captioning made possible by johnson & johnson, where quality products for the american family have been a tradition for generations >> pauley: good morning. i'm jane pauley and this is "sunday morning." today is the 45th day in office for america's 45th president. and dromos at least some of his success to his high profile campaign manager now white house aide kellyanne conway. conway is rarely at a loss for words as norah o'donnell will show us in our sunday profile.

>> kellyanne conway was front and from in the fight to make donald trump president. you have full secret service protection, why? have there been threats? >> yes. >> this "sunday morning" in the west wing and in her new jersey home a candid conversation with kellyanne conway. >> pauley: the united states could become a rep vision nation if one big part of president trump's agenda comes to pass. how to pay for the massive cost of rebuilding our infrastructu infrastructure. kris van cleave explores the option. >> donald trump was known for building big things. now many are wondering how he will pull off with is likely to be the biggest constructs project in america's history.

fixing the infrastructure. >> if you look at the magnitude of the backlog of unrepaired ai. trillions. enjoying turf, ornd s music. rise ofwith melinam is c? obama ofno clear what ordering the wiretapping of his trump tower phones the months before the election. the president called it mccar theism in a series of tweets on saturday. mr. trump also wrote that mr. obama is a quote, bad or sick guy. he provided no evidence to support his claims. a spokesman for president obama called the accusation, quote, simply false. at a town hall in south carolina yesterday, republican senator

lindsey graham said he was very worried about president trump's charge. >> he claims that the former president illegally wiretapped his campaign. we need to get to the bottom of this, don't you agree? >> across the country thousands of people attended rallies in support of president trump on saturday. there were some clashes including this one in berkeley, california, at least ten people were arrested. in iraq the boots retake mosul from isis is intensifying. the city is under heavy tank bombardment. thousands are fleeing the fighting. and in alaska mushers from around the world gathered for saturday's ceremonial start of the iditerod sled dog race. about,000 dogs and 7 teams are involved. now the weather. wet along the pacific coast with

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our "sunday morning" almanac, march 5th, 1815, 202 years ago today the day german-border patrol dr. franz anton mesmer died at age 80. mesmer believed he could harness a force he called animal magnetism to cure the sick. relying largely on the power of suggestion, his controversial methods came to be called mesmerism. a forerunner of modern hypnotism. >> you see before you the conductors of my power. don't be frightened if you swoon away. don't resist. >> alan rickman portrayed mesmer as only he could in the 1994 movie of that name, just one countless depictions of hypnotism in popular culture. bela lugosi portrayed hypnotism as the most horrifying of myth i can dark arts in the 1931 film

"dracula" while the 1962 cold war thriller "the manchurian candidate" credited hypnotism with near irresistible powers at communism's beck and call. >> the old wife tales that hoe tip know advertised subject may be forced to do that what is repellent to his moral nature, whatever that may be. >> i think i can help you with hypnosis. >> hip poses noses? >> by contrast, strictly for laughs in the 1960s tv series "gilligan's island." >> when i snap my fingers you will become wide 'with wake. >> going to eat regularly. >> entertainment value aside, hypnotism's modern day medical practitioners employ it to help patients do everything from stopping smoking to losing weight.

>> we can -- as the doctor recently explained to our new york station. >> the purpose of hypnosis is to address these deeply seated conflicts between the subconscious and the conscious so we can get to the root of the problem. >> serious therapy or parlor trick, popular views on hypnotism's value remain divided to this day. not unlike the way they were in the times of dr. frons anton mesmer. head up, we look at the making of the french beret, next. we asked people to write down the things they love to do most on these balloons. travel with my daughter. roller derby. ♪

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>> jay: an age-old staple of french fashion is suddenly new again. here is david turecamo our man in paris. >> in the south of france is a small museum dedicated to a hat. the beret. you know that french hat you see artist and well french people in general wearing. the french beret originated in the pyrenees mountains about 400

years ago. it draws on the same techniques that have been used. yet it's never gone out of style. it's the must have accessory of this season according to lord & taylor fashion director. >> it is it is the biggest trend we've seen in a long time in terms of accessories. >> a hupped years ago they were made on machines like this. today the machines are faster, but almost as antiquated. in fact this one almost 50 years old. >> prior to that, had machines like this. >> mark sanders is the sales and marketing director for the oldest traditional beret manufacturer in the world. they are the last manufacturer in france to make berets the way they do. >> in the heyday we had 350 people working. >> marcus irish part of the new management team that took over about four years ago tougher the former owners filed for

bankruptcy. rather than let it close the employees fought to keep the plant alive. >> they spent their own money, they started making berets, not to let the machines stop. >> the machines are just hardware because the real work is done by hand. about quarter of a million beret in a year, it's a two-day process to finish one. marino wool is knitted to produce this. >> looks like a large pizza. >> then goes through a process called felting, that shrinks the wool makes the soft and thick. >> more of a living material, never the same. it changes from batch to batch. every 15 minutes like a chef

will do. >> then dyed, stretched and steamed to give it color, size and form. now you see this machine, the drum is covered with abrasive metal brushes. >> it scratches the wool to make the fibers stand. >> i once they stand up they can be sheered on this machine to make the fabric smooth. >> it hurts our employees to know that the french beret are made in china or end i can't and worst of all sold in paris. it's important to keep it alive. >> just as french as bridgit bardot. ♪ i think i love her >> this is what we do weekly here. >> still to come, on the beach with pop star ed shearan. and later, norah o'donnell talks to white house counselor

kellyanne conway. >> i can't let the haters get to me or to the president, what he's doing here is so big.

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>> it's "sunday morning" on cbs. here again is jane pauley. >> pauley: for the record, thinking out loud by ed shearan won the grammy for song of the year last year. this year shearan is releasing a brand new album and revisiting some of his favorite haunts in the company of our mark phillips. >> when was the last time you got -- >> couple of weeks now. >> to hear ed shearan talk about the place he grew up you wonder why he ever left. >> what is special about this place? then you realize in a way he never did. are you a vinegar guy? >> vinegar and salt. >> ed shearan is 26 now and may be the hottest thing in the pop music business. in fact he seems to be rein haven'ting it.

>> can you jump up? >> just sit on the wall. >> there we go. >> you first. ♪ i'm in love with the shape of you ♪ >> the new album this one called "shape of you" have gotten internet hits counted in the billions. ♪ i'm in love with the shape of you ] >> that's a fly technique. >> good thing is whether in the middle of winter or summer the weather is always the same. >> i think it's quite nice during the summer. ♪ i'm on my way ] >> when shearan released two advanced tracks instead of the usual one people said he was crazy. they fight each other. >> actually not necessarily. this is good fish. he was right. both songs have been sitting at the top of the charts the day they were put out. the first time that's ever

happened. ♪ my first kiss on friday night ♪ >> yet here on england's east coast where he grew up, shearan still eats his lunch one chip at a time. >> no one treated me any different. same people working in the fish and chip shop. >> it's the same means like a local hero. >> ♪ eni was 6 years old ] >> there's a method to his success first right catchy songs about stuff you know. >> ♪ i was running from my brother ] >> this one is called castle on the hill. ♪ over the castle on the hill ♪ >> this is the castle on the hill. this is legitimate teen aiming hang out where you and your pals would become on a friday night. >> yeah. >> this is the -- yeah. you get 20 out here. i'm just in love with the things

i write about like new jersey. ♪ you are the one and only >> beyond writing the songs, shearan also wrote his own rules about how to hell system. like so many others he had set off for london as a teenager singing on street corners and in pubs. but he didn't knock on record company doors or wait to be discovered. ♪ you can wrap your fingers around ] >> instead he was marketing his own stuff releasing his music himself on websites until inevitably a record label came calling. the record company offered you 20,000. >> yeah. >> you had already earned half a million on your independent sales. >> well, i didn't have the infrastructure, the american label they have japanese label, australian label that's what i

was planning for. >> it paid off. >> yeah, definitely. >> by the time his first album came out in 2011, he called it "plus" he had already made following, it moved into the top five around the world. ♪ people fall in love in mysterious ways ♪ >> his next album he called "multiply" he has a think for math it hit number one in the u.k. and the united states. ♪ baby now >> it's hard to go to wedding without the bride and groom dancing to the big sing fell that one, thinking out loud ♪ thinking out loud ♪ >> this was the first of sheer's music videos in which he himself appeared. >> that was made at the beginning of my career. >> because you wanted the music to speak or because you were in secure. >> i didn't like the way i looked. h on film.

deep. >> seem to have gotten over it. >> i just can't hold it back now. >> boy, do they sell. shearan may be a worldwide mega star now but to his fans he seems like a small act that made it big. he says, thanks to them. >> who helped you first? >> i know that's a bad thing to say because i'm part of the music industry that doesn't like. >> code for piracy. >> illegal file sharing made me. the students in england going to university sharing my songs with each other i don't think file sharing is -- people -- but i feel like so easy. ♪ everything has changed >> ed shearan, ladies and

gentlemen! >> he's also written for other stars like taylor swift and justin bieber. ♪ if you like the way you looked at, baby, you should stop and love yourself knight. >> and also written for the movies this for the lord of the ring series. however it happened, shearan became big enough to fill madison square garden three times. and because people said he could never do it, he booked london's 80,000 seat wembley stadium also for three nights and filled that, too. and then he packed it in, vanished for a year. >> why did you feel the need to do it, things were getting out of hand, you were losing touch? >> not losing touch but i was

definitely in a spiral of work and partying that probably would have rendered not well. but also i think as much as i needed a break i think public needed a break. >> if you continue in everyone's face they're going to be like, you know what, i'm cool. >> if the sales of the new album called in testify table "divide" are any indication, shearan fans missed him. ♪ know the answers and i miss the way ♪ >> maybe he really needed a break. maybe it was another really clever marketing ploy. maybe both. ♪ works the sunset, over the castles on the hill ♪ >> what does seem clear is that it worked. >> think that might sell? >> i think it would.

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>> pauley: from president trump on down everyone seems to agree that america need to become a renovation nation. but as kris van cleave tells us,

politically the road to repairing our infrastructure may be as bumps and potholed as the actual road themselves. >> the time has come for a new program of national rebuilding. >> in his speech to a joint section of congress this past week, president donald trump made clear he intend to make good on one of his signature campaign promises. >> our roads, our bridges, our tunnels, our highways, our airports, schools, hospitals, we'll rebuild everything. >> rebuilding the nation's infrastructure was a key element of mr. trump's plan to make america great again. and the anxious experts who have been watching it crumble for years are hopeful this time the issue might finally get the attention it deserves. >> i think we have been in a mass collective state of denial about how important these systems are, what it takes to

keep them up to stuff. >> casey dinges is with the american society of civil engineers. they will release their highly anticipated infrastructure report card last time they gave the nation a d plus. >> road conditions cause the average american to spend another $500 a year on car repairs, by the year 2020 if we don't start making proper investments personal family income will fall by $3,000. >> and so doledder dam stands today a modern colases. >> the united states used to have the best infrastructure in the world. but those days are long gone. >> if these investments aren't made doesn't the risk of failure of these types of aging infrastructure go up? >> it will be a more dangerous infrastructure that weary lying on. so we're certainly putting ourselves at greater risk from a safety perspective, absolutely. >> virtually everyone agrees we need to fix the nation's aging infrastructure.

but there's a fierce debate how to pay for it, by raising taxes, turning to private investment or simply borrowing more money. >> i think there's no daneer that we're going to spend too much. >> larry summers served as treasury secretary under bill clinton and was an economic advisor to president obama. he is one of a growing number of economists who say the money to pay for an increase in infrastructure spending should be borrowed. >> a moment of unpress departmentedly low interest rates should be a moment of unprecedented lehigh investmen investments. it's a tragic irony that it's a moment of unprecedentedly low investment. >> why is that? why aren't cities, states and the federal government going, we should act now? >> some of it is general distrust of government. some of it is frustration with the difficulties in getting infrastructure projects done quickly. some of it is just a generalized gridlock that seems to infect our politics. >> help us rebuild america.

help us put construction workers back to work. >> republicans in congress consistently opposed increasing infrastructure spending under president obama. after years of tea party protest, few seem eager to take on more debt in order to do so now. tuesday night the president hinted his plan will not ask taxpayers to foot the entire bill. >> i will be asking congress to approve legislation that produces a $1 trillion investment in the infrastructure of the united states financed through both public and private capital creating millions of new jobs. >> the white house has yet to release an infrastructure plan. but last fall mr. trump's campaign suggested offering billions in tax credits to private investors willing to finance public infrastructure projects. known as public-private partnerships, they are essentially business deals, the project has to generate revenue

for the private investors. >> there are literally trillions of dollars available around the globe for infrastructure projects. >> doug petersen cochairs the infrastructure task force or the bipartisan policy center. >> there are projects that lend themselves to this kind of arrangement? >> toll road would be one example. a company might completely purchase and run a transportation system of road, getting paid through the tolls. >> like the tolls collected on these express lanes outside washington, d.c. when virginia wanted to build them, it was private investors who helped pick up the tab. >> this project wouldn't have gotten done without a public-private partnership. >> there was no money for this project. >> but for-profit infrastructure can mean more than just toll road. >> if i took blindfolded to la guardia airport i must be in some third world country. >> the long awaited $4 billion make over at new york's much owe

reviled la guardia airport is a public eye private partnership. sometimes very expensive. in southern california the tolls to cross this privately financed tunnel started small, but have risen to as much as $11, forcing virginia taxpayers to subsidize some low income drivers. this toll road in denver didn't cost the taxpayers a dime, but costs drivers as much as $18 one way. in chicago, the cost of parking has more than doubled since the city leased its meet turnovers private investors in 2008. before the 75-year lease is up, the deal will cost the city's furious residents millions. and how do we attract investors to infrastructure projects unlikely to make a profit? we probably won't. >> every day i say a little prayer before i come in this building, actually. >> jumbo enreef runs the 79-year-old treatment plant in

breckenridge, men. the city of 2200 is proud of the safe, clean water but the plant is long past its prime. >> this one is the one that worries me the most. see what i'm talking about? the rust? >> some pipes still in use date back to the 190s. a public works package that included money to replace the plant was defeated in the state legislature last year. >> if this were to fail, blow a hole, we would not have any water at all. literally scares me. i think i'm going to church right now i think. >> here's the irony. even though politicians can't agree, infrastructure spending is popular. a recent poll found that 89% favored increasing federal infrastructure spending. many experts believe the best way to fund transportation infrastructure would be to boost the federal gasoline tax. it hasn't been raised since 1993. >> we did not have enough

funding to maintain the roads and the bridges that we currently had. >> georgia governor nathan deal couldn't do anything about gridlock in washington. but he was determined to do something about gridlock in atlanta. in 2015, in a move that angered anti-i tax conservatives, deal and his fellow republicans in the state legislature agreed on ten-year, $10 billion transportation bill raising the gas tax by six cents a gallon for the average driver. 19 states and the district of columbia have increased their gas tax since 2013. >> is it a situation where people are willing to pay for things like roads and politics sometimes gets in the way of that? >> i think that's always a factor. i think we sometimes underestimate the enthusiasm that our public has for making sure that they don't have to sit in traffic. i think that's the frustration that many taxpayers and many drivers have all across the country, is they don't see

anybody doing anything except talking about something. i thought it was time we did something about it. >> no matter how it's paid for, raising taxes, private investment or borrowing, most agree the time to act is now. if not, the nation's crumbling infrastructure is likely something we all will be dealing with for a very, very long time. >> pauley: next dasher. feel like i died in there, got reincarnation. >> pauley: one of a kind?

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>> pauley: is a certain college basketball star simply one of a kind? or a possible inspiration for many more like him? steve hartman traveled to indiana to find out. >> sophomore caleb swanigan, no. 30 1/5 for the purdue boilermakers may be the most

talented college basketball player in the country. but he is also the most unlikely. >> feels like i just had two lives, really. for lack of better words for like i died and then got reincarnation. >> this is the new caleb swanigan. and this was the old. that's him in the yellow. over 360 pounds in 8th grade. the only thing this kid could dunk was a cookie. but what makes his success most implausible that for the majority of his childhood caleb was homeless. his mom used to drag him from shelter to shelter here in indianapolis and across the country. until 2011 when she gave up her parental rights. >> he had a blue shirta tie, some khaki pants had this little duffel bag under his arm. >> roosevelt barnes adopted caleb, at the time roosevelt was recently divorced and his other kid were grown and gone. >> it allowed me to have somebody in the house that i

could love again, really. >> love and encourage. roosevelt says you have to encourage. which is why, when that 360 pound 8th grader said he wanted to play basketball, of all sports, roosevelt didn't try to lower caleb's expectations. he raised them. >> when he couldn't jump over a piece of paper, i was telling him, you're great, you're the best power forward in the world. >> were you lying to him? >> no, i wasn't. i was speaking faith. faith is the substance of things hoped for and evidence of things not seen. >> caleb bled. >> i guess he saw something in me that i didn't see in myself at that point. >> it helped that roosevelt knew a little something about sports. he played pro football in detroit and now works as a sports agent. he laid out a program for caleb that in clueded getting in shape and getting mostly as in school. as a result, last week, caleb swanigan was named an academic all-american. one of the top basketball

players in the country with a 3.3 gpa to boot. is this kid one of a kind? or is he just one of many kids on our streets and in our foster system who simply need someone to believe. >> jay: still come, kellyanne conway, her turn. and meet nacho, bobby flay's delectable cat.

>> here gyp is jane pauley. jay: kellyanne conway played a crucial role in donald trump's election to the presidency. now she has a high profile job in his white house. with the occasional day off. norah o'donnell of "cbs this morning" has our sunday profile. >> last sunday, kellyanne conway wasn't defending her boss, president donald j. trump on tv.

she was at church, attending mass with her husband, attorney george t. conway, and their four children, along with some friend. breakfast at a diner came next. >> what are you are you having? lumberjack? >> followed by some quality family time at their northern new jersey home. a brief return to what life used to be like. but these days her sunday routine is far from normal. >> i was surprised you have full secret service protection. why? have there been threats? >> yes. i have 24-7 secret service protection and -- >> most white house staffers do not. >> do not. i find that to be very unfortunate and obviously if they didn't need to be there, they wouldn't be. >> but they do need to be there, the unusual round the clock protection was granted to guard president trump's high profile,

highly controversial white house counselor. you were going to stay on the outside. make a lot of money. why did you go inside the white house? >> great question. every time i see people, she sold her soul thinking, wow i was making one and half speeches, so couple hours out of my life. what i will make this year in the white house as counselor to the president. >> there is no man she will not go after. >> of course, before she counseled president trump, the 50-year-old attorney and business woman who founded her open polling company became the first woman cam to manage and win a presidential race. and it's because she's a woman, says conway, that she find herself a constant target. take wearing that revolutionary style coat at the inauguration. she responded to the critics by saying, "sorry to offend the

black-stretch-pants women of america with a little color." let's agree that it was silly to focus on your outfit. >> they doyle it. what are the black stretch pants women? >> the fact is that we are -- i'm actually honestly asking because -- >> goodness, i mean, walk through an airport, look at a lot of america today. they don't wear anything that snaps, buttons or zippers, that's okay. that's their business. why criticize what i wear. >> fast forward to this past monday when she was photographed kneeling on a couch in the oval office. >> we're constantly going back to, where i sat, the presumptive negativity of what i wore or what i said and i do think it's a triple standard. i hate to tell you. what does that mean, a triple standard? >> people talk about the double standard of what a woman wears, not what she said or -- what she was doing x, j and z. the triple standard is -- is

that, conservative women are held to -- you know, are just cast aside many times by traditional feminist outlets and individuals who control a great deal of the media. i can't let the haters get to me or to the president. what he's doing here is so big. >> then again, for some, it's not what she's wearing or doing. it's about what she has said. >> i said it's brand new information to people that president obama had a six-month ban on the iraqi refugee program after two iraqis came here to this country, were radicalized there was a matter minds behind the bowling green massacre. >> as is now well-known there was never a bowling green massacre. she called it an honest mistake. but there was also this remark about the size of the crowd on inauguration day. >> you're saying it's a falsehood. they're giving sean spicer our press secretary gave alternative facts to that. the point is dash there are.

>> alternative facts? alternative facts for the five facts he tutored. the one thing he got right was z,ke miller. alternative facts are not facts they're falsehoods. >> did you take a credibility hit because of what happened with the bowling green massacre, and what happened when you talked about alternative facts? did that hurt your credibility? >> i think the question presumes that it did. so, now you've got that out in the ether and -- >> actually you can say no. >> well -- i didn't presume anything. >> no. what -- what people should do, what i've always done with otherss look at the measure of someone's career. i've been a pollster for two decades plus. and i've worked very hard to speak candidly and truthfully. >> what are -- alternative facts? >> alternative information and additional facts. that got conflated. respectfully norah i see

mistakes on tv every day. everybody thinks just so funny that the wrong movie was -- you know, heralded as the winner of the oscars. you say, well, that's just all in good fun, things happen. well things happen to everyone. >> conway has also taken flack for promoting ivanka trim's fashion line while in the white house. >> i fully -- just going to give a free commercial here, go buy it today, you can buy it online. >> white house press secretary sean spicer would say -- >> she's been counseled on that subject. that's it. >> then this past week the white house said conway acted, quote, without nefarious motive or intent. >> do you feel bad about what happened? >> i always feel badly because i'm -- you know -- catholic guilty, mother guilty, maternal guilty. counselor guilty. it's all there, of course. of course i felt badly about what happened because i am here to serve the president, to serve the people. >> she does it from one of the

most coveted offices in the west wing. once occupied by valerie jarrett, karl rove and former first lady hillary clinton. you've still got the jacket. >> the jacket is there. it may go into the own private museum along with the screen shot of my cell phone at 2:30 a.m. on election night from huma abedin who was calling on behalf of secretary clinton to call and conkeyed and congratulate donald trump on his victory. >> we visited her last wednesday. the morning after president trump's address to congress. >> i am here tonight to deliver a message of unity and strength. >> one that seemed to mark a depature. >> these people are stupid. >> from the fiery stump style americans have grown accustomed to. was the president's speech a reset button? >> no. i think the reset button is way over done. this is a progression, the man has been on the job for five weeks. >> it was called a presidential

speech. he's been president for five weeks. what went into this peach that changed the way he's communicating? >> well, first of all, i was part of the process you -- others did the bulk of the work. but i will tell you that it is president trump who was writing and rewriting entire passages. he really wanted it to be in his voice. he works with predominantly brilliant speech writer, steven miller works -- is able to really reflect the president's tone and content. and then i think he heard much of we vang a trim's voice in that speech. >> conway says her job includes press and communications. but she also views herself as a conduit, a person who delivers advice and data to the president. what time do you get in the morning n. >> around 7:30. >> what time do you believe? >> it varies. not early. usually not before 8:00 or 9:00. but i have a very hermit-like existence here part of it is

because of the secret service detail. part of it is because if i want to go out to dinner it's photographed and talked about, what did she eat, what did she do, what was she wearing? it's weird. i'm not a celebrity, i'm just a pollster who happened to become a campaign manager. i've been trying to keep a much lower profile here. >> which is why we're seeing less of her these days, she says she's trying to cut back on screen time. >> people should not look at me as somebody who, quote, goes on tv. that was 5% of what i did. this idea, somebody once wrote very flattering article, you know, had to put one negative thing in there, no, maybe she's not that involved in everything because she's on tv. it's like, no, i'm on tv when they're all still sleeping or watching me from bed. i'm already there. been up for two hours. i'm there late at light. >> that may be just as well because night light hasn't been kind to conway. not long ago saturday night live depicted her as a stalker. >> i'm not going to be ignored.

>> you did it kellyanne you made up a massacre. we can't have you on. >> but i miss the news. >> look, people really got outraged about that particular skit. i had people right, left and center coming to my quote, defense. saying it was over the top and it's all so. but it's also untrue. >> so, what is kellyanne conway? she was raised in a blue collar new jersey town. her parents divorced when she was young. >> i grew up in a house of all women. my mother, her mother and two of my mother's unmarried sisters raised me. four italian catholic women raised me in this house. that has benefited me tremendously there's a certain humility that will never go away. >> while president trump uses social media as an important tool to communicate, and sometimes attack, conway tells us she considers it a cesspool. in part because of what her children see on it.

>> it hurts my kids more than anything. they all read. they're all online reading. >> what do your kids say? >> mom, why do people say x about you or y about you. i say, well, that's their unconsidered opinion. they don't want donald trump to be president. they don't want me to be there with him. they don't want any of us. they try to pit us against each other which is completely ridiculous. i tell them, say a prayer for those people. something's got to really bother you that you feel so bent on criticizing someone you hardly know for doing a job that you can't begin to understand. >> her husband, george conway, who may also join the trump administration as the nation's next solicitor general, is much more camera shy. and what do you think of watching kellyanne through this whole thing? >> she's a fighter. she's tough. i don't like everything that's been said about her, to be sure. it makes me a little angry. it's part of the fact that she's out there for the president and they're going to attack her.

attack whoever they see standing up for the president. >> you talk so passionately about public service and the role that -- that you're crafting in the white house. i mean that naturally evolves in something wanting to run yourself for office. >> i feel like i'm in a really good place, norah, as counselor to the president to have the type of impact that usually motivates people to run for office. it's not just the fire in your belly any more, you have to have the bile in your throat. that is why i think many women do not run for office. many good men and women who would -- >> bile in your throat? >> the country looks at you through this negative lens and corruption and cronyism and lying and you want money and you're motivated by power and capital and -- and -- you know, the money that can come to you. the wealth that can come to you. they are really good men and women out there who truly want to serve. i've worked with them in my polling business for decade, some make it. >> for now the conways will soon

be packing up and heading to washington. although not everyone is thrilled about it. what is what? to not let mommy move to wash snark. >> yeah to, not let any of our family move. >> sign the petition. >> stop the conways. >> respected by some, denounced by others, conway says there's only one thing that could make her rethink her future alongside the man she helped make president. >> is there anything that would cause you to want to leave the white house? >> yes, my children. they're having the hardest time with this. this is all new for us. that is not something i've sought. i'm not a famous person on tv. it's just different to not have mom there, but it was a decision we made as a family and we're going to move them here either way because i'm here to support the president.

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captioning sponsored by cbs >> dickerson: today on "face the nation", battling continuing revelations about his campaign team's contacts with the russians, president trump lashes out at his predecessor. it didn't take long for the glow of the president's address to congress to turn cold after reports surfaced that attorney general jeff sessions had not been accurate about his contact with the russians during the 2016 campaign. president trump found himself once again on the defensive against damaging leaks and intense tied the focus on the russia story. launching an unsubstantiated claim on twitter the president

wiretapped his campaign headquarters to investigate his russian ties. we will explore all of this with the top democrat on the senate intelligence committee mark warner and fellow republican committee member susan collins, former cia and