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>> kevin: stunning. absolutely stunning. >> rich: look at the blocks out in front. you see the right guard. the tackle. you see the slot receiver. bruce ellington. this is what you want if you're a texas fan. the football in deandre hopkins's hands with green grass. seattle pressured and deshaun watson knew exactly where to go with the football. >> kevin: with a big extra point coming up here as hopkins scores. fairbairn. it's in there. a four-point lead for houston. 38-34. 4:49 to go in the wake ofa i very turbulent time for the texans with the comments by their owner bob mcnair, they have come out and played an outstanding game in a very difficult venue. >> rich: it's been a difficult
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week for the players and coaches wuto their credit they stuck together and that's the important thing. a lot of credit should go to that man there, bill o'brien. he was very emotional in the meeting last night and said, "look, i believe in these players. we believe in one another. we're going to go out and play our best football today and they've done just that so far, you hate to see someone lose this game, kevin, it's intn so entertaining, i don't think anyone is going to lose, they're going to run out of time, it's been that type of game, two warriors in russell wilson and deshaun watson and they continue to keep bringing their team back. >> kevin: four lead changes. three have come in this quarter. all four lead changes have come in the second half. the lead has volleyed back and forth. a penalty on the extra point. the kickoff well out of the back
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of the end zone. for those of you expecting to see "60 minutes" you're watching the game on cbs between the texans and the seahawks. kevin harlan, rich gannon, dana jacobson. "60 minutes" will be seen in its entirety immediately following this game except on the west coast. three time outs. russell wilson has his team at the 25. five in the secondary. first and 10. winding up. long pass for baldwin -- oh, the defense was there. the coverage by gilchrist and baldwin made a heck of a stab at it. >> rich: play action effective
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for both quarterbacks. a very difficult catch. baldwin has it, gilchrist makes it difficult, he goes to the ground and it's too hard to squeeze it. they are taking their shots against this houston secondary. >> kevin: ball is in the backfield. second down and 10. he gets away from clowney. chased by reader. out of bounds he goes. very close to a first down. in fact, they give it to him. a gain of 11. a first down to the 36. >> rich: the effort from russell wilson trying to throw the football downfield on play action, not there, he steps up, watch this effort. watch him dive here. that gets you fired up and motivated on the sidelines when you see a player like russell
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wilson lay it on the line. >> kevin: 36, wilson caught by the second year player out of ohio vannett. >> rich: you know this game is important to russell wilson. when we sat down with russell wilson yesterday he's a fan of deshaun watson. he wants to see him do well. just not today. these guys have great admiration and respect for one another but it's personal between russell wilson and deshaun watson. >> kevin: second down and two. wilson, the tight end with the block and wilson, the quarterback throws -- and it's caught there. richardson right in front of the coverage of marcus williams. a gain to the 41.
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16-yard pickup and a first down. >> rich: watson patient from the route runner. he goes upfield and works back out, he's going to sell the in move, he pauses and works back to the boundary. you cannot make that throw unless you've got plenty of time in the pocket. great protection from that seattle offensive line. >> kevin: darboh comes in. they rest richardson. reader chasing. wilson escapes. incomplete. lockett was there. coverage by williams. >> rich: what's interesting, seattle hasn't run the ball at all yet the play action has been so effective. that's a terrific effort there by tyler lockett. if he doesn't stick his hand out there, that could have been intercepted. good, alert play by the veteran receiver.
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he knew he wasn't going to catch it. he wanted to make sure no one else did either. >> kevin: they bring in the running back. j.d. mckissic. second down and 10. spins away again. got away from lamar houston. gets back up. can't bring him down. he's got the first down. here goes russell wilson. to the 20 yard line. 21-yard scramble and a first down run. on this drive, rich, he's had runs of 11 and right there, 21 yards. >> rich: texans have been hurt by quarterback runs. look at him kick through that tackle right there -- given up about 20 yards a gain. that's a couple first downs a week. look at russell wilson. he pulls it down. looks like a running back. he's extremely smart when he runs with the football. he knows how and when to slide and how to protect himself and he always has an idea of where
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those first down markers are. >> kevin: rookie carlos watson is the player down for the houston texans. fourth-round pick. rookie out of clemson. starter or not national championship team a season ago. seattle has three time outs. the texans have two. 3-3 houston. 4-2 seattle. the winner will be tied for first place in their respective divisions. in the afc south a win for the texans ties them with idle jacksonville and tennessee. a win for the seahawks ties them for first in the west with idle los angeles. the rams. >> rich: the pass rushers for beth the texans and the seahawks have to be tired. they have spent a lot of time chasing russell wilson around the field as well as deshaun watson, and that takes a lot out of you. if you do that for four quarters. >> kevin: my goodness. >> rich: not only is it frustrating but it takes a lot
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out of you. it is physically demanding and draining and that's what you worry about late in the game. do you have enough left in the tank to finish off a team like the seahawks? they're so good thea finishing late in games, outscored their opponent 53-9 in the fourth quarter. >> kevin: fullback is in. madden. running back is rawls. it is first and 10. wilson just ran for 21. >> kevin: hand signal by russell wilson. first and 10. intercepted. picked off by marcus williams. big time pick. he's out of bounds at the eight. williams comes up with his first
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interception of the season. claimed off waivers from the jets october 10th. huge, huge defensive play for the texans. >> rich: marcus williams runs the route for russell wilson. he jumps this route the whole way. he knows it's coming, he's in front of the receiver. great anticipation by marcus williams. he knew that route was coming the whole way. >> kevin: for the veteran russell wilson his first interception in his last 103 attempts -- just his fourth pick of the year. >> rich: now if you're the houston texans you've got to be able to finish this game on offense by running the football. that's why they've got the fullback in there. jay prosch. >> kevin: seahawks two time outs. texans, two. first and 10 at the eight. lamar miller. slowed down by clark, and
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finished off in the middle as he leans ahead for four and they'll put him at the 12. wright finishes him off. >> rich: those numbers. first player, with 400-plus passing yards, four-plus passing touchdowns and 50-plus rushing yards in a single game. they'll take one after this play, kevin. >> kevin: second down and six. quarterback watson, and down he goes. he's out to about the 20 and he picks up seven on the play. we've reached the two-minute warning. houston leads by four. on cbs.
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>> sponsored by crest. healthy, beautiful smiles for life. and by hanes. >> kevin: we're back in seattle. battle of young, dynamic quarterbacks going head to head. each with three touchdown passes today. four-point lead for houston. it's first and 10 from the 20. two time outs, houston. three time outs, seattle. the inverted wishbone. miller for a yard. bottom of the pile there with the tackle is michael bennett. >> rich: seattle has to start using those time outs. >> kevin: two left for pete carroll and the seahawks. tonight on cbs begins with "60 minutes" and the threat of north korea's nuclear missile program.
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>> kevin: tonight. only cbs. >> rich: anticipate another run in the situation for seattle. use that second time out. then bill o'brien is going to have a decision on third down whether he decides to run with it. if it were me, i'm going to put the ball in the hands of deshaun watson. i give him a two-way go, run-pass option if they get to third down. >> kevin: ellington, slot receiver is in, nickel secondary for the seahawks. second down and nine. watson, miller, diving ahead to about the 26 yard line with a gain of five. another time out. 1:53 to go. >> rich: this is i decision that you have to make if you're bill o'brien. third and four. the game on the line. you get a first down here, it's
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over. if you run it and you get stopped you get the ball back to russell wilson. in a critical situation think about players not plays. who do you want to have in this situation? number four, deshaun watson. give him the opportunity to get out on the edge of the defense and make a play. >> kevin: head coach calls the plays for the texans. bill o'brien. he just radioed it in to his rookie quarterback, deshaun watson. third and four. >> kevin: watson. miller. and he goes for about two. shy of the first. to the 27. >> rich: the defense did their job. they get the stop.
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they use a time out. they're going to get the ball back. >> kevin: what about the call, rich? >> rich: it was a conservative call, kevin, but keep upon in mind, you're up by four. this is not a three-point game. seattle has to score a touchdown to beat you and your defense is playing well. >> kevin: now you've got the great shane lechler to punt for you. >> rich: he can dramatically change field position. we talked about it. he's got 21 punts of 50 yards or more. >> kevin: his last punt was 60 yards. lockett is back to retrieve it. he stands now at about the 19 of the hawks. a windless day in seattle. >> kevin: back to the nine. hang of 4.7, and nice special teams. todman, the reserve running back makes the stop at the 20. 63-yard punt. 11-yard return. it all sits right in front of
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russell wilson. >> rich: look at that. 22 career-winning drives in the fourth quarter and overtime. he knows what to do. no time outs left, they've got to be able to work the boundary. if you get a completion, there are ways to stop the clock in this situation. >> kevin: when you were a quarterback with no time outs and down obviously needing a touchdown, what's going through your mind as a quarterback? >> rich: there's got to be a sense of urgency. there are ways to stop the clock. you can get out of bounds. you can have an incomplete pass. when you complete the ball in the field of play the offensive line has to hustle to the football. >> kevin: with rawls in the backfield, first and 10 for russell wilson. look at the time. sidestepping and throwing. richardson. what a pitch. beating gilchrist, he's down at the 33. paul richardson does it again. 47-yard completion. >> rich: this is a jump ball.
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we talked about you've got to get up there and quickly get set. >> kevin: no time outs. first and 10. flag. false start, i believe. >> referee: false start. offense. number 70. please set the game clock to 1:09. there will be a 10-second runoff and then set the clock to 59 seconds. >> kevin: odhiambo. >> rich: he outjumps gilchrist. a terrific effort. the leaping ability of paul richardson to high-point it. >> kevin: he's had a couple of circus catches, one against san francisco, one last week against the giants. they run off 10 seconds. first and 15. wilson again.
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this time lockett in front of williams. >> rich: smart play by lockett. he spreads the middle of the field to help the official. >> kevin: down to the 18 yard line. first and 10. rawls in the backfield. wilson. caught. touchdown. >> kevin: graham. the the
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>> kevin: important extra point here. walsh sends it through. three-point lead. 21 seconds to go. houston's got two time outs. >> rich: i'm not sure what's happening here. you've got defenders at the line of scrimmage who are late getting down the field. graham. no one covers him. i have no idea what gilchrist, the safety, is doing. he's running over the top and they turn jimmy graham loose down the middle. as a quarterback, the quickest way to the end zone is down the middle of the field to the tight end. it's also directly in the vision of russell wilson. i have no explanation for what the texans were doing there defensively. >> kevin: wilson has thrown for a career-high 452 yards. this game has had four ties. five lead changes. four of which have come here in the fourth quarter.
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and 21 seconds remain. graham with his second touchdown reception today. >> rich: this place is shaking. the booths are shaking. i can feel it. >> kevin: kickoff. thompson will let it fly over. first and 10. 21 seconds to go. houston with two time outs. >> rich: if you're deshaun watson, kevin, you've got to be aggressive. you've got to push the ball downfield. you've got to give deandre hopkins, will fuller an opportunity to go up and make a play just like we saw with paul richardson a few moments ago. if you're deshaun watson, you've got to throw the ball up and let these guys make a play. maybe get a -- you have to take shots downfield, big pickup, chunks of yardage. >> kevin: three-point game, first and 10, two time outs.
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watson. >> kevin: sheldon richardson. 15 seconds. sixth seattle sack today. houston has one time out remaining. >> rich: bill o'brien doesn't have a lot of plays. second and 20 in this situation. deshaun watson. you've got to take chances. you've got to be aggressive. you've got to throw the ball down the middle of the field. anticipate seattle -- look how deep they're playing in the secondary. wilson can complete underneath -- >> kevin: four-man rush.
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second down and 20. >> rich: there it is. >> kevin: going deep and intercepted by sherman. seattle is going to win it. second interception today. sherman picks off his second and the seahawks will win their fourth consecutive game. >> rich: deshaun watson -- you've got to take chances in that situation. you've got to throw it up and hope that your receiver can go up and make a play. what a difficult day for bill o'brien's team. fought and played so hard. to come up short, it's gut-wrenching. >> kevin: the seahawks are tied for first in the west with the l.a. rams who are idle.
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>> kevin: 41-38 in a classic. >> rich: what a game. that was fun. >> kevin: five lead changes and a 41-38 win for seattle. to 5-2. texans to 3-4. tonight on cbs begins with "60 minutes" followed by a new episode of "wisdom of the
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>> pelley: tonight, david martin is on assignment for "60 minutes." >> martin: after years of threatening to burn the united states in a sea of fire, north korea is on the verge of having an intercontinental ballistic missile-- an i.c.b.m.-- capable of hitting the american homeland with a thermonuclear warhead. the missile is called the hwasong, which translates to mars, the roman god of war. as you will hear tonight, north korea's brash, young dictator kim jong-un is not there yet,
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and will need several more tests before he has a weapon he can count on. still, the chairman of the joint chiefs calls it the greatest threat facing the u.s. today. defense secretary james mattis went to the d.m.z. two days ago and vowed to stand with south korea against the north. tracking that threat, and helping to come up with defenses against it, is the job of the national air and space intelligence center-- nasic for short-- located near dayton, ohio. if you've never heard of nasic, that's because television news cameras have never been inside its operations center. until now. on any given day at nasic, more than 100 photo interpreters, engineers, rocket scientists and intelligence analysts are poring through reams of data collected every time north korea launches a missile. last summer, says nasic commander colonial sean larkin, the north korean threat went to a whole new level. >> sean larkin: they demonstrated the ability that they could reach the continental united states. >> martin: the lower 48?
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>> larkin: yes. >> martin: there were two tests, one on july 4 and again on july 28. both were launched at a very high angle, so they did not go far out to sea. but, once nasic crunched the numbers, there was no doubt: had one of those missiles been fired on a standard trajectory, it could have reached california and beyond. >> larkin: math is our secret weapon. so there's lots of things that go into an i.c.b.m. or other types of weapons systems, that simply-- even if we don't have the pieces of the puzzle, we can do the math and figure out what's missing. >> jeremy suel: well, this is the actual code that we develop. >> martin: this is a computer simulation of north korea's i.c.b.m., produced by jeremy suel and his team of analysts. so, can you take me through what this would look like on a flight? >> suel: yes. >> martin: this is the god of war, north korea's intercontinental ballistic missile. >> suel: the first stage of the system is there to get it off the ground, get initial motion but then it will drop that stage. >> martin: after the hwasong 14's engines have sent it into
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space all that is left is the re-entry vehicle. a warhead would be inside as gravity pulls it back to earth. >> suel: you're at the mercy of the atmosphere at that point. you're slamming into it at many thousands of miles per hour, so that will have tremendous forces imparted on the, the reentry vehicle. >> martin: and what kind of temperatures are we talking about? >> suel: many thousands of degrees. >> martin: north korea cannot attack the u.s. with a nuclear weapon until it develops a reentry vehicle that can stand that kind of heat. >> hugh griffiths: this is the setup before the test. >> martin: hugh griffiths is head of the team which monitors the north korean missile program for the u.n. security council. he says these pictures released by the regime last year were an attempt to prove it had already succeeded. a reentry vehicle was subjected to a rocket engine blast. is that a realistic test? >> griffiths: we assessed that it wasn't sufficiently realistic to be credible. >> martin: because the rocket engine does not create enough
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heat? >> griffiths: correct. the heat produced by the rocket engine is not sufficient to mimic what this would experience re-entering the earth's atmosphere. >> martin: north korea released a picture of the scorched reentry vehicle. and this one, of its 33-year-old leader kim jong-un being shown how little had been burned away. >> griffiths: the idea of this narrative is to prove that yet another requirement of the nuclear ballistic missile program has been achieved. >> martin: kim jong-un seems to be everywhere. does it strike you as unusual that you would have a head of state inspecting a reentry vehicle? >> griffiths: yeah. the whole thing is inconceivable and out of, like, some bad science fiction film. the man is intimately connected with the whole program, and this is very deliberate, and very unusual. >> martin: almost all of north korea's missiles, from long range down to short range, are
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carried on mobile launchers. this is a short range scud, developed by russia in the 1950s and sold to countries all over the world. this one belongs to the missile and space intelligence center in huntsville, alabama. >> steve hancock: this is a russian scud b. >> martin: senior intelligence analyst steve hancock says the scud can be launched straight off the back of this truck. >> hancock: it's mobile and, even to this day, it's a very challenging aspect of the missile force for us to deal with. >> martin: a moving target is harder to hit. >> hancock: yes, sir. >> martin: and-- >> hancock: it's harder to find as well. >> martin: hancock says a well- trained crew can raise, aim and fire a scud in 18 minutes. do they use these exact same procedures if they're launching a longer-range missile? >> hancock: yes. they're going to be very similar. >> martin: and is the-- the launch time still about 18 minutes? >> hancock: so, the bigger the missile gets, it's probably going to get to be a little bit slower. but we don't know the exact launch times for all of the
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systems. >> martin: inside the missile and space intelligence center, there's another scud laid out like a corpse on an autopsy table. >> marie: these are graphite rudders that sit in the exhaust of the missile and are used to steer the missile. >> martin: marie- we agreed not to use her last name-- is a missile engineer whose job is to know as much about the scud as the people who built it. >> marie: this is the instrument section where the guidance equipment sits, so there's a lot of complex equipment in here. >> martin: is that part made of what it looks like it's made of? >> marie: plywood, yes, it is. >> martin: plywood. >> marie: it saves a lot of weight, putting that wood in there instead of metal. >> martin: plywood just doesn't sound like rocket science. >> marie: you know, it doesn't feel that way to us, as westerners. they don't invest resources where it's not necessary. >> martin: it only has a range of 186 miles, but it would reach its target in about five minutes. >> marie: so, then we get up to the real serious part of this missile, which is what we call the payload. the payload is everything, including the warhead, that sits inside this cavity. it can carry about 1,000
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kilograms, or 2,200-pound payload. >> martin: but here's the feature that sets this scud apart. >> marie: this was designed to be a nuclear trainer, and you can tell because the thickness of the aero-shell here is more than what it would be for a standard high explosive warhead. >> martin: a nuclear trainer? this missile is capable of carrying a nuclear warhead? >> marie: this missile, as designed by russia, was intended to carry a nuclear warhead. >> martin: a nuclear-capable weapon with a five-minute flight time. it doesn't give you much time to react. >> marie: it doesn't give you much, does it? >> martin: last march, north korea launched a salvo of four scuds simultaneously, in what it said was a drill to attack u.s. military bases. what's the purpose of firing a salvo of missiles? >> scott macdonald: well, so a salvo is intended to overwhelm your defenses. >> martin: senior weapons analyst scott macdonald took us into the computer simulation center-- so, what goes on in this room? --to show how missiles like those would perform in flight.
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>> macdonald: so, as the videos from north korea end, when they go into the clouds, we're able to represent the entire flight of the missile by putting this into a digital representation. and this looks a lot like a cartoon or a video game, but this is really a lot different. there's a lot of hard science and math that goes behind this. >> martin: at this point, the only defense would be to shoot them down, which is why these computer simulations go into so much detail. so this is reverse engineering. >> macdonald: exactly. >> martin: that's what would happen as it was re-entering. >> macdonald: correct. so it's showing kind of a tumbling motion, and you can see the pressure waves coming off of that missile. that's the aerodynamic forces that are acting on that missile, and that's how we understand how it's going to fly. >> martin: the scud can reach targets in south korea, where 28,500 american troops are based. another north korean missile, called the nodong, has a great enough range to hit japan, where 54,000 american servicemen are stationed. >> mark clark: it's a scaled-up scud missile. >> martin: mark clark is
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director of the military and space intelligence center. japan and south korea and all the americans living there are already in range of nuclear capable missiles? >> clark: they're certainly in range of scud and nodong class missiles, absolutely. >> martin: how many scud and nodong class missiles do the north koreans have? >> clark: hundreds. >> martin: hundreds? >> clark: yes. >> martin: clark would not discuss classified intelligence about north korea, but he did tell us this: >> clark: we have insights today that we didn't have a few years ago. >> martin: such as? >> clark: i'm hesitant to go into sources and methods, except to say there are opportunities we've had to observe and learn about the ballistic missile threats there. >> martin: in february 2016, the u.s. and its allies got their hands on another missile- this time a long range one-- part of a rocket north korea used to launch a satellite into orbit. >> griffiths: the satellite never really functioned. it wasn't a serious satellite,
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but it was a serious rocket. >> martin: the u.n.'s hugh griffiths says that rocket was really a test vehicle for an intercontinental ballistic missile, and a large part of it fell into the sea. >> griffiths: the south korean navy got to this location, and when debris fell from the sky, they were able to recover some of that debris and invited us to inspect it. >> martin: so you physically got your hands on some of the components that had been used. >> griffiths: yes, we were very lucky. we were able to photograph the debris, take it apart and run checks on the serial numbers of quite a variety of components. >> martin: in the past two years, north korea has conducted more than 40 test launches, virtually every one of them personally approved and supervised by kim jong-un. >> tom boyd: what's he's shown is that he has a tolerance for failure. >> martin: tom boyd, senior intelligence analyst for ballistic missiles at the air and space intelligence center,
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means that as a compliment. >> boyd: if you are not willing to fail in the ballistic missile or space launch vehicle missiles business, you're in the wrong business. it's almost inevitable. these are highly complex systems, and failures are pretty much inevitable. >> martin: 2016 saw a lot of failures. >> boyd: i can't recall the exact number, but he did have significant failures. >> martin: and not so many this year. >> boyd: he's having much, much better success this year. >> martin: so, it just looks like they've figured something out. >> boyd: yes, i think they have learned from their failures. >> martin: what north korea figured out is a high thrust engine, seen here in a ground test, and a high performance fuel to power it. would you say that engine and that fuel is responsible for their recent successes? >> boyd: they seem to be getting good performance, yes. >> three, two, one. >> martin: the pentagon says it
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is confident its missile defense system- 42 interceptors based in alaska and california- can shoot down a north korean i.c.b.m., although the test record shows only a 55% success rate. last may, it shot down this mock north korean missile, which was designed from models developed by the air and space intelligence center. despite that most recent success, i.c.b.m.s are what boyd calls "a challenging target." >> boyd: they've been referred to as the ultimate weapon. they get to the target very quickly. an i.c.b.m. has a reentry velocity on the order of four to five miles per second, so there's very little time to react. >> martin: so how long before north korea can really threaten the american homeland with an i.c.b.m.? >> boyd: probably several more flight tests, but ultimately, if they want to have confidence that the system works as intended, they have to flight test it and prove that reentry vehicle can survive realistic reentry conditions.
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>> martin: so that really is then the moment of truth, when they launch, if they launch, a ballistic missile out over the pacific ocean at a range approximating what it would take to reach the united states. >> boyd: that would give them higher confidence that the system really works as they want it to. >> martin: at the rate north korea is testing, u.s. intelligence estimates that could happen as early as next year. >> north korean missiles, with help from components from the west. how they got them, at 60minutesovertime.com. sponsored by eucrisa. ost every. the arm of an arm wrestler? the back of a quarterback? the face of a fairy? prescription eucrisa is a nose to toes eczema ointment.
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>> rose: there is a crisis in the middle east you may not know much about. it's a bitter fight among american allies that has the potential to unravel the u.s.- led coalition that is battling isis and trying to contain iran. at the center of the dispute is the tiny nation of qatar, home to the busiest and most vital american air base in the region. on june 5, saudi arabia, the united arab emirates, egypt and bahrain launched a suffocating economic and political blockade against qatar, accusing the country of funding terrorism and cozying up to iran. qatar has denied and denounced the charges. the target of the nearly five- month-old siege is qatar's 37-year-old emir, sheikh tamim bin hamad al thani, who is now facing the challenge of saving his country. qatar is per capita the richest nation on earth. its wealth, reflected in the gleaming skyline of its capital,
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doha, is derived from the world's largest natural gas field. but the country's very existence was threatened on june 5, when the blockade was imposed by four countries that loom over qatar, a country that is smaller than connecticut and has a population of three million, only 300,000 of whom are native citizens. in an instant, saudi arabia closed qatar's only land crossing. not long ago, hundreds of trucks a day flowed through this border post. now, there is only dust. sheikh tamim, qatar's young emir, had to steady a stunned and skittish nation. >> sheikh tamim: more than 90% of our goods, food, medicine comes from the land. and this was blocked. students were kicked out from those countries. patients were kicked out from hospitals. >> rose: so qataris who were in that country were ordered home? >> tamim: were ordered home, yes. >> rose: in an interview earlier this month in his office in doha, the emir told us he didn't see the blockade coming.
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>> tamim: charlie, it was a shock. it was a shock because a few weeks before that, we were meeting, all of us together, in one room, including president trump. and we were discussing terrorism, financing terrorism. and nobody brought any concern from those countries. nobody told me anything. >> rose: so this is a meeting in riyadh, saudi arabia. the president's there-- >> tamim: exactly. >> rose: and no one suggested they had reason to launch an attack against you? >> tamim: nothing. it was actually the opposite. we were praising each other, laughing with each other. discussing, you know, how to solve this terrorism that is a threat for the rest of the world. >> rose: what do you think this is about? because this is a conflict that has as much power to disrupt the region as anything that's happened politically in a while. so why are they doing it? for what purpose? >> tamim: they don't like our independence, the way how we are
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thinking, our vision for the region. we want freedom of speech for the people of the region. and they're not happy with that. and so they think that this is a threat to them. >> rose: qatar is the non- conformist of the region, an upstart that often refuses to go along with saudi arabia and the united arab emirates. in the mid-'90s, qatar started the satellite news channel al jazeera, which has been a major irritant to autocratic regimes across the arab world. but the list of complaints goes deeper. here's what they are saying: that you're supporting terrorism. that you support the muslim brotherhood, which they believe is against them. you're too friendly with iran. that al jazeera, which you own, stirs up trouble in the region. that you're financing islamist groups in syria. that you allow the taliban and hamas to operate out of doha. and that you are playing too many sides.
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and that the time has come to stop it. that's what they are saying. >> tamim: charlie, iran is our neighbor. and by the way, us as a country, we have lots of differences and foreign policies with iran, more than them. but let me tell you one thing, charlie. when those countries, our brothers, blocked everything. blocked medicine, blocked food, the only way for us to provide food and medicine for our people was through iran. and when they talk about terrorism, absolutely not. we do not support terrorism. >> rose: in july, after a year of talks, qatar finalized an agreement with the u.s. to combat terrorism financing. it didn't sway the blockading countries. they're making demands of you. that you shut down al jazeera, that you give them your word that you're not supporting any islamist groups. are you going to meet these demands? >> tamim: our sovereignty is a red line. we don't accept anybody interfering our sovereignty. when you tell me to close a
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channel like al jazeera, history will write one day, in 50, 60 or 70 years, how it changed the whole idea of free speech in the region. >> rose: so you're not going to shut down al jazeera? >> tamim: no, we're not going to shut down al jazeera. >> rose: like saudi arabia, qatar officially adheres to the ultra-strict form of islam known as wahabbism. unlike saudi arabia, qatar permits christians to practice their faith in churches. saudi women will only gain the right to drive next june; women in qatar have been driving for decades. politically, qatar has also dismayed its neighbors by talking to friend, and foe. this is what is at the core. you're different from them. and they have finally said to you, "you have to stop playing all sides, because it threatens us and it competes with us." >> tamim: actually, what they're saying in a very simple way,
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"give up your independence." >> rose: the emir explained why one foe, the taliban, was invited from afghanistan to open an office in qatar. >> tamim: the reason why they came here, it's not because we asked them to come here, because other people-- >> rose: like the united states? >> tamim: yeah, yeah. america asked-- >> rose: the united states wanted the taliban here? >> tamim: they wanted to have dialogue, so they asked us if we can host them here and have the dialogue. so we hosted them here. this is the reason why they're here. >> rose: when arab streets exploded across the region in 2011, qatar openly backed the uprisings that eventually toppled longstanding dictators. the upheavals unnerved saudi arabia and the united arab emirates. >> tamim: the difference between us and them during the arab spring is that we stood by the people. >> rose: and they stood by the regimes? >> tamim: they stood by the regimes. it showed after that they stood by their regimes. why did we stand by the people? because they were asking for freedom, dignity.
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and i feel that we chose the right side when we stood by the people. >> rose: qatar began punching above its weight under the emir's father, sheikh hamad. he was a visionary who took over the nation in 1995. sheikh hamad pushed to make his country relevant and indispensable. qatar, a soccer lightweight-- >> qatar! >> rose: --won the right to host the world cup in 2022, in a surprising and controversial decision. the most strategic move came soon after 9/11, when the united states military pulled out of saudi arabia. qatar offered the americans a home. >> tamim: we told them, "welcome to doha. welcome to doha. welcome to qatar. we have a strategic partnership with you, and we want this to be very solid. so we're friends. so you're welcome to qatar." >> rose: qatar built al udeid air base to american specifications. 365 days a year, 24/7, u.s. and allied aircraft take off from
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qatar's desert to strike enemy targets in afghanistan, iraq and syria. 10,000 americans and coalition forces operate out of the sprawling air base. it may be why president trump, after initially tweeting support of the blockade, now seems eager to end it. you have heard that the president said, "this cannot happen?" >> tamim: i've heard that. i've heard that, "this cannot continue. it should end." >> rose: and "we cannot tolerate an invasion from outside by our friends against another friend?" >> tamim: he told me very clearly, "i will not accept my friends fighting amongst themselves." >> rose: so you were actually fearful of that? >> tamim: i'm fearful that if anything happens, if any military act happens, this region will be in chaos. >> rose: it is said that the president has asked you to come to camp david. have you accepted that invitation? >> tamim: yes. i had, i met with, with the president when i was in new york a few weeks ago. >> rose: for the united nations.
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>> tamim: for the united nations. and the president showed that he is committed to find an end to this crisis. and yes, it is true, he, he suggested that we come. and i told him straightaway, "mr. president, we are very ready. i've been asking for dialogue from day one." >> rose: and what did the other countries say? >> tamim: it was supposed to be very soon, this meeting. but i don't have any response. >> charlie dess: do you know who this is? >> the king? >> dess: the emir. >> rose: on a visit to his former english-speaking school, sheikh tamim told us he never expected to be emir. he wasn't in the line of succession. as a teenager, his ambition was to become the arabic boris becker. once his tennis dreams were dashed, he was another wealthy member of the royal family. then, he says, one night, his older brother jassim, the heir apparent to their father, asked to see him. >> tamim: and he said, "you, you are the best choice. and you are much better than me." he said that. i remember. i was shocked. i said, "jassim, what are you talking about?" >> rose: that's the first time

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