too big. no challenge is too great. nothing we want for our future is beyond our reach. america will no for anything less than the best. we must reclaim our country's destiny and dream big and bold and daring. we have to do this. we're going to dream of things for our country and beautiful things and successful things once again. i want to tell the world community that while we will always put america's interest

everyone, with everyone. all people and all other nations. we will seek common ground, not hostility, partnership. not conflict. and now i'd like to take this moment to thank some of the people who really helped me with this what they are calling tonight very, very historic victory. first i want to thank my parents who i know are looking down on great people. i've learned so much from them. they were wonderful in every regard. i had truly great parents. i also want to thank my sisters, maryann and elizabeth who are here tonight. where are they? they are here someplace. they're very shy actually.

friend. my brother robert. and they should all be on this stage. but that's okay. and also my late brother fred. great guy. fantastic family. i was very lucky. great brothers, sisters. great unbelievable parents. to and eric and tiffany and baron, i love and you and i thank you and especially for putting up with all of those hours. this was tough. this was tough.

so i want to thank my family very much. really fasntastic. thank you all. vanessa, thank you. thank you very much. what a great group. you've all given me such incredible support and i will tell you that we have a large group of people. they kept saying we have a small staff. not so small. look at you will the people that we have. look at all of and kellyanne and chris and rudy and steve and david. we have got -- we have got tremendously talented people up here. i will tell you it's been very accident very special. i want to give a very special thanks to our former mayor rudy

he traveled with us and he went through meetings. never change. where is rudy? governor chris christie, folks, was unbelievable. thank you, chris. the first man, first senator, first major, major politician, washington, because he's as smart as they get, senator jeff sessions. great man. another great man, very tough competitor. he was not easy. he was not easy.

rudy got up here. another great man who has been really a friend to me but i'll tell you i got to know him as a competitor because he was one of the folks that was negotiating tooing against those democrats, dr. ben carson. mike and his family sarah. general mike flynn. where is mike? general kellogg. we have over 200 generals and ad

campaign. we we have just tremendous people. look at all those people there. he's a superstar. if secretary came in second, he will not have that big beautiful bronze bust. rights is really a star. he is the hardest working guy.

law enforcement in new york city, they're here tonight. these are spectacular people. sometimes underappreciated unfortunately. but we appreciate them. we know what they go through. so it's been historic event. but to be really historic, we have to do a great job. and i promise you that i will not let you down. we will do a great job. we will do a great job. i look very much forward to being your and hopefully at the end of two years or three years or four years or maybe even

us. >> as donald trump continues to speak to the excited crowd here in new york, we can tell you our decision desk has now put wisconsin and pennsylvania in the trump col limb to be the apparent winner. it makes trump the president-elect. of course as he noted, secretary clinton had already called and conceded. let's listen now do donald trump. >> we'reoi for the american people. we're going to be doing a job that hopefully you'll be so proud of your president. you'll be so proud. again, it's my hon are. it's an amazing evening. it's been an amazing two h-year period and i love this country. thank you. thank you very much. [ applause ] >> thank you to mike pence.

[ applause ] >> donald trump thanking his running mate. what a dramatic evening. a nail biter and then donald trs way. a political earthquake, a come from behind story for the ages. a man who defied political gravity to walk on that stage tonight as the president-elect of the united states. savannah guthrie, you have been with me all evening. i don't think any of us at this table imagined the evening would end in quite the way it has. >> this is the rise to the occasion moment for donald trump. the really hard work begins now. because it's the hard work of uniting the country, it's the hard work of facing some very complex problems. and i think he struck the right tone in his remarks there. and said secretary clinton had called and graciously conceded and now i think all americans are exhausted by this campaign and hoping that somehow, some way, we can find a way to move

that's the order of business now. >> we're going to wake up in the morning to a brexit-like reaction in the stock market. that's going to rattle a lot of americans. president-elect trump, that was, i agree, i think he rose to the occasion tonight and did what you do for your supporters, secretary clinton did the right thing and what she needed to do. he's now quickly got to address sort of this panicked reaction th financial markets. and so that's what a president has to do. he's now president-elect, he needs to stabilize this economy quickly before that whole thing collapses. >> i had more than one person text me, there goes my retirement again. when you see dow futures down multiple hundreds of points. we'll see if that settles down as we talked about earlier. wall street hadn't exactly priced this into the market. we'll see what the long-term effect is. >> we're going to continue this

you've got to be on the "today" show. >> 6:00 or 7:00, i don't even know. >> you have been a trouper. >> start a nap. >> tell matt to sleep in i'm here, i'm awake, i'm all dressed up. >> i think you're all going to be here tomorrow. thank you. >> i know we're going to let you get out of here. >> tuck me in. >> we'll bring over hallie jackson here. >> thanks, partner. >> thank you. >> i want to get andrea's reaction. your story on ago. this was an upbeat clinton campaign. they felt good. pennsylvania was part of this fir firewall. we watched it all collapse over the last several hours. >> and it crumbles very quickly, really. when we saw the tightening very early on in several key areas. but that was early data. very little raw vote. but those early indicators were alarm bells certainly. and then when i was told by a

michigan, this is really making us nervous, we're not seeing that vote turnout in detroit and flint, that was pretty early. and everybody was saying, this couldn't be happening. look. chuck just alluded to the markets. it's global markets that have been collapsing overnight. and the fact is that donald trump has to rectify that. he could be facing the kind of economic collapse that barack obama inherited when he took office. he's got to up with a plan that is completely different from his economic plan. the $5 trillion debt hole that all independent observers have said is his economic plan. he has got to reassure markets very, very quickly. >> he has promised a lot. before we go to katy, i ask you this. i think if we had had this discussion earlier today we'd have said, gee, will we be waiting to hear a donald trump concession? will he concede?

december sta said, look, it's not done, go home, we're not giving up. then she makes the call to donald trump. what happened? >> from the inner saik sanctum at the hotel sent out with that message, we're not giving up, we have to do more reporting on this very frankly. because clearly the numbers came in. and whether they were called by ed rendell in pennsylvania and other leaders in other states, they saw that there was no margin for error. what she didn't want to do was automatic recount margin because she'd seen what happened with al gore and that set a train of events into action. which for a variety of reasons which we all know about never came back. so she wanted to see i'm sure that that was the advice. >> when do we hear from her? >> we'll hear from her tomorrow, clearly. they are staying in town. at least as i was coming over here -- >> not chappaqua? >> they are not at chappaqua,

she is presumably prepared to make a statement. she's going to have to address the american peek. >> president-elect donald trump now working the crowd. folks taking selfies. enjoying the moment. wife melania. katy tur is also in the room. katy, we couldn't get a sense of the crowd, did some folks go home? >> no, no, no, nobody has gone home. they're starting to file out now after donald trump left the stage. but there are still a large number of people here and many a picture with now president-elect donald trump. he took the stage with a number of his top aides but also his family by his side. his wife medical lawn yeah his son baron, daughter evaung character her husband jared kushner, his sons eric and don and their wives as well. it was a very jubilant moment for them. you could almost -- maybe it's just me, you could almost see the surprise, the shock, the

faces. and if you ask me to predict if donald trump would come out and give a speech as gracious as that just was, especially towards hillary clinton, i would point towards what he did in iowa after he lost to ted cruz, he did surprise everybody by coming out and give quite a gracious speech. the question is what donald trump do we see tomorrow and going forward and where do the very many policies he's put forth during this campaign season, what happens to them? and does he follow through with the promises of building a wall? remember, it was only a few days ago that donald trump was promising to put hillary clinton in jail. he was promising to investigate the investigation into the fbi. he was calling the system rigged. he was saying, obviously they were out to get him. obviously the system was rigged

that is no longer the case for donald trump, as he has won this election. i wonder how he continues to react towards hillary clinton and how he reacts to whether or not hillary clinton does take some sort of stage tomorrow to address the american public. it is quite a reversal. for the past few months everybody had been wondering if donald trump were to lose this election, how would he concede? a lot of scrutiny around him about whether he would graciously as the polls showed him behind. and now what we are seeing is that donald trump came out and graciously accept ed the president-elect title and hillary clinton still has not addressed the american public. he says that she did call him and that she congratulated "us." he made a point to say us. >> katy, it was interesting watching him, you're right, so much humility. he talked about being president

reaching out to those who did not support him. hallie jackson is with us right now. that was a very presidential speech. and those of us who watched him, certainly you watched him during the primary, during the general election. were all left to wonder, is that president trump we saw? >> he has had presidential moments through this campaign. he has moments his critics would argue would very not presidential. i think what trump the last 45 minutes or so is him trying to set the tone. remember what happened the last couple of weeks of this campaign. his campaign was i would almost say defiantly confident in their projections and mapping. he'd been talking about michigan before a lot of folks had been talking about and seeing michigan. they had identified some of these places that were going to be key battlegrounds. talking about pennsylvania. talking about wisconsin. some of these key states. look back not just in the last couple of weeks but to what we saw this entire primary season from the day that he announced,

the race 600 days ago. donald trump defeated all his primary challengers. he has been the unexpected candidate from the beginning. there are republican sources on capitol hill tonight who are saying things like, now he's going to have to learn how to fall in line with congress. >> oh yeah? >> does he? says who? donald trump would have something to say about that. >> look, i never thought somebody who may or may not win the popular vote, may not cross 300 electoral votes, i never thought i would say t has a mandate. but this person has a mandate. >> have you look the at that map lately? >> donald trump has a mandate because of how he won and because it was in defiance of the republican party, the democratic party, the professional nelg gent sea yeah, whether we in the news media, the academics, you name it. he is -- he does -- he owes nothing to those folks. now, you want to get something

but he doesn't owe anybody anything. it is a fascinating -- i'm trying to think of the last president, andrea, that didn't owe -- didn't owe a political party, a lot of fund-raisers. he comes in without owing a lot of people much. >> andrew jackson? >> exactly, go back to andrew jackson. i think this is a modern-day andrew jackson. >> james carville, when do you suspect we would hear from message, given the way she positioned donald trump as an enemy of democracy? >> right, i think that hillary clinton -- it wasn't conveyed to me but i don't have any doubt she thinks donald trump is totally unprepared to be president that he really doesn't know anything about what it takes to run the country. and she's going to have to go

tough for her. we live in a democracy. the election is in. he won the election. you're right, he doesn't owe anybody anything. he's not even a republican. he pretty much won on his own terms. the problem is people elected him because he did that, he won on his own terms. it will be unbelievably difficult time for secretary clinton -- >> is there going to be an aga -- against him, an acceptance period, and allow him a honeymoon, okay, let's see? >> you know, if you're a person accused of president obama not being born here, a lot things, you go back and say -- i mean, things happened in this campaign, he said things in this campaign that had never been said before about anybody in a

you know, i don't know. there are a lot of, you know, going to be very -- yeah, people say, they'll have to rally around him. we live in a democracy. he's won the election. it has consequences. >> by the way, look, we've had jesse ventura as a governor of minnesota out of nowhere, arnold schwarzenegger. james, i'm curious that when you look at that, there was some predictions of these people don't know what doing. california didn't fall into the ocean. minnesota didn't get taken over by canada. he struggled to govern, ventura did. ventura comes in very similar to donald trump. ventura struggled, he didn't get along with either party, doesn't get along with the learn tour, it was tough to get things done. trump ought to look at that and say, be careful. when you come in with owing nobody anything, you still need

but, you know. we've got -- >> no state falls off the face of the earth, all right? it's a little bit different when you're talking about a country. the last time we had a president, people would say a disaster, a catastrophic recession -- there was real, real consequences here. and i mean, yeah, minnesota can survive a lot. the united states is not going to seese to exist. but there are all kinds of issues. if you take what he said, you know, he wants to renegotiate the every climate agreement we're in. this is going to be the end of the system of health insurance we have. all of these things are things that descend. you have to take him serious. the people have validated that. >> when you talk to his support others the campaign trail, when you speak with folks at his rallies about some of his policies and messaging, they say, we know that he'll listen to the smart people around him once he is president-elect, once he ends up if the oval office.

every single one, they believe he'll listen to his advisers -- >> what evidence do we have donald trump has ever listened to anybody? i mean, he hasn't even -- i'm being just honest here. people may say that. there is no evidence that he -- he is a man that said, i know more about isis than the generals. there's no evidence. let's don't delude ourselves here. we know who just got elected in this country. >> i would just question what we choosing people and staff, that's all in choosing cabinet, choosing staff. >> he listened to somebody in mike pence. that wasn't his first choice. he got talked into mike pence. a more, go pick yourself a traditional republican. >> that was a very odd relationship. because he ended up -- sometimes they would give different answers to the same question. >> let's not forget, it was did he wait 24 hours, hallie, before saying he was reaffirming he was staying on the ticket after the

pence had some internal struggles with trump's morality and some of those things. but i go back to that because james, to answer your question, he did listen to somebody on pence. >> okay. >> i guess the question is, is that how he picks his cabinet? that he is going to listen to more traditional -- >> one thing i know about smart people, they never agree on anything. if you get five smart people in a room, i get that it smart people somehow or another, you know, have a consensus or something like that. and look, i hope i'm wrong. i don't want to be sour grapes, i'm obviously devastated but i hope i'm wrong. but everything i've seen about his conduct, about things that he's said, leads me to believe -- >> james, who's the leader of the democratic party right now? >> no one. the democratic party is

it doesn't have the federal court, the congress, the presidency, 30 or 31 state legislatures. you know. we're a party in search of a leader. it's a very, very tough time to be a democrat. >> we talked about the senate remaining republican. this was supposed to be the cycle for democrats. two years from now, the democrats have more exposure and more seats at stake. >> midterms. by the way, midterms, they've turned upsi midterms -- >> it's a tougher trail. >> no doubt but midterms do get flipped over. >> it's almost certain that she's going to win the popular vote. >> california. >> right. david washman -- it's almost certain. >> you know what, you know, this

the election would have been the same without that. but how can i prove it? i can't. it's -- what do you say? >> a lot of democrats are never going to believe -- you know what i mean? that's never going to go away. >> i understand. >> hallie's the expert but it seems to me in the nine days, the rhetoric, the lock her up, it had been there, then it kind of died down a bit. >> remember the obamacare thing blew up, the premiums. in the same window. >> that is the messaging t the comey announcement came out that friday, his campaign privately talked about seeing the polls tighten even before that. because he was on that health care message. i would say this. in those nine days here's what i think was one of the more significant developments. donald trump seeing what was happening when he was staying on message. and listening, to your point, to some of the people around him who said, stay on script, talk about the affordable care act, go after hillary clinton. he saw the polls begin to tighten. and it was kind of a self-fulfilling cycle in that

>> breitbart or kelly ann conway, president -- the variety, the diversity of voices. >> right, that he's listening to. >> big story coming out of this campaign and what happened is going to be people in the clinton campaign said, we need to have an economic message, you need to close on this. and there were people that said, if we close on temperament and we have this unbelievable get out the vote effort is what it's going to take to win. obviously the second out, had the day. that is going to be something that is going to be going over a thousand times. >> i need to get to kelly o'donnell in wisconsin with reporting for us, kelly? >> one of the things we need to think about, lester, that is now that he is president-elect, within days donald trump and mike pence will get higher-level intelligence briefings to prepare them in transition to take office. as candidates they had received

one of the things that one can expect when you move from that point of being candidate to president-elect is the sober nature of everything that becomes a responsibility on his shoulders. so he will be informed at a greater level now to prepare. and that of course will be involved in the decisions that he has to make to set up a new administration. in conversations i've had with senate majority leader mitch mcconnell, he has talked about a willingness to try to work with trump and to have and hope that they can work together to get some of these things done. now with republicans in control of the white house, the house of representatives, and the united states senate. >> all right, kelly. this headline has been written as we're on the air. we can show you some of the headlines as we continue our conversation. the folks who are not with us who will be waking up to trump stuns the world. andrea, let me ask you about president obama and michelle

they put blood, sweat and tears in this campaign. this was an argument not only for hillary clinton's candidacy but for his legacy. >> i have been thinking about that very thing, lester. we had been led to believe that whoever was elected, president obama would greet them, welcome them to the white house on thursday of this week. that wasn't announced, but that was what sources were saying was going to happen. and i was just thinking a couple of days ago, what if it's president trump? and the man he says, and his wife believes profoundly, was trying to delegitimize him, questioning his -- whether he was the legitimate president, his birth, his ancestry. they believe he is racist. >> michelle obama had given that amazing speech. >> at the convention. they had to raise their children in this atmosphere. there is passion about the

personal. for him and for michelle obama to do everything that they did for hillary clinton was motivated not just by policy, but by the emotion of countering donald trump and of defeating donald trump. and now we're going to see the majesty of our democracy. what is it going to take for barack obama to welcome the trumps? for mrs. obama to show melania trump around the white house? for that image that we've seen on inauguration day when they come for coffee and the two men -- now it will be a male president -- get in the back seat of that limo and ride up to capitol hill for an inaugural ceremony. it's just stunning when you think of the drama of it. it's a narrative you could not begin to imagine. >> especially because of the relationship the two have. >> exactly. >> or whatever you want to call it. >> not a relationship. >> yes, the -- >> it's poisonous.

for many african-americans in this country what he did with birtherism is an unforgivable sin. my guess is for many members of the obama family, what he did was an unforgivable sin. >> remind me, he never answered the question of what changed his mind, what ultimately brought him to -- >> he never apologized to the president of the united states. and i always thought -- now that he's about to become, it's late, but that's another thing. we talked about economics. the fact of a country that is going to feel more divided by race than we've had probably since -- before i was born in the '60s. and donald trump's got to preside over that too. it's in his best interests to perhaps repair a personal relationship with the outgoing president if he even has a chance. >> plus foreign policy, vladimir putin. >> yeah. >> i think a lot of people feel

exactly, african-americans, latinos, muslims, you name it, asians, i think a lot of people tonight are feeling like, you know, united states told them exactly what they think of me. and i think a lot of people are really feeling down. >> i had an african-american woman say that to me earlier. >> people like myself who really believe in a plural istic nation, really think it's really part of our character. i'm like, gee. did we just really do this? i'll be fine, come to grips with it. but it is a -- it is hard, it is impossible to overestimate the magnitude of this as a political story. it just cannot be overestimated. >> i can't underscore enough your point, this is not just about policy, this is deeply personal for a lot of americans. for probably half of americans out there. members of the african-american community, members of the hispanic community, who are looking at their neighbors wondering, what happens now?

carville and chuck todd and andrea mitchell, great to have all of you here as part of our coverage. that's going to do it for nbc news coverage on this decision night in america. a night that will go down in history. a stunning upset as donald trump triumphs over hillary clinton, defying the polls, the pundits and the political class once again this time elected president of the united states. coverage continues on many of these nbc stations, on msnbc, on cable, and at all the reaction coming in with matt and savannah on "today." for chuck todd, tom brokaw and our election night team, i'm lester holt. good night, everyone, from new

exacerbate? >> it's not generic. >> i need to call a brief time-out because we are welcoming some audience from our nbc stations now that we have reached the -- really the start of the morning. the day after election day. we welcome those joining our live coverage continuing here on msnbc. we look at our electronic on home ice here out back "30 rock" fell ler plaza in new york where the sun will be rising on the president-elect donald john trump of queens new york and fifth avenue new york more recently. one of the things we'll have to get used to, the northern white house, i guess, will be here in mid town manhattan unambiguously

secret service location and donald trump and the extended family we saw tonight will be moving into 1600 pennsylvania avenue. >> the suspense is over in a big way. there are still some things. minnesota, michigan, new hampshire, arizona. we don't have a bottom line in terms of the popular vote. it is possible as we're heading into these late -- these last calls, these last tallies coming in that hillary clinton may have won the popular vote and lost the electoral vote which has its own sort of -- you see how close they are there in the national popular vote. less than 1 million votes between them. still a lot of votes to count, itically on the west coast where hillary clinton did really well.

donald trump winning the electoral vote. in 2016 they won the popular vote but not the presidency. >> katie tur who was along for all of the ride in this campaign is at the new york hilton where the crowd is breaking up and the flags will be taken down. katie, your reaction after what >> oh, what a long, strange trip it's been, brian. i've been doing this now, as you mentioned, for 17, 18 months. frankly, i've lost track of the months that i've been on the campaign trail. i've been a witness what donald trump wants to call, likes to call a movement. that movement coming into fruition tonight. from city to city, from crowd to crowd, the anger was palpable. the frustration was palpable but

it was kind of like a rock concert meets religious revival. for the most part the crowds were made up of white people, very few hispanics, very few african-americans along the way. as we got closer to election day they got very angry. these crowds were not pleased and the chance we heard and some of the rhetoric we heard, not just from donald trump but from his supporters really shocked the political system. yesterday in manchester, new hampshire, at his penultimate rally, a man while governor pence was speaking talking about hillary clinton, a man yelled out assassinate that "b" word. even following trump and hearing all that i have heard certainly sent shock waves through me, assassinate somebody. and that sort of rhetoric wasn't even though i was surprised, it

because we've seen so much of that on the campaign trail. i've tried to talk to the campaign about it and i've tried to talk to rudy giuliani today about that sort of anger and where it goes and how do they harness it? is donald trump able to do that by coming on stage and giving a gracious concession speech and saying that we all do need to work together and inviting those who disagree with him to talk to him about it and talk to him why. is that going to be the long, hard process in mending the chasm in this country? i don't know what will happen next because frankly donald trump is so hard to predict. the campaign can't quite give a clear answer to that either. also, when it comes to his supporters, remember, donald trump has made some pretty grand promises on the campaign trail, especially for the first few days to 100 days that he's been in office. the other day in gettysburg he

come out and accused him of inappropriate behavior or grabbing him in a sexual way. he has said policy wise he wants to build a wall. he's talked about a muslim ban. he's talked about ripping up the iran deal. ending obamacare on day one. these are things that are difficult to do alone, even with executive orders. he does now have a republican congress on his side, both the something of a mandate because he's defied all political norms and defied politics, period. hasn't really taken with the republican party or the democrats for that matter. where does he go? can he fulfill those promises? if he does not, do his supporters hold it against him? >> katie tur at the new york hilton. thank you for that. casey hunt is here with us in our new york newsroom doing her own reporting.

we haven't talked about too much yet tonight is what happens to the democratic party going forward? there was a lot of, you know, angst and discussion of republicans, their autopsy, they were never going to win another presidential election. now we're waking up and they control the white house and the house and the senate still. and it's the democrats who are left, you lot of leaders in place for a long time. i would argue hillary clinton represents that same vein of leadership. not a terribly deep bench of young, dynamic people. there are a handful. swromp on her vice presidential strong hold. they have the energy and youth

this -- honestly, what's left of the clintonian democratic party. >> casey, let's talk about mike pence who suddenly takes on so much power and prestige. yes, in a titular way because he is vice president-elect but also as current contacts. >> i think mike pence has a chance to make the vice presidency something that, quite frankly, it hasn't been at least in recent memory. he is somebody who, as you say, understands these institutions. i covered him. he thought about running for president back in 2012. at that point he was kind of the favorite of religious conservatives.

tr trump, that donald trump doesn't have a natural feel for. i think he and paul ryan are likely to spend a lot of time crafting policy. as katie just walked through, part of why the markets are so uncertain, is that he has talked in mostly vague terms about what he will actually do. there are a lot of questions will how that gets executed. the people are going to help fill in those blanks are going to be mike pence working hand in hand with sak going forward. >> casey, thank you. for viewers just joining us or still with us, we are not ignoring the other elephant in the room still occurring to all of the people for whom this news is fresh. that is the total failure of all modes, methods of prediction, the total failure of infect participant measurement politically in this country.

will be time to deconstruct that as well. steve kornacki is at the board to tell us how donald trump won and was tonight declared the president-elect. >> i was just thinking back to when we were at this board a few months ago when donald trump got declared the presumptive republican nominee. we were asking the question that night could donald trump actually get elected president? one of the things we were talking about, well, if he does win, he'd probably have to cut a republican cut before. taking a big picture look at the red/blue map. first of all, donald trump is over 270. he's the president-elect. take a look at virginia. virginia's blue tonight. this was a bastian of the republican south for generations. it wasn't until 2008 when barack obama flipped virginia. that was a huge achievement for democrats. they barely held onto it four years ago. if you had said four years ago

and not carry the state of virginia, that would have been unfathomable. check this out, pennsylvania, the upper midwest here, pennsylvania has gone republican. 1988 is the last time pennsylvania went for a republican. they have all gone in that state. george bush sr. in 1992, bob dole in '96, george w. bush, john mccain, excuse me, mitt romney have all said i'm going to be the republican who flips michigan, right now hillary clinton is losing in michigan. it's not official. we haven't called it yet. michigan, 1988, last time. george butch sr. wisconsin, donald trump has won it. ronald regan over walter mondale. donald trump is within a point in minnesota. it's doubtful donald trump is

minnesota since 1972. donald trump needed the south. donald trump needed florida and traditional states. we have seen a brand-new way of thinking about looking at this electoral map. it goes through the rust belt and upper midwest. this is a white working class path that donald trump forged. >> that's fascinating. the thing i think we're all reflecting now is that all of us here sitting at this desk, we've all heard trump campaign over the past couple of months saying that maine second congressional district, there's a reason we keep going to maine. to see them take pa, to see them take wisconsin, to see them within a shot at minnesota, it's not true that everybody's polling was wrong. theirs was right apparently because they knew to go to those places. there's a reason donald trump went to minneapolis and told

scared of their so he molly immigrants this week. he thought he had a chance at spiking that white vote. whatever else was going on in public polling that made that look ridiculous, that was right. >> casey hunt has heard from the democrats. it sounds like we are going to hear from hillary clinton tomorrow morning or i guess today. >> today. little later. >> in a few morning on wednesday morning to hear what we presume will be a concession speech. she called donald trump to concede this race. we don't have any more details at this point but we do know she's overnighting in manhattan. we can imagine it's likely to be somewhere nearby. >> casey, thank you. back to rachel's point. we heard all of this on conference calls with officials from the trump campaign.

it was countered by the clinton cam campaign and by public polling. >> he stiffed his official public pollster to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars. i think one other thing, this will go down as an interesting side bar of this election reporting, but one of the things that happened today which i in to all of us who are used to the way we handle exit polls and how careful we are with that information, making sure there are no projections before all polls are closed. this year a couple of medium -- i will say in almost every instance, those numbers that they put out in terms of who was going to win those states based

long, those numbers were wrong. they gave much higher numbers for hillary clinton than what she ended up with and much lower numbers for donald trump. this was the democratization of data. everybody has as good information as the campaigns. that was a failure. >> garbage in, garbage out. the numbers were bad. >> the official exit polls weren't bad but the o a day of result was bust. >> this campaign got hit with a couple of rockets that we've never seen in the history of presidential campaigning. we've had exactly one candidate who was under a publicly announced fbi investigation. exactly one. that's a liability and softening

that goes. then we have the director of the fbi make an entrance into the campaign. it's so late in the campaign that it's impossible for polling to grab whatever just happened and did something just happen to reverse the first effect of the first fbi letter? we don't know. so the idea that polling could track exactly what was going on with the fbi effect on this campaign is aea early voting happening while that was going on. >> don't you think that -- you know, a lot of those people who voted for trump weren't voting for trump. they weren't voting against hillary clinton. >> well, the word is this depressing news for people leaning towards clinton and so that's the part that you don't know. >> seems to me, we'll look at the numbers, seemed to me the clinton side kind of got out the

>> conflicting information today in terms of the numbers of people that turned out. we don't yet know. starting to look like it may be an overall low turnout election. >> what trump did, you used the way he used somali immigrants as a foil. he was talking to people of duluth, in the hinter lands of minnesota who have a different idea about minneapolis and what's happening there. he did that with chicago the way he referred to violence in chicago and the inner cities as -- you know, as a way of appealing to people who didn't live anywhere near inner cities. but he sort of used people of color as a foil during the entire campaign. >> the other thing the trump campaign always understood is there is no such thing as a

trump campaign. they're all nationally televised events. when you're going to talk about somalis in minnesota, that's being heard everywhere else you want it to be heard. >> what happened tonight, a repudiation of let's discuss 2012 rnc autopsy report. there is a vision, one that i subscribe to, if you want to win a presidential election, it's the george w. bush model. you have to be up hispanic votes, dismiss out of hand the notion that there was a population of white ruling voters that could be brought to bear outside their normal turnout numbers. it was just wrong. so an colter, people have said we're a bunch of losers, weak. >> rhinos. >> they were right about it, but

all of the people -- if you said to george w. bush, mr. president, i think we should go to minneapolis and scare up the white voters with the somali -- he would have thrown you out of the oval office. all of the normal boundaries are off. it was politics as warfare at a level that this was not ever seen before. >> chris matthews, how come when st argument, you say it's okay. >> which one? >> the one he just did. >> it is what he did. he did spike the white vote. >> when you mentioned about that reporter, the comments from the pittsburgh paper, what people heard and acted upon, they wanted a better country. i want to talk about that in a mt. i have a big thought here. it has to do with that. >> i am told we are going to

our democracy our basic host to democracy is skill and winning the presidency would be applicable to being president. we thought we saw this with roosevelt, with everybody since in the modern media since teddy roosevelt. if you have the equipment to win the presidential election, you put it together to figure out what you need. that would be the best way to pick the best president. done it in a totally awful way. my determination to be optimistic is to try to say -- to try to figure it is the talent he's showing raw talent stirring up hatred and all the other things in terms of identifying markets, finding out if there's a market for anti-trade, market for anti-immigration, stupid wars. in putting all of that together

electrically. i got a call last night from kellyanne. are they going to carry pennsylvania? i'm not sure they did have a sophisticated system. >> asking if they were going to win the city. the fact that they were polling this way, what do you hear, what do you hear? that's pretty old time. i know we are going to disagree about some of these things. i am determined to find some there must be some talent here. i'm going to wait and see the next couple of days, is he going to recoil everything he said because it was a game. all of the ethnic antagonism that he made, is he going to pull back on that, that got me where i want to get. i don't need that anymore. what i need now is calm, confidence building america urs

chance of building this economy back up again. he has to change the number of partners. do the brains that got this guy elected president tonight apply to being president? i leave it as a president. i hope there's some connection. otherwise we have a ding bat as president. we're just in to doomsday right now. i'm jusot my head. i have to think there's got to be a pony in this crap pile. >> because somebody had to create the crap? >> don't forget, he was a celebrity. eisenhower, the last non-politician elected -- >> right. >> -- won the titanic struggle for the planet and came home a real time celebrity.

this network devoted years of programming and promotional support to a reality show that was mold breaking for the time and contributed largely to making this new york developer, builder, licensor, landlord, investor successful guy into a global celebrity and brand, a brand. >> that's ue products with his name on t. just one of the things we've never seen. >> let me put one to you, general electric theater. he was number three one year. he used that. so i think media celebrity, eisenhower of course was a real

he eluded and evaded the mainstream media of the time who didn't see him coming in many of the same ways. we have three minutes remaining. this is the time for real wisdom. lightning round. >> you're going to want to skip me. if you want real wisdom, i don't have that to offer at this hour. i will say though that i do think that this is a moment, however you feel about this election, to keep in your heart. some of the communities that are not represented here on this set who have been directly threatened by donald trump in a way that nobodyn position of power has ever threatened groups of americans before. muslim americans, latino americans, immigrants documented and otherwise are in fear for what this country did and what the country needs. that's a responsibility we have on all of us now regardless of what trump does with this power he's just been given. >> rachel, america is crying

america, but a significant portion. i mean literally crying. i've gotten phone calls about a daughter in tears. i know of another one i'm hearing from elsewhere and some of the people you were just talking about are crying from california to massachusetts about this. this is a sadness. this is a mourning moment for those people. and it is a moment filled with donald trump, thankfully i don't think instilled any more fear tonight in his speech. it wasn't one of those speeches that have that kind of stuff in it, but he has a job to do. what we saw happen in the stock market is happening in the hearts of americans. they are afraid. donald trump has to address that. >> steve? >> he's no longer the "celebrity apprentice" guy. he's no longer the bomb bass stick nonsense spewing presidential nominee.

awesome powers and responsibilities that will come with that office. and we've seen a side of him in this campaign that gives pause to worry greatly, but now maybe we'll see another side of donald j. trump as he gets ready to assume this office and we just have to hope that's the case. >> some of the supporters, not all the people that voted for him, took donald trump he was saying as a license for bigotry. they saw him providing an umbrella under which they could be as racist as they wanted to be to be perfectly blunt. he needs to cut that out and he needs to cut that out now. >> i was just going to say, i had this at my side, the bible of american politics. the almanac of american politics. how much of this has been just

burn. >> what new chapter have we written here together? ari melburg continues our live coverage. thank you, partner. >> appreciate it. >> thank you to all our family

live from msnbc headquarters continuing our historic live coverage. donald trump is now the president-elect of the united states. indeed, a shortim spoke in the hilton ballroom in mid town manhattan. >> we're going to get to work immediately for the american people. and we're going to be doing a job that hopefully you will be so proud of your president. you'll be so proud. >> close race late into the night and hillary clinton did not make a formal concession speech this evening. we've learned she will speak later on this morning and she

conceding the race to president-elect trump. her supporters completely stunned in a u-turn that defied almost all late polls. good morning to you. this was by all accounts a stunning vic he entered election day as an underdog but racked up an unexpected win in a wide series of battleground states. >> i've just received a call from secretary clinton. she congratulated us. it's about us, on our victory, and i congratulated her and her

fought campaign. i mean, she -- she fought very hard. hillary has worked very long and very hard over a long period of time and we oher a major debt of gratitude for her service to our country. i mean that very sincerely. now it's time for america to have to get together. for all republicans and democrats and independents across this nation i say it is time for us to come together as one united people. >> trump's early morning comments there about clinton, a marked contrast to his closing argument that she should be under investigation, if not in jail for her part. hillary clinton conceded that

trump. it was about 2:02. the clinton campaign chairman john podesta came out to a clearly tearful and upset crowd at the new york javits center. he told them it was time to go home. podesta said this. >> we are so proud of her. she's done an amazing job and she is not done yet. so thank you for being w i have to say this tonight. good night. we will be back. we'll have more to say. let's get those votes counted and let's bring this home. >> there will be more to say as clinton's aides say she will speak earlier this morning, later on this morning. i want to bring in our panel, josh barrel, katie packer,

mitt romney and david koryn, washington bureau chief and mother jones msnbc analyst. we have a lot to unpack on what is an historic and widely unexpected night. our polls said many people were not expecting this decisive victory. david, i want to start with you on the ethics, the morality. it is not every day that you on discrimination, running on banning types of immigrants or restricting it despite being an immigrant family, an immigrant family himself. he threaded those needles and won over people who previously voted for obama. >> and he entered this as a champion of a racist notion. he also admitted to engaging in

he said he did. so you have to look at the people who voted for him and we've been talking a lot about nontalented educated white guys. not the only block. and obviously none of that made a difference. the fact that he stiffed contractors, not pay taxes, the fact that every fact checker in the world, he lied, outright lied more than any other even including hillary clinton. they put that aside because of amg ger, resentment and fear resonated with them. maybe because of racism. cultural insecurity over the changing dynamics of america.

>> josh, economic insecurity may be a theme but he lost voters who make under $50,000 and he lost all voters making over $100,000. his only band was 50 to 100,000 with people who didn't go to college or were white americans? >> yeah. i'm going to want to see the vote in more details. some of the stuff we saw was he did better with college whites. it sets the data of whose fault was this and it elected him.

significant decline and turnout. it looks like he may get as many votes as mitt romney. >> will this be good enough to win because hillary clinton got so many fewer votes than barack obama got. one of the key questions is why is what remains of the democratic base switching to trump. i think democrats were in denial. i think that's one of the leading reasons why it became possible for donald trump. >> that might be an elegant word for a steaming, boiling type of anger, anger over not only the state of the american economy which by and large the exit polls were telling us were not the main issue. my question to you as a republican critic of donald trump, did he ultimately understand the republican party

>> not necessarily the republican party but i do think he understood the american electorate. you shouldn't paint it that donald trump won with uneducated racist white men. donald trump managed to thread a needle with some of those people, certainly some of those people and some of his early supporters, but also with a lot of republicans that really just despised hillary clinton. the trump train even though they don't find him acceptable. they wanted to stop hillary clinton because they think she's just as dangerous. >> two uniquely bad candidate running against him. >> 20 years of republican resentment building up but also another group that he brought in that was just willing to try anything to blow up washington, d.c.

they're unhappy with the hikes they're seeing, they're unhappy with the economic situation. they don't know who to blame. they're thinking, let's try something nobody's tried before. he managed to pull all of those groups together. it's not just a small group of angry white racist men. >> katie, one of the things we can update at 1:10 a.m. on the west coast is the margin here between these two candidates in the popular vote is fast nk our projections suggest hillary clinton by tomorrow could easily have more votes. the united states will be in a position where the person who won the most votes in the country in a democracy is not president. all is fair in the electoral college because everyone knew the rules going into it.

inside straight flush while losing the popular vote? >> what's most interesting for me, first of all, the fact that donald trump pulled out a victory looking at the polls. looking at how much the pollsters got this wrong. the reason why this is so interesting was, hey, in 2012 barack obama got there and you look at that. take it with a mitt romney only won 23% of the latino vote. in 2016, yes, hillary clinton won 25% but donald trump won more than mitt romney did. he still got 27% of this. >> does it matter if he ultimately comes up second in the popular vote? >> you know, it might matter. this is what everyone is worried about. doesn't look like they're saying that. yes, hillary clinton conceded but it does matter because it's

college and the popular vote. that's the way our system is designed. >> katie, you're sort of shaking your head. there is something large here with hillary clinton, unpopular as you say she may be. if she did despite all the things you listed off, win more votes than the other person and will have the dubious distinction of being the first female nominee to win more votes without becoming president. >> it is history itself. mitt romney won 27% of the hispanic vote in 2012, i have to correct that, so those numbers are going to be very similar. they're going to sort of defy a lot of the early projections that the latino vote was way up. we also are seeing the african-american vote not producing fwht same kinds of numbers as they did for barack obama. this is a group that has been very, very loyal and supportive

you have to wonder after two years of an african-american president and a democratic party, you have to wonder if they'll say they can't produce. >> if he had won that you know what we'd be saying, rigged, rigged, rigged. >> is it rigged? >> hold on a second. this is the second only -- the last two republican presidents have won have not won the majority votes and if you look at the way the house of representatives is jerry manned, you have to have 54% of the democrats in order to win a majority of the votes. at some point we have to look at this and say is this the way a modern democracy should work? yes, these are the rules and he won by the existing rules but he can't say his positions are

they're majority positions in a lot of rural states. they don't have the population that other states have. so the president will come in not representing the desires, dreams, host of most americans. >> josh, you're shaking your head. >> well, this is not the system i would design although every country's voting systems have ir elect the head of state with a popular vote. how pathetic is it, that the opponent of the candidate that was this bad could not come out by more than 1 million votes ahead of him. hillary will probably end up with the lead of a million votes. >> democrats should have been able to put up somebody. >> there's two questions. no one is suggesting anything

we have a system that governs this. >> let's call it. donald trump and his fans, i think we're going to be hearing this, we have a mandate. everyone is behind what we want to do. here's why paul ryan, roger ales or anyone should get out of the way. the answer is you did win fair and square but you don't have a majority of numbers. we're going to pause it tlbs because i want to bring in alex this board does not talk back to me. also, we have to keep in mind, there are four states that we have yet to hear the final numbers on. that said, what i want to focus on here is donald trump having flipped some significant states. florida he did it, ohio he did it, iowa they did it.

a significant number right there. let's look at also the first time voters. look at these numbers. 56% went for clinton, 40 for trump, two for johnson, one for stein but we should note for the first-time voters, that was about 10% of all of the votes that we got with our nbc exit polling. full 10%. you'd think it might have been gr greater given where trump is. also, you look at the m this one? there we go? it listened to me. the millennial vote, 55% clinton, 25% tradition. >> so, again, surprising given that we're seen -- able to

election. i'll be back with a cleaner map for you. >> alex, i think it's great. the millennial numbers are fascinating because that was a key point in this race. we'll come back to you at this hour. what we're going to do up next is take you live to some of the swing states around the nation. hear the latest nations from the ground as everyone is processing. also, we're going to like at several news. massachusetts and california

for those who have chosen not to support me in the past, of which there were a few people, for your guidance and help so we can unify our great country. >> that was donald trump in his victory speech. according to his campaign manager, kellyanne conway, one of them called him. president obama called president-elect trump. what they discussed, we don't

people will soon wake up to trump press-elect. here's "usa today", trump's strength leads to election stunner. how is the news playing out in the field? we have nbc news correspondents in several battleground states that matter. maria in florida, and steve patterson in wayne, pennsylvania, one be of the biggest shockers. i mariana. there was a lot of talk about the role of latinos and immigrant populations. what are you finding? >> ari, good morning to you. i'm here at the tale end of a watch party in miami. latino families have not slept. donald trump is the new president-elect. yesterday it was the surge by latinos in early voting across

the conversation here quickly changed to what now? will donald trump deliver on his immigration. kaye, you are 15 years old. your parents were deported. what do you want donald trump supporters and donald trump himself to know about people like you and your family. >> well, i'm an american citizen so i want donald trump himself and his supporters to know that i have every right like them. i have a right to have my mom. i have a right to go to the bark and play ball. the american citizens should know that foundations are there to help. >> thank you, kaye. that foundation at the watch

raymond, you voted for secretary clinton. you've been fighting for immigration reform for decades. the outcome was not the one you wanted. your reaction this morning, sir? >> well, i can't wrap my mind around what happened tonight because we had a promise from mrs. clinton that was clear. she wanted to have these families united. need to tell him we need to open up a dialogue. he has a family. he has children. he has a wife that is from another country. she's an immigrant, you know? we really like to -- when he said that he wanted to work with, you know, everybody, he's open to an open dialogue, and we need to talk to him about these children. we need to tell him that these children are suffering and we need to fix this. >> thank you so much.

us today. some of the concerns by the latino community. we talked about the record latino turnout. it wasn't enough. this is a new reality they are grappling with this morning. >> thank you, marianna. i want to go to morgan wrathford in charlotte, north carolina. what are you hearing? >> reporter: ari, there's mixed reaction. trump took the stage just after 11:00 p.m. last night. it was called. he won 51% of the vote. hillary clinton gaining 47% of the vote. ari, here in north carolina the numbers we're seeing reflecting sort of what we're seeing nationally in terms of demographics. for example, trump polled higher among white men, americans, those without a college degree. hillary clinton, she pulled

minorities. there are local politics here and especially when the bathroom bill became such a hot bed issue. take a listen to what both of those governor possibly elect had to say. take a listen. >> first of all, i need to congratulate donald trump for good friend mike pence who just called me. >> confident that these results will be certified and that they will confirm victory! thank you very much. >> reporter: well, given how divisive the political climate has been here in north carolina, the people i've spoken with say they're not entirely confident the state can come together

argument. >> i wanted to go to steve patterson, we saved the most unexpected for the last. this was a shock wave across the country. they all thought it was just talk when the trump folks said that was one of their paths. it was their path. what are you hearing? >> absolutely shocking, ari. we're in a diner. all people including r strategists, clinton's ground game was so much stronger than donald trump's in the ground game. particularly in areas where she was supposed to do so well. these are the four counties that surround suburban. dell care county, montgomery county, bucks county, chester county. she wanted those counties. she swept those counties. not only that, pittsburgh and philadelphia solidly blue. i think she didn't account for

particularly here in the middle of the state. we're at a diner. we have emmy, a clinton supporter. how are you feeling this morning? >> i'm very scared. i was sick when i found out trump won. i'm scared. i'm scared that the u.n.'s going to drop us out. i am scared about nuclear war. i'm scared about warfare within our own country and i'm not sure that he's particularly ready for the political position. >> reporter: do you think there is a chance to rally around? he is our president-elect at this point now. do you give your support to him? >> bernie sanders. >> you were a bernie voter? >> yes. >> were you disappointed when clinton was the nominee? >> it was okay. it's one of those things where it's one or the other. actually, i was very disappointed because i chose bernie. i feel that us as voters are

electoral college. we need to be back in tune to match. >> not being listened to is a big part of this. pat toomey, the republican senator held the seat. that's another win for republicans in pennsylvania. back to you. >> steve patterson, thank you very much. donald trump has been named the story. in florida, for example, look at this. 88% went for clinton over trump. hispanics, 63% went for clinton. 29% did vote for trump. why didn't more minority voters makes a difference? how does this victory affect people who feel donald trump

here. >> good to be here. for a lot of people they're scared. hate crimes have gone up because of this campaign. if he governs the way he ran, it will continue to go up. we saw a black church burn. it's basic instability. white basketball teams chanting build the wall. i resistance begins now. the organizing begins now. 2018 gichks now. 2020 begins now. in fighting back against a president who has made it clear he doesn't respect much of the country. muslims, latinos, black voters and then you throw in women. >> there's no response from any particular community, but what

who are in the civil rights community or in the african-american community in the united states. people say, well, it's time to unite or appeal to unity because you have a candidate who by his own estimation and his own words wasn't running on unity. he was running on restoring america. make america great again to a certain time period and very clearly saying he was going to stand up against latinos, stand certain elements of urban america. >> i think it's clear, the black community was monolithically against him. i think probably more than 90% nationally. the reality is that most of america is -- falls into the

while apparently many did vote for him, i think that he will find it hard -- he will find it increasingly hard to govern -- to win a second presidency without relying, quite frankly, on voter suppression. every trend in our country is against what he represents. this will go down in history, whether it's 10 years from now or 50 years from now as one of the death throws of frankly the old white majority approach to governing in our country. >> what does it say to you that barack obama's presidency will be followed up by a birder in chief. >> they're saying other republicans who were afraid to grab it, i am the one who will

what does that say to you about the historical arc we're on? >> it says for every action, there is a equal and opposite reaction. we will go through a dark period. like i said, the resistance becomes now and a better future for our children. we will have toov order to get to that better future for our kids. >> last question before we go. you look at your former group, the membership will go up, nation wagon magazine subscriptions will go up. msnbc viewership will go up. this is the most overtly racist president.

presidents. >> in any -- none of us can remember him. so the realities is they're looking for the naacp to provide it. again, the resistance against now. >> ben jealous, former president of the naacp thank you for >> appreciate it. >> the latest exit poll and seeing how it breaks down, how women turned out and what they might be thinking about a trump presidency. our live coverage continues

live election coverage, one group that came out in fofrs was college voters. >> big time. michigan, let's take a look at that. tremendous difference between the last couple of elections. michigan. we haven't called it completely. we don't know if it's in the red or blue column. 37% for trump, 38 for clinton. wayne county, detroit, has yet to be fully counted. it still looks like trump will take michigan. 2012, let's hope this is that. there we go. again there was a discrepancy. this time we have trump taking

come back into it. that was for 20 electoral votes. we're waiting on those specifically. we hope this is pennsylvania. it is, indeed. the big cities. this is where hillary clinton has been ahead, harrisburg, pitt pittsburgh, philadelphia. she has taken that area. look at the rural voters. came out en masse. 71% to 26%. as we take a look at the last go round in 2012, romney won. the discrepancy between the two, melania was there as well in the burbs. that's the latest with those two states. >> absolutely. that's clearly what made the difference in some of these states, thank you very much. you now that the american voters have spoken and selected president-elect donald trump to take over the white house, there

make it. he released a special list of conservative judges. what bearing will that have on roe v. wade. we have two guests back with us. victoria, there is a theory that among the other things that happened at the end of this race, the unusual iti models started to shift as boast campaigns hustled to places like pennsylvania and michigan. conservatives talking about the supreme court whether they like donald trump or not. the import of that. your view on whether that was a key factor. >> i think you had a number of republicans living in texas, i

republicans who were bush style candidates. i'm going to put a dozen clothespins on and i'm going to go into the ballot box. the other big factor is we need to have a come to jesus method about the polling. all of our polling was wrong. we need to figure out what are we missing with our technology? i think that together with what we underestimated as the strength of republican voters who don't like trump. >> let me push you on that. you raise an interesting point but i think your premise is that we need accurate polling so we can predict the outcome in advance. a counter argument would be for most of history we didn't have

maybe what we've learned over the last two days, you should throw the polls out the window, pay less attention to them and see what the voters decide. >> i'll admit it. i came up with the golden age of polling. i think that is a valid point, ari. i was going to say i'm going to go to bed with that. i'm going to stay up the rest of the morning thinking about that because at the end of the day what the american people want. the american people spoke very clearly tonight, whether you like it or not. >> david? >> well, i think when it comes to polling, that's not a problem the democrats had. they got out there and organized their vote. the polls show us where we came up short. now with the supreme court, what are the ramifications?

govern? liberals didn't like it when he became president in 1980. he brought in don regan and james baker. these were establishment type of republicans. liberals didn't like the policies but they realized they were experts in the field. donald trump doesn't have a long attention span, doesn't care about details with policies. he's giuliani and newt gingrich making up the core of his cabinet. they are not great counters to the deficits that donald trump has. >> david, you're raising the question will he form a cabinet and bureaucracy in his own image. >> or will he work with the existing public establishment in washington and actually accept some of their recommendations on who knows something about policy matters. this is an establishment that he has been at odds with.

trump, he's a very vengeful guy. i screw people who screw me, i screw them ten times over. will he be able to make amends? it takes a lot to run the federal government. you can't do it with the people on his small team. >> victoria, let me come back to you. doesn't this come to the question of which donald trump are we going to get? is it on the muslim band? then he said i'm going to build a new wall but then had his aides saying, maybe it's a cyber wall. for a guy who denounces politically correct speech, he has moved around. which one do we get? >> which donald trump is going to move into the white house? i am going to be an optomist.

gave the speech tonight. that is my hope. but i'm not going to hold my breath on that. >> well, look, i'll be interested to watch. donald trump who is disagreeing in essence with what he ran on which was lock her up. that's what they ran on. we should jail our political oppo opponents. one speech doesn't unwind a year campaign. we will find out. than campaigning. thank you for joining us tonight and this morning i should say. up next, after a closely fought election, how will the next president govern in our divided country? >> two years ago president obama made a little noticed comment. he was talking about 2016 and who might succeed him and he said, you know, it may be impossible for me to pass along

successor, he said. the people may want that new car smell. that was the term being used. i don't think he was thinking about this, but if you look through america that has gone

good morning. welcome back. we have chris and katie. she's a trump critic along the way. we have something brand new. this is kellyanne conway, trump's third and victorious campaign manager. she spoke to our katie tur about this concession call that hillary clinton made. it must have been painful and personal as well as hillary clinton's plan to speak later today. take a listen.

huma called me. i handed the phone to mr. trump. i commend her. >> you took a lot of heat for the idea that donald trump wasn't going to concede graciously. premature. do you feel like hillary clinton needs to come out and address the american public and do what she said donald trump should have done. >> that's something i do find the irony delicious. >> should we expect to see donald trump -- >> does he have something to say? >> did they have a phone conversation. on the stage. >> should we expect to see the same donald trump on the stage tonight. >> that's the donald trump that apparently a million plus voters saw. >> what about those who didn't vote for him though, how is he going to reach out to latinos, african-american, those that might have been offended by -- those that were offended, still bothered by birtherism. >> he said tonight he's going to be president for all-americans including those who didn't vote for him.

we don't put people in monolithic boxes the way you did. you got a fair number of african-american votes tonight. he'll be the president of all people. that's what his message was all night. that's the message i heard during his campaign. we hope we can work with president obama and secretary clinton and we know we can. >> kellyanne conway speaking now. you look at that and you look at th mind? >> this is a campaign that's clearly relishing the moment that they're living in. i think part of the reason why i think everyone is stunned is to some extent i think they didn't think based on the public polling that they had a path. clearly i think everyone missed it. i think that to me is the big take away is tonight. the democratic party, what did we miss so badly, particularly the pollsters in some of these key states that are

pennsylvania, wisconsin? and i think that is, i think, the key thing. whatever is going to happen over the next few weeks, i get it. my focus is what did we learn so this doesn't happen again four years down the road. i think we've got to be really honest about the mistakes that were made and the changes that have to be made. >> are you speaking as a democrat and a member of the professional political >> both. i think as consultants we have to be honest about when things go wrong, and clearly there is something fundamentally wrong in polling. and i've seen this too long and too often in too many races where too many pollsters make excuses why their models were wrong. they're not honest or straightforward that there are assumptions that go into the models. when those assumptions are off, you can have a very different outcome. >> katie, when people wake up

he ran a different kind of campaign, cheaper, unconventional, that the establishment didn't see coming and he won and he shocked the world. then in the general everyone said, well, he'll lose, it looks like, because of the way traditional campaigns work. here he did it over. they really are having the last laugh. >> the trump campaign certainly has a lot to be proud of tonight. donald trump has a lot to be proud of because he, you know, sort of ran his own race and put the blinders on and was off. notion that the pollsters didn't see it coming in the primary. the pollsters mostly did anticipate that he was going to win. >> sure. >> he led very early on. >> but republicans didn't know how to counter him. >> absolutely. there are a lot of reasons why he won the primary that we don't need to go back into now.

seen hillary clinton under perform. and seen donald trump blow her out of the water. >> and see him rise. >> you've been watching our special good morning election coverage. i'm ari melburg. that does it for our show. i want you to keep it locked right here.

hello, everyone, i'm alex witt here at msnbc headquarters in new york. >> and i'm ali velshi. donald trump is elected president of the united states. trump winning critical states like ohio, florida, and north carolina. >> all republicans and democrats and independents across this nation, i say, it is time for us to come together as one united it's time. >> at clinton's gathering tonight in new york city, stunned disbelief. the candidate herself not appearing in public. she is, though, expected to speak later on today. >> trump will take office with one very important asset, his fellow republicans contain control of both houses of

>> in one of the most shocking u.s. elections in modern political history, donald trump overcame all the odds and defeated hillary clinton. as the 45th president-elect, trump promised unity after a dark, tumultuous race for the white house. >> we must reclaim our country's and daring. we have to do that. we're going to dream of things for our country, and beautiful things, and successful things once again. i want to tell the world community that while we'll always put america's interests first, we'll deal fairly with everyone, with everyone. all people and all other

hostility. partnership, not conflict. >> joining us now from trump tower in new york is jacob rascon. it is now president-elect donald trump. what's the scene where you are? >> reporter: we haven't gone to bed just yet. we just walked over to trump tower. in front of trump tower we see a crowd of a couple dozen trump supporters with their signs. this is no less than an even members of his staff at that victory party told me none of us really believed this would happen. of course, that's not entirely true. there were other aides who did say they did believe this would happen. and, of course, there are his supporters. i've talked to hundreds, if not thousands of them over the months, and if you spend time listening to these people, you will find that what they feel,

washington, is very real, is very widespread, and we saw that tonight with such a big wave of support for donald trump, unlike anything that the polls were predicting. and, of course, they are celebrating something that they believe is a sound defeat for the political class, the media, and all of that, but tonight when we heard from donald trump, we heard a different donald trump, there was no drain the swamp, lock her up. no rigged system talk. it was a v president-elect trump. take a listen. >> hillary has worked very long and very hard over a long period of time, and we owe her a major debt of gratitude for her service to our country. for those who have chosen not to support me in the past, of which there were a few people, i'm reaching out to you for your

we can work together and unify our great country. >> it was only just over 24 hours ago that he was saying that hillary clinton was the most corrupt politician that had ever run for office, that she shouldn't have been allowed to run, and now he is praising her for a hard fought campaign. we saw something similar to this during the primaries when he lambasted and eviscerated his rivals, but then once he them, he was nicer to them. that appears to be what he's doing now, and as i asked different trump aides and trump staff, this looks like a different donald trump. they said, well, this is president-elect donald trump. the big question, of course, can donald trump keep this up. is this what his plan was like the primaries to beat his opponent and then to be a little nicer. of course, only time will tell that, but he's gone from the golden escalator inside trump

over there and i know it's not much of a distance from where the party was. i hope you're not going to walk around manhattan at this point. you get to go home and go to bed at some point? nice night of reporting from you, jacob. >> reporter: i'm not sure about that. after some live shots this morning, later this afternoon we'll get a nap i'm sure. >> good to talk to you, jacob rascon. >> good for an all-nighter. >> this has been an all night for a lot of people in this country. >> another two joining us now the conversation, former governor howard dean, rick tyler, all right, governor, i'll reach out to you first here. as you think about this, what are the most salient points, how did we get here, how did trump pull this off? >> well, you know, this is a lot like brexit on the other side of the atlantic. there are a lot of angry people left behind by globalization.

they wanted change and they got it. you know, as far as i'm concerned, this is, obviously, not the kind of change i wanted, but on the other hand you have to hand it to democracy. this is the peaceful transfer of power and doesn't always get transferred to the people you want it to be transferred to. >> rick, you know, this is much bigger than a repudiation of hillary clinton, this is a repudiation of an establishment of a lot of things. you also had a message on the outside. what does this tell you? what does what happened tonig about the shape we're in and the republican party? >> people really wanted change and people say how much worse can it get, and they decided that hillary clinton in many ways was representative of the status quo, the continuation of the obama administration, and the question was whether people were going to accept the status quo, which they didn't want, or go for change but uncertain, unknown, and what hillary tried to say was scary change. they decided to blow it up.

washington, enough of politicians, it's historic, it's a remarkable achievement. it's the first time a president who does not come from either military background or political background has made it to the white house. never happened before. >> yeah. governor, i want to look at some exit polls, and we do have some solid numbers there that said all the polls from the last 18 months. not so much. there should be some explanation of that, but the exit polls show trump did better with women trump won by 19 points there. is that a shock to you? >> it is a shock. do you have that number divided by education? >> do not have that yet. we do know that a lot of the without college degree voters, certainly the white males, those went to donald trump, but we don't have this broken down yet. >> yeah. it's hard to talk about the polls when you don't know what the cross tabs are. i think it's safe to say that the polling establishment has

right and they, obviously, didn't get the election right either. >> but women in general, sir, when you think about the rhetoric that donald trump used and the controversies that he faced with women throughout, now we are seeing these key groups, i don't know if you can see it where you are, conservative women, white women, white protestant women and white women 45 to 64. so femes you surprised? >> well, again, without knowing what the cross tabs, i'd be shocked if women with college educations voted for trump, but, you know, again, we're talking about something we don't know what we're talking about here. these numbers are very nice, but they are meaningless without looking at the cross tabs. >> rick, let me ask you something about the candidate. now we're talking about president-elect trump, he's got to be thinking about this. we heard talk about rudy

for ted cruz, will he be looking to some of his opponents in the race, what's he have to do to build a cabinet? >> this is what everybody is waiting for. we saw a taste of what a president-elect donald trump looks like. most people have to say they like that donald trump, that he seemed -- >> his speech, his acceptance speech was a different tone. >> he was magnanimous, he was unite the country, but we've heard a lot of things from donald trump. if he can truly do that, but it's a lot of work. this country is seriously divided and you can see, but donald trump is very successful. if you look at, say, eastern ohio, he's winning that. look, all over the map he's winning places that obama won. wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania. >> but ted cruz was still the biggest thorn in his side until he got the nomination.

>> take donald trump at his word, he'll be inside the tent and he had endorsed him ultimately and so we'll see. i don't know if ted cruz would be interested in a cabinet position or not. that would be up to him. he's up for re-election now in this new cycle we'll start talking about very, very quickly, which will be a big advantage to republicans, because democrats -- republicans are only defending eight senate seats this time and the democrats are defending 30 so it looks very good for the republican future right now. >> already prognosticating about the 2018 election. >> how about that? >> governor, i want to ask you about hillary clinton. you know her very well. what role does she play going forward? does she go the way of al gore, depart politics, pick up some sort of cause like the environment? what do you think she will do next? what should she do next?

concession speech some time tomorrow? >> i don't know the answer to that. only she could know the answer to that. you know, i lost one of these, but i didn't get nearly as far as she did. this has been a lifetime of work for her to try to become the first woman president, so i think she's going to think about this for a while before she makes a decision. i have no idea what she's going to do. >> rick, let me ask you, i'm a money guy. this morning i'm very concentrated on what's going on in the markets, people, the markets come back quickly, don't spend too much time on it. president-elect trump says he wants to repeal obamacare and do something with the supreme court. does he really do all these things? they always promise they are doing something in the first 100 days. >> the base of the party expects him to do something for the supreme court. people who voted for trump said that was one of their most important or extremely important issues on the economy. we'll have to see. remember, all these things on

now we've got a republican congress, so we'll see how quickly they can move on these things. obamacare, for as much as people said he's covered people, people aren't using the insurance, because again, it's so horrifically expensive. >> taking away the 20 million people that don't have coverage. is he going to fix it? >> i don't know. there's a lot of people, so gingrich has been around him, gingrich is for a free market model, because free market seems to work everywhere el model. we've tried the government model, tried the halfway government model, so that's going to be a real challenge, but that's going to require you have very good relations with the republican congress and can they move together? but they have to win an argument with the country first. >> governor, you're a doctor. looks like the referendum on obamacare is that people don't seem to be -- they seem to be

people that like obamacare to argue that trump does? >> the big thing is pre-existing conditions. if he's going to repeal obamacare and people are going to be denied health care because they had high blood pressure or cancer, that's not going to go well. this is like the brexit vote. people did this because they wanted to kick the table over and haven't thought about the consequences yet. i thought james was interesting in the previous interview talking about the huge amount he's going to add to the on infrastructure. that's going to stimulate the infrastructure, but insthat's a problem. if he gives tax cuts, that's going to alienate people who voted for him, because they believe they got screwed by the existing economic situation, which benefits those at the top. we don't know what donald trump's going to do, because he's changed his position 97 times.

can find common ground with him. one thing i'm glad we have still a filibuster proof minority in chuck schumer, who's one of the toughest negotiators in congress and very smart, is going to be the minority leader and he's going to have to work with chuck schumer and chuck schumer will work with him, and i think that's what we should do for the sake of the country, but you have to find common ground. we're not going to give on core principles like human rights for everybody and like making sure and i think rewriting the tax code to benefit the top is exactly what we don't need and hopefully we won't do that. >> all right, governor howard dean, thank you so much for your time. thank you, gentlemen. >> thank you. coming up, reaction from the global markets after news of donald trump's win. what voters should expect when u.s. markets open later this morning. >> we have a great economic plan. we will double our growth and

anywhere in the world. at the same time, we will get along with all other nations

we are going to fix our inner cities and rebuild our highways, bridges, tunnels, airports, schools, hospitals. we're going to rebuild our

second to none. >> keep that in mind. we're going to talk about infrastructure. in about four hours the u.s. stock markets will open, but the global markets were very quick to respond to donald trump's defeat of hillary clinton sinking in anticipation of a trump presidency. i want to bring in kenny palkari, the director of o'neal securities, an old friend of ours. you and i were together at the new york stock exchange thinking and possibilities. this was an outlier in terms of possibilities, but japan, the stocks sunk. when this news came out, the nikkei was way down. then as european markets opened, they were down less, and now we're going to see a lower open at the new york stock exchange, right? >> right, but not nearly what it was. at one point futures were down 5%. they were just bumping at the limit, so, therefore -- >> 600 or 700 points at the open. >> probably closer to 1,000

was so unexpected, and i think at that point when that was happening he was so far in the lead that it almost looked like she was going to be able to catch up, so that made it even worse, looked like it was potentially going to be a landslide. when she started to catch up and it got tighter, that's when you saw the futures back off a little bit and rally. >> it's not gone. let's put up a list. these are my five reasons why the market is going to go down. number expect trump to win. markets don't like things they don't expect. >> that's exactly right. not about is it good news or bad news, it's about the expectation the market has. this was clearly not the expectation. >> trade talk. there are people that worry the wall, the trade, all this kind of stuff, we are a nation of traders. >> right. do i really think -- in the end i don't think he's going to get half done what he said. he talked a big game during the campaign. >> ripping up trade deals.

work that way. we don't know that yet, but i saw a different, you know, in his speech last night i saw kind of a different trump. maybe he was exhausted, it was 3:00 in the morning, but i don't get the sense it's going to be nearly that fight. >> rust belt states with that talk. >> yes. >> that talk of i'm going to help get your jobs back. >> if ford motor goes to mexico he's charging 35%. that potentially could happen, but the mexican futes morning as i was coming in. our futures were down. mexico was up. >> that's interesting. that's interesting. we were showing a poll that shows the economy continues to be the most important issue. they broke for hillary clinton by a bit. the third reason on my list is something you and i did discuss. markets like divided governments. they like when the white house -- >> the balance. >> the checks and balances. >> exactly right. in fact, although it was really republican sweep in the senate they don't have enough control

still some balance in the senate, although you can argue that this was, you know, if you're going to vote for trump, if you had a sense i'm going for trump, i'm going all-out right down the line. how could you vote for trump and start to vote for someone in the opposite party? if you decided, you decided, and i think that's clearly what happened. >> the final two points are joined. that is trump says that his policies are going to be so great that he's going to have 4, 5, 6% gdp dean says, if he doesn't, and that's hard to get, it increases debt. if he gets 6% growth, which we haven't seen in decades, you know, 6% growth is in india territory. >> that's right. real growth for us should be somewhere in the 3% to 4% range consistent. >> you might get it in a spurt. >> in a spurt, but not for a consistent period of time. steady 3% to 4% is where we've

should aim for. you're right, if he starts spending all kind of money he's correct, he's going to blow the budget. >> even tonight in his victory speech, i'm going to grow the economy, i'm going to double the economy. he's not explained how he does that. is it even possible? >> listen, at the moment our economy's running just up 2% growth. if he doubles it, we're 4. 4 is in the range we've been, so that's not really so much a stretch, but if he aims for more than that or thinks he can do more than that, that's when it co they do with this? how will this affect the average guy out there? >> here's what you should do if you're somebody not in this market but have 401(k), savings elsewhere, do not panic. this is the last thing you should do, pick up the phone and call your broker and say sell everything. >> lock in your loss. >> >> don't do that. look what happened in brexit in june. we had the 5% move down, global markets, then v shape right back

higher today than it was when the brexit happened. >> one month after 9/11 before those markets -- >> only thing i would suggest if you're somebody who's a long-term investor, take advantage. the funniest part of it, stocks will go on sale this morning. you run in and buy clothes, you don't go to sell, you buy them. when stocks are on sale, people get nervous and start to sell. exactly the wrong thing they should be doing. >> good point. >> doesn't seem like >> have a little coffee there? >> i've had none yet. >> always a pleasure to see you. thank you for extending the conversation we had on the floor of the stock exchange into this morning. i'll see you back down there later today. coming up next, the voice of the voters. many unhappy with the choices they had in this year's election. >> like they say, hillary is corrupt, there's no question about that, and trump is crazy.

so it's tough to actually vote for either one of them. >> and among the several propositions on the ballot, voters in massachusetts and

i was praying. praying that i would trade my soul for my grandchildren's future. >> a latino voter there in florida upset about the results of tuesday's election on this unbelievable night for at least half across the country. trump's win came down to the all-important battleground states and he practically swept them. we have two correspondents covering the battlegrounds.

>> reporter: good morning. 51% to 47%. that's the margin by which donald trump took the state of north carolina and it was called just after 11:00 p.m. last night and what we're seeing in terms of the breakdown of the numbers, very similar to the demographic shift we saw happen nationally. for example, trump tended to take the older white male voters who were living in rural areas here in north carolina, whereas clinton tended to turn out the democrats who were minorities living in urban areas like here in mecklenburg county, again, we're at a diner in charlotte, but people waiting up all night to see the results. take a listen to what they thought after they announced president-elect donald trump. >> he has this kind of, like, personality lthat's, like, all about him. he doesn't care about what other people think. that's what i've gotten from this whole election process. >> i feel he doesn't have

since he has daughters and a wife, i don't think, like, he comprehends what he says what younger generations are going to grow up seeing. he doesn't respect that. >> i voted for trump, but that's all i can say. >> the guy you wanted to win won. you're feeling good today. >> yeah, i feel good. >> rr: people we've been speaking to here on the ground in north carolina say they are not entirely confident that the state can, in fact, come together after this decision because of just how divisive it was on both sides. we're feeling strong emotions here in the what was a battleground state of north carolina. back to you. >> morgan, thanks very much for that. steve, what are voters telling you this morning? >> reporter: well, ali, it's been about 24 hours since we last spoke, i haven't slept since then, but hot off the

wins. yeah, just came out. so we're seeing now, you know, what we talked about about 24 hours ago, those collared counties, bucks, montgomery, chester, these counties tend to go and they are tend to be taken by the presidential candidate who sweeps the state, so generally if you win these four counties outside of suburban philadelphia, you typically since 1980, you win the state. clinton won the counties. philadelphia, she wins those counties, she wins basically the edges of pennsylvania, but she still loses. i think a lot of republican strategists and people here are saying she did not account for what the county and the country went through with this revolution that donald trump seized on. and so we're just talking to people here at a diner, it's about 5:30 in the morning, talking to folks. sir, peter erskin, how do you

>> reporter: do you feel -- were you in support, were you happy donald trump won? >> i was in support of the democratic process and i will certainly be able to listen to what mr. trump has to say. i certainly hope he modifies some of his approaches to public speaking when he gets to the white house. he's pretty coarse sometimes. >> reporter: it's just the public speaking that upsets you, not the rhetoric about deportation, the wall, women? >> he was harsh on pretty harsh on women. i think certain -- a lot of us feel the idea of having a legal means to get to citizenship is a good thing. question is, how do you do that without getting rid of everybody, as he said he wanted to do, deport everybody who was an illegal alien. that's pretty hard if there's 11 million. i don't see how you're going to do that. >> reporter: very hard. do you think he has the temperament to bring this

a brief clip this morning when i woke up from his acceptance speech in new york, and he certainly had a different tone, but you know, whether that will last as he gets into a position of power and whether he really will modify his approach to the other side and allow the what will now be a loyal democratic po >> whether he will modify his speech and listen to them, that's a question. >> reporter: we shall see, thank you, sir, appreciate it. also pat toomey, republican senator, held his seat. that's another big victory for the republicans in this state and country. back to you. >> steve, when we talked yesterday, i spent a lot of my time in montgomery county. generally, montgomery county, philadelphia, which hillary clinton took by a landslide, erie county, and pittsburgh,

it was a real mystery to a lot of people in pennsylvania how she lost pennsylvania. >> reporter: it does, and talking to the folks and even republican strategists on the ground here, they would admit that clinton's ground game was significantly stronger than donald trump's ground game. when we were here two days ago, we saw people canvassing for clinton. and the fact that bore out, so this is really a unique situation. again, we haven't seen a win like this since the '80s. >> steve, thanks a million thanks also to morgan radford. just yesterday the headline was an uptick in latino turnout. today the headline, regardless of that turnout, the country just elected donald trump as president. 65% of hispanic voters chose hillary clinton. 88% of this year's african-american voters chose hillary clinton. but donald trump was supported overwhelmingly by white voters with no college degree. that's a lot of divides to deal with. with all those divides, can this

joining us now, msnbc contributor josh barro, paul reyes. tell her how many hours i've been up. >> he was with me yesterday morning at this time. >> 27th hour here or something, sorry about that, raul, and kate martell in d.c. got that part right. >> for anyone offended by the term used by our guest of steve paterson, he talked about illegal vernacular we use. that having been said, let's talk about the victory speech, guys, because trump called for everybody to come together in this country, yet given the things he said, many minority voters out there, they voted for clinton. they are generally fearful what comes next for them. raul, your reaction to that. >> looking at the speech, to me personally, he struck me, like many of us, he's tired, to use

he was somewhat subdued and definitely stayed on his teleprompter. that's fine. and i heard some of the different people who voted for him saying, well, maybe he will be a different person from what we saw at certain stages of the campaign, but you have to remember, this is an election, as we talk about it in the abstract and we're debating certain policies, whatever, this is an election that is so deeply and intensely personal to latinos. two-thirds of american latinos know someone who's undocumented. community in the sense that, number one, right now in families you have huge arguments with parents and grandparents telling their young people you should never have signed up for that daca because now the government has our address and you have families with mixed status where the parents are undocumented and the children are citizens truly in fear. it is a question mark what trump is going to do if he's going to build that wall, who and when -- >> he'll split up families,

even though we might hope it to be a certain way or play out that way, right now i tell you, so many latinos home, this is devastating, absolutely devastating. >> kate, i was spending my night looking at markets, but i was also keeping one eye on social media and the whole concept of fear and, you know, worry about what america is going to look like now, are we really two tribes, them and us, whatever you happen to think them is and whatever us is? how do we come together when you see the numbers thate looked at about how people voted? >> that's exactly the question, and those numbers are startling, the fact that the country has become so polarized at this point. now what's going to be interesting to see, can he bring the numbers back and how can he bring the country together? the way he's going to do it, i'm going to be interested to see who he brings into his cabinet. is he going to have a newt gingrich secretary of state, rudy giuliani, or is he going to bring in some democrats, is he going to try to do this?

white house, but the house and the senate and the way they can start to get some of these through. it's going to be really tough to get immigration through, but you know they are going to try. it's going to be really interesting how can they bring it together and donald trump, i will say, he had a good speech. it was not polarizing compared to the past week, it was hand up in the air, provocative, the old donald trump we saw in the primary. this was a very much more presidential. so we might see, like you were just saying, a more forward republican or is he going to be like he was in the campaign trail and continue to be polarizing? >> it may be he understands the gravity of what has just happened. i mean, the rhetoric he's put out there, you're shaking your head, you don't think so. >> it's never been the case donald trump is incapable of being gracious. he just won, why should he be mad at anybody? he doesn't need to attack hillary clinton anymore, but the

opposition. >> and insults. >> yeah. i hold very little hope he's going to deal well with that. we've seen him right now under the least pressure we'll see him under over the next four years. >> going to be gracious -- >> this man's 70 years old, we know what his personality and temperament is like. it's not going to be an easy ride. >> excuse me. think about this when we're talking, trying to project what we hope trump will be. we saw this summer when he went after a very d mexican-american, blatantly saying things that were blatantly bigoted, racist statements. >> and false. >> we saw him threatening to use the power of the executive branch to lock up hillary clinton. this is something we heard of, he would open an investigation into her and lock her up, so this is a man -- and i spoke this week with the president of one of our national bar associations. they say they are very fearful of having a chief executive who

government. >> thanks very much for that. i was trying to help out by calling you paul, help you fit in. >> long day. >> josh and kate, thanks to both of you, as well. coming up next, republicans are keeping control of congress, what's that mean to the conservative agenda? does speaker paul ryan end up with more power or less? first, how news organizations around the world are reporting the election. this headline "trump stuns world." this reminder, special edition of "morning joe" is coming up at the top of the hour with a studio audience. you don't want to miss it. >> "snl" studio.

both the house and the senate will remain in republican control after a political stunner, donald trump winning the presidency. and at this hour in the senate, democrats hold 45 seats compared to republicans 51. democrats picked up one seat in illinois after republican senator mark kirk lost to duckworth. in nevada, the first latina elected to the upper chamber of congress, this after defeating congressman joe heck. she'll fill the seat of harry reid, the democratic minority leader, who is retiring after a full three decades in the senate. joining me now, elise jordan, nbc news and msnbc political analyst and colleen john pierre, i said that right, right?

this is all going to work with donald trump overseeing congress, talking with them, working with republicans, who ran in the opposite direction screaming from him. how does this work? paul ryan. >> well, the first thing i would say is that with donald trump, none of us should expect to know anything that's going -- >> we're asking a lot of questions today. >> at the end of the day, i really think that donald trump's ideology leans more democratic. he was a democrat for most of his life. republicans were saying that if donald trump lost, this was going to be a referendum that we didn't nominate a true conservative. next go around in 2020 we'd have to nominate a true conservative. well donald trump won, what's that say? >> ted cruz's argument. >> exactly, that's what people were looking for going forward, so i do think it's going to be interesting how the party ideologues navigate donald trump, who really most of his

medicine. it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out. >> and so there's two constituencies, right? how's he navigate the republicans in congress and how does he navigate the democrats in congress. >> i got to tell you, i'm still in shock and i'm processing the whole thing, because what we saw from donald trump during the primary was trumpism that was incredibly hateful and divisive, so i'm curious, it's a big unknown as to how will he talked about the democrats and bringing them together in his speech, but i got to tell you, i'm concerned and worried. i do want to say that we had another historical win in california, pamela harris, second african-american woman -- >> all of these things got sidelined. there were interesting ballot measures and people, but the world is concentrated on one thing and one thing only, donald trump. >> and it's a shocker.

shocking and i think we're all still processing. >> we talk about the things we're concentrating on, domestically a lot of people will be thinking about the health care law. does this get repudiated, taken over? what about nuclear, the arms deal that was negotiated with iran? what happens with that? >> it's the unknown. >> i think that donald trump has made a lot of promises. he promised to throw out the iran deal in his first day in office. >> first day. >> very busy first day. obamacare. those are promises that are going to be hard for him to walk away. building the wall is easier because building a wall is such a process that i think he can push that down the road, down the road. he can do some kind of other immigration reform, perhaps, but who knows. >> my canadian friends say they are building the wall on the northern side. >> their website crash. >> the canadian immigration website crashed. let me ask you this, when we

wasn't expected to hear, he sounded a more conciliatory tone in saying we're not going to do things as democrats we don't want to do, but we're going to try to find common ground. we sort of lost the idea of even looking for common ground in the last few years. >> the thing this election showed us is we are a polarized country, right? we are very much divided, and something needs to be done. and look, the obama coalition that hillary clinton went for doesn't exist barack obama is one of a kind politician who was able to bring that coalition, so democrats really have to, after we grieve, we have to grieve, i feel very bad for our field organizers out there who worked very hard for more than a year to really put this ground game together, that we have to figure out what does our coalition look like. what is the map for democrats, and that's going to be imperative. >> all right, ladies, thank you so much. elise jordan and karine john-pierre. >> loves that. >> french in the morning.

there you have it. anyway, do check this out, donald trump has updated his twitter bio to reflect his new title, there you see it, president-elect of the united states. >> i don't think i updated my bio to say i work here. i'll get on that. the reaction from around the world to the trump victory. a live report from moscow next. and a very special edition of "morning joe" is coming up at the top of the hour. live studio audience. you don't want to miss it right

trump's victory, joining me now from moscow. good day to you, lucy. tell me more about putin's reaction. >> reporter: good morning. it's shock and disbelief across

to adjust to a brave, new, and frankly uncertain world, but here in moscow, guys, donald trump is feeling the love. his election victory comes at a time when u.s.-russian relations are the worst since the end of the cold war. now all that is going to change. that's at least according to president putin, who spoke on live russian television moments ago, and on the streets of moscow. take a look. >> trump is really kind to russia, and for me it's trump is really kind to russia, and for me it's the most important, and i say that donald trump maybe will be good. >> it means a lot, actually. russian people here say about him, like, a friend or something like a partnership with him, because obama, have a bad relationship with russia.

i guess it needs some time for improvement. >> but anyway, the u.s. has its o own, it doesn't depend what kind of president will be. >> reporter: you don't think things would really change under him? >> a little bit. >> reporter: so there you have it, a mix of reactions there. th center on state television. people were paying attention very closely. folks here saw that clinton, they portrayed clinton as someone who would start new wars, would lecture on democracy. they see someone as who will leave russia alone. they think russia will be able to do what it wants in its region. the question is, what will putin's next move be. guys? >> thank you for that. just the beginning of the

in. we'll be right back after this break, and we're going to leave you from a couple of headlines here in the united states about this historic

i just received a call from secretary clinton. she congratulated us. it's about us! congratulated her and her family on a very, very hard fought campaign. >> in a stunning turn of events, america has elected billionaire businessman donald trump as our 45ing president of the united states. a shocking outcome for hillary clinton and her shell shocked supporters who appear to have momentum and polls on their side.