♪ good morning. it is tuesday, september 27th, 2016. welcome to "cbs this morning." donald trump and hillary clinton clash over isis, taxes and who is fit to be president. we fact-check the arguments in their first debate. plus their running mates join us. a focus group of undecided voters from the battleground state of pennsylvania shows us how the debate influenced their opinions. plus, why do cops of pasts keep continue to be hired. we investigate gypsy cops. >> but we begin this morning with a look at today's "eye opener," your world in 90 seconds.

>> she's got experience, but it's bad experience, and this country can't afford to have another four years of that kind of experience. >> we are at the -- >> trump and clinton face off at the debate. >> i know you live in your own reality, but that is not the fact. >> we don't have the money because it's been squandered on so many of your ideas. >> maybe it's because you haven't paid any federal income tax for a lot of years. >> you're telling the enemy everything you want to do. no wonder you've been fighting isis your entire adult life. >> this is a man who has called women pig, slobs and dogs. >> typical politician. all talk. no action. >> you know, i've never seen one where the decorum broke down the way that it did tonight. there's no playbook for this. >> the florida marlins return to the ball field, the first game since the death of jose fernandez. >> a blast into the upper deck in right. unreal stuff. >> things like this only happen in baseball.

crews are battling a fast moving wildfire in california. residents have been ordered to evacuate. >> we're going to be out here for a pile. >> new orleans continue the protests. >> they wanted this to be a sign of unity. >> this is it, we made it! we made it! >> with the finale -- in a way, the selection kind of feels like the series finale of "america-." >> and "all that mattered" -- >> of course, it did not take long for one of these two candidates to tell a lie. >> donald, it's good to be with you. [ laughter ] >> on "cbs this morning." >> in the end, the entire night and the current state of american politics can be summarized by these few words. >> howard stern, rosie o'donnell -- >> miss piggy. ♪ and the home of the brave >> announcer: this morning's "eye opener" is presented by

"eye opener" is presented by toyota, this go places. captioning funded by cbs welcome to "cbs this morning." the world is react to get first debate between donald trump and hillary clinton. the much-awaited showdown was hard-fought. rejecting the closeness of the presidential race. both candidates traded a series of attacks they offered very different visions of the next four years. >> so, this morning, we're going to ask the running mates of both candidates what they thought about the debates. also our political analysts are fact-checking and analyzing who came out ahead. first, major garrett is here with the most important developments of the debate. major, good morning. >> good morning, like so many moments the debate defied the second half was more revealing than the first. those in trump's inner circle worried afterward that hillary clinton scored more points than they anticipated, and trump will

have to bounce back to keep this race close. >> how are you, donald? >> reporter: despite opening pleasantries -- >> secretary clinton, yes? that okay? good. >> reporter: donald trump and hillary clinton wasted little time clashing so far who is an agent of change. >> well, you haven't done it in 30 years or 26 years. >> well, i've been a senator. >> you haven't done it. >> reporter: and who was physically fit to serve as president. >> she doesn't have the stamina. >> as soon as he travels to 112 countries and negotiates a peace deal. or even spends 11 hours testifying in front of a congressional committee, he can talk to me about stamina. [ applause ] >> the world -- let me tell you -- >> reporter: asked why he won't release his tax returns, trump deflected by raising the scandal that's dogged clinton for months. >> i will release my tax returns against my lawyers' wishes. when she releases her 33,000

e-mails that have been deleted. as soon as she releases them, i will release -- >> reporter: clinton suggested trump was hiding something and said he may have paid no federal income tax at all. if he's paid zero, that means zero for schools or health. >> reporter: and the crusade to prove that president obama was born outside of the united states trump struggled to describe his recent change of heart. >> i think i did a great service not only for the country but for the president. >> secretary clinton. >> he tried to put the whole racist birther lie to bed. but it can't be dismissed that easily. >> reporter: unprompted, trump also addressed one of his persistent weaknesses. >> i think my strongest asset, maybe by far is my temperament. i have a winning temperament. i know how to win. >> reporter: clinton had past

dealings with racial discrimination and course statements about women. >> this is a man who has called women pigs, slobs and dogs. >> reporter: trump said those barbs have been aimed at someone in particular. >> someone who has been very vicious, rosie o'donnell. >> after the debate he said he will participate in the final two debates. i asked trump why he called president obama your president. trump said he meant no disrespect and considers obama everybody's commander in chief. hillary clinton heads to north carolina, donald trump will be in florida. nancy cordes is in white plains, new york, on how both candidates are now trying to spin the debate. nancy good morning. >> reporter: good morning, the clinton camp is not holding back, they are describing trump's comments as deranged and

unhinged. and a super pac is all right out with an ad highlighting trump saying that he has the best temperament. a line that drew a laugh from the audience last night. the trump campaign on the other hand, said his comments connecting trade to job losses resonate with voters far more than the beltway-types realize. and argued that he showed great restraint for not bringing up, for example, bill clinton's example of women. trump himself was up late into the night tweeting about various online polls that showed that he had won. but anyone, norah, can vote in those polls as often as they want. and the reality is the most legitimate instant polls and focus groups showed the opposite. >> nancy, getting ready to get up on that plane. thank you very much. the presidential candidates dared reporters to fact-check them and we did. were found that both stretched the truth. good morning. >> trump once again claim he is

couldn't release his tax returns because they're being audited. and he never supported the iraq war, both false. and with the audience last night both candidates make questionable statements in other matters including isis. >> you're telling the enemy we want to do. >> no, we're not. >> you're telling t ing enemy w to do. no worried you've been fighting isis your entire life. >> reporter: after clinton and senator for three years. >> law and order. >> reporter: clinton and trump sparred over taxes to fight crime in the u.s. >> stop and frisk was ruled unconstitutional in new york because it largely signaled out black and hispanic -- >> no, you're wrong. it went before a judge, a very

against-police judge. >> reporter: a court ruled it was unconstitutional saying stop and risk violated the amendment. >> now, you want to approve transpacific partnership. >> reporter: clinton downplayed her support of the deal when she was secretary of state. >> that is just not accurate. i was against it and terms were laid out. >> you called the gold standard -- you called it the gold standard of trade deals. >> reporter: "the new york times" backed up trump's claim and said clinton spoke out more than 40 times in favor of the tpp. clinton also raised the issue of how trump treats the women who work for him. >> this is a man who has called women pig, slobs and dogs. and someone who has said pregnancy is an inconvenience to employers. >> reporter: trump denied the charge. but according to a 2004 interview on the question of

maternal leave, he said, quote, whether people want to say that or not, the fact it is an inconvenience for a person that is running a business. clinton dinged donald trump for tree previously saying that global warming was a hoax by the chinese. and are charlie, those figures are based on congress fully cooperating. a tall order for whoever becomes the next president. >> thanks, giuliana. democratic vice president tim kaine joins us from orlando, florida. senator, good morning. >> good morning. great to be with you, guys. >> the two candidates went into this dead even. now this morning, the morning after, did it change anything in perceptions? or will it have a likely impact on the polls? >> well, i think it changed perceptions. you know, i think the folks watching that debate clearly saw that hillary clinton was very,

very well prepared for the debate and prepared to be president. and what they saw about donald trump was that he lacks specifics other than attacks. and he was easily rattled. and that was very, very apparent throughout the debate. around the longer the debate went on the more apparent that was. >> have you had a chance to talk with her after the debate? did you get a chance with her? >> i did. we chatted, i don't know, maybe probably 45 minutes after the debate was over. >> what did she say? >> she felt good about it. well, she felt good about it. i told her on demeanor, she absolutely dominated it in terms of looking presidential. trump really got flustered and kind of ran out of gas. and i talked about the fact that she offered details and plans, and he didn't. he left a lot of questions unanswered. especially the questions about his taxes. even suggesting this strategy in trying to avoid taxes just

showed how smart he was. >> what do you think was her best moment? >> you know, i think her best moment was when donald trump tried to deflect the comments about her appearance suggesting he was credit seeking her stamina. she said you go to 112 countries and sit before a house committee and talk about stamina. just the split screen i was watching, that was towards the end of the debate she was going strong and he was out of gas. that was very obvious. >> speaking of the debate, at that very moment, too, trump brought up ads that your campaign is running against him saying they're not very nice. he ominously said i was going to say something extremely rough to hillary and her family. where do you think he was going there? >> you know, that was one of the weird things. i had no idea what he was talking about, he got into an extended segment about rosie o'donnell. what did that have to do with anything?

when hillary was answering a question about russian cyber attacks. >> he jumped in oddly, we don't even know, russia may not behind those attacks. there random none sequiturs. i had no idea what he was talking about there. >> when you look at what was exchanged did that change to assure anyone who had questions about trust? and how did she do it? >> yeah, it seemed like there were a pair of trust issues put on the table last night. she was asked about the e-mail situation, and she just looked right in the camera and said i made a mistake. and i apologize for it. and the fbi did the investigation and concluded there were no additional steps that needed to be taken. and then when donald trump was asked the question about president obama not being a united states citizen. and that answer was so

convoluted. no apology. no recognition, where this is a painful thing to stay in a nation where for generations african-americans were not allowed to be citizens of the united states. so we added the 14th amendment to the constitution. with the trust issue, said i made a mistake, i learned from it, i take full responsibility. but when he was confronted with a trust question, he could not own up to his responsibility. and the fact that he had perpetrated a painful, painful lie. >> in fact, senator, on secretary clinton's response in the birther issue. she used the word "racist" three times. saying he has a long hister of engaging racist behavior. do you believe he's a racist? >> i don't know donald trump. i've never met him so i'm not going to make that claim on him. absolutely, the claim that he

perpetrated for five years that president obama was not a citizens is an absolute lie. >> thank you, senator kaine. coming up, mike pence will be in studio 57 with his reaction to last night's debate. that's ahead on "cbs this morning." john dickerson was there last night and he's here this morning. john, good morning. >> good morning. >> so much to break down. let's get specific. suburban women have traditionally voted republican. this year, the polls show they're leaning iing towards hi clinton. >> debates are the closest, we come to a formal activity that looks like the presidency. i think with the debate with the interruptions, the bombasts, that was essentially a version of donald trump in big arenas. and supporters love that. they love that bluntness.

for supporters there's nothing that he did at the end of the day looks like something that would give them confidence. >> i kept thinking, especially towards the end of the debate, there was a lot of micro targeting going on. that's a phrase that is targeted to demographics. her bringing up racists and women. very deliberate on her part. >> absolutely. and deliberate also particularly for her supporters. two groups she had to work with, one is her core supporters. the others are swing voters out there, the voters who traditionally vote republican. with her supporters in particular there are lines getting passed around about the debate including the lines about stamina and women that will be played over and over again and will increase the enthusiasm. >> the candidate, as everybody has suggested, the question raised is he fit to be president? does that question have any change to it? >> when we talk about temperament, usually it's an abstract idea.

in details. last night, viewers could get an actual viewing of temperment. >> side by side in the same shot. >> side by side in the same shot. and now what lives on after the debate. so, when you watch the two clips of them talking and donald trump is his passionate, heated rallied donald trump. and hillary clinton is different than that. then people are getting -- can take their own measurement of temperament right there in the split screen. >> did you think any had any game changing moments. donald trump said i am qualified i have the best temperment ever to be president of the united states. >> well, the thing is, you can measure that with his temperament in the debate. >> bringing up rosie o'donnell. >> that's right. hillary clinton not telling the truth about the gold standard on trade. but donald trump had a great many more things that he said that were not true, specifically on the birther question. he created a whole new fiction in that.

and that's different than saying -- misstating something or spinning something. >> do you think he'll participate in other debates, john? he seemed very proud of his performance. >> he does seem proud. i don't think he can get out of the other debates. >> in fact, he told major garrett that he would in fact participate. >> and now giuliani is saying -- rudy giuliani -- the. >> the drama will continue. >> -- that he should not participate. interesting. >> thank you for being here. the next debate with vice presidential candidates tim kaine and mike pence is one week from today. you can see it tuesday, 9:00 p.m. here on cbs. the moderator will be elaine quijano. devastating flooding. cedar rapids faces what could be its second biggest flood in history. the creed are river in iowa is expected to flood after days of heavy rain. crews built temporary levee walls.

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hillary clinton may get a debate boost from undecided voters. >> ahead, we'll also pollster

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ahead, the tearful plea in live from the cbs broadcast center in philadelphia. this is cbs-3 "eyewitness news". hey there, good morning, i'm brooke thomas. one day after the first presidential debate, it is national voter registration day. in our area, vice president joe biden is leading the way. biden will be at drexel university for a registration drive. there will be other drivers across the city of philadelphia and the suburbs, so make sure you're registered to vote. let's get a check on the eyewitness forecast now with meteorologist, katie fehlinger. >> we've had rain out there this morning, brooke, starting to retreat, but still definitely very prevalent across southeast most new jersey even back through some of the suburbs interior central new jersey getting hit here, very light rain, but there is again back edge to this, this is all courtesy of frontal passage, even looking back toward the state capitol of harrisburg, skies are trying to brighten up little

built. that's the story of the day. progressively getting more just bright, with every passing hour, but then, by tomorrow night, the next system is already here. meisha? >> in the thick of it, katie. still little wet out there, certainly damp roadways in certain areas, this is where we have an accident, vine st. local at 16th street. see it pulled off to the far left lane. see the squad cars out there with flashing lights on as well. also, ben franklin bridge looking very slow coming from jersey westbound, into center city. make note of. that will accident cleared here delaware 95 southbound, disable vehicle, the boulevard southbound at rhawn street. one lane is blocked in this area, brooke. >> necessary update 7:55, up next on cbs this morning, how one woman is trying to keep a bad cops off the streets.

hillary was happiest when donald trump attacked her for having a bad temperment. >> i also have a much better temperament than she has. there's a person with a temperament that's got a problem. >> secretary clinton. >> whew. okay! [ laughter ] >> that's how an aunt shimmys when she hears "single ladies" at a wedding. >> you could see when she got asked the questions she got a shimmy there. whew. me, words, words give me all the words, words, words. she was feeling it. >> i'll never hear the song "words, words, words" again.

>> that shimmy, that's funny. welcome back to "cbs this morning." coming up in this half hour, undecided voters watched last night's debate with dials in hand. frank luntz gathered a focus group in the battleground state of pennsylvania. you'll see whether the candidates swayed these voters. plus cops with a checkered past. a lack of oversight allows troubled cops to move to another department. what one woman is doing to keep called gypsy cops off the street. "the wall street journal" under states his profits at a congressional hearing. $100 for a two-pack. after questioned by the journal, mylan said it included taxes. the actual profit is $166. "the washington post" reports on a rise in violent climb in murders last year. the fbi says homicides in the u.s. increased more than 10% in

2015 over the year before. violent crime went up nearly 4%. but crime rates are still far lower than they were during the '80s and the early '90s. and the charlotte observer reports on an emotional statement from a little girl at a city council meeting last night. it couplings after the deadly shooting of keith lamont scott, a black man. she made a tearful plea. >> i never felt this way until now. it's a shame that our mothers and mothers are killed and we can't see them anymore. it's a shame that we have to go to their graveyard and bury them. and we have tears. and we shouldn't have tears. >> makes you remember. you know, kids see things.

and they feel it much more acutely sometimes than adults do. >> you could certainly feel compassion, feel for that girl, because she's echoing what a lot of people are feeling in charlotte, north carolina. it's heartbreaking to watch her. >> the expression of graveyard. >> that's not what children should be thinking about at this time in their lives. it's heartbreaking to watch that. >> we also saw at the meeting protesters called for resignations. a group of voters from the battleground state of pennsylvania is telling us volumes about the first presidential debate. cbs news contributor and republican strategic frank luntz invited 27 undecided registered voters to take part in a focus group. 50% said they were leaning towards hillary clinton. and eight of them had no preference before the final debate.

they all watched the debate and then they talked about it. >> tell the american people which of the two candidates impacted your votes more. raise your hand if it's donald trump. one, two, three, four, five -- six. raise your hand if it was hillary clinton. 16 to 6. i want a word or phrase to describe donald trump's performance tonight. >> strong start. weak finish. >> missed opportunities. >> bombastic. >> not presidential. >> sloppy. >> i want a phrase to describe hillary clinton's performance. >> prepared. >> firm. >> same old, same old. >> when she responded about her e-mails you weren't happy with him about that but you were mad over the tax returns, why? >> she at least went ahead and says she takes responsibility for something wrong where he, again, continued to deny any wrongdoing. >> i want to focus on her performance now. >> she's as absorbed as she is.

but she's got so much traction that covers it up. >> where does she do so well or trump do so well? somebody, yes. >> recently, he's been very good with speeches. his appearances no attacks just told himself and his plan instead of attacking. tonight, he went back to attack. >> go ahead. >> trump impacted my vote in favor of hillary because he was completely offensive. he lost me on the racial unity. and that's where i draw the line. >> he made inner cities seem like you're literally going to die as soon as you step outside. that's just not true. >> donald trump is standing where i am right now. what do you tell him? >> i tell them to answer the question that is asked of him and then stop talking. >> do you guys agree with that? >> yes. >> frank luntz is here joins us at the table to discuss. going into this debate, everybody -- the two candidates were neck and neck. what mattered most to the voters, what were they looking for? >> they wanted to see in donald trump that he was presidential.

what they meant was, sthey wantd to feel like he has a grasp of the issues. they wanted to see more from him. for her, they wanted to see candor, they wanted to see who they felt they could trust. they got some of that with clinton. they did not get what they were looking for from trump. it wasn't that hillary clinton won the debate, they felt that trump lost the debate. it bothered them that he kept interrupting lester holt and ignored him. it bothered them that he kept taking shots at hillary clinton. the difference is she took shots at him. they were well prepared. i think she had one of the best debate preps that i have seen in the last 25 years. virtually, every comment she made about him, voters didn't mind it and it clearly got under his skin. >> do you think he was prepared? >> yes, for the first 20 or 30 minutes. donald trump for the first 30 minutes was very different than the last 30.

it's all about preparation. it just kept getting worse. worse. the last 30 minutes, the bencher, the tax returns, they were mad at him. >> on that very topic of tax returns, during the debate, red line show trump leading voters. green line shows clinton leading voters. yellow line undecided. let's take a look at the reaction when trump talked about releasing tax returns. >> i will release my tax returns against my lawyers' wishes. when she releases her 33,000 e-mails that have been deleted. as soon as she releases them, i will release -- i will release my tax returns. and that's against my lawyers, they say, don't do it. >> explain what we're seeing there, frank. >> that was a tremendous response. see, in the end, by 2 to 1, voters were more concerned by what's in her e-mails because that's national security, rather than what's in the tax returns

because that's personal. frank list, they don't believe he's as wealthy as he says he is. he doesn't believe he pays the taxes that he says he does. >> they want to see his tax returns? >> they want to see his tax returns. here's what i don't understand - they were more turned off by her e-mails than the tax returns? >> that's the point. when he turns it to her e-mails, he's winning. but what does he do, goes back to his tax returns. >> did you take a look at what he did when he talked about the birther issue. here it is. >> the birth certificate was produced in 2011, you continue to tell the story and question the president's legitimacy in 2012, 2013, 2014, as recently as january. the question is what changed it now? >> nobody was pressing. nobody was caring much about it. i figured you'd ask the question tonight, of course. but nobody was caring much about

it. i was the one that got him to produce the birth certificate. and i think i did a good job. >> no, he did not do a good job. that was one of the lowest moments in the entire debate. every time he's talking about that issue he's losing because it looks like he's challenging barack obama's character. and he's on the defense. and if that's what he talks about between now and election day he cannot succeed. >> of the 27 undecided voters how many for were clinton in the jend. >> the end, 16 thought that clinton moved them 6 thought trump moved them. the rest not moved at all. some police officers with questionable pasts are being hired by different departments. ahead, one woman's quest to weed out gypsy cops after an unfair arrest. because today there's harvoni. a revolutionary treatment for the most common type of chronic hepatitis c. harvoni is proven to cure up to 99% of patients...

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checks in place to keep problem cops off the streets. demarco, good morning. >> good morning. they're known as gypsy cops, they leave one department only to be hired by another. in ferguson, missouri, one woman says enough is enough. >> reporter: where did it happen? >> it happened right here outside of my house. >> reporter: last year, she was approached by police officer eddie boyd after a hit and run in ferguson, missouri. >> he said, you have to get out of here, you have to go, something like that? i said what was your name? and that's what he arrested me. >> reporter: why did you want his name? >> he wasn't doing what he was supposed to be doing. >> reporter: so you were arrested because of disobeying the officer's order? >> that's the charge. >> reporter: that charge is still pending. in december, she filed a lawsuit

claiming the charge violated her civil rights causing fear and unrest. it's the latest in a string of complaints by officer boyd. in 2004 and 2005, boyd was accused of physical abuse in two separate incidents. neither of the complaints was sustained. in 2006, boyd was accused of pistol-whipping a 12-year-old girl and falsifying the police report. the complaint was upheld and boyd was demoted. the following year, he was accused of beating a 16-year-old boy. boyd was later acquitted. >> i'm disgusted. it's not right. for a police officer to be somewhere and have these horrible charges brought against him. and then, instead of getting fired to be allowed to resign. and then come work anyway different department. >> reporter: just last month, retired liberian mary milton was

shot in killed in punta gorda, california. coles was already under investigation when he allowed his k-9 to maul a bicyclist. and then accused of excessive force. >> i started in '71. >> reporter: roger goldman is an expert on police licensing. he said a national data sbas needed for police departments looking to hire. >> there's tremendous opposition by police unions to have any kind of reform. i know of many cases where the chief will agree not to say anything negative, in order for that person to resign. >> reporter: both boyd and the ferguson police declined our request for an interview but in a statement to "cbs this morning," the department said they've made important rescissions to their hiring practices including a psychological investigation. examination of an applicant's

prior work history. confrontations with applicants, previous employer and criminal background check. what would you like to see happen to officer boyd? >> i would like to see him fired. i would like that information to follow him everywhere to where he would not about allowed to be a police officer anymore. >> the department of justice told cbs news that plans are under way to launch a nationwide data abase to track these certified officers. while this is a major step on the road to police reform experts say the biggest challenge will be to convince the nation's estimated 18,000 police departments to participate. you have national databases for physicians. you have them for attorneys. why not have them for police officers. >> you have them for tv. this is surprising to me. there's no reference checking? there's nothing on your resume saying, look, we better check what you're saying is true? >> i'm sure they have records. a lot of times, it's personnel issues where an employer can't disclose why they fired you. but if it's an issue that makes

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♪ good morning, it is tuesday, september 27th, 2016. and welcome back to "cbs this morning." there's more renews ahead, including donald trump and hillary clinton on the attack in their first debate. we'll look at the key moments with trump's running mate governor mike pence. he's here. but first, here's today "eye opener" at 8:00. >> like so many other moments in this presidential campaign the debate defied conventional patterns. specifics mattered as much as style. >> clinton camp is not holding back. they are describing trump's comments as deranged and unhinged. >> both candidates made questionable statements on matters including isis. >> have you had a chance to talk

to her? >> i did. i told her i thought on demeanor she absolutely dominated it while trump got flustered and ran out of gas. >> question is, is he fit to be president? >> when we talk about abstracts in debates last night, viewers could get an actual vision of the temperament. >> tell him to answer the question that is asked of him and then stop talking. >> do you guy as agree with that? >> yeah. >> this was full of fight. in fact most of the night looked like this. >> you haven't done that -- >> i have -- >> but you have no plan. >> oh, i do. >> then you heard what i said about it, all of a sudden you were against it. >> well, donald, i know you live in your own reality. >> ooh! welcome to the real life version of twitter, people. ♪ i'm charlie rose with gayle king and norah o'donnell. hillary clinton and donald trump return to the campaign trail

today after last night's hard-hitting debate. in their first head-to-head meeting, the two argued over how to heal racial tension eggs and defeat isis. >> but some of their biggest disagreements centered on their economic plans and donald trump's not yet released tax returns. >> under my plan, i'll be reducing taxes tremendously from 35% to 15% for companies, small and big businesses. that's going to be a job creator like we haven't seen hins ronsi ronald reagan. >> we just have a different view about what's best for growing the economy. how we make investments that will actually produce jobs and rising incomes. i think we come at it from somewhat different perspective. i understand that, donald was very fortunate in his life. that's all to his benefit. he started his business with $14 million borrowed from his father. and he really believes that the more you help wealthy people, the better off we'll be and that everything will work out from

there. i don't buy that. >> my father gave me a very small loan in 1975, and i built it into a company that's worth many, many billions of dollars with some of the greatest assets in the world. and i say that only because that's the kind of thinking that our country needs. >> why won't he release the tax returns? and i think there may be a couple of reasons. first, maybe he's not as rich as he says he is. second, maybe he's not as charitable as he claims to be. third, we don't know all of his business dealings, but we have been told, through investigative reporting, that he owes about $650 million to wall street and foreign banks. or maybe he doesn't want the american people, all of you watching tonight, to know that he's paid nothing in federal taxes. because the only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license. and they showed he didn't pay

any federal income tax. >> that makes me smart. >> if he's paid zero, that means zero for vets, zero for schools. >> the reason i say that is not in a braggadocio way, it's because some of time somebody has an idea about running money. >> we have vice presidential nominee mike pence. >> had a great night. >> do you agree with the idea that he was better at the beginning but as the debate wore on, it was less good for him. >> no, no, i thought many good people saw last night was donald trump being himself. he was answering the questions. he was driving forward on the issues that matter most the to american people. he has his own style.

hillary clinton brings a style of 30 years in public life. well-scripted politician. and donald trump just speaks right from his mind, right from his heart. and that's the reason why we have so much momentum in this campaign. i was sitting in the front row there, it was such a privilege for me and my wife. but what was for me, just to see donald trump as himself relaxed. even in front of 100 million people. they got a real good look at donald trump. >> one of the things he says, as he was getting hammered by hillary clinton in that exchange about tax returns he said, that makes me smart. did he confirm that he does not pay taxes? >> oh, gosh, no. >> it appeared that way? >> he said afterwards that he's paid federal taxes. i think the reason why donald trump had a great night is from the very get-go, he was talking about the issues that the american people care about. we're in the midst of a struggling economy. the weakest place in world.

>> i don't want to get off the tax question for a second. why would you want voters to think that you don't pay taxes? why would you want to leave that impression in any way, shape or form? >> this is a businessman. and hillary clinton, you know, her three different guesses about his taxes, when she knows she's filed 100 pages of financial disclosure information that's available on the internet as the law requires. but speculating that maybe he didn't pay as much in taxes. he's said in the past -- like any good businessman, he works to pay as little taxes as he can. >> i remember -- i think what really happened last night was different in style between somebody who literally embodies the status quo. and someone who embodies the kind of change and the kind of leadership in washington, d.c. and change the economic direction of this country. >> we talked about earlier in the show is about suburban women

traditionally voting for republicans in the past. the poll shows they're favoring hillary clinton. there was a moment at the end of the debate last night where hillary clinton seemed to goad donald trump's past statements. i want to play that and get your reaction. >> this is a man who has called women pigs, slobs and dogs. and someone who has said pregnancy is an inconvenience to employers. who has -- >> i never said that. >> who has said women don't deserve equal pay unless they do as good a job as men. >> hillary is hitting me with tremendous commercials. some of it said some entertainment. some of is it said, someone who has been very vicious to me, rosie o'donnell. i think everybody agrees nobody feels sorry for her. he doubled down and said rosie o'donnell, she deserves it. what did you make of that exchange? >> it was just an avalanche of personal insults from hillary

clinton. a literally lost count. she spent twice as much time insulting donald trump as she did talking about her own agenda. but i have to tell you, i was so proud of the fact that he demonstrated that quality most important in a president. and the restraint. in that moment, donald trump demonstrated the restraint required for the presidency. >> he said he wanted -- what do you mean restraint? he said he wanted to bring something up about the clintons' past. >> well, 90 minutes in a row of one insult after another, culminating in that round at the end. and donald trump literally just completely open and transparent with the person people said there's things that i can bring up. we all know what they are. we all lived through the 1990s, he just said, i'm not going to do it. i think there you saw in him the restraint and temperament that

will make for a good president. >> you were with donald trump did he have a cold? >> no. >> gayle and i were hearing that people were picking up that he had a sniffle. >> i didn't hear that at all. i thought he literally took command of the stage. and literally drove the agenda towards jobs, economy, growth. the focus on trade. i have to tell you when you see these enormous crowds that come out when i'm campaigning with donald trump or hundreds that come out when i'm campaigning on my own. he's coming out speaking at this moment for the change that the american people want. hillary clinton last night, 30 years in public life was just a well-scripted presentation of the status quo. that's why i think donald trump had a great night. >> spent a lot of time talking about the birther issue and lots of other issues that have gotten him in trouble in the past. and what else persistent about that because he wanted to get that birth certificate released,

or he thought it had political impact? >> well, charlie, to be honest with you, the media over the last several years has continued to bring up that issue and donald trump put it to rest a couple weeks ago once and for all. throughout the campaign, he's been focused where the american people have been focused. the last 7 1/2 years, the weakest place in the world. stifled america's economy. we've seen a supreme court that now literally hangs in the balance in this election on our core constitutional principles. donald trump has been speaking about those things that everyday americans are most concerned about. he did that again last night. even though there were sidebar issues. i will tell you, though, while issues like that came up from the moderator and other issues, it is really remarkable to many of us, things like benghazi, the clinton foundation. >> you had the last word. we got to go. >> he's always uniquely himself. >> we hope you come back.

>> the presidential candidates are often judged on more than what they actually say. how they weigh in

a new study shows women are being penalized for asking for a raise or promotion at work. ahead, facebook executive sheryl sandberg will be in studio 57 with new research. how women in the workplace are more likely to be called bossy. you're watching "cbs this morning."

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♪ the candidates will spend more time trying to engage in the handshake. i know it sounds ludicrous, but there's all this psychology who seems more in control of the handshake. >> veteran political strategy dan seymour and michael feldman showed us last week exactly what goes into the debate prep. they carefully watched their candidates it all began with that handshake between donald trump and hillary clinton. dan and mike are here with their impressionsin and how they reacted. let's start with the handshake. people make their decision in the first 15 minutes of the

debate. >> i actually was wondering whether or not she was going to shake his hand. >> she said good to see you. >> as a xenophobe and all of this, how do you shake your hand. the whole thing is i'm not here to fight, i'm here to make a case, but at the same time, she was there to push the buttons and undermine. and i think she did a good job. he was good at outside rallying and bad trade deals. i think if he stuck to that he could have won the debate but by her pushing his buttons he got way out of hand. >> dmieshmike do you agree? >> yeah, she occupied more of that real estate than he did. on issues she needs to communicate to voters and distinct voters. she was communicating to women, and by scoring more points with

african-americans. to your point, she kept drawing him off his strategy. the first 15 or 20 minutes i was worried that he might actually be completely contained in the debate. by the end he was off that strategy if he ever had one. >> mike, you advised al gore, and he was criticized because he sighed a lot during the debate. we saw personal reactions by donald trump. the sniffling, the drinking of the water. do those matter? >> they do, particularly since the bush campaign made it more about size than substance. if you scored on points, al probably would have won the debate. a week later, he lost the debate. i'm not sure that particular issue, snifflegate is going to leave a lasting impression. it's a little distracting. >> as someone who has advised marco rubio and paul ryan, i'm particularly sensitive. i couldn't believe how much he

drank water. i agree it doesn't matter that much. but i will say this, for the last few weeks trump has made stamina a big issue. and it was breaking through. he kept hammering this point about her health issues. last night she stood in front of a massive audience and she looked energetic. she looked upbeat. she looked like she was brimming with ideas. she looked like she was ready to prosecute. he was the one sniffling and guzzling water. that issue is over. >> clearly, there was debate prep for him, did he not follow advise? or do you think he said i'll do my own thing? >> i think somewhere in between. he was prepared. notice he called her secretary clinton last night. not hillary. he did deliver lines that he clearly prepared. he made the argument for change broadly thinking. but she was able to draw him off the strategy and that means he

wasn't prepped enough. by the way, these issues were not surprises. >> i think it said in the paper there's psychological warfare that hillary clinton attempted last night and it worked. on what particular issue did you see that? >> if you looked at the primaries, they studied the republican primary debates from what i understand. if you look at rubio in houston. he pushed trump on whether or not a self-made man, born on third base and made all of his money. trump goes crazy on taxes. i think she systematically went in with those two points and pushed and he like clock work went crazy. >> but he didn't challenge he paid no federal taxes. >> he basically confirmed he paid no federal taxes. she laid out three cases only three reasons they're not as rich as they say he is. not as charitable or he paid zero federal taxes. >> he said that makes me smart.

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facebook's sheryl sandberg is in police say they're searching for suspect in deadly triple shooting last night in germantown. investigators say, someone shot a 22 year old man in the face, along with 1300 block of johnson street. just before 8:00 last night. that man died, officers say, someone also shot a 20 year old in the leg, and 18 year old in the arm, those men are in stable condition. investigators say, it is not clear if any of the men were the intended targets of the gunfire. now for the eyewitness weather forecast, here's meteorologist, katie fehlinger. >> definitely very damp start to the week here, certainly at least of the morning, but regardless, we are going to start to see skies clear as the day progresses and the sun will begin to shine. not the prettiest day, but progressively getting better here. see transition currently

taking place, still lingering showers up the coast but the clouds are beginning to thin heading further inland. still said, pretty low-lying cloud cover. continue to find pocket of poor visibility with this fog issue in the wake of the frontal boundery. that will too will clear with time. and everybody ends up seeing at least little sunshine if not more as you head further inland, that will be the storiment tomorrow starts off quietly, more rain moving into tomorrow night. lingering through most of thursday. come friday, saturday, that same system continues to produce additional showers for the area. so, it is certainly an unsettled forecast to say the least, meisha. >> sure s i can tell you one thing starting to look better on the roadways, great news for those every you headed offer and headed out the doorway. creek road, look at this, a lot better than with a we were seeing even half hour ago. ben franklin bridge however still very, very slow coming from jersey in center city. very slow all lanes of traffic right there, and also jackknife tractor-trailer, turnpike northbound, ramp to 206, ramp right now partially blocked. that will slow you down little bit.

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♪ our resident cartoonists, yes, we have one, liza donley turned her attention to last night's presidential debate. be sure to follow this morning's instagram and facebook pages to see her work. she's in the toyota room right now. live drawings in the studio. go, liza, go. facebook's sheryl sandberg is also in the toyota green room, which makes me think she's going to be a liza drawing pretty soon. hi, sheryl. coming up she's going to address the challenges that women face how they're being penalized when they ask for a raise or promotion. time for headlines.

"usa today" says the washington monument will be closed while its elevator is being repaired. the national park service ed the elevator is unreliable and needs to be modernized. the elevator is 555 feet high and the world's tallest stone structure. and bloomberg said disney is considering buying twitter. the potentially takeover would give disney a new online outlet for sports and news. salesforce.com is also responding to a request by twitter. facebook's chief operating officer sheryl sandberg says in an op-ed this morning that more women are leaning in but getting penalized for it. by lien-in.org, and mckendi and company. they surveyed 132 companies and

34,000 employees. women who negotiate are kevin more likely than women who don't to receive feedback that their personal style is intimidating, too aggressive or bossy. sheryl sandberg is here. welcome back. >> great to see you. >> there's a lot of positive in the report. first of all, you say women are negotiating more than ever for raises but doesn't always work. >> no that's right. this is the most comprehensive study that's done over year of women in the u.s. workforce, it represents 4.6 million workers. so, there's some bad institution and there's some good news. the bad news is women are not getting that very critical promotion to manager at the same rate as men. a man is 30% more likely to get that first promotion into leadership. and that's why we continue to see women underrepresented at

all levels. it starts earlier than people think. that's women overall. for women of color, we know it's even worse and that starts at the beginning, too. here's the good news. the good news the survey for the first time show that women are negotiating for salaries and promotions at the same rate of men. when negotiating, they're getting better outcomes. make no mistake about it. you're not going to get what you asked for. they are pushing pushback. >> when are they penalized being called bossy or aggressive versus men or not? >> well, in the study -- >> in 2016. >> in 2016, we process information very quickly. if i'm looking at a lion by the time i deductively think, huh, tail, fur, running at me, i'm dead. as human beings, we're wired to make snap judgments. when i see a lion, i run.

we organize, get things done. we expect women to be emotional giving. that's why when a woman negotiateses on behalf of someone else, but for herself, we instinctively don't like it. and that's me unfortunately tell our sons to man up and not cry. yes. we want women to be able to lead and get results and become ceos and we want boys and men to be emotional and full caregivers at home. >> what do the numbers show about that, how many people are working at home as well? both working outside of home and at home, who does that? >> well, mostly women. mostly women are working inside the home. men as a full-time caregiver estimated at 4% to 10%. but what's interesting here, what we're seeing is that women want to be leaders. men want to be caregivers. and i think what we need to do is make sure we don't hold people to narrow gender

stereotypes but instead, we let individuals make those decisions. >> sheryl, one of the ideas for women getting credit for how they feel at work. this was even facing women in the obama white house. the women in the obama white house had to decide collectively, oh that is a really good idea, gayle or sheryl, in order to get credit for that. why does that persist? >> women and men tend to give men credit for ideas. women, even as managers, women get interrupted more, again, focused on what we can do. 132 companies who participated in this study, they know they need to do better which is why they participated. and they know they're going to outperform their peers and other companies if they get all of the it on the table. if you're a woman, you can interrupt, if you're a man, you know, i'd really like to hear

what she had to say. we're seeing that happen. >> what's that famous warren buffett quote, if you're not using the equal percentage of the population, women in the workplace, your company is not going to be doing very well. warren buffett said that, one of the most successful investors in the world. >> he tells company to use the full population, because that's how you're going to outperform. >> so, why did you want to put this data out? did you want to prove a point? do you want companies to change or how is this data being used? >> women have been basically 5% or less at fortune 500 companies for a decade. we thought women were making progress and we are. better than my mother's generation. it has fallen down in the last decade. so what women are doing, we're surveying every single year so we get a chap shot of that

progress. so these can make progress and see what's going on. we're not at the top to change the numbers at the top because we do not get women getting the same percentages as men into that first promotion. and we also have women in stockholds. they're really important, but they're not often the roles that get promoted to ceos. if we want to change the fortune 500 5%, we're going to have to promote women. >> what's interesting in your study, you talk to people at all different levels from the top people to the entry level. i'm curious about men in the study, so they say we need to do better? this isn't right? >> across the board they know they need to do better. obviously, there's a range but the best performers from entry level to ceos, they know if they can act better as a population, they're going to be outdo their

peers. >> let's talk about facebook. how is advertising on facebook, that has been driving some of the profits, right? >> well, i'm here in new york for ad week and we're excited to announce today that we have 4 million advertisers. that's up from 3 million we announced i think on your snow in march. that's real good. i think that's businesses, mostly small businesses know that people are on their mobile phones. the average smartphone owner is checking that mobile phone 150 times a day. for anyone who has a teenager, we know it can be more. but if it's a secure business and you want to reach people were they are, you need to be on mobile. a third of small businesses don't even have a web page. and building a mobile app is way harder into your investment. >> it's recently reported that facebook overestimated how many people and how long they were looking at videos. what happened there with the correction being made? >> well, the success of our business is working with other businesses to grow results so

we're focused on that all the time. what happened about a month ago, we discovered an error in one of our videos. it wasn't the one that we were viewing advertisers on but we take trust seriously. as soon as we found it, we went to our client and let them know we have this mistake and we are fixing it. it's also why we work hard to rely on third party relationships. we just don't write on facebook. it's not just owned by facebook, but often third parties and we work with those third parties. at the end of the day, small businesses use them as product top shelves. so what they're focused on and what we're focused on is using that mobile phone that people are checking on three times a day and to reach customers and provide great service. >> every time somebody sees you, sheryl, they say, there she is? she looks good. how is sheryl sandberg doing. >> i'm doing okay. thank you for asking. >> it's in "the wall street journal," a huge section, if you want to learn more.

thank you, sheryl. always good to see you. music is transforming lives in a community so poor it's built around

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music. the kids flock here to learn and to play. but bermuda is a long way from juilliard. but these students are just as dedicated as prodigies in new york. in 2016, paraguay is about the size of california, these young musicians live in a village formed from a municipal landfill. its residents used to be known as trash pickers. today, they're known for the incredible music they make. from vad duthiers from >> reporter: good morning, the most powerful things these students learn is that music can change lives.

♪ >> reporter: there's nothing unusual about this ensemble warmup session. ♪ >> reporter: until you take a closer look at the instruments they're playing. that's not a stradivarius. but a violin created from a fork, paint can and baking tray. a flute made up of a pipe, keys. a tin was used to build this guitar. the instruments are made entirely from trash. these young musicians from the improverished country of pa paragu paraguay. describe to me what it's like. >> translator: a lot of people are dying to play with us. the truth is, it's a very

beautiful thing that has no price. >> reporter: when we met them recently in new york city, they were more than 4500 miles from her home in epinuda, a small village build on a landfill around the capital of paraguay. garbage provides a livelihood for families who live there. they sift through it to look for things to sell. fabio came up with the idea to make music. it gave a child the ability to escape poverty. music is the escape from poverty, why? >> translator: because culture is very important. it's as important as eating. culture is as important as having a home. >> reporter: a local carpenter picks through the trash heap to make raw materials for the instruments.

these sisters were among the first students. >> translator: the trip is, at first, people would make fun of us because we didn't have instruments. and now they realize, thank to the orchestra, us or any other child can change his or her life with music. >> reporter: their grandmother's meridian enrolled the girls in the music lessons. she grew up listening to the beatles and dreamed of being a singer. her granddaughters now play "imagine" at the united nations in new york. >> translator: now, my main objective and biggest dream as a family is that i'm able to become a professional musician and help children who want to grow in a community. >> reporter: that dream is coming true, largely, thanks to the documentary about the orchestra. it's called

>> we never thought we would get the response we did. we were fired by the village but this really pushed us and pushed the orchestra more. >> we are helping to tell their story to the world, and it's a privilege. >> reporter: the orchestra is getting invitations to perform across the world. even mega death in the united states. what's been the most surprising thing for you in watching the children over the last six years? >> translator: the most surprising thing i've seen in these children is the change in their eyes from living in hopelessness, to living in hope of a better future. ♪

>> reporter: a better life through music and they did it in their own extraordinary way. ♪ [ applause ] >> the documentary landfillharmonic is playing. and will be available in november. >> i can't get over how good they sound. >> they are amazing. they were playing mel ing metal. they love that movie. >> i love that when pat toomey went to washington, he didn't stop... working for wall street. toomey's plan would risk social security on the stock market, lining bankers' pockets with fees from our benefits that... could total billions, even if the market crashes, and seniors lose everything. katie mcginty is working for us.

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>> this is cbs-3 "eyewitness news". good morning, everyone, i'm jim donovan. today is national voter registration day, and vice president joe biden is making sure students in our area are registered. biden will be at drexel university for registration drive. there are other registration drives across the city and suburbs, and you can get more information on national voter registration day, on our website cbs philly. com. remember, if you are not registered, you can't vote this november. >> now, let's turn to katie for a look at today's wetter. >> good morning, still waiting the full passage of the cold front. has been bringing us damp conditions since early this morning, with left over damp roads, even though the rain at this point starting to push out to sea. at least we will progressively see nicer weather with every passing hour, still hint of green popping up over the

lands areas, most notably through southeast new jersey further inlander, see skies starting to clear out. so behind this front, still left with a lot of clouds at the immediate coastline, especially, but clouds break for sunshine as the day goes on, still gray skies here in the city, and the further inland you are again it actually brightens up nicely. so turns into pretty nice afternoon, if you are far enough inland. regardless, temperatures are staying pretty steady right through tomorrow, we do catch break between systems, but already, tomorrow night, the next storm is here. and this one cuts itself off from the main flow of energy, meisha, so it will be around for couple every days, wettest time frame tomorrow night and thursday. >> yes, no fun. katie, thank you so much. looking outside right now, we do have an accident, a.c. expressway westbound, onramp to black horse pike, ramp is closed right now, just make note of that, also, this jackknife tractor-trailer still out there, new jersey turnpike northbound ramps to 206. ramp is parallelly blocked. the censor behind it, showing you're traveling next to posted speeds which is good. overturned vehicle here, route

38, westbound, past 295. that left lane is block there. but again, when we lock straight behind it, you can see green showing you are traveling around 55 miles per hour, jim, over to you. thanks, meisha. that's "eyewitness news" for now. join us for "eyewitness news" at noon. i'm jim donovan. make it a great day.

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