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>> jim: got away. ward coming up. hauschka, after all that practice in the last break. gonna get a chance to come out here and add three more. >> phil: seattle played it exactly how you would expect them to do it. now denver's gonna get basically one minute, maybe second or two more when tkpwhets, when peyton manning gets back on the offensive side. if they make the field goal. >> jim: they'll stop it at 1:04. first touchdown of the game came in the second quarter. 39 yards to lockette.
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seattle defense has held ball to 38 yards and 14 care reus. but the denver defense, safety, interception. >> jim: touchdown toss, shovel pass to julius. then chancellor with the grab. hauschka back in 2010 actually spent four games as the broncos kicker. came to seattle in 2011. he's been a good one. although he missed today. missed from 46. rarity for him. from 28. making it an eight point game. kick is good.
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i asked you several plays ago what's denver's best hope if they can hold them to a feel goal. you said about a minute left on the clock. you were off a second. >> phil: i'm always off somewhat. that's what i have been accused of. >> jim: for those of you expecting to see "60 minutes" you're watching the nfl on cbs. broncos and the seahawks. jim nantz and phil simms and tracy wolfson. "60 minutes" will be seen in its entirely except on the west coast. >> phil: can the seahawks kick it out of the back of the end zone? if they don't, if you're the denver broncos, you take a chance on a return, jim. that maybe is your best chance and best way to get a big play to get you field position and to pick up some easy yards. of course, fork the kicking team, be alert for the throw back, a reverse.
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everybody always has those plays in their return game. >> jim: that's andre caldwell. only had one return opportunity this year. thin air of denver mostly touch backs. one return was a 54 yarder. >> phil: lot of tension in this game. you could feel the tension in the stadium. just the way the game was played. low scoring. makes everybody i think get a little more tense as a coach because you know one play can turn it around and cost you the game. >> jim: seattle had intensity for the entire game back on february 2nd. 43-8. only game in the history of the nfl regular season or post season ever ended on that exact
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score 43-8. interesting from the get go. hauschka five yards through back of the end zone. manning and the broncos will have to go 80 yards with no time-out. find the end zone and convert a two point try to send this game to overtime. that's the goal right now, going against this defense and this environment here in seattle. >> phil: this is a situation for peyton manning. he knows and he's not afraid. not afraid of the numbers. you got to take a chance. throwing it two yards up the middle will not work. one in five chance of completing something down the field. you go for it. >> jim: launching it down the field. tried to kaeufpt on his back.
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there was a collision with both chancellor and burley. couple of players shaken up. >> phil: they had it. watch sanders go out. he's got a little move going. lot of contact. >> jim: burley gets hit by his teammate. seattle charged a time-out. they'll be able to keep him on the field. >> phil: he's gonna come off. that was a good idea at that time. sanders has run a few outside breaking routes. he turned up. and he had it. if manning would just put a touch more. thrown that with a little power,
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they're gonna get a first down, big gain. >> jim: josh thomas in for burley. out of a jam! caught by sanders! >> phil: good job. what happened on the first play happens on the second. peyton manning's moving. same play. what a nice route. good execution. >> jim: spike to stop it at 31. that pass play to sanders went
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for 42. >> phil: second man through the zone. that's what you call it. the rules broke down. maxwell follows thomas inside. that's what sanders was open. >> jim: pass was head his way. would not have been for much of a gain. would have taken a lot of time. they were closing in on him. >> phil: good thing that he fell down. take your time. if it's tackled inbounds you must spike the ball as fast as you can. >> jim: manning.
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demaryious thomas got the feet down. first down after the 12 yard gain. >> phil: to the sideline. good timing. >> jim: inside two minutes, booth reviews. >> phil: both feet down. >> jim: if needed. ball at the 26. >> phil: i would not be surprised to see that play sanders to the right side same play that we saw earlier. >> jim: with 24 seconds to go. manning looking. touchdown! two point conversion away from tying the game! >> phil: really well executed. same thought process that he did earlier. corners are going inside. second guy through is open. that time peyton manning creased it. >> jim: now two-point try. it will tkopl down to this.
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>> phil: here he goes. right there. that's how he gets open. second man through to follow. >> jim: for the tie. manning. looking. back of the end zone. caught to tie the game! demaryius thomas. >> phil: what a play. saw something similar to it the first time they were down there. >> jim: 80 yards in 41 seconds with no time-outs. watch the feet. >> phil: two. he's down. he's inbounds. holds the football. what a job peyton manning, the pass protection.
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>> jim: with sherman right there. thomas hanging out with no room to spare in the back of the end zone. >> phil: you thought they were bringing sanders across the formation to pick. in other words, to get him outside where the defense widened. the fact that they widened allowed an inside move by thomas for him to have that window to catch the football. peyton manning used his height, threw over the top, and finds thomas in the back of the end zone. it was a double edged play. if it was zone, it goes to thomas. feet are definitely in. >> jim: demaryius thomas comes to life in the fourth quarter. no one could find anything that shows evidence otherwise.
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that has tied the game at 20. but they are, of course, still reviewing it. >> phil: jim, let's watch it. here's sanders. if it's man to man, they're gonna pick for him. here's sherman. thomas gonna go out here. it has both things that you want. no matter what they play, you have a chance. sanders is going outside. how ab that double move? watch thomas, 88. picks up the field inside. you all want a receiver down in the end zone. with new england so many year, calvin johnson and thomas that time. it was the play selection and design was unbelievable. >> referee: after reviewing the play, the ruling on the field is confirmed. extra point is good. >> phil: i have done a lot of games here.
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they show this play that we have never seen. i have not seen those -- course, they haven't been in that situation. to have those ready and to bring them out was outstanding. >> jim: 17 points in the fourth quarter. manning has just thrown his 100th touchdown pass as a bronco. 499 now in his career. this game completely turning around on a safety early in the fourth quarter. but to go 80 yard, 41 seconds and no time-out. >> phil: unbelievable. to have those plays because they were not ready for them. listen, i haven't seen that library of plays the broncos have, how big it is. >> jim: percy harvin elects to take a knee with 18 seconds left in regulation. >> phil: they just caught him. corners followed their receiver inside. when they followed inside, who's got the receiver that's in, that goes up the sideline?
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man, that was pretty -- he looked it off. this is a great design play. boy, manning, patience, waits. pete carroll's emotions, jim. >> jim: he doesn't hide them. he's in disbelief, as are nearly 70,000 in seattle. seahawks are going to pitch this ball back to the officials and go to the overtime. >> phil: they did those routes three times. they had a chance all three. they hit two of them. one gave them a chance to go into overtime. i guarantee you as much as you go over, pete carroll has not gone over these type of plays with this defense. >> jim: couple years ago overtime rules were switched around.
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denver played that playoff game against pittsburgh where they won on the 80 yard pass from tebow to thomas. hit six on the first possession to close it out. but peyton's case in overtime, hasn't won an overtime game in ten years. in '04 when the colts won against san diego. >> phil: that's unbelievable. >> referee: good afternoon, gentlemen. we're now in sudden death. modified sudden death overtime. denver, you're still visitors. both teams will have two time-outs. all replays are upstairs. both teams will have an opportunity to possess the ball. unless the first team scores a touchdown. maximum one quarter. any questions? good luck. called tails.
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>> jim: fourth quarter start. seattle leading 17-3. see this more than anybody. six overtime games. used to be divisional opponents in the afc west. twice a year for a number of years. there's harvin. have a chance to do what he did the second half back in new jersey. not gonna be. they'll start at the 20. >> phil: i all wonder about this, jim. if you win the coin toss, do you kick off? kick a field goal then you know what you have to do. you get that extra down. can't take that chance. other team scores a touchdown, you're in trouble. it ended after a play. with a denver 80 yard touchdown.
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three years ago. first down. gain of 11. how many times have we seen that today? that play? >> phil: with denver's people. fake it, roll right, throw it underneath. seattle gonna go with the hurry up offense to get it moving, get their momentum. >> jim: throws. incomplete. defended by moore. thrown to baldwin. did you think at the start of
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the fourth quarter we had a game destined to overtime? about 17-5? could you think we'd see an overtime game. hauschka is going through some planks. >> phil: so many decisions in the game. john fox quick thinking. kick the extra point. just a knee jerk reaction going for two. >> jim: second and ten. lynch. gain of six or seven. >> phil: late in the game, here we are in overtime. marshawn lynch can still run with power. i thought his running against green bay opening game was the difference in why they beat green bay here on that thursday night. denver's defense, i believe you play it safe here. you don't try to pressure, don't give up the big plays.
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>> jim: third and three. he's gonna make it! he was trying to beat nate irving to the first down marker and he pulls it off. new set of downs. >> phil: you can lose containment. nobody's out there. coverage is good. trying a little pick. the receiver comes underneath. he's got open. russell wilson runs for the first down. if you're the edge rusher, you got to at least make him go forward and not outside. >> jim: touchdown would end the game. field goal. denver guaranteed at least a possession. >> phil: wilson. >> jim: another hookup to kearse. they rule it a catch.
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gain of 12. >> phil: he was open the whole time. i don't know why russell wilson didn't look. he was looking back inside. aquib talib playing very safe. doesn't want to take a chance and give up the big play. >> jim: keeping it. wilson drives to the 40 for five. >> phil: it is amazing. early in the year players are down just really grounded into really good game shape. but these drives, you can see it when you watch the fields. pass rushers have three or four explosive plays. when that's over, you're just trying to hang on out there. hard to get to the quarterback when you have to do it time after time. >> jim: second an five.
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inside. looks like it might be another first. >> phil: good safe play. blocking down the field. good job by chris harris. because seattle receivers are the best blocking. one of two best blocking set of wide receivers in the nfl. other set for denver. they are outstanding blockers for the pass catchers. >> jim: another first down. inside the 30. tackled by webster. >> phil: what do you do, jim? gonna give it to percy harvin? is russell wilson gonna keep it? or marshawn lynch right up the middle? lot to try to defend when they put percy harvin in motion.
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lot of distractions and a power run. >> jim: second and three. throw away. wolf was giving chase. >> phil: coverage was good down the field. nowhere to go. aquib talib on his guy. russell wilson did the star thing. he throws it away. >> jim: if they don't pick up any yardage it would be a 47 yard field goal attempt by hauschka. >> phil: they won't go for it on fourth.
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here comes the pressure defense. >> jim: here comes the pressure. reaches across. had it anyway. but a flag is out on the far side of the field. >> phil: had a free runner up the middle and they didn't contain him. it was the perfect defensive call. >> referee: holding, defense number 25. five yard penalty from the end of the run. automatic first down. >> phil: looks like corey nelson up the middle unblocked. nobody on the outside. >> jim: the play stands. plus the penalty. so they add that on. it puts it at the 19. 19 yards away from closing this
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game out. and denying peyton the chance to match. wilson back up. he's gonna run again. down to the 5 or 6. they haven't done it today but they need to do it. >> phil: they need to play man to man coverage. they have to have a spy on russell wilson. so, in other words, somebody in the middle of the field if they can block, so when he breaks right or left, they can chase him down and not let him pick up these yards. they're trying to do a double move to win the game. well covered by tj ward. if you have a sign for russell wilson, time to use it. >> jim: wilson rushed for 21 yards on this drive. to open up overtime. >> phil: san diego did i against him last week a couple times. it worked well. >> jim: hold on. whistled dead.
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time-out. time-out called by seattle. >> referee: first charged time-out, seattle. 30 second time out. >> phil: some drive. it's been methodical and looked easy. guys getting fatigued. when you're fatigued, always works to the favor of the offense. >> jim: well, we'll talk about fatigue and seattle what they're coming off of. tonight on cbs, "60 minutes", "madam secretary" and all new "good wife." coming up on america's network. if seattle gets just a field goal, denver will have a chance for a swing at the plate. from seattle's standpoint the defense is getting chance to catch its breath. team last week that was on the field in a heat index 115 degrees in seattle. that whole team was taking iv's.
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>> phil: before the game, halftime. >> jim: looked today by the fourth quarter. that fatigue was starting to factor in. >> phil: what that time-out did, it left denver catch their breath also. >> jim: at san diego last week. second and four. wilson has a man! harvin. >> phil: somewhere up there bill walsh was saying the stuff that i did 30 some years ago is still working. only this time percy harvin was on the right when they crossed and came back. it's what they started to drive off with. do you know why it works? because you're worried ab the run. worried about the mobile quarterback. you've got maybe the fastest guy in the nfl you're throwing it
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to. >> jim: he's across! seattle takes it 26-20! denver is standing around because they want the touchdown to be confirmed before they head to the locker room. i don't think there's any doubt that he flies into the end zone. >> phil: what a push by the offensive line. what a game.
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80 yards they drive in 13 plays. never give manning and the broncos offense a chance to touch it in overtime. what a game! >> phil: opens it up. how ab the receiver coming inside, getting the block, too? gets the touchdown. >> jim: the final score in overtime seattle 26, denver 20. tonight on cbs begins with "60 minutes" followed by "madam secretary" and "the good wife." for all the crew, jim nantz saying so long from seattle.
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>> pelley: today america's top military officer, general martin dempsey, said the u.s. and its allies will attack isis from many directions. "we want them to wake up every day realizing they're being squeezed," he said. american pilots have hit the islamic extremist group in iraq nearly 200 times now and soon the u.s. will be bombing isis in syria. america was drawn back into war when isis began to overrun part of northern iraq called kurdistan. kurdistan is semi-autonomous with its own military called the peshmerga. with american air support, the peshmerga are holding a tense front line against isis. earlier this month we started our reporting on that front line to explain isis-- what it is, where it came from, and how it blitzed through two countries.
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in june, the leader of isis declared himself ruler of a new nation which he calls the islamic state. of course, no country on earth recognizes that state, but if it had a border, this would be it. these are kurdish peshmerga forces in northern iraq. and right here across the bridge you can see the black flag of isis flying over isis territory. all muslims know what's written there in arabic, "there is no god but god and mohammed is his messenger." but the true meaning of this banner is written in blood and it's up to another muhammad, first lieutenant hazhar muhammad, to make sure the flag never crosses this bridge. why is this bridge so importan"" this is the road to kirkuk," he told us. the city of kirkuk is ten miles behind us. and it's the gateway to iraq's northern oil fields. do you have orders to destroy this bridge if it comes to tha""
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no," muhammad said, "the people need this bridge, no one's going to take my bridge." but he couldn't have said that last month. in august, the peshmerga were falling back just 25 miles from their capital city, erbil. the u.s. had stayed out of it for two-and-a-half years but panicked leaders of kurdistan called the white house. and that's what triggered the air strikes. you were outgunned? >> barzani: we were outgunned, yes. >> pelley: masrour barzani knows isis better than just about anyone. he's head of kurdish intelligence and the kurdistan regional security council. >> barzani: i think everybody underestimated the strength of isis, especially with all the weapons they seized from the syrian army and the iraqi army. five iraqi divisions melted away and, you know, they just left their weapons, which fell into the hands of isis. >> pelley: weapons bought by
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american taxpayers were captured by isis as it paraded into cities that had been won by american troops. how many isis fighters are there? >> barzani: there are perhaps 40,000 isis fighters who are carrying guns, fighting both in iraq and syria, maybe equally divided in two countries. >> pelley: and how many people collaborating with them? >> barzani: well, collaborating whether they believe in helping them or not or out of fear, i would say over 100,000. >> pelley: where does isis get its money? >> barzani: they generate their own revenues. and based on the information that we have, they generate something equivalent to $6 million daily by the selling of oil, wheat, taking taxes from people, ransoms and still getting donations. >> pelley: you talked about donations. >> barzani: many people who believe in this extremist ideologies believe that it's their duty to donate money to this organization.
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>> pelley: and that's been coming from where? >> barzani: different countries, actually. >> pelley: in the gulf states? >> barzani: some in the gulf states. >> pelley: $6 million a day? that'll keep them going forever. >> barzani: if they're not stopped. >> pelley: u.s. air strikes have stopped the advance, but black flags fly from northern syria to mosul, one of iraq's largest cities. now more than four-and-a-half million people are ruled by something new-- a 7th century vision with 21st century reach. in digital depravity, isis uploads its atrocities to strike fear far beyond the range of its guns. >> ( speaking foreign language ) >> pelley: the beheadings of two americans and a briton were calculated to give isis global stature, and it worked. massacres on youtube, the slaughter of thousands, are designed to defeat resistance ahead of the advance. >> we are coming for you, barack obama. >> pelley: its sophisticated media department uploads
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recruiting videos in a host of languages. >> pelley: gunmen with cameras magnify the menace to make isis appear larger than life. but what isis has shown only once is its leader. >> pelley: abu bakr al baghdadi appeared in july when he called on all of the world's 1.6 billion muslims to bow to him. >> derek harvey: we should be very careful about underestimating him. this guy is the real deal. >> pelley: derek harvey was in iraq for the beginnings of al- baghdadi. a colonel in u.s. army intelligence, he briefed president bush and top commanders. back then, baghdadi was a member of al qaeda in iraq and was imprisoned for a time by u.s. forces. when iraq's al qaeda leader was killed, baghdadi took over. >> harvey: when he became a key
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figure within the organization, he was targeted. and then in 2010 he had a $10 million bounty put on his head and he became a top-tier target. >> pelley: but the target slipped away into syria where he used the chaos of the civil war to build his army. he began to refuse orders from al qaeda and in february, al qaeda's leader kicked him out. what does al baghdadi want? >> harvey: he wants power, influence, and authority and a return to the prestige of the islamic community, and he's going to start with syria and iraq. and his strategic vision is to expand into the gulf, jordan, from the mediterranean to pakistan. >> pelley: baghdadi preaches salafism. it is a tiny sect in islam that calls for a return to the origins of the faith 1,400 years ago. but baghdadi's interpretation injects lethal prejudice.
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under isis, those who reject salafism are non-believers, subject to execution. that applies to fellow muslims and their mosques. and it applies especially to non-muslims. what happened in your village when isis came in? >> nadaya ( translated ): they told us, "wave the white flag, we won't harm you, you'll be free to go." >> pelley: nadaya lived with her large family, including brothers sayid and khalid, in a village of yazidis, a non-muslim ethnic group in iraq. she asked us not to show you her face and when you hear her story you'll understand why. >> nadaya ( translated ): they had told us, "you have until sunday to convert." but before sunday they came back and said, "we have been told you will not convert, so you are not forgiven."
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so we all were taken to the school. there, the women and kids were put upstairs and the men downstairs. >> pelley: in august, in a scene similar to this, the men were loaded onto trucks and told they were headed to a refugee camp. but like these men, it turned out to be a short ride to a mass grave. nadaya's brothers sayid and khalid were on the trucks. >> khalid ( translated ): after taking us about 300 yards away from the school, they stopped by an open field and told us to get out and lay flat on your stomach, and we did. then after we laid flat about ten isis fighters stood behind us and started firing all types of guns. >> sayid ( translated ): one by one they said, no survivors, if any survivors they would come around and shoot them in the head.
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they shot us with all types of guns. i was shot five times. >> pelley: twice in the knee, once in the thigh, once in the back and a graze to the neck. from a window in the school where the women were being held, a boy could see it all. what did the little boy say? >> nadaya ( translated ): he said, "i saw through the window they're killing the men, i saw from a distance." but we didn't want to believe him, we said he's just a little boy he might just be seeing things. we didn't believe him. >> pelley: do you have any idea how many men were killed in that massacre? >> sayid ( translated ): i think about 380. >> pelley: and how many survivors? >> sayid ( translated ): ten to 12. >> pelley: he told us as the isis fighters were finishing off the victims, a plane flew overhead and scared them away. he and his brother who'd been shot three times, crawled out of the mass grave. after the shooting stopped, what happened to the women?
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what happened to you? >> nadaya ( translated ): they told us to come downstairs. they took our i.d.s, phones, our gold, they even ripped the gold earrings out of some of the kids' ears. isis used the local villagers' trucks, started loaded up 16 to 20 women at a time and taking us away. the final destination was a little town. >> pelley: and when you got there, what happened? >> nadaya ( translated ): there was someone at the front door, he would take off our head scarves and rip open the front of our dresses. and he would touch us, sexually abuse us. >> pelley: later, nadaya was imprisoned in a house where she says women were given away as prizes. >> nadaya ( translated ): the very next morning a sheik from tel-afar came and picked up three girls for himself, two were my friends. he had the right to take three, and an isis militant had to right to take one. a friend of mine who was taken by an isis commander and returned had told us, they're
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doing everything they please with us, raping us, sexually abusing us, and that the isis men would tell them if you do not convert we will rape you all, and sell you all to isis militants in syria where a young girl could be sold for about $800. >> pelley: when she heard that, nadaya took advantage of a blackout and escaped from the building. now, all the family has of life before isis is this video of the wedding of a friend. hard to watch. they told us nearly everyone in the video is dead. what about the other members of your family? >> nadaya ( translated ): my sisters, two of them whom i speak with at times who somehow snuck a phone through have no idea where our mother is. i don't know anything regarding my mother.
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tell them "i want my mother." my friends are captive, i have no idea where my other brothers are, i want them all to return but most of all i just want my mother. tell them "i just want my mother." >> pelley: how was the black banner carried so far? a third of iraq gone in a matter of weeks, ground hard won by the united states in what was known as "operation iraqi freedom." the american people sacrificed 4,475 lives, ten years, and a trillion dollars building a government and an army for iraq. how did all of that crumble so fast? >> leon panetta: it's a tragic story. >> pelley: leon panetta was defense secretary when the u.s.
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walked off the iraqi stage in 2011. back when you watched the stars and stripes being lowered for the last time in baghdad, were you confident in that moment that pulling out was the right thing to do? >> panetta: no, i wasn't. i really... i really thought that it was important for us to maintain a presence in iraq. the decision was that we ought to at least try to maintain 8,000 to 10,000 u.s. troops there, plus keeping some of our intelligence personnel in place, to be able to continue the momentum in the right direction. and, frankly, having those troops there i think would've given us greater leverage on maliki to try to force him to do the right thing as well. >> pelley: nouri al maliki was the elected prime minister. he didn't want the u.s. troops. a paranoid man of the shia sect of islam, he nursed a grudge against the sunni branch of the faith.
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he'd been a thorn in america's side for eight years. president bush, in an off-camera conversation with us in 2007, said, "that maliki is a son of a bitch, but we have to deal with him." >> panetta: prime minister maliki, who had the opportunity to kind of hold all of this together, just turned on the sunnis, fed into the historical sectarian divisions that have marred that country for centuries, and basically undercut and undermined the security force in iraq and created, i think, the very ingredients that led to what we see today in iraq. >> pelley: maliki, in your estimation, dismantled what we built? took the sunni military officers out and replaced them with shias? >> panetta: we gave them a chance. i mean, you know, nobody can guarantee that iraq would be able to go in the right direction. but we gave them a chance. we gave them the tools. but instead, he turned to vengeance.
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and vengeance never pays off. >> pelley: but it paid off for isis. isis conquered with a relatively small force because it was welcomed by the oppressed sunnis in iraq. in an austere intelligence agency lockup, we met the kind of man who joined isis. we didn't know what to expect. but it turned out he wasn't a young fanatic, he was a middle- aged real estate agent from mosul-- one of the fed-up sunnis. when isis first came in, did people support them? were they welcome? >> saleh ( translated ): the iraqi army was hurting people, even the governor and the local government were hurting people. people thought something good was going to happen. they thought there was going to be an islamic state, a caliphate, that they would help people and rid them of oppression. >> pelley: then they learned what the black flag really meant. >> saleh ( translated ): you either join them, or they would
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consider you an infidel. >> pelley: and what did that mean to you? >> saleh ( translated ): if they declared you an infidel, that means they kill you. >> pelley: president obama refused to engage in a new campaign until iraq dumped nouri al maliki. well, two weeks ago a new prime minister took office promising to unite his people. but first, he'll have to get his country back. in a moment, the advice mr. obama got two years ago that might have headed off isis. >> cbs money watch update sponsored by lincoln financial. calling all chief life officers. >> glor: good evening. air france will operate just 41% of its flights tomorrow as a pilot strike enters its second week. microsoft offer nod reason why they delayed the releasing of xbox one in china. a successful launch today of the
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>> pelley: president obama's plan hinges on arming and training moderate syrian militias to defeat isis. the president has been criticized for not doing that sooner. you're about to hear from two men who saw the threat early-- former defense secretary leon panetta and abdullah ii, the king of jordan. jordan is a moderate american ally nearly surrounded by war, with the israeli palestinian conflict to its west, syria to its north, and iraq to the east. today we spoke to king abdullah in new york before this month's u.n. general assembly meeting. for hundreds of years his family
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ruled the holiest shrines in islam. and the king was nearly at a loss for words today when we asked him about the head of isis who claims to lead all muslims. >> abdullah ii: i hate to use the word heretics-- whatever the words of those types are-- but to even call himself a muslim is to me, just words that i don't want to use on this program. >> pelley: you just used the world heretic. is he an islamic heretic? >> abdullah ii: i think to use the word islam and him in the same sentence is not acceptable. that he even speaks in the name of islam for me is so horrendous and so shocking. >> pelley: the kingdom of jordan has borne the burden of the syrian civil war even though it has no oil wealth and precious little water. we went to the border where, for